The Hills Have Eyes | Anatomy of a Franchise

In today's video we are looking at the history of Wes Craven's work. How he started with The Last House on the Left, and how The Hills Have Eyes informed decisions that he would make on A Nightmare on Elm Street and Scream. Thanks for Watching!
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[@InPraiseofShadows]

Hey everybody! Hope you're doing great and that your year has started off well so far. I've been working on a few projects that I'm really excited about, one of them is pretty far along so I think I'm going to be able to get two videos out in February (hopefully). Also as I said in the video, I would love it if you went and gave Pim's Crypt a watch. The link to their video is in the description and I think they make great stuff. Stay safe until I see you again, and thanks for everything.

[@smurphy8881]

Great video. Will give Pims a watch. Curious what sort of horror film you would want to make?

[@abegarfield7638]

This was very interesting and informative. I really enjoyed it. I've also thrown a bone to Pym's crypt, I subscribed so I don't forget to check 'em out. I look forward to watching their stuff.

[@JasonBeam7]

Thank you for your hard work. You're one of my very favorite channels. If I had the money, I'd support your Patreon!

[@angusmcnay5449]

*neurofibromatosis

[@QueerComics1994]

Ahh, I was wondering where history of witches 3 went. That's were my VVitch rant was XD

[@cartier.frames]

"the hill people can be represented as anything you want them to be really" immediately thinks of minorities

[@princeCustos324]

O M G P.O.C. represantation UWU. I'm going to tell all my unemployed communist friends about this video. 🗣🗣🗣🗣😂😂🔥🔥

[@Seyanoo]

What’s with leftoids unironically saying racist shit lmfao

[@PK_Miracle]

As a minority myself, I LOVE being compared to savage cannibals who will do anything to protect their land.

[@stationaryninja2753]

@@PK_Miracle im sure its the sexual violence that seals the deal for you and makes you "LOVE" that it. i guess there are some out there that think r*pe is form of defense, thats says a lot about someone.

[@stationaryninja2753]

@@PK_Miracle it must be the sexual violence that seals it for you huh?

[@davidstephens3235]

Could someone direct me to the hateful abusive far-right comments please? All i can find is people pointing how objectively bad this video is.

[@isitoveryet9525]

He thinks everything he dislikes is far right lol Pro 1A & 2A? Happy when preds are vanquished? Against cannibalism? YOU’RE FAR RIGHT DAMMIT 🤪

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@isitoveryet9525far right is when critiscm

[@RAC00NFANGIRL]

@@leviticusprime4904 T_T Don’t ever call me that..

[@jesseburgener442]

"Are the hateful abusive far-right comments in the room with us now?"

[@ImBigmace]

16:14 "The hill people can be represented as anything you want them to be really." Immediately compares mutant incest people to native Americans and blacks. Are you supposed to be anti racist because this does seem pretty racist to me.

[@simoneidson21]

Dude, you do know that poor white people exist right? There’s far more of that comparison than the Native American and black comparison . Also, “blacks” just say the n word and move on

[@megaultradamn]

​@@simoneidson21"blacks" is not a dog whistle. Stop the cap

[@ragnarokthewarchild5059]

Normal people watchs hills have eyes well we should stop nuclear weapons testing where people live regardless if race because we dont want them to mutate become incestous and eat people. Left wing people who never touch grass actualllly its about native Americans and black people and how they were treated because racism and rich white people are oppressive. Everybody whos normal wtf is wrong with you because what you said is racist because the movie that came out in 77 and being in the cold war era its just about nukes and scifi spooky stuff nothing and race the leftest no you are racist im anti racist yeah this guy is racist

[@courtland4494]

@@simoneidson21 If you hear blacks and IMMEDIATELY think of replacing that with racial slurs, you're telling on yourself. Your social credit score is plummeting, leftie.

[@Faminetheblack]

As a native american, yea it's racist.

[@fuwayuu]

i hate how hard you try to make us consider sympathising with the murderous cannibals but never once mention that they raped the women of the film. they didn't just murder and eat invaders. rape isn't defending your land and your home??????

[@goukeban6197]

Well, the Comanches did a lot of raping in their conflicts with the settlers, so this guy would probably say that because brown people did it, it's a valid form of self-defence.

[@henrydikes6704]

wouldn't be surprised if he believes sexual assault us good if it happens to "le conservative badmen"

[@wrenpeach6707]

Right! If the colonizers metaphor was intended, wouldn't the "invading" family be the ones raping the cannibals? Lol

[@f1shze4lot]

If the family was of different race this guy would be saying that cannibals are representing middle class white people lol

[@chefref5027]

I have never heard a shallow thinker try to go so deep as this guy does in this video.

[@krueger92]

The hill people really aren’t so bad. They’re only eating people bfd. It’s not like they’re following those people on Twitter. Now that would be a premise even too grotesque for horror.

[@ASlickNamedPimpback]

as we all know horror is about kindness and what better kindness is there than sharing your body? its precisely what jesus does, of course

[@darrylatkins5049]

This guy is a loser and I hope he never comes back on the internet again

[@kadalsaurus6232]

you know zane could write a good creepypasta about conspiracy of certain spookytuber and guntuber stalking him and live in his walls, intimidate hime and drive him mad

[@afrayedrope1939]

Could you imagine if they were…conservative? That has no place in horror or anywhere!

[@RAC00NFANGIRL]

Thinks of the children!!

[@Zothiqueness]

It's known for decades that this movie was based on the story of Sawney Bean, a very white Scottish man and his clan of cannibals. Everything you said in this video is an absolute lie.

[@josesosa3337]

I didn't know this was inspired by sawney bean. Very interesting.

[@Yamatonix11]

I mean, a lot of what he said in the (now deleted because waaah people pushed back at being called all sorts of heinous things) video was also a lot of lies, so this is pretty par for the course with this guy it seems.

[@srinivarma1320]

How else is he supposed to stretch this into an America Bad?

[@thomasmcfiddles5133]

No way the guy who played Boromir was a cannibal!

[@DaytonaRoadster]

@@srinivarma1320 no no, YT bad

[@TheEggeater1111]

The Cannibals are definitely the bad guys

[@notagoodname602]

As a cannibal, I approve this

[@edwardsallow6518]

@@notagoodname602Lel

[@RAC00NFANGIRL]

Wait we sure about this? Are we sure they’re not native Americans trying stop Americans?

[@danle7022]

They were made to eat people by other non mutated people, it's not their fault. The non cannibals are the real cannibals, and they taste too good to not eat, yum!

[@themadmattster9647]

I mean, there ARE films that make the points this Soystache thinks this one makes, but this film is not it. Wes Craven did essentially War On Terror propaganda with Red Eye, though he's still ostensibly left but that I don't think what he's reading in this is what the creator intended him to lol. Btw, I should note I do like Wes Craven and even Red Eye, but being super hyperpolitical all the time seems like a very miserable life. And I would think in a way, the "final girl" trope makes 80's horror RIGHT WING since it's always the "pure virgin" who survives at the end. All in all, Horror can be political, or apolitical, or partly political, it's not inherently ANYTHING. The guy is seeing shit that's not there, though I wouldn't want the drugs he's on.

[@richardgadberry8398]

16:24 "You saw a bunch of cannibal mutants and thought of Native Americans?"--Shoe0nHead.

[@JorgeTorres-tl7vo]

After watching your recent video, you made it seem like only death threats were made to you in the comments. It’s mostly people mildy disagreeing.

[@megaultradamn]

What low viewer retention does to a MFer

[@aliway4136]

Well to his ilk that's actual violence 🤣🤣

[@BlackJacked]

Most people who said that they received death threats probably did not receive death threats

[@Yamatonix11]

I would risk saying that a lot of the disagreements aren't mild, but rather quite staunch. Comments going 2 years back seem to be pretty consistent with how bad of a take people thought this was.

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@Yamatonix11 Yes, but they are mild in tone. So, firm but fair, cuz dear lord are the takes bad here. My eyes nearly rolled out of my skull in the first twenty minutes.

[@bigbosssmiling7135]

this is more racist than anything wendigoon has ever said

[@pegacorn13]

Please elaborate and tell me what he said that was racist because I heard nothing of the sort.

[@leogazebo5290]

@@pegacorn13 Your either deaf or ignore him comparing The Cannibals to Native Americans... can't get more racist than that.

[@animatedmonkey5882]

@@pegacorn13 i mean i think making a strong connection between native americans and sadistic cannibals seems kinda racist. there is a surface-level similarity of a group of native people being intruded on by a group of outsiders. but thats where it really ends.

[@stationaryninja2753]

@@pegacorn13 Zane makes up lies about people with Native American heritage. he seems to take particular issue with the Cherokee. i think this is the main reason why he single out wendigoon. anyone that does research at the level zane does simply cant be trusted. the pic he used of brandon b, shows the caliber of person he is, and makes it clear the bad conservative video was purely intended to be hurtful and hateful. hes spoiled, privileged, entitled and has possibly the WORST work ethic on YT.

[@pegacorn13]

@@leogazebo5290 You didn't elaborate and you're simplifying what he said and taking it out of context. First of all, this is a movie analysis and not a personal narrative about the creator's personal views on race or the real act of cannibalism. I'm not ignoring what he said, I'm actually listening to it rather than being triggered by someone who is commenting on the deeper message of a film about wealth inequality and generational trauma in America. This is what he says about how the "Hill People" look and behave in the context of the film that is a metaphor for wealth inequality and disparity in America: "The hill people in reflection of that are dressed in an almost stereotypical parody of how Native Americans are often presented in older westerns mixed with with a caricature of the classic idea of the inbred redneck hillbilly. On the most basic surface superficial level this is a film about cannibals eating and killing a family who get lost on their summer vacation. Cannibalism as a theme in both "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and "The Hills have Eyes" is a subversion and commentary on how historically rural country Americans are constantly crushed under the turning wheels of industry and drained of everything that they have so that the goods that they produce can be purchased at a fraction of their value and shipped off to larger wealthier areas leaving those rural stretches of lands as husks that never grow or prosper under these conditions. In these films those seen as rural hicks are rising up and eating the flesh of their symbolic masters. Consuming them as they themselves have been consumed. And in a way the film asks if these people are wrong for killing their invaders: is it wrong to eat the people who have been who have been eating you and your ancestors for decades or even centuries? Consuming everything that you and your people have ever made without creating anything of substantial value themselves? The phrase isn't kill the rich, it isn't hang the rich its eat the rich and was done that way with intention. In a way are they not justified for their actions? The hill people can be representative of anything that you want them to be really. They can be Native Americans and the hills themselves could be allegorical of them forced onto reservations. They could be black Americans that have for hundreds of years been forced to live within a dehumanizing system that has balances in place that ensure they never get ahead. They could be anyone who has been a victim of hundreds of years of horrifically violent white wealthy educated progress." Words and phrases of note here: "stereotypical", "parody", "theme", "symbolic", "consuming", "allegorical", "EAT THE RICH". I honestly don't understand how you are insinuating that he is actively comparing Native Americans to literal cannibals when he is merely discussing his interpretation of a revenge themed movie about wealth inequality and disenfranchised people who have been forced into a bleak, ruined, desolate environment after centuries of oppression. He literally says that they are "victims of hundreds of years of horrifically violent, white, wealthy, educated progress". He's saying It's a horror movie based on the concept of "eat the rich" and that it's an allegory. He is no way says that Native Americans or any other minority are actually sadistic cannibals but rather comments that this movie is a metaphor for groups of people who have been so abused by systemic, white capitalism that they are now coming back to essentially kill and eat the masters who have not only invaded their home but who have killed and eaten them and their ancestors for decades. I swear it's like 3/4 of the people in this comment thread have no idea what he's even talking about. It's like the second anyone flips the surface level interpretation of the film and sees the Carters as anything more than helpless victims of literal cannibalism, they lose their collective minds. The interpretation here suggests that the family may actually be symbols of the evil of American society who have driven any and all "others" into a barren wasteland and then simply expect to walk into their home and expect to have their privilege extended. It's akin to a white, wealthy family led by an ex-cop driving their half a million dollar Winnebago onto a reservation or into a ghetto and being expected to not be fu*ked with and welcomed with open arms by the people in those communities. The only difference is that this is a horror exploitation film from the 1970's. Get it?

[@williambutcher7429]

The hill people aren’t even that evil, they just eat people. I mean it’s not like they do anything truly evil like, say, following people I disagree with on twitter.

[@coltonwilkie241]

The hill people might be rapists but at least they're not conservatives!

[@railrost7428]

This is maybe the top 5 worst media analysis i have seen in a while holy shit.

[@julioaurelio]

What entries on your list could be worse than this? Genuinely curious.

[@angel_of_rust]

almost as bad as that pedo that liked Cuties

[@universeoftoast-bh3ik]

@@julioaurelio beats me

[@nqk_0662]

@@universeoftoast-bh3ikthat one girl calling migul from spider man racist ( yes she was serious)

[@universeoftoast-bh3ik]

@@nqk_0662 oh and that girl that called matpat transphobic now that I think about it

[@libRteedude]

Equating the cannibals to lower-class individuals or minorities gives off the same energy as Extra Credits claiming orcs represent black people: It feels more indicative of your perception of these groups than the film's, and not in a good way.

[@colwellalec]

What happens when you give a terminally online redditor a youtube channel

[@chefref5027]

He actually tried to say the cannibals were in the right. If they approached the family and just said "Hey get out of here," maybe you could say they weren't all bad. Dude thinks the family deserved to get eaten on a road trip, because they are white.

[@Immacksgdoesntpostonthisone]

I think my favorite part about this comment section is that even comments from when this video was new recognize that this is a terrible interpretation of the film

[@JasonWilliams89]

Yeah I was expecting all the new comments to be haters and all of the old ones to be fans but this is good

[@BrimstoneSociety-js6po]

He absolutely must insert his woke propaganda in the film somehow. Because as we know for these people "Everything is political (which means it must have politics I agree with)"

[@fakegeek5462]

I used to watch this guy the Batman vid he did was really good he had a crazy point about how Batman was evil for locking insane people breaking the law into insane asylums. At the time i thought that was wierd but the rest of the vid was good. So i subscribed. The he dropped this vid and i unsubcribed at the 18 min mark made a comment about why i unsubed and mostly forgot about him unless i was making a point about video essays going to shit over a insane opinion he'd be the poster child. Now he is a internet lolcow.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

​@@fakegeek5462well that's how he gets you.

[@toffeestrange7706]

Remember everyone! Don't protect your family from cannibals!

[@zeezerzam]

They're just victims of systemic racism 😢

[@lexxsadbuttrue]

And if you do, you are the racist

[@runninggrease345]

I’d be careful what you say… Wendigoon might follow you!

[@isitoveryet9525]

& if you do, you’re a bigot!!

[@thecornerkid402]

This essay is reaching so far and hard that I thought it was a parody for a while.

[@theendisthebeginningistheend]

Me too! 😅

[@jefferyjones8399]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jILRdISJa6Z4jsk

[@themadmattster9647]

it's certainly unintentionally entertaining

[@jefferyjones8399]

Not really

[@fakegeek5462]

@@jefferyjones8399 Dude destroyed his entire career in the 18 min mark then 2 years later he attacks big creators because he is jealous.

[@mrbri6463]

>Gatekeep horror >Slander bigger creators in the genre. >Force politics when it don't apply. Golly gee, I wonder why the Patreon isn't doing so hot.

[@Dice-Z]

Noooo you don't get it it's because everyone else is a dumb notsee meanie!! Not because i'm a complete (I)PoS!!

[@DinggisKhaaniMagtaal]

Act like a white savior too and then scratch your head when a native says “fuck you” on Twitter lol

[@darrylatkins5049]

His videos were always garbage too. He is definitely NOT an artist. I work in the art space in the REAL world, not some online make-believe space and this guy has definitely lived in some bubble where his parents or whatever misguided person told him his analysis or writing skills were good and just unleashed him on everyone. Sometimes, people shouldn't be encouraged. My friends and I would laugh at this guy's work in another room over wine if he submitted anything like this while pretending to be inciteful or like he is some kind of writer/journalist/reviewer. Note to editor: avoid

[@Ape0FPV]

​@darrylatkins5049 What medium of art do you do? To preface this, I think IPOS is a horrid person and certainly not an artist. However your snobby interpretation of the internet as a "fake world" is a very dated way of thinking. Virtual content is a very vital and major component of every industry imaginable. And tens of millions of artists exclusively create art in the Virtual space. Taking pride in being ignorant of nuances of Virtual art does not make you look as smart as you think it does. It simply shows how unaware you are of the extremely diverse collection of different mediums of art, all on display within the "fake" world of the internet. Don't be so ignorant of something you are to snobbish to partake in.

[@darrylatkins5049]

@Ape0FPV Would you say that his interpretation of horror, who belongs in it and such is not "snobbish"? The point is, his videos are low-effort, he says nothing we haven't already heard before, he is not a good writer, and he should really consider giving up on these sort of things. I agree he is also a horrid person, but also he isn't good at what he has wasted his time and the time of others doing

[@joshuaalach9431]

I'm enjoying this video but found the part about "we instinctively side with the holidaying family over the cannibals... But why is that?" funny. It's because they're being attacked by cannibals.

[@brainglow_lightbright]

lol

[@willowbarrelmaker8269]

I mean, the cannibals are also being attacked by a holidaying family. It's just whichever one you more culturally relate to is the point

[@chadmann132]

@@willowbarrelmaker8269 it's not like they were going to sit and have a nice chat.

[@chadmann132]

It's funny that when the underlying cause for such disparity's is often overlooked for the sake of sympathy or some sort of moral high ground, if roles were reversed, would it not be the same? It's hypocrisy at it's finest.

[@Napalm6b]

Our lovely commentator is young and has been trained in college in the B.S. artistry of the first degree known as postmodern deconstruction. 😀 Foucault, Derrida blah blur blur blah. You are right to smirk. It's a load of crud.

[@thepinkestpigglet7529]

Idk it's weird to say someone's invading your land when all that happened is they crashed their car then went looking for a lost dog

[@thepinkestpigglet7529]

@@Robocopnik well I'd let them have all that land it's just come one guys understand the family wasn't there out of malice or even desire to be there

[@Robocopnik]

@@thepinkestpigglet7529 Right? If they're bad because they're metaphorically eating those folks, then it also seems wrong to LITERALLY do so.

[@Robocopnik]

Right? Who put them in charge of all that land? Are they using it all for something? Could probably establish, like, a state park or something, if they sold some of it.

[@youcantbeatk7006]

But they're rich and white. Rich, white people are le bad.

[@goobleron]

This video has a lot of over-reaching and weird takes in general, alot of it is just pointless waffle that doesn't actually have much to do with the subject matter.

[@dandelionbodies]

I can’t imagine watching this film and coming away with the conclusion that the cannibals are secretly the good guys and the biggest tragedy is that they didn’t get to eat the people passing through. “He stabs him in the heart. Not to kill him… …but to remind him of his place.” Or maybe it was just to kill the cannibal who attacked him and his family? 🧐 I don’t know. Just my interpretation.

[@joshuaalach9431]

It's edgy takes for the sake of engagement. I like this guy's vids, and he certainly isn't the only film youtuber to tend to do this, but yeah.

[@darkjapan]

Agreed, I love this channel but some of the analysis in this video is reaching too far. How can a white family stand in for the black community or native Americans?

[@dandelionbodies]

@@darkjapan the tragedy and horror of indigenous people being exploited and harmed is in them being wronged. The hill people weren’t wronged. Some dudes got lost and then they tried to murder them. This doesn’t work as an analogy at all because when I read about (for example) the exploitation of the Native Americans, I think “wow. That was horrible and never should have happened and we should try to help fix the long-lasting damage which has resulted as a consequence.” But when I watch The Hills Have Eyes, I think “Wow. These people are dangerous murderers who attack people without provocation. Somebody needs to stop them before they murder more innocent people.”

[@darkjapan]

@@dandelionbodies I'm not sure why he didn't mention the historical reference that Craven used as inspiration, the Scottish legend of the Sawney Bean clan. A supposed group of inbred cannibals that prey on people who passed by their cave. Bean was lazy man, rather than work he chose to live in a cave and kill and eat honest people. If anything the fact that Craven decided to base this story on this legend it suggests he was rooting for the victims rather than the cannibals.

[@onetruecaesar99]

@@darkjapan I agree that he should have mentioned that, but Wes Craven himself stated that the film expresses rage against American culture and the bourgeois. Other film critics over the years have come to the same conclusion as the IPOS, that the cannibals represent "any number of oppressed, embattled and downtrodden minority/social/ethnic groups". He's not alone in thinking this way. It's certainly not a hot take for the sake of having a hot take, it's a legitimate interpretation of the movie, backed by what the director himself said.

[@MentholTea]

this is the most high level midwit commentary of all time

[@FatherManus]

Midwit is actually a compliment for this drivel.

[@isitoveryet9525]

It’s almost as if being as pretentious & condescending as humanly possible is required to be a breadtuber lol

[@DestindKnee]

As a black guy this comes off VERY offensive to me that you think of me as some monster. What the heck??? You need to check your closted racism

[@bigdaddy-b5t]

Image how the native feels and he wearing a fucking cowboy jacket making it crazy

[@tylerwhite6567]

I feel like that weirdly sympathetic take on the violent incestuous cannibals was pretty off. Regardless of class they’re predatory cannibal squatters attacking seemingly decent people.

[@TheHorrorShark]

Agreed. Plus, the “seemingly decent people” accidentally ended up there. It wasn’t like they went there to instigate or pillage. They happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and paid for it dearly by the hands of crazed, enraged cannibals. It’s pretty unjustifiable on the cannibal’s part tbh.

[@jondeem7490]

Yup

[@lockandloadlikehell]

This dude has a desert cannibal fetish to be punished for his supposed transgressions against nature and society You know it's true

[@fromgreattobrilliant922]

I didn't sympathize with the father in the first film, with his use of slurs and obvious prejudice. But I was hoping for everyone else to be okay, though.

[@archibaldstokes]

Agree!

[@DaWoWzer]

This is some real unhinged rambling, insert Billy Madison wrong answer rant.

[@jefferyjones8399]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jILRdISJa6Z4jsk No, it isnt

[@SpookyDollhouse]

​@@jefferyjones8399The stripper doesn't like you, sweetheart. ♥️

[@nomernomznomz6015]

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[@nanosanimations8705]

Yes it is.

[@SpookyDollhouse]

@@jefferyjones8399 lmao

[@Agiranto]

Looks like brainrot was stewing for a looong time.

[@curlybill3666]

It's kind of ironic that the "anti-racist" guy ended up reinforcing a common Native American stereotype by comparing them to the savage cannibals 😂

[@deeznutz8320]

And blacks to rapists lol

[@чики-э5ъ]

Did you just not look into this movie at all? the film is based on the Scottish legend of Sawney Bean, if you had done even a modicum of research into this movie maybe you wouldn't currently be getting lambasted for your half-baked racialist philosophizing.

[@stardogbillionaire]

He's unhinged, of course he hasn't looked at anything.

[@BrimstoneSociety-js6po]

Well this aged well. This guy absolutely hates doing any kind of research on anything.

[@isitoveryet9525]

Based on his other work, I’m pretty sure his research just consists of seeing who the director follows on Twitter, who he’s publicly linked to & if there are any screenshots that may or may not be authentic lmao

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@BrimstoneSociety-js6poit aged well bc it was made 3 days ago 😂

[@BrimstoneSociety-js6po]

@@isitoveryet9525 I seem to have misread as 3 years ago lmao

[@noone8785]

Wes Cravens spiteful script about going insane is my new favorite thing.

[@LucyLioness100]

That would’ve been hilarious and maddening to watch

[@limelantern5637]

That- that has to be somebody's dating app profile or something like that right? Like the internet is enormous enough that that has to be an inevitability right? Please?

[@TheLandBeyond_Productions]

Sometimes a cigarette is just a cigarette

[@ImmaLittlePip]

>The cannibals are actually minorities guys Absolute state of breadtube Absolute state of "Everything is political" people

[@quillclock]

fun when good intentions circle back around to being kind of racist. the horseshoe is real.

[@undefinedhuman7404]

"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

[@AdamaGeist]

'kind of'? Like, this is full on unabashed racism. Not even internalized racism, but unquestionable racism that is simply ignored unexamined because he thinks himself an anti-racist.

[@quillclock]

@@AdamaGeist idk if I agree. what he was doing is called being "white savior". that's a very common form if Liberal racism. trying to protect a group that didn't ask for it and can defend themselves. full blown racism is like saying slurs and discriminating against races. he would probably flog himself if he even thinks a slur XD

[@AdamaGeist]

@@quillclock The problem with that kind of benefit of the doubt is that... it flies in the face of the actual understanding of racism. See, a core element of the 'White Savior' activism perspective is that it requires the internalizing of the concept of the 'noble savage'. You can't 'save a racial group from themselves' without first seeing them as lesser than you, in some very important ways. In this case, if you think that, for example, a racial or racially motivated activist group is incapable of acting in any way outside of horrific violence, and defend them by claiming said violence is justified? It does not change that you THINK THAT SAID GROUP IS INCAPABLE OF ACTING IN ANY WAY OUTSIDE OF HORRIFIC VIOLENCE. And that's the racism. That's the discrimination.

[@simoneidson21]

@@quillclock White savior? How the fuck is he being a white savior?

[@thumbhead3370]

Love this channel but I dont think " it was actually fine that these cannibals killed, raped, and ate people who just crashed their car in the wrong spot because capitalism is bad and actually they are good guys" is the take I'd have gone with.

[@TheMadLeprechaun]

Or the fact that the gas station owner was the one who was the Jupiter family by sending people their way.

[@johnstevens5517]

I completely agree. I have yet to find a video essay channel that isn’t steeped in postmodern sewage. I think it’s drilled into their heads in film school or by their peers and idols. Lindsay Ellis is by far the worst offender. Her channel is unwatchable because of her constant arrogant whining about cis-male white heteronormativity, the patriarchy, and race. This guy isn’t as overt and I find his content really enjoyable

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Low testosterone levels in males will cause horrible takes

[@johndavidtibbetts7320]

I was gonna cite the Thermian argument as a counterpoint to this, the idea that "of course the poor people are evil, they rape pillage and murder" acts as in universe justification for why they lose. But Shadows is arguing that the cannibals are the good guys...and that that was the intended point of the movie. That's a different argument.

[@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739]

@@lockandloadlikehell get in the bin, idiots like you fuel these people

[@hurri.]

did anyone else come only to read the comments

[@Fuckthesehandles]

✋

[@xenomorph733]

yes

[@llewelynshingler2173]

He kinda invited it

[@dilophosaurusking7437]

Watched part of the video, realized it was as bad as folks said, left

[@kentonbaird1723]

Ditto.

[@Jorqell]

This is the dumbest analysis of anything I've ever heard. Absolute gold.

[@Cry4Tanelorn]

We're the hillpeople justified? Uh, no, no matter how you cut it

[@kentonbaird1723]

You gotta worry about the kind of guy that's deeply sympathetic towards incestuous, blood-thirsty, psychopathic cannibals. But then, he also thinks of minorities when he sees them, so maybe it ISN'T sympathy. It's all very confusing.

[@RyanHollinger]

I’m so looking forward to watching this once I’ve finished some work!

[@GasStationMan]

I'm watching your video immediately after this

[@cacklecough320]

Ive got both you twos videos for tonight :p

[@iap7597]

Damn, I just finished watching your Prom Night video before I found this.

[@ilikerice5208]

Ryan do February/The Blackcoats daughter. I know you’ve seen it

[@cyrisssmith8830]

Ironic I'm watching your Prom Night video right after this.

[@DJTV1307]

This has to be a babylon bee skit, right?

[@kentonbaird1723]

We've entered an age where reality is satire and satire is reality.

[@PinePrince]

I’m honestly at a loss for words. This is pure madness. 😂

[@MultiCosmosis]

This video: "The family had a flat tire and momentarily tried to retrieve their lost dog. So who's the real murdering, cannibalistic rapists here? It was self defense!"

[@themanofmovies8104]

Good god I need more glue to huff in order for the self defense thing to make any sort of sense

[@captainawf2341]

"This family was taking a vacation, and that shows everything wrong with America." Says the guy who goes to horror movie conventions and complains about how much money his videos *don't* make.

[@princeCustos324]

Leftist political Brain-rott

[@RAC00NFANGIRL]

@@captainawf2341 dude soo broke he couldn’t even pay me like this shit stain of video!

[@Xander_P.G.K]

Dude. Knowing that Craven is gone, it sucks that we never got to see his vision for a Hanzel and Gretel film... He probably would've done better than other horror studios.

[@SBelawski]

I'm sure you noticed too, but as soon as he covered that, I was like "Oh, that's why he put in the Hansel and Gretel imagery into New Nightmare" I think he was trying to send his past self a message of "hey look, I didn't forget about you"

[@Xander_P.G.K]

@@SBelawski Yeah.

[@Xander_P.G.K]

@@johndavidtibbetts7320 I definitely don't like the idea he gave in this video and probably should have said something. I don't really like when people use class (or race, culture, and sexual orientation) to justify the actions or fates of characters in a story. It's the most superficial way to look at things like that.

[@jadjason6053]

Is this why one mutant‘s name is Hansel in THHE 2?

[@Dice-Z]

@@Xander_P.G.K True, good thing people don't do that in real life. **slowly slides a certain middle east conflict behind a wall**

[@whatastandupguy3050]

He really doubled down on this video two years later, insisting that everyone else is too stupid to understand. He saw all the criticism of many varying degrees, and instead of thinking “huh, maybe I didn’t really do a good job with this one” he blames an imaginary conservative hate mob lmao Because all of the people being like “hey, I usually really like your work, but I don’t think this one is very well thought out or cohesive” to him is apparently far right bullying. Come on man, have just a little bit of humility; you aren’t perfect. There is no conspiracy, it’s just not a good video. You could’ve moved on so easily, but now you ACTUALLY have people who hate you for the genuinely dangerous and prejudiced things you’ve said and expressed in unambiguous sincerity. And you brought it entirely on yourself, I wonder if you’ll ever accept that.

[@Dremmen]

I remember when my literature teacher explained how most artists works are up for us, the viewer to interpret and find our own meaning in; to discover what the artist/writer was trying to convey, and she said everything is up to interpretation. She was wrong. Some people are like the lunatics shouting that God is coming for us all on the side of the road. You fall into that category of the poor interpretation crowd.

[@simoneidson21]

Wes Craven literally said this was a valid interpretation. He isn’t the first guy to have a class based analysis of this movie

[@GigaChadh976]

@@simoneidson21wes craven is dumb

[@Dice-Z]

No she's not wrong. Interpretation is what good art is all about. That doesn't mean this guy sharing his interpretation isn't stupid af, that him acting like it's factual isn't stupid af, and that his interpretation isn't stupid af. Because there are stupid and good interpretations.

[@kadalsaurus6232]

@@Dice-Z interepretation is saying more about the interpreter rather than the work itself

[@orwellianson]

You’re a loony.

[@siamesefightingfish2861]

Drink 2-3 beers before watching. It is so unbelievably funny. 😂 😭

[@lexxsadbuttrue]

I'm here only for the comments

[@gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476]

​@@lexxsadbuttrue same here lmao

[@williamtimonen6814]

Counter point: Murder wrong.

[@willowbarrelmaker8269]

Counter point: There's plenty of times murder is reasonable. Usually when it's called war or self defense.

[@gamblorrr]

@@willowbarrelmaker8269 then by definition it's not murder lol.

[@willowbarrelmaker8269]

@@gamblorrr Then this movie isn't about murder. It's about a war to defend your land.

[@gamblorrr]

@@willowbarrelmaker8269 well through the twisted logic of the rapist cannibals.. sure. From a legal standpoint. no.

[@williamtimonen6814]

@@willowbarrelmaker8269 How det is this movie either from the cannibals side? You cant just ”Were declaring war on you for being on our land despite how you dont even know we exist. Now were gonna murder your children and rape your women”. Like by this storys appearent logic it would 100% be morally justified to murder any farmers who walks into a city ”because its not their land”. And theyd be even more justified because there is no way the farmers would miss that there are city people in the city.

[@RallyTheTally]

I like how the creator of this video sees cannibal murders and think's their the good guys. Somehow the less powerful are always the 'good ones'. No, most people are as evil as the people above and below them.

[@thumbhead3370]

After watching his newest (at the time) video, I think that's what he was trying to get at. I think he got a little too lost in the sauce trying to justify the presence of violence and perhaps unintentionally was too reductive about it

[@LuznoLindo]

I disagree with that last statement; there are many out there who've definitely evil, but to state _most_ are like that is too pessimistic a worldview.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

@@LuznoLindo It all depends on how you define evil. I think most people like restricting the term “evil” to people like Hitler or Bundy as it absolves them of any possible guilt. But technically if you do any wrong to others and have sins you could be considered evil. Humans are complicated creatures with each having some good and some evil in them.

[@LuznoLindo]

@@thedukeofchutney468 Very well written. I do wish the OP here elaborated on their own point, but your comment proved to be the more insightful one.

[@nikkizimm]

You've got to be kidding me with this lmao

[@R0B0T_J0NES61]

I just came here to say after discovering you thanks to the drama, you started. As a Native American I find it highly offensive, and down right racist that your first thought was to compare my ancestry to cannibalistic savages!

[@Guyvermectin]

The racism is coming from inside the house

[@metropolicec1787]

this guy would defend slaughter family in court

[@willkayegmail]

Gave up on this about 45 minutes in. The comments are already littered with people extrapolating why in great detail and I have to echo them: even as someone who already leans hard to the left, I can't understand how you came to the conclusions you did. Also, in a video essay, you don't need to keep stressing this is how you feel or this is your opinion; we already know that and it sounds clumsy. Like your other stuff, but not this one.

[@theendisthebeginningistheend]

Yeah... 😓

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@theendisthebeginningistheendmost video essayits would get an f from a English teacher.

[@havocxmosquito2839]

This is by far the definition of chronically online

[@thetutorialslayer1809]

I love when my race is compared to cannibals 👍

[@TheMasterUnity]

He’s going to infantilize you and compare you to insane cannibals and you’re gonna like it!

[@thetutorialslayer1809]

@@TheMasterUnity The master did nothing wrong ❤️

[@simoneidson21]

Do you not see the similarities in the clothing

[@simoneidson21]

@@TheMasterUnity Lmao what? How the fuck is this infantilizing anyone?

[@TheMasterUnity]

@@simoneidson21 By comparing native Americans to a band of inbred rapist cannibals that brutalize people for simply nearing their land, is basically saying they were on that level of intelligence.

[@MalusTmcraeensis]

I wonder how native Americans and African Americans feel when this guy compares them to the cannibal mutants of this movie.

[@bwnodak]

"In a way, are they not justified for their actions?" Oh my, you might not be very good at this.

[@An_Overcooked_Pie]

Right? Like...did my man genuinely watch the movie at all? Last I checked, no one's justified in being violent cannabilistic rapists (still can't believe he skipped over that part, what the fuck.)

[@darkjapan]

Craven based his story on the Scottish legend of the Sawney Bean clan. A supposed group of inbred cannibals that preyed on people who passed by their cave. Bean was a lazy man. Rather than work he chose to live in a cave and kill and eat honest people. This isn't a movie where white people stand in for the black community or native Americans!! Or a movie about some cannibals who are "victims" of economic discrimination!? It's a horror tale designed to scare people living in the city, of the barbarism that they think may be lurking on the edge of civilization. Their prejudices are proved right!

[@anarche4900]

This guy is always trying to put a woke spin on things don’t bother Lmao

[@theothertonydutch]

Intention and perception are two different things.

[@anarche4900]

@@theothertonydutch sure whatever buddy

[@FINNSTIGAT0R]

Yeah, his speculation of meaning got way outta hand in this video.

[@theothertonydutch]

@@anarche4900 What a lame and spineless response.

[@LH-be4bk]

Overall super interesting video, but it seems like you skimmed over the sheer amount of sexual violence against women? Especially considering how integral those scenes were in making the hills have eyes, last house on the left etc. so disturbing, and is a driving force in the plot - the Carter daughter being raped ramps up their desperation, stealing their infant daughter, the cannibal daughter rebelling against her family due to misogynistic abuse. Constantly showing the scenes of sexual violence but barely drawing attention to it is strange.

[@averysspookshowspectacular6205]

I haven't really thought about how important the female characters were to the drive of the story. Nice focus.

[@arroeducarlion4990]

because a woman couldnt be like a man and defend herself an entire family died so misogynistic and who woulda thought women cant be men i bet she never said " i dont need a man " after

[@softkitty8031]

My thoughts exactly.

[@KusanagiMotoko100]

It's because I don't believe this guy really thinks about women that much.

[@An_Overcooked_Pie]

​@@KusanagiMotoko100 Personally I think it's cause if he did mention all the sexual violence, it would already ruin his flimsy take about the THHE. I mean don't get me wrong, siding with violent cannibals who you interpert/compare to certain races, is already a bad take, but siding with violent rapist cannibals? An even worse take.

[@jselen1]

The pretentious affectation of the narrator’s voice contrasted with the bumbling, remedial syntax of the script is amazing. Whoever wrote this character captured the “twenty-something, pompous mid-wit” archetype better than i’ve ever seen before.

[@luket3452]

You have an extremely warped moral compass

[@NICK41206]

1:20:19 Holy fuck dude. I saw Hills Have Eyes 2 over 15 years ago and I know you’re wrong. -The armed forces were national guardsmen training -The “flashback” was a failed training session. -The mutant cannibals were breeding for population, not meat farming. Have you ever not half assed research on a single video? Just one?

[@bbg372]

This entire tributary about vertical integration is totally irrelevant to this topic.

[@flask223]

No were you listening?

[@bbg372]

@@flask223 If it can be excised from the video and not affect the narrative, it is irrelevant. It is a meandering diversion from the subject of the video.

[@acespectre5461]

Eh, I liked it and thought it was one of the stronger bits of the video.

[@gamblorrr]

should have been a topic for another video essay tbh.

[@EarthsGeomancer]

This channel makes mountains out of molehills. Sometimes, things are not that deep or complex.

[@DoktorPaj]

Yeah but the patreon $$$ gotta come from somewhere.

[@llewelynshingler2173]

​@@DoktorPajNot from here, it would seem

[@JacF6734]

Literally any actual right winger would watch this movie and would immediately think “Oh, they’re making fun of white Southern hillbillies”

[@TheMusicGuy-Cymru]

Atr you stupid

[@DobbyBogg]

I don't know how to put this other than I enjoy your vids but man, sometimes your over analyzing comes off as really strange and at times even insensitive. The Hill people try to sexaully assault and kill people. I understand you don't like rich people but it comes off as overly bitter and less analytical. We don't have any proof from the film that the family is overly rich. And even if they were, unlike farmers and the lower class, the hill people contribute nothing to society meaning they aren't being taken advantage of by anyone. To also say that The Hill people represent minorities or other oppressed groups is also a huge stretch. I think it says a lot more about how you view marginalzed groups rather than what the film is depicting. I stopped at the Patreon ad and thought about unsubbing. But I'm going to stay because I really like your content and think you do a great job. Just not this vid.

[@exoblivione6086]

“I’m 100% not racist.” Is what it felt like. Americans are so obsessed with race they can’t see past it and it effects their arguments. Like, the cannibals try to sexually assault the girl but they are deemed the victims because they have less resources? I agree with you. The family have a right to defend themselves as anyone else would.

[@fathertimehaha5746]

I don’t disagree with the idea that the hill people are a metaphor for the lower class, but his claim that this is only represented in the original and not the remake is ridiculous. The intro alone shows this heavily. Not to mention the idea that he calls this horrifically violent film insensitive, but not because of the violent rape it features but because the hill people are featured with real life deformities. Like what kind of argument is that. If you want to call the movie bleak that’s fine, but it’s not mean spirited because an aspect of it was grounded in reality.

[@MrUseless247]

That's actually an interesting point. This video made such a leap to suggest that the hill people were a representation of minorities, ignoring the fact that the hill people contribute nothing vs minorities who often do the grunt work many others refuse to do. So, he's either saying that the hill people and minorities are one of the same, or he has no clue what he was spewing out.

[@richardkaufenberg2454]

You are spot on, it seems like low hanging fruit to make it about class warfare and marginalized indigenous groups. I don’t know, there’s a lot to read into, but this is on the noses nose

[@timcombs2730]

He turned this interpretation of what was just kind of an interesting and entertaining movie into Marxist propaganda just because that’s the only thing he learned in college

[@Chickenbowser]

So this is what breatube does to people's brains.

[@billyhunter144]

He unironically said white guilt lol

[@IsraDevil]

Hi r/youtubedrama , hope you're haivng a sane day

[@NeepNeepPohn]

The most sane post on r/youtubedrama sounds eerily like the crackhead on the metro I frequent

[@winnamm]

In case you care about how ridiculously off you are in terms of authorial intent, I had a chance to sit down with Wes Craven in 2009 (ironically shortly after the housing bubble crash at a very "eat the rich" moment in America). I asked him about the class warfare reading of Chainsaw Massacre, Hills Have Eyes, etc, and he absolutely lambasted the essay I was quoting. Said essay contained nearly exactly the paragraph on how the white overlords won because of a class traitor and how cruelty was somehow the point towards the hill people despite the clear and obvious self-defense going on. Craven stated in very absolute terms that none of that was in any way meant to be conveyed by his writing. in case you wanted to know.

[@gvd72]

Not saying that IPOS isn’t insane here, but how are we supposed to believe you here? Can’t someone claim they met Craven to prove IPOS right in retaliation?

[@winnamm]

Up until 2015 I'd have said go to a convention and ask him yourself. Sad that he's gone. In any case, I guess the answer to your question is of course, people can always lie, especially on the internet. All I've got to share is the experience. However, I do seem to remember that Craven had multiple interviews where he evidenced a very Tolkien-esque hatred of allegory and message beyond the story itself, so in a more general sense (and perhaps specifically, I haven't seen all his appearances), I think he's made his feelings clear on such.

[@xengar]

Ah nah, you don’t get to play the whole moral relativism and say the visuals are akin to modern racial politics; thereby stating that any violence we see is inherently just, simply because the Other is rising against the conventional. If the audience can’t cheer for themselves because they’re actually the bad ones, while also uninterested in cheering for the Other, then why be invested at all?

[@WackaMei]

Very succinctly put my friend.

[@Abhalerao96]

You are making a lot of sense. Thanks for putting it out here. I don't agree with his take on mutants in any of the five films.

[@yvonnewilson2242]

THIS. I am so sick of content creators who try to fit woke ideology into everything---DESPITE THE FACT THAT WES CRAVEN NEVER SAID THAT THIS FILM WAS MEANT TO PORTRAY, RELATE TO NOR REPRESENT SUCH THINGS. Wanna know what Wes Craven himself said about this movie? Craven said of The Hills Have Eyes, “This picture has a lot of power. *It is all about family.* It is all about competition between the various generations-not wanting to be embarrassed in front of them, not wanting to expose them to something you think you are protecting them from. Competition between father and brother… *it was all about being a man.”* STRAIGHT OUTTA CRAVEN'S MOUTH. Nothing about race, class or any other social justice bullshit.

[@simoneidson21]

@@yvonnewilson2242 God you people are so fucking angry all the time. The author's intention is just one aspect of media analysis

[@yvonnewilson2242]

@@simoneidson21 So pointing out obvious biases makes me angry now? Hope you have that same energy when someone complains about media *not representing [insert whatever "oppressed "minority" here]* and gets angry about it. The difference between myself and the perpetually offended is the fact that I'm not calling for this Creator's cancellation. And who are you to try and be the arbiter of my emotions and intent? Nobody---that's who. Pointing out my "anger" (I was more irritated than angry but go off I guess) does *NOT* give you the moral high ground. My point was the creator inserted his own biased opinion onto a body of work that Craven created, and touting that this was Craven's intent--- despite what he has said about his intentions being the complete opposite of what the creator says about it. "iT's hIs oPiNioN, tHo." So? Just because it's someone's opinion doesn't mean it makes that someone's biases valid. It's one thing to express an opinion, it's another when you use said opinions and project onto those who never voiced those sentiments. That's more disrespectful than putting words in someone's mouth. Possibly worse, because everyone who buys that BS will not watch it get out of the movie the way Craven wanted it. And this type of content with these types of opinions is all over every form of media we love. Damn right I'm sick of it. Get over it and go clutch your pearls somewhere else.

[@riddlerdiddler1425]

I think the fact that the characters are mutated is secondary to them being horrifically violent rapists, but to each his own I guess.

[@MojoSojoJojo]

same, that part always horrified me more

[@dandelionbodies]

No you don’t understand. It’s okay that they’re violent rapists because the middle-class family got lost on their land.

[@EvilDick1995]

@@dandelionbodies lol

[@hellstarremina3693]

It is kind of a trend in films for villains to be visibly disabled/mutated/scarred in some ways, not just in this series but in others.

[@the_Googie]

@@hellstarremina3693 well most rapists arent exactly handsome either. Thats the reason why they force themselves onto others.

[@WackaMei]

>are the hill people not justified in their own way No. They are cannibals. The rich may be rich, but there's nothing to say that they've personally profited off of the hill people's suffering. People make choices, and the hill people chose to stay in the hills - chose to remain cannibals over leaving their land. That was their choice, a result of their own prerogative. Had the hill people opened up a dialogue with this traveling family, this family might have been able to send them help. They chose to eat the family instead. Cannibalism shouldn't be excused. It's barbaric. This all reminds me of how some people excuse culturally imported child slavery as "just being part of a different culture, so we have to respect it." No, we don't.

[@CrazyBanana510]

Yeah, Zane just completely lost me with this point. I have no idea how you could possibly see the hill people's actions as justified, especially after the trailer attack scene.

[@FoobarMagnum]

It's also seems like kind of a stretch to me to say that the family in the first movie represent the "Rich". They seem much more like a 70s middle class, suburban family than the wealthy elite. Well, unless you consider everyone above the level of poverty to be rich.

[@systemdude1100]

I looked at the comments to make sure I’m not the only one that was lost on the “oppression vs oppressor” take he has. I understand that need and reality of those themes in cinema, but sometimes people over analyze until they force that into any film.

[@Hades1100]

@@systemdude1100 thank you like omfg

[@starchilde8698]

He isn't interpreting the film literally, why is this so hard for people to understand? If you can't meet the author of the video where he is and critique him on what he is actually saying then your criticisms become effectively worthless.

[@buttertool6211]

I thought it was a commentary on that anybody can make violence, whether be a rich boy, a poor man, or an animal, I don't really see the "capitalism bad" or the "class systems bad" and I did not see at all the justification that the cannibals were in the right to eat and kill innocent people. I don't know from where all those analogies came from lol

[@chadmann132]

I mean, Wes Craven was probably one to talk, at the time I have no doubt the sentiment was highly rich/establishment/company bad and nature/less fortunate good, it was the 70's after all and the Vietnam War was happening. Whatever the sort of comparisons that this content creator is trying to make isn't valid by today's standards, the time the film was made was very different, though something's were prevalent then, as they are now.

[@buttertool6211]

@@chadmann132 Now I can see the Vietnam influences on the movie, but beyond that idk...it feels like a reach

[@chadmann132]

@@buttertool6211 of course, I agree that everything is a reach, it's a horror movie after all.

[@timcombs2730]

It’s because this is the only thing that people learn in college nowadays

[@TheKilld3vil]

John Rambo said it best when he said, "When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing."

[@betabug64]

Murder is actually really frowned upon in America. It goes against the traditional concept of ‘perseverance’, which means to live

[@TPH7NS]

This is where all the skitzo posting came from, good job on not clarifying your points, rather take the easy route and just call everyone an idiot

[@princepython701]

Good lord! This is like if r/politics started reviewing horror films lol.

[@leviticusprime4904]

More like r/whitepeopletwitter.

[@princepython701]

@@leviticusprime4904 either way IPOS will never recover from this. This was just embarrassing.

[@setsunatenma9467]

the video lacks enough dislikes for how bullshit it is

[@guardian9394]

As much as I normally love these videos, I feel like this interpretation of the movies is kind of a stretch.

[@Skullkan6]

Yeah absolutely. This is a stretch. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[@hansjuker8296]

He's a shrieking soyboy liberal.

[@orwellianson]

I would hate to be as shallow and superficial as you. 😂

[@lenny_boxx4206]

​@@orwelliansonblud conflate common sense with being shallow blud is diving deep in the shit pool

[@orwellianson]

@@lenny_boxx4206 the only one shallow is you.

[@magaz]

“Massive machine guns” and “practically unarmed people” referring to a scene with some blokes with AR’s shooting a guy with the gnarliest hatchet/cleaver/cosplaying some gnarly guy in the wastelands with an apocalypse weapon is a hell of a statement…

[@MrDragon7742]

I know I'm late to the party, but I need to say while most of your videos are great, this was a strange one. There's a lot of reliance on an analogy that isn't justified. But the thing that struck me the most is how you never once discuss the sexual violence in these movies, even while talking at length about the symbolic oppression and exploitation you see in other elements of the films. It's such an odd and glaring oversight in your analysis.

[@dibbadyda1728]

I dont think his channel is strong enough to be completely creative, especially talking about cedtain bleak topics, as youtube can manipulate views. The man's gotta eat

[@goobleron]

I completely agree it caught me off guard how little this video has to do with The Hills Have Eyes. It went off the rails early the focus of this video is all over the place its very jarring.

[@AngelaMerici12]

@@goobleron I think the same.

[@system-error]

I think he also neglects to mention that Wes Craven got those cannibals from the legend of Sawney Bean's cannibal clan, who were Scottish cannibals in Britain, not American ones in America. Craven simply transposed the cannibal clan idea through space and time, to 70s America. All this political analysis is just to please film professors! It's not really what Wes Craven cared about. Wes Craven simply made a new people-eating Bean clan in America because it was a cool idea, scary. And he probably couldn't afford or be bothered to go to Scotland, so he just did it in America. No big political statement! Just making a good horror movie on the cheap, with scary legends borrowed from Britain.

[@antisocialal4799]

I skipped most of the video until he got to the remake. I’m disappointed. This video was pointless and droned on about nothing. Most of it isn’t even about the movie or relevant. Also, you CAN make a film with real disabilities without it coming off as ableist. I don’t see how the remake was trying to be ableist in any way. It just seemed like they were using real disorders due to the amount of radiation and inbreeding the clan sustained. If anything, I feel bad for the clan. They wouldn’t be cannibals and mutated if they hadn’t hidden in the mines due to be ousted of their homes with nowhere to go. Waste of a full hour.

[@goobleron]

Honestly this video should have been called "My interpretation of a movies symbolism with very little to do with the actual contents of the film discussed at length, a lesson in socioeconomic and a breakdown of streaming services and wes cravens career" this was very jarring it almost felt like click bait lol you're videos are normally great but I could barely finish this one it was saying a whole lot of nothing. It was very jarring how often you splayed off into non topics or reached very hard to make a benign point connect back to something related to the subject matter.

[@theendisthebeginningistheend]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way LMAO!

[@zmbdog]

That's quite the title lol But yeah, I quit following this channel due to this ridiculous video.

[@Aluunyax3]

Oh god.. He's not even being ironic

[@skylar5257]

So this is the video where it all started, from here on out he’d complain he’s losing traction in the algorithm. I’d say The Hills Have Eyes is the perfect franchise to destroy someone like Zane. Edit: It’s funny because even the comments from two years ago are clowning on this for being a dogcrap analysis lol.

[@cyberbeep5187]

I love the video, but I feel like a majority of your points had nothing to do with the movie, and the actual points were solid when they touched on things, such as Wes Craven struggling, or how camera shots improved, or how the story is partially missing in one film. I love your works man, but this one felt like it was reaching for a message that wasn't present

[@guilhermesstrueb881]

He tries too hard to present an erroneous/personal analysis in his videos, the Lovecraft one was even laughable. The Batman one was very good.

[@LostTurntable]

He DESPERATELY needs an editor. That tangent about Netflix and Last House? No place in this video.

[@hirocheeto7795]

@@guilhermesstrueb881 His video on Lovecraft is one of his best, in my opinion. For this one, it really just felt like he was reaching.

[@brianmeen2158]

@@LostTurntable editor indeed. He could trim a lot from many of these videos and it would be much better

[@alaes3570]

I think the real villain was the dog

[@thatnoobnextdoor]

I agree. That first dog ran over a mile just to attack some random guy on a cliff. Sure, he was a cannibal, but the dog couldn't know that.

[@kentonbaird1723]

The dog was planted by the CIA to break up a commune in the desert, to protect capitalist interests.

[@shuckster7400]

i love this channel and your work but this was way off mark. how could you ever justify rape, cannibalism, and murder. i agree with your ideas on capitalism, and movies like Ready or Not really pulled off the “fuck rich people” vibe and while i definitely think the mutants were wronged by the government, that does not justify their actions in any way.

[@willowbarrelmaker8269]

I don't entirely disagree, but there is an extent of the 'civilized' people being at their core no better, and only taking the moral high road because they have the stolen material wealth and thus don't have the need to act that way. It's very easy for a culture to decide what is and isn't right and then watch the people they stole from do what's wrong in order to survive. It's not so much "They're right and we're wrong" and more "We're no better than them."

[@Azzabackam]

@@willowbarrelmaker8269 This is the core of it. It's not that the cannibals are somehow right for their awful acts. It's that they never had any other choice.

[@Samplelord]

@@Azzabackam ...They did have a choice, they chose to use the gas station guy to lure people to eat and rape. They make no attempt to live another way and gleefully enjoy what they do. Since one of the Hill tribe decides to save the baby and turns against her own people shows you they all have a choice.

[@timcombs2730]

He went to college to learn Marxist Theorhetorical interpretation to overanalyze something that wasn’t to be taken too seriously to begin with. Probably to deflect that he’s guilty of much of the oppression that he’s hates so much

[@willowbarrelmaker8269]

@@timcombs2730 The movie was literally inspired by the supposed execution of Sawney Bean, and how the civilized people in that scenario were just as barbaric as the cannibals. He is correctly identifying the intended central theme of the movie. Whether you agree with the movie or not, the analysis is entirely reflective of the writer's intention.

[@AN_PVS-2]

What a reach, lmao.

[@BlondeMcGuinn]

These comments are hilarious, the old and new alike. Hell yeah. I’ve gotten more from reading them than actually listening to this man and his parody essay.

[@systemdude1100]

This is the first time I’ve had a hard time finishing one of these videos. Personal interpretation has always been a part of your work, but the take of oppression vs oppressed in the original film strikes me reading something into a film that isn’t really there. Not everything has to be an allegory for systemic racism, and there’s a lot of victim blaming in your take. The trauma the survivors from part one feel is white guilt? Really?

[@acespectre5461]

Agreed. In Praise of shadows is an awesome channel, but he does that type of thing a lot

[@systemdude1100]

@@acespectre5461 I’m normally cool with it as a passive thing inherent in someone creating content, this one was just very heavy handed and didn’t land for me at all.

[@flask223]

Maybe you’re wrong

[@hershmergersh6733]

I had to stop at the hour mark. Seeing malice where there obviously was none is getting far too common and I'm tired of being bashed over the head with the social agenda stick

[@Ibex_Moon]

Literally just stopped the video for this very reason. Really disappointing because I love this guys work.

[@Joe.Rogan.]

Yeah.. people are right. You're not very good at this. My best advice is when you go to apply for work and your potential employer asks about your lack of work experience just say you were in a coma. You're not winning any points admitting to trying to make a living off writing high school level essays on horror movies for your KZbin channel.

[@jrottendevil]

The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong with this one.

[@KittSpiken]

You can defend your home without eating people.

[@hoodedman6579]

Source?

[@KittSpiken]

@@hoodedman6579 I'm sure if you search news for "man defends home" 99% of hits will not include cannibalism.

[@-EJ-]

Now you tell me.

[@andrewgreen77]

Wait really? Damn, now i got options

[@jamie6819]

You really re opened a can of worms here dude, i dont think you understand the internet yet. Stay well, guy

[@johnnycaralta]

In order to stay well, you must be well. This dude isn't. He's a brain-dead moron.

[@spookystone846]

I can understand where you’re coming from on a broader level with some of your points, but I don’t think saying that a group of cannibals who act like animals, and rape people is an allegory for black people or any other group of people who aren’t white is a good take at all. I mean sure the family is on a basic level privileged but they ended up on their land by accident and didn’t go there with the purpose of messing with the hill people and to allude that they “deserved it” in any sense is also a bad take. That’s kinda like saying a rape victim was “asking for it” I love your channel man and I’m not saying this to be an asshole or anything, but this video just felt really off with the conclusions you came to Edit: well, 2 years later and this was the beginning of the end

[@theendisthebeginningistheend]

Yeah. 😓

[@nameunknown5106]

What a situation, huh?

[@thecornerkid402]

I unsubscribed after this one and just came back because someone commented on my comment. Could you elaborate on beginning of the end? There seems to have been some new recent happenings since there are a lot of comments from the last week.

[@MesserMusic]

@@thecornerkid402 he tried to cancel a bunch of people saying that they’re far right extremist without any proof whatsoever. Also tried to say criticizing. This particular video is racist.

[@thecornerkid402]

@@MesserMusic well that’s fun.

[@charlesman8722]

Random people in a RV breaks down. Get attacked by cannibals. “iTs aN aLoGoRy fOr rAcIsM eAt tHe rIcH!1”

[@brianmeen2158]

Haha right. Ridiculous

[@simoneidson21]

Why do you think the cannibals are cannibals? It's because of their class. They are poor and victimized. It's likely they resorted to cannibalism for a reason

[@martidavid1519]

@@simoneidson21 They live in the middle of fucking nowhere, where there are more animals around than there are humans. They would have a heck of an easier time hunting game than going out of their way for human flesh.

[@kadalsaurus6232]

@@simoneidson21 not all, some canibalism motivated by mental health and spiritiualism. there used to be crazy cult and indigenous tribe in my country that do that shit under the reason eating human flesh will gave them supranatural power despite living in very rich & fertile land

[@user-hdhdhhdhdhsnjdjdjdioowj]

@@simoneidson21no there are a LOT of people who are super poor or even have nothing who don’t resort to rape, murder, kidnapping and canibalism. Class has nothing to do with this situation

[@jasonhunter2819]

There's a lot of stretching and misinterpretation of where real class divides are in this one that are just not in line with what's presented in the film.

[@disolvedecay]

I mean who are you to say this? I think everyone can interpret a piece of art differently there's no right or wrong answer lol

[@jasonhunter2819]

@@disolvedecay I'm me.

[@timcombs2730]

@@disolvedecay There’s plenty of wrong answers

[@chrishowell6469]

Dude, I think you missed the point of The Hills Have Eyes. It's a story about an everyday American family who are brutally attacked by a vicious group of cannibals. Tada! I have no idea where you got your take from. The cannibals may THINK they're justified because of what has happened to them, but they're not. They're savage cannibals who rape and torture a family who accidentally end up crashed in the desert that they THINK they own because Jupiter ended up there because his Dad didn't want to deal with a vicious little monster. It's not nice, but he is a monster. I am actually amazed you made a link to marginalised groups and actually resort to victim blaming here. Honestly, its not cool. I understand interpretations, but the idea that this family is in anyway slightly or indirectly guilty or deserving of what happens because they're white and privileged is a pretty gross interpretation. The politics you're discussing has nothing to do with this film. And if it does - which I doubt - the creators did a fucking terrible job with it. Making the marginalised groups cannibal rapists? Yeah that's a great alagory. This is a poor take, dude. Sometimes horror isn't meant to have a message. Sometimes it's just creepy campfire ghost stories brought to life through the magic of cinema. With that said, I did find your views on Netflix and the monopolisation of film to be very interesting and would like to hear more on that.

[@chadmann132]

You summed up my thoughts exactly.

[@timcombs2730]

He didn’t learn how to analyze Film chronically or talk about it in any significant way all we learned to do was make a Marxist propaganda piece out of his analyzing of it from his college professors

[@FranNyan]

The trouble is, even the Netflix part is wrong. Netflix turned to producing original content because movie rights holders were trying to price it out of existence once it started being more streaming and less DVD based rentals. Cable TV had plenty of "exclusive originals" in it's premium (and not so premium) line ups, ie Lifetime TV movies, HBO originals, all of the B-movies Scifi started churning out, so putting all the focus on Netflix is honestly a little baffling...

[@Danceeagle9725]

I don’t agree with everything that was said here, but considering Wes Craven is known for sharp satire and was an English teacher prior to being a filmmaker, I think it’s very justified to think that there’s a lot to read into in this film

[@rynetrowbridge8240]

Seek God my dude, your soul can still be saved.

[@angel_of_rust]

idk man if I were God i'd cringe at this man before yeeting him to Hell

[@darthzackariusnickthenamethede]

But his brain can't

[@adg9042]

when you saw cannibalistic rapists why did you think of native americans and black people? idk man seems kinda wrong