*The Hobbit: An unexpected journey* Was GREATER than we expected !!

And of course Gollum is there to steal the show !!
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The Hobbit: An unexpected journey (2012) full movie REACTION, REVIEW AND DISCUSSION !!
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[@angel-astanfield7939]

The Hobbit is more whimsical than LOTR because it was written for children and adolescents. LOTR was written for adults. I think some people forget this when they are comparing the two stories and these movies. The tones are very different. I enjoyed this series regardless of others say. and I’m an avid Hobbit/LOTR fan, books and movies. ❤

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

Yes that is true BUT the Hobbit should never have been 3 films (kids story or not)

[@angel-astanfield7939]

@@Mantis_Toboggan_MD. I also found that curious. It could have been done beautifully as just 2 movies. 💕

[@wadumin]

I love it, i can't wait for the rest ❤

[@Rodshark75]

@@Mantis_Toboggan_MD. And certainly not rated "R" lol

[@kristianberg4264]

@@angel-astanfield7939-Cutting the material down to two movies instead of three, makes no sense, they aren’t going to make 6hr movies.Plus, who complains about getting MORE LOTR’s movies? Not me, that’s for sure.😊

[@jeffreyb.abellajr.306]

The old dwarf with the white hair is Balin the one Gimli cried on in Moria when he saw the grave and the skeleton with a book in its hand in the side of Balin's grave is Ori the youngest dwarf in the pack.

[@Darthorias]

That scene in Moria when Gandalf reads that book always gives me chills, and the worst part is when you first realize it was these dwarves, who died there.

[@wadumin]

Omggg whaattt

[@jeffreyb.abellajr.306]

@@wadumin Yes and the trolls that got turned into stones is the same trolls in fellowship of the ring where they stop and lay frodo in the ground after frodo got stabbed in weathertop and sam saying to frodo "Look frodo it's Mr. Bibo's trolls".

[@friedrichdergunstige1252]

Balin was the best of the dwarves :( Strong and wise.

[@otaku-sempai2197]

@@Darthorias Well, three of them were Thorin's companions. Oin was killed by the Watcher in the Water; Balin was slain by an Orc arrow; and Ori was the one keeping the record of the colony. The other companions who survived the Battle of Five Armies continued to live in Erebor and were still alive when Sauron's forces laid siege to Erebor during the War of the Ring.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

52:30 Golum did not just drop the Ring...The Ring decided to leave him. The ring wanted to return to its creator, but Golum refused and kept it hidden deep in the mountain. When the ring sensed someone else who might be manipulated by it, the ring jumped at the chance and fell from the pocket.

[@fox_trot0214]

One Thing about the Eagles, everybody ask why they don't use them to go everywhere The Eagles don't allow it, they are very intelligent and noble creatures, the Eagle Lord can even speak in common tongue. They only transports the dwarfs (and Gandalf in Lotr) to return a favor because Gandalf help the Eagle Lord in the past.

[@cp368productions2]

Saruman was not corrupted by Sauron yet, Sauron was a shadow. Saruman was just pompous and thought he was the only one that mattered of the order.

[@HaldorZX]

Well sort of, he's not corrupted by Sauron yet but he is scheming for his own advantage. He knows what's happening in Dol Guldor but is intentionally misleading the council because he thinks the Necromancer will lead him to the One Ring since Dol Guldor is right next to the Gladden Fields where the ring was lost. So he isn't fully evil yet but he has started down the path of putting his own desires before the mission.

[@nathanielreik6617]

He did want to find the Ring at this time though and was trying to find it on his own in secret.

[@lgkf1126]

Saruman was not working for Sauron at this time yet. But hr certainly had his own agenda already. He was looking for the One Ring and didn't want the other counsil members to interfere.

[@wadumin]

Yesss, thanks for clarifying ❤

[@RetroRobotRadio]

53:25 sting stopped glowing because the goblin was dead.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

The mark on Bilbo's door actually means "Wealth". This was changed from the book where he put three symbols that said "Burgler", "Danger" and "Reward", which was meant to advertise that Bilbo was a thief for hire.

[@wadumin]

Ooo thanks for letting us know ❤

[@nathanielreik6617]

It's actually the Sindarin (one of the elven languages) rune "G". Gandalf uses it a few times in the Fellowship of the Ring in the book.

[@Christobanistan]

Why in the world would the other hobbits be OK with, and even favor, a professional thief in their midst?

[@Big_Tex]

There was a very subtle reference in the movie Fellowship of the Ring. After Bilbo finally left Bag End, Gandalf is staring in thought at the fireplace and mumbles “Riddles in the Dark…” And now you know what he was thinking about.

[@fox_trot0214]

My favorite part of the book

[@Big_Tex]

@@fox_trot0214 yeah I was thinking, in all of English literature that has to be one of those most iconic single scenes from a book. Not many classic books have a single chapter that you think, yeah THAT chapter is something I’ll never forget.

[@preachtheword1689]

The witchking was the leader of the nazguls in the Lord of the rings, the one Eowyn killed.

[@wadumin]

Oooooh i see, thanks for clarifying ❤

[@divyanshsahai]

@@wadumin please react to Oppenheimer. I just watched it yesterday. One of the best movies of 2023. It won like 3 oscars.

[@jackkilman8726]

5:02 Dragons' lust for gold is well established in ancient folklore and legends. They were often seen as symbols of greed and hubris. There was no particular reason for it. It was just their nature. They were a cautionary warning against wanting more wealth than you need.

[@kobarsos82]

Its in many senses like Scrooge and his money bin, all they want is as much treasure and gold as they can have, and be able to bathe and sleep in it. No other reason. They covet gold and treasure like no other creature. Its also the perfect way to "lure in" adventurers that want treasure, fame and glory, so they can have "food" knock at their door. Who wouldn't want food come willingly at their door?

[@misterno-ice-guy8082]

I learned to read with The Hobbit. My father read it to me several times as I learned. Doing different voices for different characters and reading a few chapters at a time each night before I fell asleep. The chapter "Out of the Frying Pan" immediately precedes the chapter "and Into the Fire". My first time hearing this story, my father stopped for the night in between these chapters. Leaving the party stranded in the last tree, (just before Gandalf begins throwing flaming pinecones), and leaving me with a very traumatic cliff hanger

[@imajinallthepurple]

Dad made a pretty epic choice of material and *chef's kiss* choice doing voices as well. 😄👍

[@midtwilightblue]

The trolls are the ones Bilbo was telling the story of to the children in The Lord of The Ring at his birthday party! Also Sam acknowledges them as Bilbo’s trolls after Frodo was stabbed on Weathertop. They lay him there next to the stones when Aragorn tries to heal him with the weed before Arwen appears to them.

[@wadumin]

Omg yessss, love that ❤

[@divyanshsahai]

@@wadumin please react to Oppenheimer. I just watched it yesterday. One of the best movies of 2023. It won like 3 oscars.

[@frederikbrochpedersen1510]

The tomb Gimli is crying over in Moria, in the fellowship of the ring, is Barlin's grave

[@cp368productions2]

Balin, there's no r

[@primal1233]

Cate Blanchett looks just as beautiful in this movie as she did in the Lord of the Rings trilogy

[@wadumin]

She's absolutely magical

[@divyanshsahai]

@@wadumin please react to Oppenheimer. I just watched it yesterday. One of the best movies of 2023. It won like 3 oscars.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

42:40 - Here it is revealed the real reason Gandalf is helping the dwarves. He wants Smaug taken down so he cannot be an ally of Sauron in the future, plus having a large powerful Dwarf kingdom on their side would be handy in the future.

[@nathanielreik6617]

The line Bilbo says after the back story of "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" is the very first line of the book and is also the first line Tolkien ever wrote about this whole world. He said that he was marking school certificate papers as part of his job as a professor at Oxford and came across a blank piece of paper and just randomly wrote that sentence on it.

[@elegrin5170]

52:57 That's how he lose the ring? No guys, That's how the ring decide to abonden Gollum.. Because ring feels there is a way to get out there and try to go Sauron.. The way is Bilbo's pocket.. You must know this.. The ring is so powerfull and ring decide all of that..

[@wadumin]

Oh wow

[@divyanshsahai]

@@wadumin please react to Oppenheimer. I just watched it yesterday. One of the best movies of 2023. It won like 3 oscars.

[@angel-astanfield7939]

The spiders of Mirkwood are spawns of Ungoliant, a large spider-like creature that came from the Undying Lands to Middle Earth with Morgoth, Sauron and the Balrog’s master. Shelob is the last of Ungoliant’s daughters we come across in the LOTR. These spiders in Mirkwood are her “sisters”. ❤

[@Ciffer-1998]

"and the Balrog’s master" hold on i thought thats Morgoth

[@angel-astanfield7939]

@@Ciffer-1998 yeppers! Morgoth was the master of Sauron and the Balrog. You are right. That’s why I wrote it above, “… Morgoth, Sauron and the Balrog’s master.” I guess could have written it in a better, more grammatical way. 👍🏼

[@HaldorZX]

Actually they're Shelob's Spawn, not Ungoliants, Shelob Birthed them on her way to Mordor.

[@chronolynx360]

Rest in peace Ian Holmes. ✝️

[@wadumin]

RIP legend 💔

[@divyanshsahai]

@@wadumin please react to Oppenheimer. I just watched it yesterday. One of the best movies of 2023. It won like 3 oscars.

[@angel-astanfield7939]

The Witch King of Angmar is the Nazgûl that Eowyn kills at the end of LOTR ROTK. The one who stabbed Frodo. ❤

[@wadumin]

Oooooh i see

[@divyanshsahai]

@@wadumin please react to Oppenheimer. I just watched it yesterday. One of the best movies of 2023. It won like 3 oscars.

[@RetroRobotRadio]

It's actually a lot of singing in the books for The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. Very little of it made it into the movies.

[@samjohnson7869]

Thank God.

[@wadumin]

Loved the singing parts

[@mikennem9077]

IN LOTR "Weathertop" is the place where Frodo was stabbed by the Witch King. that location is where the Trolls were turned to stone. there is a scene in Fellowship where Sam is trying to talk to Frodo while he's in and out of consciousness and Sam says "Look Frodo, its Mr. Bilbo's trolls"

[@wadumin]

Oh yessss, i love it ❤

[@otaku-sempai2197]

It was a while after Aragorn led the hobbits away from Weathertop that they encountered the "stoned" trolls. Thorin and company encountered the trolls after crossing a river.

[@divyanshsahai]

@@wadumin please react to Oppenheimer. I just watched it yesterday. One of the best movies of 2023. It won like 3 oscars.

[@jenniferatterton1587]

The troll sculptures have been kept at the WETA workshop in New Zealand and you can take photos with them. Some of the orcs and other props and things are there as well. You can also arrange a studio tour. The Hobbiton movie set is set up and you can book a guided tour for that as well. It is so worth going there for a holiday. They actually made the castles for real, they are not all green screen scenes. The green screen that they did use was the largest in the world apparently.

[@Aegi97]

The issues that most people seem to have about the hobbit movies stems mostly the book being a small(ish) children’s book while they made this into three long movies. The writers put a decent amount of extra stuff that wasn’t in the book (although some was in the appendices of LOTR). The other issue is that because the production was kind of a horror show, they couldn’t spend the necessary time on certain things. A lot of things being cgi made it easier to make but it definitely made things (like the orcs) look worse. From a movie perspective, I enjoyed the series. From an adaptation perspective however, I enjoy it less. Although adaptation wise, this movie is definitely the best out of the three

[@diamondlil7819]

PLEASE, PLEASE make sure you watch the extended version of the third film - the theatrical version will do for the second one. Why? Because Peter Jackson was asked to take over these films when the original director backed out. He wasn't given enough time to complete the third film and it sometimes doesn't make sense. The extended edition does a proper job of telling the story because PJ had enough time after the theatrical version came out to finish it properly. People who only saw the theatrical version think it is the weakest of the three because of its rushed nature. BTW, all the songs are in the book - I also love Thorin's song - and these add to the child-like nature of the story. The book gets more serious towards the end, almost as if Tolkien had decided to create a bridge in the shifting tone between this children's book and the adult LotR which must have been already forming in his head. Lovely reaction to this film - thank you very much.

[@purded369]

Bilbo is like a mix of Sam and Frodo

[@wadumin]

Yessss

[@Miah-John]

"It's like a nipple"🤣🤣

[@elegrin5170]

20:38 you remembered that ancient Dwarf kingdom of Moria? Moria mines was Gandalf's place that he fell down with Balrog.. Fellowship of the Ring.. That was that mine city :D

[@angelalam5949]

The songs are one of my favourite things in both the lotr and the hobbit books, just how much history and worldbuilding we learn though them. I just reread the hobbit audiobook after watching your reaction to lotr made me miss the universe.

[@elegrin5170]

44:44 Made for the Witch King of Angmar and buried with him.. Guys you know who the witch king of Angmar is.. He is the leader of Nazgul's.. He is the Nazgul who killed by Eowyn..( I'm no man scene at return of the king ) :)))

[@cp368productions2]

Dol Goldur is on the Misty Mountains near Lothlorian. The fortress was destroyed by Galadrial after the War of the Ring. The the war an army of orcs from Dol Guldor attacked Lothlorian. Azog actually was killed at the battle they showed, it was actually Bolg who was the main orc in these events.

[@davidemarzoli4815]

Dol Guldur is in southern Mirkwood, not the Misty Mountains.

[@cp368productions2]

@@davidemarzoli4815 it's on the mountains, on the edge of Mirkwood.

[@HaldorZX]

@@cp368productions2 It's on a hill, hence its name. The Misty Mountains are miles away.

[@shukei26]

32:50 "Spawn of Ungoliant". Ungoliant is a massive spider that was nicknamed "the ever-hungry". She quite literally swallowed light and vomited Darkness even drinking the light from the two trees of the Valar thus bringing the world into a dark age once more. It is said the tried to travel across the Great Eastern Desert but with nothing else to eat she consumed herself. Shelob is her last great daughter.

[@elegrin5170]

No spoiler I promise because any film will not talk about what I must inform you, but you need to know this detail.... At 9:55 dworf (white beard and hair) is Balin.. You cant remember his name but you remember fellowship of the ring film.. Our crew was at mines of moria remember? There was a grave stone at there... Gimli mourned for that grave.. Pippin accidentally dropped a skeleton at well.. Remember.? That grave stone belongs to Balin.Gandalf read that stone grave's name.. "Here lies Balin... Son of Fundin.." That's what he said at there..That dworf.. Also there was a skeleton to at that room.. He wrote something at a book.. Gandalf read it " They take the bridge, we shutted the door. But we cannot hold it much longer.. They are coming..." That skeleton dworf was the youngest dworf of this dworfs crew..( the dworf at 12:14...That burping dworf). These are not spoilers because you will never see anything about that info.. But these are great details :D

[@elegrin5170]

Guys you remember 28:36 Three Trolls story from Fellowship of the Rings? Bilbo have told this story to children at his birthday at fellowship of the rings.. :)) So good detail..

[@wadumin]

I loved that whole parttt

[@otaku-sempai2197]

If you'll recall, the Witch-king of Angmar was the Nazgul who stabbed Frodo on Weathertop. And the three trolls were the same ones from the story that Bilbo was telling the hobbit children at his birthday party. One of Peter Jackson's more interesting changes involved Gandalf. Gandalf in the original book never intended to go all the way to Erebor with the company; he only meant to guide them safely across the Misty Mountains (after all, he had another appointment to keep with the White Council). That's why Bilbo was the 14th member of the company and not the 15th.

[@brettpeacock9116]

In Tolkien a Game of Riddles is considered as very sacred, a game that even evil creatures are hesitant to cheat at. And it is a game of winner takes all, meaning if the terms are agreed on, then the loser will fulfill his part. It is a measure of the hold of the One Ring on Gollum that he tries to cheat Bilbo, justifying it by using the Question "What have I got in my pocket?" (Which is not technically a riddle) as a justification to cheat. But Bilbo HAD agreed to the 3 guesses qualifier, which anulled the difference. And Gollum sneaked in a fourth guess too!)

[@gregorypeck3023]

Fun fact, the Goblin king is the father of that tiny goblin zipplining…

[@lgkf1126]

The Witch kingbof Angmar was the Lord of the Nazgûl.. the one who was killed by Eowyn of Rohan. As for the eagles, they helped because Gandalf once helped Gwahir, Lord of the giant eagles. There is no way they'd accept being a Taxi service.

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

19:35 "Home is behind, the world ahead" That's the opening line from the Song Pippin sings to Lord Denethor in Return of the King

[@wadumin]

Woww just recalled it, beautiful ❤

[@ercsey-ravaszferenc6747]

Just a few more things here: Tolkien being a linguist first created the languages. mainly Sindarin and Quenya, the two Elvish languages. Then he imagined the people who would speak those languages, their aspect, world, culture, life and finally he came up with the stories. Speaking of languages: Dwarves are in many respects an allegory for the Jews - chased out of their homeland, wandering among other people - and even what little we have canonically of their language, Khuzdul, has a Semitic structure much like Hebrew, Arabic, Syriac etc. with that typical tri-consonantal root. You will hear a lot of Black Speech from Orcs, but that is entirely a movie thing and not canonical. But it sounds really good, harsh, unpleasant, credible. There is an entire new profession now in the film industry, that of the conlangist, a linguist who can create and develop imaginary languages (Klingon, Dothraki etc) According to canon, Sauron had devised the Black Speech but there are only two complete phrases plus a few words in canon (the inscription of the One Ring, a curse by an angry Orc in LOTR: "Ugluk u bagronk sha pushdug Saruman-glob bubhosh skai!", plus ghash = fire, snaga = slave and stuff like that. The idea is that Orcs are simply not intelligent enough to learn it, instead they speak a debased form of the Common Speech interspersing words from the Black Speech here and there.

[@peloquin5652]

Love you Guys, and don't let anyone tell you the films are rubbish, they're certainly not as epic and deep as Lord of the Rings but still absolutely worth seeing!

[@wadumin]

Yesss absolutely, thanks for watching ❤

[@jsonkody]

Gollum saved Frodo several times AND wihout him the ring would not fall into lava at the end of their path .. so by showing mercy Bilbo just saved the Middle Earth .. also by taking the ring ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@wadumin]

Yupppp

[@patrickwoodlands4086]

Gandalf's words of wisdom to Bilbo was "True courage is not knowing when to take a life, but when to spare one." This ties to the lines in Fellowship of the Ring in Gandalf's monologue to Frodo in Moria saying "It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Do not be so eager to deal out death and judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play yet for good or ill before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many."

[@jsonkody]

10:35 .. the dwarfs ate everything because Bilbo will go for a long journey that will take maybe a year or more .. they go to his door because Gandals marked them by the symbol

[@doeshumorbelonginmusic5799]

26:50...It's the troll story Bilbo told the little kids on his birthday party 60 years later in the fellowship.

[@elegrin5170]

53:29 The sword's light turned off because that orc is dead.. So if there is not an alive orc nearby, the sword cannot glow :D

[@fox_trot0214]

When i was a kid i first read The Hobbit (since it's smaller and originaly written for youger readers than LOTR) Latter i read Lotr and i felt in love with this story and this univers But i never forgot The Hobbit and thoses first words i read : "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it a was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort." They always send chills down my spine, even more with the Shire music

[@di3486]

The Ring decided to leave Gollum. Gollum did not lose it, Bilbo did not Steal it. Bilbo just found it because the Ring wanted it. The ring was looking for someone to get it out of the cave toward the Mirkwood (forest).

[@elegrin5170]

59:17 Guys this move is not miracle move.. The ring wants Bilbo to survive and getting away with him.. The ring always try to get back to his master remember.. The ring want to be put in his finger itself..

[@doeshumorbelonginmusic5799]

52: 52..."Bilbo knows the ring." Excuse me?! 😂

[@fuyumi27]

I think they sometimes forgot that this happened before LOTR 😅

[@Anetkari]

@@fuyumi27yess exactly

[@MrSauvraign]

Morgoth (Sauron's master) did create the dragons to fight the eagles sent by his brother, the Vala Manwë (kind of St-Michel in the Tolkien's universe) during the first age. Smaug is the last of the big dragons in Middle Earth and he was the smallest among them. Morgoth is the greatest Evil being in Tolkien's universe, he is the Lucifer in the Silmarillion and the Lord of the Rings, he corrupted Sauron before Arda (Earth) was created like the Balrogs (some Maïar perverted). After he got defeated by the Valar (the others gods or Archangels) they decided to cut the hands and feet of Morgoth and push him through the Night Gate into the void, banished forever. He cannot die like Sauron because they are all immortal being but can be neutralized for a certain time. You have many ages : - Valarin age when the Ainur (Valar and Maïar) came on Arda just after its creation. - Trees age - First age of the Sun (around 600 years and ended when Morgoth has been defeated) - Second age of the Sun (around 3441 years, Sauron rules now on the Morgoth's armies in secret at the beginning and its ended to the battle of the last alliance when Isildur cut off the Sauron's fingers). - Third age of the Sun ( 3021 years. The war of the ring is in 3019 and the Hobbit takes place 70 years ago and its ended when Sauron is defeated and the ring destroyed) - Fourth age of the Sun (Aragorn makes the peace with the Rhûn (Eastern people) and the Hârad (Southern people). Tolkien explained it takes place long time ago in a alternative world. So Jesus Christ is born at the Seven age of the Sun for him. Another thing, you heard about Ungoliant in the movie. She was the first giant spider on Arda, she gave birth to Shelob (in the Return of the King) and Shelob gave birth to the spiders living the Mirkwood forest. She was living in the immortal lands and became temporary the partner of Morgoth. She became even more powerful than him after she drained the two trees.

[@chriswerth918]

One of the Dwarfs, the old one, with the white hair, is called Balin. You know, that was the second Dwarf, who arrived at Bilbo's door. The one who headbutted his brother, for greetings. Do you remember the name Balon, from the first Lord of the Rings movie? Just remember why Gimli suggested that the fellowship should go under the mountain. Through the mines of Moria. He told Gandalf that his cousin Balin would greatly welcome them. And later, in Moria the fellowship arrives at a tomb. Shortly before the orcs attack. The grave of the last lord of Moria. That was Balin's tomb. The same Balin's who befriends Bilbo in the Hobbit trilogy 😉

[@wadumin]

Oooohhh my goodness

[@uhh345]

23:41 the thing is that the wizards aren't allowed to show their full power unless they're not seen by anyone. Gandalf the white lost to the witch king because he couldn't fight with full power but when he fought the Balrog he was an equal match because no one was able to see his full power.

[@EditorStevo]

He didn't fight the witch king in the book. The movie added that part, what you're saying isn't true at all. The witch king was just a man, he had no powers. Gandalf would have easily beaten him. If you read the books you'll see for yourself. There's a reason they disguised themselves as riders in black haha

[@uhh345]

@@EditorStevo We're not talking about the books, we're talking about the movies and you just proved my point.

[@uhh345]

@@EditorStevo the valar forbiddeded the wizards to show their full power. What if I told you the Balrogs are more powerful than the dragons. Gandalf could've destroyed Smaug but he couldn't tell that to the dwarves.

[@EditorStevo]

@uhh345 we're not talking about the literal base of all the movies and entire franchise? Grow up. You lost the argument as soon as you talk about some film scenes being canon. Stop trying to mislead people who don't know otherwise. Makes you look even worse if you're a fan

[@EditorStevo]

@@uhh345 Also "Forbidded" isn't a word

[@dejavu2030]

This trilogy is so epic the next movie is the most epic one yet

[@spelhornet9240]

Gloin is father of Gimli, Balin's grave founds in Moria, Thranduil is Legolas father.

[@wadumin]

Thanks for the info ❤

[@cp368productions2]

Seriously dude? The Gloin Gimli reveal is in the next movie. Why the spoilers?

[@spelhornet9240]

@@cp368productions2 They have seen The Lord of Rings, and there called Gimli for Gimli, son of Gloin....so really spoiler is it not

[@Ciffer-1998]

@@spelhornet9240 dude they think they cant remember who is the Witch King and you think that they would remember one time use of their fathers name, thats like expecting people to know Aragorns father i watched thos movies thousand of times and i am still not sure think its something like Arathon, anyway why spoil them all that when it will be sayed in the next movie

[@Big_Tex]

Jerk thanks for the spoilers, what’s wrong with you? You’re the guy in FOTR comments who says “Oh Gandalf’s an immortal Maiar who’s definitely not going to die falling into a crevice fighting a Balrog”.

[@nathanielreik6617]

Shelob is distantly related to the other spiders in this movie. Shelob was born from a gigantic evil spider called Ungoliant (which Radagast mentioned) but these spiders are several generations past from Shelob's siblings. Shelob is the oldest (a couple thousand years) and likely evilest and most powerful spider.

[@kayokango]

If I remember correctly, the actors who played Thorin, Fili and Kili were all originally supposed to have dwarf prosthetics on their faces like the rest of the actors who played dwarves, but there was some sort of stupid studio mandate that vetoed it because they were considered to be sort of "the leading men" of these films, based on their roles in the story. Thus, the studio wanted them to be "handsome". This is why they don't look like dwarves. Peter Jackson tried to work around it by claiming through dialogue by other characters that those three were very young, so they hadn't quite gotten their epic noses and beards yet. Even though the childlike Ori is supposed to be the youngest of the 13 dwarves and in the original book Thorin was actually one of the oldest dwarves in the company.

[@user-jk5um1om8l]

Tolkien changed his mind back and forth about the angelic nature of the eagles (at times he said they were Maiar and similar in kind to Gandalf-just in eagle form), but from that it seems that they cannot intervene beyond a certain point. For me, that explanation makes the most sense! “As emissaries of the Valar, the Eagles may have been somehow limited in how they intervened to great events, which the Valar perhaps considered matters between the Elves and Sauron;[39] for example, they had sent the Wizards, who were prohibited to directly fight Sauron by physical or supernatural force, and the Eagles did aid the free peoples and even participated in battles. But otherwise, the Eagles would had been either afraid, unwilling, incapable, or (like the Wizards) forbidden to take any greater part.”

[@RetroRobotRadio]

44:30 the Witch King of Angmar is one of the Nasgul.

[@nathanielreik6617]

23:10 In another one of Tolkien's stories he gives some more information about the Battle at Moria and actually the reason why they didn't continue on and try to conquer the inside is because a high ranking dwarf advised their leader (who wasn't Thorin at the time) not to go in there because he had looked in and seen the Balrog that Gandalf later fought.

[@bird_and_dude_gaming]

the meta on this video is wilddd

[@lcbonastre2418]

Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin: (1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition (2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition (3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition

[@sabrinaschmitt9267]

Haha guys, nobody sent the dragon. They are wild creatures, not dogs ;D I´m not sure if some of the larger dragons fought alongside Morgoth (top-evil-guy in all Tolkien works, boss of Sauron) loooong ago, but mostly dragons just do what they want, and that is mainly plunder and kill (and hort their stuff. They are like nasty messies, with claws and fire 🤣).

[@refurbishedtechpriest9076]

If I recall right, Morgoth MADE the dragons and used them in his war way back in the day. Only after Morgoth's defeat did the surviving dragons and drakes go on to do their own thing.

[@wadumin]

Wow, thanks for clarifying ❤

[@jonathonfrazier6622]

Goblins are orcs. And they should look like the orcs encountered in Moria. They would have been the same variety.

[@brettpeacock9116]

The Witch-King of Angmar was the Leader of the Nine. (The one who stabbed Frodo on Weathertop in Fellowship, sixty years afterwards)

[@andrealara994]

Martin Freeman ATE this role. Literally carried the film on his back! My favorites dwarves are Kili and Bofur! Bofur is a secondary character but he is so caring, literally, if you pay close attention, he and Kili are the ones who always look out for Bilbo throught the whole film.

[@wadumin]

Absolutely loved his performance ❤

[@nathanielreik6617]

It's been a while since I saw the theatrical so I don't remember everything that was added but I do remember that all the songs except the low slow song they sing in Bilbo's home about the Lonely Mountain were added and Bilbo's conversation with Elrond.

[@Miyshujinminnsoyqi]

The witch king of angmar is the leader of the nazguls and Eowyn killed him in LOTR

[@somebuddy.]

We continue with the hobbit trilogy let's goo!

[@elegrin5170]

53:46 yes bro I agree with you.. That was a biggest mistake of all the films about Lotr.. Because Gollom knows anymore the Baggins name and the Shire.. That's because Sauron learned Frodo's place at Lord of the rings.. remember.. They tortured smeagol and learned Shire, Baggins words :D

[@billprice8596]

The song the dwarves sing is "Far over the Misty Mountains Cold" You can find several covers and the original song here on You Tube. It's one of my favorite songs too.

[@shukei26]

44:52 "Witch King of Angmar" is Saurons right hand man. He is the lord of the Nazgual and the ringwraith that stabbed Frodo on Weathertop.

[@Shanakar]

You two are so amazing and love your reactions! Can't wait to see your reaction to the next movie. Just a note, Saruman was not evil yet here. It's said that him falling to the will of Sauron happened sometime between The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. The reason he doesn't feel different is because Saruman never liked interfering or getting involved with human affairs.

[@JBatGaming2]

It is a shame this is not close to the book at all. And the book was a masterpiece

[@Sir_Alex]

Some people don't like these movies and I somewhat get it, they are not as epic as Lord of the Rings, but they are good they have good moments, and if you love these characters you never have enough of them.

[@elegrin5170]

8:35 Gandalf made a sign at Bilbo's door.. That Letter looks like "F" letter but that's a Rune "G" of Gandalf.. That was his sign.. That means I was here.. :D

[@wadumin]

Aaaah thanks for clarifying ❤

[@Commander-vf1lk]

I remember reading a greek mythological creature book. It’s been long time since I read it. Smaugs are smaller kind of dragons but they love gold/treasures. And are territorial. That’s what I can remember & a few other creatures.

[@elegrin5170]

36:29 Valley of Imladris ... It is known by another name in common language... Rivendell... Amazing

[@billyg898]

As a New Zealander, yes, the landscape shots from LotR and the Hobbit are definitely New Zealand.

[@Anetkari]

It’s beautiful!❤

[@elegrin5170]

41:07 you remembered that place? Look at that mountain's and ruined rock's shape.. That Pale orc Azog's place.. Remember them?.. That is Amon-Sul's watch tower... At fellowship of the rings, that was the place where Frodo stabbed by the Witch King of Angmar (Nazgul) and Aragorn fight Nazgul's and burned them.. That is the same place.. You can see this place at the map

[@shukei26]

6:27 that place is the Shire (better known as Hobbitin) and is in New Zealand. Its an actual tourist attraction where you can spend 3 days and 2 nights. Ive never been but want to go 😅

[@wadumin]

Oh we'll definitely go there

[@meetthedevil1327]

Just to make u all clear about Galadriel and who she really is. She was the actual protagonist of everything!! After the death of Morgoth his disciple Sauron came into power. In the fight of elves and orcs Sauron kills Galadriel’s brother to which Galadriel takes his position and hunts Sauron for 1000 years but with no vain he was nowhere to be found because he was hiding in a human form. Soon Sauron deceptively makes the lord of the rings and becomes so powerful to which Galadriel forms an army of Men (Isildur), dwarf (Durin), Elves (Elrond) to defeat Sauron in which finally Isildur cut off his fingers and defeats him and that is how the story started. Extras: Morgoth was a valar (angelic power or gods) and an antagonist who is 1000x more powerful than sauron.

[@user-wb8eh6lf5n]

I love Martin Freeman, and he did such a good job playing a younger version of Bilbo, besides this role I loved his performance in one of the best Sci Fi comedies "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"

[@wadumin]

He's great, we'll check out that movie ❤

[@doeshumorbelonginmusic5799]

44:50... the witch king of Angmar is the leader of the nazgul. The 9 human kings who got rings and chased Frodo in LotR.

[@lcbonastre2418]

Next The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition and The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition

[@pacio49]

The big spiders are all children of Ungoliant, who is the mother of Shelob, the spider Frodo and Sam fought. Shelob in turn is the child of Ungoliant, the Evil Cosmic Spider of Hunger and Darkness. Ungoliant stole into elf heaven and ate the Two Magic Trees of Light that illuminated the cosmos before the Sun and Moon had to be invented because they got destroyed. Ungoliant is perhaps the most raw embodiment of a concept as you're going to find in Tolkien. She grew so hungry that eventually she consumed herself. Ungoliant represents the horror of darkness and the hunger of the void between the stars. And the void consumed itself, leaving only... the void where the void should be? Ungoliant is kinda trippy as the ur-Spider Cosmic force because Tolkien made her Hungry first and Evil Second as a result of the Hunger. Radaghast mentions Ungoliant when the Spiders appear, calls them her Brood. The cosmic hunger lives on embodied in the Spider form for Tolkien. If you think back to the orcs who found Frodo in the coccoon after tangling with Shelob, they mention that "She's always hungry, old Shelob." Spawn of the Great Cosmic Queen of Hunger, Ungoliant, of course Shelob is always hungry.

[@Hazard33]

Is that little Frodo? "Says Young Bilbo" in the subtitles. coughs

[@user-wb8eh6lf5n]

I love how you meet Gimlis Dad Gloin, and Legolas Dad Thrandruil

[@DreamBillionaire11]

You should react on "the art of racing in the rain".It is a great movie with great story,you will not regret it.

[@Devonshirejackdaw]

Riddles in the dark ❤

[@MrOndrive]

Funny how you described the Hobbit as the child of Lord of the Rings. The book that these films are based on ( The Hobbit ) is in fact a children's book.

[@PeterBuwen]

Don't you remember Balin who's grave was found in Moria by Gimli? And let me tell you that Gimli is Gloin's son.

[@wadumin]

Oooooh just recalled it, wow

[@user-fc8rf2kn1r]

Hello I love your reaction, I recently subscribed. I would like to give you a little information. Eagles are individuals, not pets, in the Tolkien universe. That's why they come after being persuaded. Also, in this universe, eagles can think, make decisions and even talk. That's why they were so gentle when they held Thorin in this movie and Sam and Frodo in "The Return of the King". I continue to watch you, I loved you

[@wadumin]

We Appreciate the support and the info my friend ❤

[@johnnymnemonic7730]

Great reaction from you. I had much fun and it was enjoying to listen to you!

[@Anetkari]

Thank for being here ❤

[@kiaayo33]

A lot of people dont like the "Sequels" of movies but I think they did it good with The Hobbit then LOTR as a sequel!

[@refurbishedtechpriest9076]

I know this is something you two probably won't appreciate fully until the next movie, but Smaug is actually among the SMALLER dragons in Tolkien's mythos. Granted of the ones that have survived up to this point in Middle-Earth he's probably one of the biggest, but compared to the first dragons Morgoth made, he's just a little guy.

[@wadumin]

Ooooo i wanna see THEM BIG ONES

[@divifilius]

Saruman, Gandalf, Galadriel and Elrond form the White Council. They are the Guardians of Middle Earth and also old to remember the earliest days of Middle Earth. Elrond is the youngest in the council, his wife is Galadriel's daughter but she already sailed to the undying lands having suffered a traumatic experience in the hands of the orcs when on her way back from visiting her mother. She was saved by her twin sons but was too diminished that she chose to sail to Valinor. Saruman is the leader of the council although Galadriel preferred Gandalf to lead. Saruman has always had a superiority complex and looks down on his fellow wizards. The Council sought of guide the remaining realms of Middle Earth offering guidance to the rulers of the so called Free Realms, that is, Realms not tainted by Sauron. Gandalf, as you already have seen in the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit takes a direct approach and puts events into motion that eventually leads to weakening of the enemies hold on Middle Earth. Erebor is in a strategic position and if Sauron gets a hold of it, the dragon and the riches within he would be able to defeat the Free Realms with ease. Erebor is also a gateway to the foul kingdom of Angmar the realm of the Witch king(Sauron's Chief Lieutenant and the Nazgul that stabbed Frodo) that was responsible for the fall of Aragorn's Northern Realm of Arnor. The Eagles in Middle Earth are a race of their own with a Lord, a hierarchy and a Realm just like elves, men and dwarves so they cannot just be summoned at anytime. You have to be a friend to call for favors as Gandalf does.

[@Gandalf_the_GOAT]

Next to react to is The Hobbit The Desolation of Smaug 😊

[@MostafaSohrabo]

good luck bro دستخوش ترع❤️