The history and health effects of seed oils by Nina Teicholz

Nina Teicholz, investigative science journalist and opinion writer, talks about the history of seed oils, which include corn, canola, soybean and peanut oil, and their health effects. Before seed oils, we used to cook with lard, tallow, suet and butter. Through hydrogenation, hardened oil entered our food supply in the form of Crisco for the first time in 1911. Then came margarine, designed to replace butter, followed by cooking oils. These oils got a boost in 1961, when the American Heart Association recommended polyunsaturated oil to fight heart disease. But then studies showed a higher rate of death from cancer and higher rates of gallstones and strokes. Watch the video to learn about the trans fat ban, the toxic substances produced by heated oils and Teicholz's lessons on oils.
Teicholz is best known for her New York Times bestseller, The Big Fat Surprise, which upended the conventional wisdom on dietary fat, especially on saturated fat and vegetable oils. Teicholz is also the founder and current Board Chair of the Nutrition Coalition, a nonprofit group working to ensure that nutrition policy reflects the best and most current science. The Nutrition Coalition is responsible for generating interest in Congress about the need for greater transparency and scientific rigor in the Dietary Guidelines for Americans, resulting in four reports by the National Academies of Sciences, which represent the first-ever outside peer review of this important nutrition policy.
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[@trail.blazer]

Even in my own kitchen, I noticed that when I used to cook with seed oils, there was a sticky film that accumulated on the surfaces near the cooker. We started cooking with ghee, tallow and butter. Now there is absolutely zero accumulation. Also, I was surprised at how easy it is to clean off animal fats from utensils. Just a bit of hot water does most of the job and the pans look cleaner, but when I used seed oils it was sometimes quite a long job to get it off the pans.

[@dawnelder9046]

My kids managed to get seed oils on the ceiling. Thick, hard amber crust. So hard to get off.

[@ambrosiofamily6902]

@@dawnelder9046 kids are quite innovative, aren’t they?

[@christopherellis2663]

I once was contracted to clean the walls and ceiling of a hospital canteen. 1970s. Gunge.

[@audreygregis8721]

I can so attest to that, because almost a decade ago, when we believed the lies, we were using Grapeseed oil to fry with. OMGosh, it got everywhere in the kitchen! I have never ever had to clean oil like this from any kitchen I owned. It was horrible! I can only imagine what it does to the inside of the body. Went Carnivore almost 5yrs ago, make my own tallow. It's a breeze to clean up!

[@lathagopalakrishnan9719]

A good response n finding we thank you

[@pollyester6639]

My mum died at 88 fabulous sharp brain, my Aunty 91 and 89. No Alzheimer’s in either. They were brought up on lard and butter, and no packet, convenience food, and no microwaves. Dr Ben Bickman brought my awareness to this. We’ve been conned.

[@niceadz6164]

Nina is and always will be an absolute legend for her work, exposing the truth on fats. Humanity owes her a great debt ❤

[@cherylmcduff5388]

Totally agree

[@karlwheatley1244]

Speaking as a university researcher who studies healthy nutrition and nutrition myths, Teicholz is known for blatant misinformation. Dozens of the best experimental studies show that seed oils are not inflammatory and other experimental research shows that replaces saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat reduces rates of cardiovascular disease.

[@doobybro1207]

Dr. Roy swank observed any hydrogenated oil or packaged foods with those oils were detrimental to MS patients and put together a very strict diet to control the disease progression. He started this in 1948. We are slow to the game. Glad to see it is getting headlines now.

[@sheilacollins9384]

So glad you mentioned this! Any diet can benefit if these oils are removed

[@oldbiker9739]

real Dr's had this all figured out in the 30's 40's and 50's .

[@karlwheatley1244]

Generally, Swank recommended VERY low fat diets, so you were supposed to sharply reduce saturated animal fat too.

[@AI-vs7sm]

The moderator mentioned asking the food dept about seed oils and got the reply that they DO NOT use "seed oils". Please ask him to go back there and ask if they use" VEGETABLE OILS", since that's what everyone calls them. Lets see how they answer that!

[@hoboonwheels9289]

Not only that but does the food they use have veg oil?

[@AlastrionaS]

Yes, I worked in restaurants for years and they all used the same 10 gallon buckets of canola oil. We’d use a bucket a week easily-and only one stick of butter at the most (for the plate right before it went out.)

[@deborahschumann8286]

I stopped eating any seed oil. Stopped completely mid Sept. today (mid November) I am pain free. I have been told my pain is from osteoarthritis…. Well…it is gone. Only change? No more seed oils in my diet.

[@kazimierzgaska5304]

What kind of pains?

[@Pondapple]

OMG - I remember when I was cooking with corn oil, there was an almost baked on sticky residue on the pans used in the oven. Not easy to clean off.

[@OpinionPiece901]

It was like glue. Imagine that stuff inside our bodies.

[@lyndobla]

God bless you for your good work and courageous stand in exposing the evils of seed oils.

[@chargermopar]

I use discarded seed oils as a fuel. Those polymers formed with heat can clog the fuel system and the oxidation can rust out steel parts.

[@dawnelder9046]

I keep them in the garden shed. Kills tent worms almost at once.

[@nosretep1960]

Nina has been such an icon of the battle against the evil medical, media, food, and pharma Devil establishments, and continues to please people who don't want to be ravaged by chronic disease and those coluding, conspiring, predator establishments! Thank you Nina 🎉

[@karlwheatley1244]

"Nina has been such an icon of the battle against the evil medical, media, food, and pharma Devil establishments" Uhh, speaking as a university researcher who studies nutrition myths, she is known as a fountain of misinformation about nutrition. She's basically a paid PR person for big beef and big fat. Meanwhile dozens of experimental studies find that cooking with seed oils does not raise inflammatory markers and often reduces them.

[@sheilacollins9384]

As a kid I noticed a nasty acrid taste in my mouth after eating fried foods. Have learned to avoid them.

[@azsunburns]

We can remember when restaurants like McDonald's & KFC used beef tallow for frying. When they were duped into seed oils, the flavors & crispness changed. That taste you are referring to is from rancid oils

[@sarahbuckley5638]

Many people seem to have lost their sense of taste… I can’t bear the flavour of seed oils now…

[@margomoore4527]

That’s why modern doughnuts taste so terrible and smell bad. In the fifties doughnuts were made in melted lard heated to a high temperature. Doughnuts were brown, not pale yellow. They were delicious! On those rare occasions when I drive by a Crispy Creme store, the odor is positively nauseating.

[@oldbiker9739]

November 1 2023 blood sugar 10.1 , Nov 6 5.3 , no bread no sugar , no pasta , no potatoes, no meat. no oils, omad, freaking amazing 6 days is all it took , my doc says I need insulin injections I laughed in his face too many Doctors know nothing about the proper food to eat and NOT to eat .,lost 4 pounds as well, I might as well keep doing this its working . let your food be your medicine is so true . oh almost for got no beer as well .

[@paulcallicoat7597]

You will have to do it for 90 days before you start to see some of the downside of this woe. I'm at 16 months and still learning and adjusting. Oxalate dumping will start coming out of where they are stored and it will make you think that meat /fats isn't all that great of a diet. Once you clear them to the point you are feeling better you will now find that the fats are more important than the meat because we need it more than the proteins which are turned into sugars by our liver. We are dependent on fat for almost every part of our bodies. Every neurological disorder is caused by the lack of saturated fats that our bodies uses to make our nervous systems and our brains. MS is caused by myelin degradation which is caused by not having the raw materials(saturated fat)that our bodies require to make them. You will require your gallbladder to get up to full power to put out the bile to digest all that fat. It won't be fast or easy if you have been low fat your whole life. Look for hints and advice on how to do it. I used acv to allow my digestion to be helped and it did work but now seldom even think about it. I consume 5 oz of raw beef suet or fat most morning. I also have 2 or 3 oz of butter in my morning coffee. I don't eat breakfast because b.sugar is elevated on most of us at waking. The explanation is that when the light hits our eyes in the morning our bodies send us a big shot of stored sugars so we can go out to hunt for meat and therefore we don't want to put more sugar into the blood. When the b.sugar drops low enough and we have no food then our bodies start bringing out our stored fats if you continue to fast. Breakfast is anytime that you come off the fast.Our ancestors must have had extended times of fast or even famine from the evidence of archalogical digs but with SAD the majority of Americans couldn't survive even a week of not eating. I know that headaches,alergies.cancers and a lot of other ailments were unheard of back before sugar and agriculture was adapted.

[@oldbiker9739]

@@paulcallicoat7597, I have found out the body makes its own cholesterol

[@oldbiker9739]

@@paulcallicoat7597 ,Your diet gives your liver the necessary ingredients to make cholesterol. In reality, 100% of your cholesterol comes from building blocks in your diet, whether from cholesterol itself (20%) or sugars and fats (80%). google liver makes its own cholesterol, today is day 8 and its great not to be hungry 24/7 on OMAD, you have some good tips thanks .

[@kathleenking47]

Medicine is a PRACTICE...not an exact science.

[@ernesthader1109]

You only eat fat and vegetables?

[@parapoliticos52]

If there was integrity in the awards she should have awarded a Pulitzer. just think of how many thousands and thousands of lives she saved with her research.

[@gribbler1695]

Ignoring The Big Fat Surprise which was an exercise in plagiarism.

[@sorrykay3450]

@@gribbler1695 Explain

[@4bennybear]

dont hold your breath for the government to do something about it

[@Magneticlaw]

Each person is responsible to "do something " about it....since we know about these oils, just stop using them.

[@karenf9137]

Nina, thank you for highlighting Mary Enig’s work. She never got the recognition she deserved.

[@michelemcneill3652]

I only use lard and even put it in my coffee and tea. It's so healthy.

[@toni4729]

Oh, I put pure cream in my coffee. Lard I cook with when I fry but for the most part these days I use an airfryer and they need no help at all. I never would have thought about lard in my coffee though.

[@amalston180]

I collect used cooking oil from restaurants. You should see what it does when left out for a while, it also acts like a paint solvent.

[@marjon888]

Don't eat any deep fried takeaway food.

[@kathleenking47]

That term, is more accurate, than "fast food" You take the food away😊

[@azsunburns]

One can think they are being healthy on a plant based diet, shop at a so called health food store & still walk away with a cart full of seed oils. It's almost impossible to find dressings or any prepared foods without them.

[@toni4729]

I don't eat any take away food at all. It's all junk.

[@MR-dm1gx]

I think the olive oil has been consumed for much longer time then you state. My family has over thousand trees of the Adriatic coast. And most of the trees are hundreds of years old and some over a thousand. I don't think all was produced and used for anointing the bodies athletes of ancient. I grew up consuming it. And no other oils. Even today don't use them. Thank you for education that makes sense.

[@wimtimmerman6730]

I agree. Already in antiquity olive oil was shipped around the Mediterranean basin in, for that period, vast amounts. Besides things like lard, tallow and suet it has always been used. There have never been that many athletes around to account for these vast amounts of olive oil.

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

Olive oil was used in lamps too.

[@hoboonwheels9289]

I had gallstones in my 30s, as did many friends, they got surgery, I tried the olive oil cure which worked and they never flared up again.

[@toni4729]

Going without fats are the total cause of gallstones. I know, that's how I lost mine.

[@hoboonwheels9289]

@toni4729 that's what I told my mom at the time I didn't know I was right then, just when it bothered me.

[@edlauren9434]

Very good presentation. Thank you!

[@scotthamlin9718]

Nina is great. I’ve read her book The Big Fat Surprise. Now I eat a high fat low carb diet but with animal fats instead of factory made “heart healthy oils”. The standard American diet is horrible and is only good for big food and big pharma, not good for our health.

[@christinakuczora4862]

Ummm Yes - she has much important info to tell us but her constant saying ummm is maddening. This woman needs a course in public speaking - she would sound more professional and polished.

[@LaneCodeRedCarnivore]

I value her research and all of her umms !

[@carolineknupffer2247]

I love Ninas speeches: so informative! Thanks so much !!!!!!

[@fractalbeans9513]

Thank you for posting this! It is so important to spread good science, especially good HEALTH science!

[@davidmurphy4676]

I have seen this subject mentioned but nothing as all encompassing and succinct.thank you

[@marianohaentjens8588]

Great stuff❤

[@jobrown8146]

Thank you. I've noticed that it is much easier to wash off natural fats. As another person commented, cooking pans would get a sticky residue that was very hard to clean off.

[@treelaka1]

Maybe update with olive and whale oil being used widely in oil lamps.Both were household necessities

[@carlhawkins6429]

Cakes made with flour and oil are mentioned many times in the bible. Exodus and Leviticus mention this kind of bread several times, and these books were written 3500 years ago.

[@hoboonwheels9289]

Grains were sprouted then because harvesting wasn't as efficient.

[@eddyvos2628]

Your point exactly ?

[@AlgorithmSlav]

Wonderful. Except I can’t find any source for the claim that people didn’t really cook with olive oil until the “1900s” or “19th century”. That’s contradictory to multiple sources which say romans each consumed 5 gallons of it annually.

[@9879SigmundS]

Great and interesting comment.

[@kallimatsuhashi6091]

There appears to be considerable research showing that consuming vegetable oils does not result in an increase in CRP/inflammation (see Nutrition Made Simple, Gil Carvalho, KZbin video posted 10-17-22), so some say they're not a problem. The decades-long trends appear to indicate that they are a very significant problem. How does one reconcile these research findings with the health effects described by Nina?

[@Mikey374]

Love that timer on the bottom of the screen

[@plintdillion286]

I miss chips fried in tallow. 😢

[@toni4729]

What's stopping you cooking them in tallow?

[@EricaNernie]

Just wondering about the length of time olive oil has been used for cooking. I've been to many museums (most recently in Sicily and the British Museum in London) where I've seen amphorae +++, and so many ancient sites and shipwrecks were stacked with amphorae. I can't imagine they were all used for wine or water. It would be interesting to research this a bit further. But I now avoid all seed oils - and rarely eat out as I know what restaurants cook with, and it ain't olive oil. I would be able to taste it. Sad to say, this was true in Sicily.

[@colinthomson5358]

I think she said there was evidence that olive oil was used just not for cooking. So finding an ancient jug of olive oil wouldn't really settle the debate. Was it used for anointing a monarch? Cleaning a weapon? For rubbing on naked soldiers so they looked more muscley during a fight? lol I know that suet turns up in ancient greek myth. Not sure oilive oil does - if they used it for cooking surely it would show up in a story at some point.

[@mystrength5640]

I heard a Doctor say that Olive Oil, has a lower cooking smoke level than we’ve been TOLD!

[@margomoore4527]

Olive oil is not from a seed, but a fruit: the olive. Dr. Gundry has been known to say that the biggest merit of the Mediterranean diet is get olive oil inside us. I don’t agree with every thing he says, but here he has a point. In the classic Greek mixed vegetable dish, briami, all those foods from the nightshade family, are rendered much less harmful by being drenched in olive oil. I’m referring to potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, zucchini and eggplant. Briami also contains other items, like onions, garlic, broad beans, and okra, some of which contain other plant toxins: the olive oil protects your gut against them as well.

[@w4rsh1p]

23:50 - zeroacrefarms

[@mr.c4376]

The battlefields must've been very slippery places, seeing the quantities of olive oil produced by the ancient Greeks

[@carmenalvarez2539]

🙏🙏🙏👍👍

[@kob8634]

18:00 this is misleading. The moment she said spontaneous combustion (most of which is never really spontaneous) I had to research it and I've concluded that this take is factually misleading. Fires in cooking linnens are a standard industry hazard irrespective of what type of grease or oil they come in contact with.

[@dreamup8431]

I only used bread like a sponge to soak up the hamburger grease and butter when I cook eggs. My GI does better with just some bread/carbs.

[@hoboonwheels9289]

When sprouted or fermented there's less toxins in grains, nuts, seeds, rice, legumes and vegetables.

[@Alexander-dt8sk]

So Ansel Keyes and his ilk thought it acceptable for their study subjects to die of cancer as long as they brought down those cholesterol values in the serum.

[@papneuro]

The olive oil reference by Ms.Teizholz is,unfortunately totally wrong,weakening her otherwise good presentation. Olive oil has been used in mediterranian countries since very ancient times as essential part of nutrition.Reference to minoan Crete,ancient Greece,New Testament etc.İt is essential to be accurate and not try to twist facts to make a point.

[@user-ho4rv6kg8u]

Evidence?

[@HookemFishing]

Phil Sokolof, campaigned to get McDonald to switch from the harmful beef tallow to veggy oil. Ironic that Phil died of a "heart failure" later in life.

[@nesanesa9547]

3 minutes...ref OO is a modern kitchen oil!!! .I asked seniors in several countries and they confirm with written family recipies handed down thro milenia the use of olive oil in their trafitional food!!

[@bloop000]

I guess no more 6 piece bhicken nuggets then :(

[@ambrosiofamily6902]

I cringe thinking that I poisoned my kids for years with those. 😢

[@ktom4536]

Coconut oil 🎉 When you do a timeline Alzheimer's came or was listed in 1903....about a similar time to mass produced seed oils. It will be interesting to see the explosion due to palm oils !

[@giuseppebonelli9512]

Not just a pretty face, Nina!

[@yoshimitsu3233]

All of the internet says that olive oil has been eaten for thousands of years. Where is she getting 19th century?

[@jellygorilla-3200]

You havent been through all of the internet so dont say that

[@yoshimitsu3233]

@jellygorilla-3200 Do you not know the difference between literal and figurative? 🙄

[@jellygorilla-3200]

@@yoshimitsu3233 All you have to do is look up how olive oil is made, they use heavy equipment to collect the olives off trees, because other wise it would take days to get enough olives to make enough oil, then they'd have to press all those olives by hand. No one was doing that thousands of years ago, they were eating animal fat. You did a few google searches and think you searched the whole internet lol.

[@user-ho4rv6kg8u]

where was the internet in the 19th century?

[@colinthomson5358]

Just a note for people. I am reading about called Libido Dominandi which deals with issues such as population control. I just read a bit which goes "Page closed her letter by proposing a meeting between Packard and Clarence Gamble, Heir to the Proctor & Gamble fortune and *a notorious popullation controller* , and Clarence Pickett, the head of the Friends Service Committee and the man who had brought birth control clinics to the benighted coal miners of West Virginia." It must be a coincidence that Proctor & Gamble got into the oil business that has done so much damage to humanity!

[@hoboonwheels9289]

Population controllers should not reproduce, that would be best.

[@js1mom]

Did the high powers want us to become machines by eating industrial machine oil?

[@karlwheatley1244]

Meanwhile, in the real world of long-term research on actual health outcomes, replacing solid fats (butter, lard, margarine) with seed oils clearly reduces rates of heart attacks.

[@givemethejob3293]

Epidemiological studies only.

[@timm2845]

It is the margarine that is made with oils that is the problem.

[@givemethejob3293]

@@timm2845 not just margarine, others are also too higher ratio of omega 6 to 3

[@MichaelSalo]

We’re all waiting for you to cite the evidence you refer to with such confidence.

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@MichaelSalo Thanks for the reply. "We’re all waiting for you to cite the evidence you refer to with such confidence." OK, let's start with some warm-up tosses. How about "Are seed oils inflammatory? That's a common propaganda talking point of low-carb influencers like Nina Teicholz (when they're not misleading about whether Ancel Keys "cherry-picked" either the 6 countries in his one presentation or the 7 countries in the larger study [he didn't]. Simplest way to do this is to look up "Nutrition Made Simple: Are Seed Oils Inflammatory?" and you can either watch the full video or look up the 44 experimental studies linked under "More" under the video. Spoiler alert: Over and over again, regardless of dose or level of linoleic acid, consuming the eight different types of seed oils reviewed did not increase inflammatory markers, and in a number of cases reduced them. More later.

[@jw77019]

If peanut oil is a problem, then peanut butter is a problem. I have been told all my life that peanut oil was monosaturated and healthy for frying because it doesn’t break down at normal cooking temperatures. I realize that canola and crisco oil are bad. More clarification is needed, or stop feeding children peanut butter. Why no mention of peanut butter but demonize peanut oil?

[@susiehulcher1494]

It is my understanding that you can make peanut butter simply by grinding peanuts, and that’s it. No processing or extraction.

[@PaulWMahon]

I don’t believe that olive oil was not used as a food as its simply a logical extension of olive consumption which was a popular food of Egyptians, Greeks, Romans & others in the Mediterranean. Ancient ships have been found with lots of wine & olive oil containers. Also advanced celestial navigation systems that are much more advanced than modern Swiss watches. Why would the ancients who had olives which grew everywhere not make & put olive oil on their bread & food the way they made fermented fish sauce? Just because someone claims there is no written literature on the subject of olive oil as a food does not mean there is no evidence & it was not used. It was available, it was tasty, it served a purpose, it was healthy as it is loaded with polyphenols & the ancients probably knew more than we do with knowledge passed down from pre-flood advanced civilizations such as Atlantis located where the Sahara desert is now which 10,000 years ago was green with lakes bigger than NA’s Great Lakes. We still don’t know how the pyramids & other megaliths were built & cannot duplicate such civil engineering. On other questions Nina seems brilliant but to say ancients didn’t consume olive oils is unusual & ludicrous. Cheers

[@blackbandit1290]

She's the long term, qualified researcher, you're just the YT commenter without much knowledge of history, physiology or chemistry. Let's just leave it at that.

[@pamsmithson6830]

"...pre-flood advanced civilizations such as Atlantis"?? OMG.

[@terrybaikie2181]

​@@blackbandit1290you sound vaccinated. What about the 1000 year old olive trees?

[@Ampe96]

I mean, I loved her book and I think she is an amazing researcher and I thank her for all her work, but it still sounds strange that olive oil was not consumed in the past. Maybe less than today, but I’m from Italy and we have always known that olive trees were cultivated since a long time ago

[@daryltownsley4562]

oil for fuel 1000 years ago? those little lamps? and just eating the olives a wonderful food. @@terrybaikie2181

[@sandymorrison1400]

IF you eat chocolate chip cookies, butter flavored Crisco makes the very best cookies. I don't make them anymore. They are the best however.

[@christinakuczora4862]

The lady has a lot of valuable information to contribute but the continual ugh’s and umm’s are maddening and take away from what she has to say. She needs a class in public speaking.

[@user-ho4rv6kg8u]

She has done numerous other talks on this subject. But this might not be the best one.

[@meathead365]

Thanks Capitalism

[@mariacallas9962]

Randomized controlled trials in humans completely debunked that chill for big meat. This is misinformation at is finest and any comments pretending she’s fighting for the truth never took a minute to read the papers she misrepresents. You just wanna hear someone telling you that you can do what you want and that you’re special for going against the tide. Pathetic and dangerous.

[@user-ho4rv6kg8u]

These randomised controlled trials that you speak of would be useful to know why they are only known to you and noone else.

[@mariacallas9962]

@@user-ho4rv6kg8u you’re kidding right? Here’s a PhD specializing in nutrition reviewing around 50 peer-reviewed papers which contradicts that « Journalist » (whom knows those papers by the way). Enjoy.

[@user-ho4rv6kg8u]

If you have the results of your randonmized controlled trials then pass them on to Nina Teicholz, Georgia Ede, Gary Taubes, Shawn Baker, etc. Its the stuff that a lot of people would like to see.

[@mariacallas9962]

@@user-ho4rv6kg8u they all know those papers,the question is why they ignore them. You did not read them did you?

[@toni4729]

Sorry little miss vegan. You're wrong. We are made of meat and it's not going to kill us. Remember that when you were born your grandparents ate meat and fish, and if they hadn't, you wouldn't have been born.

[@thomasgreenfoto2059]

So much misinformation. This person presents information in a dishonest mannor.