The History of Taiwan's Mysterious "Position" Camouflage Helmet Cover

[@hoffmannotto7227]

As a Taiwanese and a old school ROC army equipment collector It’s happy to see my country’s camouflage in a foreign youtube video This camouflage cover have also given a name called garrison camouflage due to it’s design for outer island environments and use by the army outer island unit until mid 90s But there’s also couple photo of military police using this three color camouflage cover until early 2000s and also this camouflage cover was never officially issued by army because it’s made by civil company

[@SSGTStryker]

Only Uniform History could make a 16:29 minute long video about a helmet cover…and make it really interesting.

[@gweather3847]

For people that wanna collect this helmet cover in Taiwan, it is hard to find this helmet cover in brick-and mortar military surplus stores or flea markets now, because lots of military surplus about ROCA's "grass green uniform"(草綠服) on the market were bought by crazy collectors in 2000s(Their method of purchasing basically was buying every military surplus things they can see in stores at that time.), so most of "Position" helmet cover are sold by collectors at online C2C websites now, such as 露天(Ruten) or 蝦皮(Shopee), the common price is around NT$100 to NT$250 depending on helmet cover's condition or production year. BTW, if you are lucky, you may still can find it in some old military surplus shops or big flea markets and its price will be much cheaper.

[@hoffmannotto7227]

上次看到有一個60塊的被買走 超可惜

[@syang1116]

luckily i got one of this

[@gweather3847]

​​@@hoffmannotto7227我前幾年在台中某跳蚤市場也有遇到賣60元的，那個時候還不識貨就沒買，現在想起來也頗可惜的

[@piscinaiv7937]

I love the big geometric patterns. Reminds me of Swedish M90.

[@jfu5222]

This cover does a great job of breaking up the outline of the helmet, better than the Mitchell pattern in use during the same period.

[@dashikashi4734]

I kinda see why they went for it, it's almost like the Israeli helmet cover or dazzle camo working to disrupt the head shape over concealment

[@rimanahbvee]

Like ship camo too, fucked up shapes

[@Tadicuslegion78]

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[@thesuit4820]

Or they'll blend in so well we'll never know, because, something something camouflage. It was funnier in my head.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

@@thesuit4820everyone thinks they’re funnier in their head

[@mrkitty1997]

​@@thesuit4820no no, it was quite chuckle inducing. Thank you 😅

[@LeeviHokka126]

😂😂😂 Good one!

[@greyfells2829]

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[@TheClandestineCamper]

Are you still going to make a Swiss Hemet Cover video? I think that it would be really informative and cool!

[@boffinboy100]

My friend tried to do that - there's more variants than you think and he's almost permanently postponed the update video

[@blackjack5908]

The real China 🇹🇼

[@Danny344S]

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[@IvanIvanoff-d4p]

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[@Danny344S]

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[@blackjack5908]

@@Danny344S The Chinese International Police are now at my door, help

[@Danny344S]

@@blackjack5908 oh noes you have to talk to Winnie the Pooh now

[@Drownedinblood]

Just look at it this way, if you were invading an island, you are more likely looking up from a beach. What colors do you see? Green for foliage, khaki/white for rock and maybe clouds, and blue for the sky...if you are a defender you are likely dug in and looking downward, most likely thing to be seen would be your helmet.

[@ReviveHF]

The main reason to use this helmet cover is for identification purposes. During Cold War, many Asian countries that opposes Soviet Union adopted US M1 Steel Helmet and OG107 combat uniform. You can just compare a 1980s fully equipped Malaysian soldier with the 1980s fully equipped Republic of China soldier, you will notice there's little differences between the two. It's just the same American olive green combat uniform and the M1 Steel Helmet. So, the helmet cover is the best item to create seperate country identify at that time. But now, things are easier because now every countries uses different camo pattern and colours.

[@immikeurnot]

Half the countries today are using Multicam or a close copy...

[@robertdonnell8114]

Thank you sir, this was actually interesting. I think that the made from scrap cloth and then standardizing that is the most likely origin. It is not too bad as the pattern does kinda break up the "helmet" shape.

[@birdmt2491]

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[@izzyoaksofficial]

Hey, Uniform History, I love your videos and was wondering if you could make a video on Russian digital patterns, like ratnik, digital flora, and EMR.

[@johnwalton5576]

Wow! Never knew anything about these, thanks!

[@JamesMartin-bu8yu]

The green and tan on the helmet seems okay. The blue though? Yikes. I could spot that blue section from 500 yards. Turn it into a dull brown and it's basically a multicam colored "dazzle" helmet.

[@leondillon8723]

0:58) The PRC ? When I was an US Army infatry man, I often had to carry the Portable Radio Communications (PRC). All radio models were called "pricks".

[@dominuslogik484]

Peoples Republic of China (PRC)

[@johnsamu]

The (NOT SO) Portable.....😉

[@gunterstraus606]

Very cool. It is interesting how common helmets are the first items to be camouflaged

[@robertricketts5467]

The ROC's 'Military Police' is analogous to the Gendarmerie Nationale(Fr), Imperial Japan's Kempeitai or Italy's Carabinieri.All are, or were, seperate branches of their respective Nation's Armed Forces with very specific and often specialized roles within national defence such as internal security,executive and VIP protection,counter-espionage/counter-subversion and the security of sensistive Government sites

[@robbabcock_]

Really fascinating stuff!

[@_lonewolf_7917]

I’m a fan of that transition at 0:25 and idk why 👌

[@froginthewaves8450]

Awesome Video!

[@VicFromFallout]

Great video

[@1joshjosh1]

I think from a distance it really works because it doesn't look like a helmet then

[@chinesemassproduction]

2:20 "...saw a wave of reforms" Lol nice

[@SashaTheDog]

Imagine an entire uniform made in such a style. It could work even if the idea is silly.

[@Tax_Collector01]

Helmets 🪖 keep my head warm and sturdy.

[@avus-kw2f213]

5:32 actually it’s the juche calendar

[@ScoutSniper3124]

As a retired U.S. Army Sniper, and an aficionado of camouflage in general, I'd say that most camouflage tends to blend together to the eye at distance. The best camo for hiding at 20 feet from detection might just look like one color and shaped like a human at 2,000 feet. The larger and more distinct the color differences, the better it MAY work at distance, even though it's pure crap up close. My 2 cents. SSG. U.S. Army (Medically Retired) Infantry / Sniper / SOF Intel (SOT-A), multiple tours

[@r7calvin]

Are there any patterns that attempt to target multiple distances? I'm imagining filling in the big shapes in this Taiwanese pattern with different colored digital camo.

[@user-iz2kk2fw4g]

I’ve been trying to find one of these helmet covers for the longest time.

[@bryanschuler9097]

Kinmen is the Wade-Giles transliteration of the name 金門 of the offshore island adjacent to Xiamen City. In the Wade -Giles system 'K' has the same phonetic value as 'J' has in typical English speech. Thus Kin men is pronounced like Jin-mun . The widely used Pinyin transliteration renders the characters 金門 as Jin Men. The actual lexical translation of 金 is "gold" or "metal" and 門 translates as "gate". you will be more correct in future to investigate the several variances of transliteration of Chinese place names from the phonetic values of an unrelated language, Hint: Xiamen above has a slightly tricky rendering for a native English speaker. Look it up.

[@bunnystrasse]

Amoy

[@최승용-t7f]

fascinating story about so unique pattern !

[@poromafia]

Do you have plans on covering the Finnish M62 and 79 camouflage patterns?

[@BigusShrimpus]

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[@SkaMaRtiSt1991]

10:27 Owe, MY EYES!!!

[@kleuafflatus]

Helmet in the thumbnail: possibly someone who missed idaho?

[@Cabula1977]

Wanna talk about bizarre helmet covers? During the 80s, the mexican army introduce new helmet cover for its m1 helmets (also for their m80s and PASGT helmers, but those would came later). They used a woodland type camo that used a lot of brown, tan and some green. They uses multiple camouflage pattern types through the 80s and 90s (some remind me of the yugoslavian oakleaf and the british DPM).

[@FoxtrotFleet]

What's bizarre about a woodland helmet cover? Is it because a desert pattern would be more sensible given the terrain?

[@Cabula1977]

@@FoxtrotFleet I said woodland type for its colors, dark brown (or some times a redish brown was uses instead)olive Green, and kahki if i remember correctly. Whats weird are the multiple patterns that shared its colors. Basically, there wasnt a single pattern(3-4), nor a standardized one. The construcción of the covers also vary, some using only 2 pieces AND others 3.

[@FoxtrotFleet]

@@Cabula1977 Two piece helmet cover? Lmao why? Theyre such a simple a pattern to make. That's pretty interesting, yeah.

[@Willy_Tepes]

You just breezed over the most likely explanation. These are scraps from the factory floor.

[@vortagnachricht5547]

The German Reich wasn't formed in 1933. "Deutsches Reich" was the official name of Germany from 1871 to 1945.

[@janlippert4639]

Nope before WWI it was the KaiserReich, after WWI it was called Weimarer Republik. And after that just called Deutsches Reich or 3. Reich bei the nationalists.

[@vortagnachricht5547]

@@janlippert4639 the Weimarer Republic is a name given to the first republic existing within the Deutsche Reich. It describes the form of government and doesn't replace the country name. The official name of the country from its formation in 1871 until 1945 was Deutsches Reich.

[@herosstratos]

​​​@@janlippert4639Wrong. Just have a look at the stamps of that era.

[@Melty-K]

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[@Zacharoni4085]

😎

[@KRN762]

Why the blotting out of the Taiwan flag?

[@FirstDagger]

Probably because YT-kun is capricious sometimes.

[@benniotto]

Kinda weird that KZbin would go after the flag, as it is the flag of the “Republic of China,” and has no direct relation to Taiwan beyond that.

[@ballsss6969]

Ehh probably coincidence

[@pepebeezon772]

​@@benniottoit's the flag of Taiwan currently

[@pepebeezon772]

I mean it's a pretty reasonable place to put the text

[@seka1986]

The khaki looks too bright for camo.

[@MrInkblots]

"koo-min-tang" 哈哈 holy fuck that sounded fucked up. Good video though. Its pronounced guo-min-dang btw.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Chiangs son spent a huge part of his life as a Hostag... sorry i meant "Exchange Student" in Stalins Russia.

[@sorewahimitsudesu]

It just looks like someone stretched their underpants over their helmet.

[@easygroove]

Next: a Video about that highly effective Face Camo at 13:41

[@mattsweeting4358]

doin it for the trees!

[@Adiscretefirm]

12:19 false perspective or the most adorable mini-soldier ever?

[@coomman-e4j]

sort of dazzle camoie

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

I think it looks pretty good, and at a distance would do a decent job of breaking up the outline of a helmet.

[@Tonkatsu672]

Taiwan numbah one!

[@yutakago1736]

The purpose of Camouflage Helmet is to "break the shape" of the helmet.

[@GaMeZaHoY]

yet to see a camo consisting of pink white and purple with anime waifu splattered all over

[@Tunkkis]

That just means it's working well.

[@TeethToothman]

🤖❌🤖

[@stevebutters306]

Yo the one taiwanese soldier in the intro was CAKED up for no reason, lookit that thing. Edit: nevermind, it looks like a satchel bag :(

[@JamesChenisKing]

love how you soften it to 3rd reich instead of Nazis and president instead of dictator/emperor

[@joshhanklon]

Cringe

[@onkelmicke9670]

Weird

[@Thundrbolt-tj4qk]

I agree, the rogue eastern province of Taiwan has an interesting design pattern. Better than the blue camo that some units in the glorious PRC uses

[@forreal723bruh]

is this satire

[@Thundrbolt-tj4qk]

@@forreal723bruh Yes (-10000 social credits)

[@filmtajm35]

For fuck sake, come to the point...

[@BlackOut321123]

So I watched this drunk, and realised that this is just an incredibly boring subject. A broke military threw together some rustic-ass camo from garbage, and kept it because they've not actually been in a real war for 60 years. In any sort of fight this superstitious rubbish would last about three minutes before someone made it, you know, fucking green. There, spend 15 minutes of your life on something else

[@JamesMartin-bu8yu]

The green and tan on the helmet seems okay. The blue though? Yikes. I could spot that bright blue section from 500 yards. Turn it into a dull brown and it's basically a multicam colored "dazzle camo" helmet.

[@vijaykumar-w3b6g]

😀useless, taiwan is no match for china

[@dominuslogik484]

alone? yes, trick is that Taiwan has more friends than china does. kind of works out that way when you aren't hostile and violent towards all your neighbors like the PRC is.

[@davidkermes376]

don't bet money on that.

[@vijaykumar-w3b6g]

@@davidkermes376 😏oh yeah,china is a nuclear power and has unsc permanent seat,I bet my money on that,china is only afraid of india usa russia uk france and a little pakistan and isreal and north korea because they are nuclear powers,taiwan is not a nuclear power

[@joshhanklon]

China could literally never invade Taiwan

[@armybaka7804]

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