The Hidden Structures of Consciousness: Sacred Geometry & DMT

Today, we are joined by two fantastic speakers Dr. Robert J. Gilbert from the Vesica Institute and Andres Gomez from the Qualia Research Institute.
This one-of-a-kind conversation brings together the ancient and almost forgotten science of Sacred Geometry with the recent discoveries made in psychedelic research about the geometry of DMT experiences.
Our purpose for this conversation is to explore cutting-edge research in the Science of Consciousness by synthesizing knowledge and wisdom from exoteric and esoteric sciences, merging science and spirituality in a rigorous and unified way.
Dr. Gilbert also conducted a short sacred geometry energy meditation called the zero-point centering where one brings one's attention and awareness to the centre of the centre of the centre of each chakra in a vortex like manner.
This event was jointly organised by the Oxford Psychedelic Society, a student-run organisation, and On The Verge, a consciousness-expanding podcast and event organisation
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Link to Dr. Gilbert's website:
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Link to Dr. Gilbert's series on Gaia titled as: Sacred Geometry: Spiritual Science:
www.gaia.com/series/sacred-ge...
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[@DragonRyderNyx]

Fantastic - loved it. I've been binge-watching everything I can find on Dr. Gilbert and practice his meditations daily. His heavenly/earth toroidal flow meditation has been absolutely life-changing. Thank you so much!!

[@ancienttempleofma]

Me too

[@joecrowe7062]

Where to find the 🧘‍♀️

[@DragonRyderNyx]

@@joecrowe7062 It's in his series on Gaia 🙂

[@joecrowe7062]

@@DragonRyderNyx dragon,was found in Arizona it was a 100 feet long,archivist channel finds newspaper clips on this stuff from the 1800s,time lines are all over the place back then not so much brainwashing back then, question i remembered last year on the day out of time july 25th to set 🧘‍♂️ and pit chin down like you are 🙏 praying and aum or 🕉 or toning and make long even tones do it for 10 minutes around 6 minutes your body resonates with any tone you make you state to vibrate like a tuning fork.does dr. GILBERT talk about this?

[@finnnedergaardnissen2692]

Heya, have you done or considered his courses on his page? I'm really drawn to them :-)

[@OfficialGOD]

Speakers' Backgrounds @ 2:12 Andreas Gomez Emilsson @ 4:47 Dr. Robert J. Gilbert @ 7:15 Setting the Theme @ 8:35 Andreas' Presentation on DMT and Geometry @ 12:40 DMT Experiences Are Not Explained by Current Science @ 14:55 Anecdotal Data Is Foundational for New Discoveries @ 17:05 Mapping the State Space of Consciousness @ 21:40 Levels of DMT Experiences @ 24:55 Threshold Symmetry Hotel Chrysanthemum Magic Eye Crystal Worlds Waiting Room Breakthrough Amnesia Higher Dimensional Geometry @ 39:15 Dr. Gilbert's Presentation on Sacred Geometry @ 44:15 Wave-Particle Duality in Modern Physics @ 44:50 Information Carrying Waves Create Structure @ 48:15 Psychotropics Open Perception to the Wave Universe @ 51:25 Sacred Geometry as Ancient Knowledge Rediscovered @ 54:40 Importance of Hyperbolic Geometry @ 59:10 Torus Shape Links Modern Science and Ancient Traditions @ 1:02:00 Wormholes in Our Energy Field @ 1:05:40 Discussion Between Speakers @ 1:11:25 Information and Geometry @ 1:11:30 Developing Discernment @ 1:19:10 Healing With Frequencies @ 1:22:10 Guided Meditation @ 1:27:10 Concluding Statements @ 1:32:20 Audience Q&A @ 1:35:00 Undoing the Separation from Oneness @ 1:35:35 Developing Discernment @ 1:37:25 Healing With Frequencies @ 1:39:50 ET Contact and Higher Consciousness @ 1:41:45 Closing @ 1:46:10

[@ShirleyMcalpine]

Absolutely yes🎉❤😮 I am so glad to find you guys I'm a very long time meditator and have taken prolific amounts. 73 years old tomorrow, I no longer take psychedelics but would love to microdose. Thank you for all that you guys are doing, you're really going to make a a real difference in line for the next coming generations😊

[@tennesseejed884]

My first thought after experiencing this stuff was "I have to figure this out". Apparently I'm not alone and someone has come a long way at doing so!

[@randysin8552]

Incredible! Thank You Andre and Robert ~~~ Infinite Field of Love 💗♾️☺️

[@haleywilson1063]

So much to absorb, appreciate the analogies, thanks for making really complex mathamatics and geometric information easier to comprehend. Exciting times ahead.

[@jodithomas4588]

Fascinating subject, presented by incredible people. Thank you for your time and energy in researching and sharing this information.

[@aye-1dv]

If Robert Gilbert ran for President, I'd probly vote for him!

[@devvildogg1775]

This was incredible, thank you for put this out!

[@ColetteMCarr]

This was amazing! Thank you. Loved the two very different energies of these two gents. It worked so well together. Much learned. Thank you 🙏🙏💫

[@BackassWordsWeirdworld]

This was so excellent. The guests were so good. The doctor is just damn brilliant. I have heard his voice before, but now I know his face too. Thanks for sharing all of this, all of you. God bless.

[@BackassWordsWeirdworld]

I really feel like one of us stoners may be the ones to figure out where we go from here. At least those first steps in the right “direction.”

[@Hopeful_One]

@@BackassWordsWeirdworld *Word.* ✌🏼🤍💫 from 🍑, 🇺🇸, 🌎

[@veronicasart]

This is such an informative presentation! Thank you 👍🌸✨

[@paznilo]

Amazing presentation Andres and Dr Robert! Fascinating.

[@BackassWordsWeirdworld]

The one electron idea. Fascinating.

[@Hopeful_One]

Ikr?! That shit makes *EVERYTHING* make sense, now!! Mind ... *_blown_* ... 💣 When folks l👀k at me with that ... _look_ (pfft) ... for saying, _We Are One,_ I have something to back it up with, now ("theory", notwithstanding). How freakin exciting is THIS?!! _Wow._ Thanks for allowing me to express my exuberance, friend! 🤍✌🏼💫 from 🍑, 🇺🇸, 🌎

[@Sundance304]

Yes, mind blowing. My Kriya Yoga teacher talks about,'....centre everywhere, but circumference nowhere......ring passnot....dont get attached to anything when you are there....'. Listening to Robert makes some so much sense. I am a long time meditatotor. kept away from drugs, but I am enticed to try DMT. where can I get the stuff. I live in South London. And I lucid dream a bit. @@Hopeful_One

[@Trainwhrek]

Thanks guys! Love you all.

[@user-sf8xu4vh9w]

Great conversation, thought & feelings provoking

[@visioncreadora3633]

You guys are extraordinarily genius

[@miketom30]

Thank you!!! 🥰

[@AwesTube]

it's kinda impressive how infrequently Andres Gomez blinks his eyes

[@timothyacker8686]

I'm ready again.🎉

[@cynthiabreatheseasy]

That was amazing!!! A convergence of spiritual, intellectual humans sharing all those things we can do to enjoy and grow and evolve with everything else. Loved the sharing between these science bros! Thank you so much!!! Great to see Dr Gilbert here and at the WAPF conference too. Yippee

[@blissfullyliving1]

This is the future of the science of Consciousness research.

[@HanlieSteyn-gh9ji]

Thank you guys Most interesting.

[@BackassWordsWeirdworld]

Spark gap. Love the analogy.

[@AetherForce]

Great talk. What was the book mentioned by Robert about the field of the heart ... something like Time Stand Still by Arthur RIndfree?

[@ancienttempleofma]

My dream is to work with Dr Gilbert One day I will

[@rmschindler144]

just a suggestion: it would be great if the description listed the books mentioned.

[@gizelleortega4944]

Amazing talk and team, great job Congratulations ☮

[@derekjones3596]

Kashmir Shaivism describes the pinch point that Andres demonstrates with the balloon very similarly. They describe what separates the individual from perception of the One as “malas” or constrictions. There are three of them which also correspond to the 3 curls of the kundalini serpent which must uncurl for the kundalini to rise fully. The deep purple light is also very well known and worked with in that tradition.

[@oo-hk6zd]

I always wondered what the Egyptian hieroglyphs looked like when on DMT etc. Also the Organ the instrument. They were doing something with frequency and vibration in those buildings in ancient times cymatics under DMT. After all it is like vibrating consciousness.

[@timestampingarmy]

1:06:00 the heart being the physical matter of the impulses of electromagnetic innergy

[@philosophicalmixedmedia]

In-group dynamics valance seems to hinge on forms of self evaluative maintenance based on peer meritocracy that are mostly conservative. Theories that confront the mechanism of downwards evaluation for upward contacts could lower group valance as in-group phenomenology which fragments selves valance self evaluation. So a science of consciousness that omits to map complex comparative modes of self evaluation will tend to hyper individuate consciousness as brain centric events occurring within a spacial locale which tends to solutions for individuated conscious states but misses on the complex interdependent nature of qualitative conscious states.

[@sylvier333]

Gratitude 🩵🌻

[@keyqc1288]

He's talking about an external sound. I've done a lot of research. And there are people out there who can heal other people. So we can create this healing frequency that he's talking about. You yourself

[@EduNauta95]

1:44:00 I call this the purple matrix, it's like a 3D spiderweb of purple billiard balls that are geometrically arranged, i sometimes travel there like if i was zooming into it, google maps style, into the horizon

[@yusufdogan2330]

It is Bashar, a multidimensional entity channeled by Darryl anka, as he claims himself to be, who called it "the prime radiant", as far as my knowledge goes regarding that idea, in that context of meaning.

[@julian9898]

What’s the explanation for standing wave patterns?

[@jcinaz]

I did not see a lobster in the Magic Eye image at 32:49. What I saw appeared to be looking at a section of a 2 x 4 tilted up slightly so that one edge is close and the two flat surfaces (top and bottom) are tilted back. There is a cavernous area or cut-out in the object with an unfamiliar shape, but nothing like a lobster, in 3-D. The color patterns never changed. Moving my head around gave me a holographic sense of the hollowness and depth of the cutout in the object.

[@paznilo]

I had a very similar experience John. Definitely no lobster.

There are "near misses" of stereoscopic alignment where your eyes cross but not enough (or too much) that generate the kind of effect you describe. But if you cross them a bit more, you'll finally see the lobster.

[@wesnewman]

The cavernous area is the lobster inverted, lobster was being pushed in, instead of out, if that makes sense.

[@bronsondeliac2625]

I didn't see anything resembling a lobster either 🤷

[@jcinaz]

@ I did manage to get the 3D effect of the image, but it in no way resembles a lobster to me from any perspective that I can manage, inverted or not.

[@reginaerekson9139]

18:49 pain is from ego, feeling stupid doesn’t mean you are, and you shouldn’t ever be humiliated for a wrong good idea and I strongly believe there are many new beautiful strange things to discover - love yourself more! -Regina ( 18:49 ) 😂

[@timestampingarmy]

TY Timestamp Warrior!

[@trevcorbett6161]

Barbara Brennan's work " Hands of Light" describe the chakras as double vortices. From what I understand, these oppose each other, as depicted as the inner curvatures of the toroidal energy fields surrounding the body ( ie the multi-layered auric field with 1 pole revolving in the opposite direction as its opposing vortex), and are depicted as the flower petals on the traditional chakra symbols as painted in eastern traditions. These petals increasing in number as they move from the lowest basal chakra upwards to the most complex petalled of the crown chakra. I believe they also each resonate to the musical octave scale. The opposing vortices access the zero point quantum field at their central meeting points. This is also occurring with our DNA, which create quantum vacuum domains - mini toroidal wormholes that also access the zero point quantum field, thus accessing information throughout all space/time. The DNA and chakras ( and I believe also the acupuncture energy points around the body being smaller versions of the chakras along the body meridian systems ), act as relievers and transmitters of information, which is exchanged between us and the rest of reality this way.

[@trevcorbett6161]

We are effectively connected to everything throughout all time & space.

[@trevcorbett6161]

It is possible that neurological nerve firings in the brain cause the brain to ocillate in cymatic patterns throughout the skull cavity. The brain is mainly water and a collective of soft cholesterol fat type substrate housing a nerve fibre network, with the consistency of a soggy pudding, so cymatic pattern information functioning is indeed very plausible. Being mainly fluid, it would not need huge motions to work. ( ... much like the fine hairs in the inner ear.)

[@justinfinch2458]

I am curious how this field exploring dmt co inhabits NDE research, the 2 have several similarities but also many incongruencies, one commonality is the experience of entities, but people report much less bizarre geometric shape forming entities, my dmt experiences have been quite bizarre and disorienting because of how wildly different they are to physical existence, but you rarely hear this presented in NDE experiences, they seem very comfortable and natural, but they similary claim the color spectrum and nature of light changes, and the beings seem all knowing and can read thoughts. idk i think these 2 fields would learn much from each other

[@tamrakat]

At 153:13 Dr. Gilbert mentions something that sounds like “Sima Therapy.” Can someone please help me with the correct spelling of that word so I can find out about it?

[@trevcorbett6161]

Toriodal fields are the fundamental key to atomic "matter". Just read several quantum dissertations on the structures of atoms - protons neutrons & electrons all being toroidal energy fields. The more complex the element, the more if these atomic "particle" fields they have. The 1st, most central, elecron level fields are oriented in particular 90 x 90 degree alignments (which correspond to their "proton" field conterparts, the next electron shell, like the 1st, has each "electron" * "proton" toriodal energy field orientated at 45 degrees from each other and those of the 1st electron shell. The more electron shells, the more the angular orientation to the others. This type of structure would resonate uniquely for each element, thus forming various cymatic type vibrational patterns in sub-space (or the foundational quantum zero point energy field). This actually illustrates that all of creation is a "harmony of music".

[@trevcorbett6161]

yes, it's all about the fields which are toriodal based. The funnel/vortex mathematics uses the plank scale and the Fibonacci sequence for spherical toriodal masses and the plank scale and golden mean ratio for oblique spheroid toriodal masses to calculate the internal vortices pathways of spinning energetic movements.

[@TheBold1994]

He mentions a book or publication by who? Arthur Rindfree? Time stands still?

[@joecrowe7062]

At 59:00 i think his emf switched the pc to echo

[@timestampingarmy]

1:05:00 Dr. Gilbert references to innergy machines through devine geometry

[@C-o-r-y]

It’s not because of materialistic view when you have 3 scientists who got erased, they knew to much. * Alexander Gurwitsch - mitogenetic radiation-Morphogenetic field theory (1923) * Harold Saxton Burr - (life fields or L-fields)-book: The Nature of Man and the Meaning of Existence (1962) * Rupert Sheldrake -Morphic resonance (1981)

[@reginaerekson9139]

6:40 we need a spiritual consciousness envoy to Africa. No nation, no religion- just uplifting.

[@josephrubin9737]

its about the Heart foooools

[@deanmckenna6094]

I must say I'm very disappointed... Not one mention of Dr. Gilbert's most awesome outfit ?!?! The dude brought style to match his intellect! But great stuff lol.

[@i.m.gurney]

A Hamiltonian for consciousness would be variable, when you consider consciousness is in part including experience, memory, on top of sensory input.

[@i.m.gurney]

When you discuss consciousness, you are referring to the whole, would you agree that this can be subdivided down to the single neuron. Would you agree that an individual neuron has conscience? Or would you suggest a minimum number of neurons are required?

[@i.m.gurney]

When you offer the sphere as the only stable shape, (can I suggest, the lowest energy state), is this because it is a sphere, or is it due to its single side? Is a torus as stable?

[@i.m.gurney]

The mobius, that is....

[@i.m.gurney]

Speaking personally from my 100's of experiences with LSD, my level descriptors would be very different. For example, your symmetry hotel, I would describe as an overhead projector acetate, an overlay to the real world. Leading up to your top amnesia level, being a complete replacement of my eyes with led monitors displaying animations, animations not of geometric shapes, but rather cartoons. This level I drifted in & out off over a 16 hour period, briefly coming back to a near normal sensual plain. I should point out that the cartoons were only an entry, beginning to a lengthy period of nothing, no memory. After my above experience, my first experience, I for the other experiences, only achieved the acetate experience.

[@i.m.gurney]

Not wanting to detract from the wave, I would suggest a field based universe is a better term, no field, no wave. I Would though agree, no waves, no universe, only pure Higgs.

[@williamlovett619]

What is giving you the opportunity to question anything? Consciousness.

[@OfficialGOD]

1:50:25 thats actually true, i can vouch for that

[@pakistaniraveasylum1396]

24:30 different colours have different gravitational effects (not officially)

[@dolinofolde]

When will they stop treating schizophrenics like criminals? I found I can transform my mind with energy years ago and experuenced what could only be considered as hyperdimensional travel. The beginning stages are ambiguous but the structure finds itself with repition and any dedication. The problem is you become someone different than who you thought you were based on your internal monologue and life/job/religion. Patterns. We choose to see them or not. Some are there regardless.

[@dolinofolde]

Colors on the wall auditory hallucinations completely lucid state of mind. Neon in nature. Some were shapes of objects. Some purple was somewhat crystaline.

[@marcelkuiper5474]

Wow, mind blown again, im going to make or buy one of those chadni plates, where little particles get ordered into these intricate pattarns only by a sinoid frequenty wave. Its awe inspiring, where does this instructing information come from, one sentence of the bible came to mind ( I am not dogma bound) "In then beginning their was the word" Thing is we are moving back to the singularity, after that it probably expancess again, and other creatures get the chance to not fuck up.

[@timestampingarmy]

1:00:00 experience oneness life force

[@matt12.8]

1:55:22

[@ernestoduenas2466]

Have anyone experience origami movement and futuristic machines ?

[@TruthSeeker42069]

What if black holes go from one galaxy to another galaxy on another dimensional plane just the reverse opposite of what we have here. What if it's like The duality of us just The duality of the galaxies 🤷😁

[@PuppetMasterdaath144]

#iamspecial =>Ego support system

[@BackassWordsWeirdworld]

It can be a cheat for the cheat codes. Use wisely.

[@adolforosado]

Consciousness has no form!

[@alloloiseau5259]

Nice conversations! Dr speaks of big bangs and black holes. These are theories based on mathematic and like "dark matter" the aim has been to try to keep proving the standard gravity model as supreme in the face of all the noises and observational contradictions. Plasma Cosmology and Electric Universe Theory do a much better job at explaining what is observable without making some lalaland purely theoretical math to explain things never obseved such as black holes or dark matter. Electricity is everywhere

[@trevcorbett6161]

a black hole was discovered and photographed ...

[@tennesseejed884]

Inner space is as big as outer space.

[@davidsiriani9586]

lobster at 32 minute mark, I like lobsters.

[@douglaskoleen5586]

Who was the blonde lady?

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

Apologies Dr. Robert Gilbert. Most Brits can read! And we can even pre-prepare!

[@1invag]

Funny, all he one of the guys said he wanted for his birthday as a kid was a clown that could make balloon animals then 20 minutes later matey boy breaks out the balloons illustrate his idea he was expressing bahaha

[@josephrubin9737]

Really?!!! Transhuman... U all are FOOOLS....

[@josephrubin9737]

Andreas... WTF....Youre a Transhumanist ehhhh>>>>??? good luck with that

[@justinclifton55]

I'm sorry but this really is misleading, too many false claims. More defense on perspectives than information on perspectives.

[@jhanalexander5377]

Just think of the matrix, that is what he's basically explaining. The idea is you can construct the world using binary code 0 and 1 and from that everything else proceeds. All the mathematical patterns are derived from this concept. It's a lot of nonsense but the interesting part is we have found error correction code in the math that holds our universe, and it's also found in life

[@IcarusFlyby]

Quit talking and practice the drawings - the tetrahedron is the plank object. work your way up to Metatrons Cube and the icosahedron. we are all conected. consider the torus, the sprial , the great attractor and frequency - Rosicrucian practice is 4U to conect to spirit

[@VOCALCHEMY]

🎉 0:26 🎉liberty honor exciting

[@HomeAtLast501]

Be a good host and introduce your guests --- don't ask them to introduce themselves and provide their backgrounds.

[@reginaerekson9139]

20:05 go to Africa, it’s good protection for the people from Vladimir “Iron Fister” Putin

[@asadchoudhrya]

Lol amateurs

[@josephrubin9737]

More Deceptive Male Voices....sad

[@josephrubin9737]

these are sooooo not the picture to focus on.... more Male voiced deceptions... Yawnnnnnn

[@denzali]

Why? Yawwwn

[@ammaraj007]

Can someone list the book recommendations here, please🥹

[@blissfullyliving1]

Back to a future for mankind, br dr. Ibrahim Karim

[@mkleber]

The book Gilbert refers to by the late theoretical biologist Arthur Winfree is When Time Breaks Down (1987). An earlier worthwhile book by Winfree is The Geometry of Biological Time (1980).

[@Luka-rl7ek]

1:55:23