“The Holy Roller” was brilliantly idiotic and the NFL said never again | Weird Rules

In 1978, the Raiders were losing to the Chargers in the closing seconds. Ken Stabler intentionally fumbled, his teammate intentionally slapped and kicked it further while pretending to attempt to pick it up, and a Raider finally fell on it for a touchdown. The Raiders won, and the NFL was having none of it. They quickly put in a rule to prevent these shenanigans from moving forward, and football got a little less fun.
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[@TripleLayerLemonCake]

don’t let this distract you from the fact that the British blew a 13 colony lead

[@ShinTzaddi]

Now that is funny

[@ShinTzaddi]

@Harry Engel That isn't as funny as the 13 colony lead.

[@tacolordentertainment8099]

Harry Engel so what was the point of commenting on stuff everyone knows that doesn’t add anything

[@AFishBicycle]

Long distance relationships rarely work.

[@emseegurran5216]

Oh Yeah Yeah lol

[@astrangehero]

Intentionally fumbling to score? Sounds like my love life.

[@betterwithjetter2987]

Ultra Hero damn

[@naphtalinosayame9681]

I don’t get it

[@steveasare6135]

Oof

[@SpoilerAlert__]

@@naphtalinosayame9681 think about it.

[@dominicgervasio2548]

Makes no sense. This kinda guy says thats what she said the everything bc it kinda works.

[@LafayetTheAwesomeOne]

You guys will want to talk about the 1998 F1 British Grand Prix. Michael Schumacher was leading the race in the last laps, when he was given a 10-second stop&go penalty for lapping another driver despite yellow flags (or under the safety car, I can't remember), and, at that point of the race, serving his whole penalty would have meant for Schumacher to lose too much time and to end up behind title-contender Mika Hakkinen (his advantage was bigger than just 10 seconds, but you know, in the pit lane you're not allowed to drive faster than a certain speed). But in F1, you have to serve your penalty within three laps from being told to do so, so his team (Ferrari) called him in on the very last lap of the race. Schumacher did enter the pit lane to serve his penalty, but in doing so he crossed the finish line (which extends across the pit lane) before reaching his pit box and won the race without having served his penalty. There were no rules forbidding this smart move (and no time for Schumacher to serve his penalty earlier due to a late communication by the race directors), so McLaren's (Hakkinen's team) appeal ended up being useless. Defintely the story of a weird rule!

[@SecretBaseSBN]

Woah....that is amazing. Thank you so much for the write up, gonna dig around a bit more but I think you gave us enough to work with for a future episode. We'll make sure to give you a shout out, or feel free to DM me on twitter (@wbuik) if you want us to credit you another way

[@robertgoldhirsch4065]

Lafayet - DTA awesome story. SBnation awesome reply/offer of credit.

[@LafayetTheAwesomeOne]

​@@SecretBaseSBN I appreciate that! Thank you for your awesome offer, but I honestly don't think I deserve any special credit. I mean, in the end all I did was writing a few lines about a fun story. It was my pleasure to do so and let people find out about such a weird fact :) I'm not allowed to DM you on twitter, so I'll write you here: in case you want to mention me (which would be a little too much, I think, but of course I woudn't complain xD), my actual name is Raffaele, but Rafa or my nickname "Lafa" are even better, and I follow you from L'Aquila, Abruzzi, central Italy. But if you really want to do so, then please don't forget to say that I absolutely LOVE this series: "Weird rules" is so much fun! PS: Of course if I get to know (or just remember) any other story with a weird rule as a protagonist, I'll make sure to let you know :)

[@LafayetTheAwesomeOne]

Otherwise, I guess 1 million dollars via bank transfer would also be great ahahahahah :P

[@CarlosISoares]

While at the F1 subject, look for Senna's record of fastest lap while using the box pit lane...

[@koryhill271]

This is one of those rules where you can just feel the commissioners pinching the bridge of their noses, sighing, and going "No, god damn it... I can't... you just can't... why does this need... god damn it..."

[@tylerhorn3712]

Makes sense that you can't keep tossing the ball forwarding, and let it be considered a fumble.

[@JonatasAdoM]

@@tylerhorn3712 Otherwise players will just keep it going and now we're playing a different sport altogether.

[@tylerhorn3712]

@@JonatasAdoM It would be much more like rugby, where the game keeps going forever, in either direction.

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

@@JonatasAdoMso technicaly football is just a version of american football where the players keep fumbling a mid-field kick with their legs until the ball ends up in the goal

[@bennypanella9189]

Beef History: SB Nation vs Jon Bois

[@SecretBaseSBN]

jon can't post a video until he defeats every other member of the sb nation video staff in fencing

[@nickgreen9080]

SB Nation LMAO

[@bennypanella9189]

@@SecretBaseSBN Come on Jon! Parry! Remember to Parry!!!!

[@sevensrefrain]

if you guys actually look in the sbnation website, jon bois uploaded a new article on the site, but not a video. it was about the AFC championship game.

[@AWPtical800]

he put out an article about Pat Mahomes recently.

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

I've fumbled my way to victory several times in madden

[@kjsdpgijn]

Well he was the Raiders' coach, so it makes sense It's not a glitch... it's a game mechanic ;)

[@troliskimosko]

*intentional game design*

[@ElGranSanto]

I once made two players fumble on ONE God blessed play. Third guy came out of nowhere, recovered and still scored. Madden hates me and I hate everything.

[@jtdao]

Surprised yall don't have seatgeek ads yet lmao

[@madas1435]

@Hussar no, no.... They can't be

[@jordandennis6794]

@Hussar Well... I'm not watching SB Nation anymore

[@CharlieND]

@Husarz Vox is pretty attrocious and liberal.

[@benramsell3245]

Husarz lmao ur kidding right.?

[@yoshi2413]

Husarz lmao that has to be a joke they're one of the most biased I've seen.

[@SavageGreywolf]

I want to live in the universe where the ruling went the other way and 'intentional fumbles' become a part of NFL strategy

[@chulyeom2366]

From ‘The Simpsons’, s3e14, “Lisa the Greek”: Homer: Who do you like in the afternoon games? Lisa: Well, I like the 49ers because they're pure of heart, Seattle because they've got something to prove, and the Raiders because they always cheat. [fade to a few hours later] TV announcer: And on an extremely suspicious play, the Raiders win!

[@Razz415]

How many plays from the John Madden Raiders led to rule changes? The dude has become football incarnate. Legend!

[@felixlueggerto]

That's the Raiders if the 70s in General. Matt Millen said on the America's Game episode about the 1980 Raiders that Cheating is encouraged

[@dragonforceczar1610]

Why else would there be a football video game series named after him?

[@Razz415]

@@felixlueggerto I remember seeing that and thinking 'if you're not cheating, you're trying' basically summing up that era of football. Raiders were the bad guys and didnt give a crap.

[@dark_knight7328]

Razz415 I thought it was “If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying”

[@TryPuttingItInRice]

@@felixlueggerto It's not cheating if there isn't a rule against doing it.

[@Magic_beans_]

From ‘The Simpsons’, s3e14, “Lisa the Greek”: Homer: Who do you like in the afternoon games? Lisa: Well, I like the 49ers because they're pure of heart, Seattle because they've got something to prove, and the Raiders because they always cheat. [fade to a few hours later] TV announcer: And on an extremely suspicious play, the Raiders win!

[@teamcybr8375]

@Dottoman D&D DM?

[@louisianaball]

Who dat

[@heidi7151]

I think intentional fumbling should be legal. It's not a freebie guaranteed gain without risk. There is enormous risk, especially when defenses become aware of the tactic.

[@chrischris9123]

"Intentionally fumbling" the ball to make progress is nothing more than an illegal forward pass with extra steps. The NFL was right to stop that before it got out of hand.

[@heidi7151]

@@chrischris9123 It's not a pass though. When a pass hits the ground, it's incomplete and the play is dead. When a fumble hits the ground, anyone can grab it.

[@chrischris9123]

@@heidi7151 That's exactly what I'm saying. Intentionally or unintentionally tossing/throwing/fumbling the ball forward in the hopes it goes to your teammates is an illegal pass. Bouncing it off the ground is the extra step. As soon as it hits the ground, it should be considered an incomplete pass. What you're asking is to get rid of incomplete passes, and replace them with "intentional fumbles." That's kinda ridiculous and destroys strategy at the end of tight games. And not just for teams who are down. If you're ahead by less than a score, you could run the clock down on 4th down with a charade of "intentional fumbles" instead of punting. That sounds like schoolyard shenanigans, not a professional sport.

[@mtejada10]

I’m sort of nitpicking here, but technically a lateral is an intentional fumble

[@chrischris9123]

@@mtejada10 You're right.. sort of. But you can't lateral forward, and it's the forward progression that's being debated.

[@finfin4343]

it just happened

[@Toast_Points]

This video was the first thing I thought of when it happened!

[@RenzonEliSanchez]

ALSO a Raiders vs Chargers game

[@ndrocca]

Who else is here after this rule made the Browns lose to the Jets and maybe cost them the playoffs? Edit: It did not cost the Browns the playoffs, but it did give us more reason to laugh at the Jets since it made it impossible for them to get the #1 pick.

[@notnowliberty]

I love these 'weird rules' videos. Well, I love the other ones too, but these are hilarious.

[@petrofor3430]

My grandma plays dice after mass and says she’s a “holy roller”

[@chopstycks9089]

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that the refs missed an obvious pi call

[@ericholt56]

And due to that call and a series of unfortunate events my saints aren't going to the Superbowl god damn it Spanos

[@lamarodom98]

And cost the saints a ring

[@ohnah6261]

Too bad they got the ball in overtime and couldn’t score

[@GirwinHatesLife]

@@ohnah6261 The game doesn't go to overtime if the call is made properly.

[@BlazeSLK]

ericholt56 Is is safe to say New Orleans is cursed at this point?

[@alextiansay9432]

Hilarious that it just happened again on Thursday Night Football in overtime. Once again between the Raiders and Chargers of all teams. This time the Chargers were the victors.

[@jey4908]

These segments need more video

[@talkgb]

JE Y yea

[@Sai4651]

It may be a copyright thing

[@JustcallmeGnarly22]

Jameis Winston better be watching.

[@landen2956]

Eric G good one dudeeeeeee oh yeah yeah

[@Jakebreaks95]

@@landen2956 L

[@armadillolover99]

He's too busy baking up the turnovers at World Famous Jameis' Bakery to watch this

[@armadillolover99]

And remember: a portion of all proceeds collected by World Famous Jameis' Bakery will go to the Foundation of Residually Assaulted Uber Drivers and the Battalion of Unloved Sports Teams

[@JustcallmeGnarly22]

Ezra Sitt and to provide crab legs to the homeless.

[@cbm3]

I wonder how many rule changes come into effect at the 2 minute warning

[@dominiquerosemond5682]

A lot....

[@cbm3]

There are 10 second runoff rules also for injuries and when the refs review a play, and for a couple other situations. its the rule that cost the lions the game against the falcons last year because they ran 10 seconds off when there were 7 seconds left in the game. Its happened other times also I just cant remember them off the top of my head

[@tripleparakeetshoes4613]

Suggestion for the next weird rules: When a Rams corner wrecks a Saints receiver in an NFC Championship game and it's not pass interference.

[@xxEzraBxxx]

or Detriot

[@nathangrabowski7338]

This rule was enforced yesterday during the chargers vs raiders Thursday night football game

[@cooperbeltran5209]

And now yesterday in browns vs jets

[@johnnyraymond429]

What happened to the Packers in 2014 because of the rule change was rather unfortunate for them. They lost that game, and ended up with the 2 seed that year. If they had somehow come up with a win in the Bills game, they would have been the 1 seed. They ended up losing a road game in OT to the Seahawks, which would have been played in Green Bay instead if they had won the game vs the Bills.

[@brokenwave6125]

They got a safety either way...

[@johnnyraymond429]

​@@brokenwave6125 It looks to me like the RB made it just out of the end zone, so if the rule doesn't exist, the ball would have been spotted on the 1 yard line.

[@mgb4692]

That the same game Jordy Nelson dropped what would have been a 95 yard TD?

[@brandoncronan348]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer qb.

[@joshleonard9311]

This is what being a lions fan is like.

[@tstan9713]

Like blowing out green bay last game of the season and it means nothing. Epitome of being a snoil fan

[@c.a.clayton4584]

Can look on the bright side... Any Lions fan worth their salt know so many obscure rules because of all the bullshit this team has went through year in and year out

[@noahk8309]

This rule just came into play with the Browns and the Jets.

[@enfynet]

That ball didn’t touch the ground so it opened doors to what is a fumble

[@lurchlogan]

This reminds me of the rule the NHL came up with when Sean Avery was intentionally trolling the goalie by waving his hands & stick in front of the goalie's face as to distract him so his team can score!! I thought it was genius, but the NHL was not having it & so they came up with the Avery rule saying you couldn't do that anymore!! 🏒🏒

[@tac6557]

I think a goalie slashed him too

[@bemusedalligator]

A player who interferes with another player *especially the goalkeeper* while in an offside position in association football is called for offside. So while you can do that to the goalkeeper off corners, you (usually) can't during regulation play. Baseball seems to take distracting the pitcher as a kind of artform, but the pitchers in baseball just don't care anymore.

[@cjshockey0452]

Jake Shattuck ya he got slashed and I’m glad he was

[@rrmedia3392]

RIP Ken “The Snake” Stabler

[@TPaine1776]

Watched this on tv when is was young. Was crazy. One minute you are cursing the Raiders for blowing the game and then it's like WTF just happened, lol.

[@gabebrown3807]

anyone here after the browns lost to the jets

[@temclaughlin1]

Man, the 70s just screwed the Browns

[@thegoldfly1]

The 70s, the 80s, the 90s, 00s, 10s, The 20s aren't looking too bad so far though.

[@cards1160]

Related to this topic, another one of my favorite football oddities: the Nebraska University fumble rooskie Look it up it’s great

[@joshsinclair1796]

Watching this on 12/17/20, and this JUST HAPPENED in a Raiders/Chargers game. In overtime. With 2 minutes to go. And the referees all assembled as if they knew “know is the time.”

[@h00ded0ne4]

High school football official here. Every week before a game, our crew chief sends out a list of game situations for us to review. We talk about these on our drive to the game we are officiating. Sometimes it is just a worded situation and sometimes there is an accompanying video. We are expected to be able to identify the infraction, know the rule that applies and the enforcement. There is generally a theme that all the situations have in common, such as illegal forward passes or fair catches. Often times, these themes are uncommonly seen game situations that you rarely see, if ever. Before the game, the officials have a pre-game conference to go over potential game situations we are likely to face based on the teams playing that night. We also have a refresher of all major enforcement rules such as all the automatic first down penalties, all the loss of down penalties, etc. We also talk about end of half/end of game situations we are likely to see and what special rules apply. Every timeout, we get together to talk about what we might see next and what things to watch for that would be considered rare or unusual. At Halftime, we talk about what we think we got wrong or missed and what we think we nailed perfectly, despite the coach/players/fans losing their minds. After the game, we have a post-game conference to talk about what the Referee will be submitting on his report to the Commissioner of the League that details everything mentioned above. The next week, we get to see the commissioner's review of our game film and all the times we were out of position or our mechanics were poor. This is at the HIGH SCHOOL level. At every level, the amount of preparation and knowledge intensifies because so does the scrutiny. You better believe that NFL referees are expected to know every sentence in that rule book and when it applies. Keep in mind most NFL officials are already Doctors, Lawyers and big businessmen that already have a tendency to be that detail oriented.

[@keith_berger]

Here after the chargers raiders game in 2020

[@bryanjefferson5690]

Anyone here after the browns and jets game

[@slewofdamascus]

The Raiders Dolphins and Steelers are the 1970s in NFL football. And well earned. Between 1971 and 1983, one of three (or both) appeared in 11 of 12 AFC Championship games. This was the best period of NFL football including MNF.

[@thenumberquelve158]

So proud of you guys for finally discovering the secret behind Two Minute Warnings! *salute*

[@LoLotov]

I notice in the Aaron Rodgers/Eddie Lacey example, not only was the ball surrounded by 5 opposing players with only Lacey close enough to prevent a touchdown, but he was also TACKLED in the endzone. Good example of how the rule works, but it would be a safety anyway in that particular situation. He clearly was trying to run forward with it but that ended up not mattering anyway. Heads up play keeping it to only 2, gotta forgive the guy for losing track of this particular rule.

[@craigIsBlack]

Wow this happen last night! History repeats its self

[@matthewelliot5696]

Intentionally fumbling... sounds like passing

[@nickschuman4652]

Coming back to this because it literally just happened in the chargers raiders game

[@ahogg5960]

You've got to talk about the underarm bowling orchestrated by Australian captain Greg Chappell to his younger brother Trevor, in the final play of a cricket game in 1981 between Australia and New Zealand. New Zealand needed a six to tie the game and so Greg ordered his brother to roll the ball along the ground (at the time, totally legal) to prevent the batter from slugging it over the fence to hit the six needed to tie the game, not even win it. The International Cricket Council swiftly banned anything like that happening again. It caused such an uproar that even the Prime Ministers of both countries made comment on it.

[@lakeeriesailor2852]

funny that about 23 years later, this same team was involved in another "controversial fumble", but that time, Oakland got burned....tuck rule!

[@Namath1000]

Maybe the tuck rule was karma for the holy roller.

[@toddhursey7418]

Tuck rule when it wasnt a rule. Pathetic. Another rule is no tackling hard. Lol

[@ernestaguirre4300]

That one put a strain on Gene Klein's ticker

[@michaellopez1350]

Has taken place during bengals and steelers game

[@faycoffey2949]

That's why I came here too

[@arlopear7136]

@@faycoffey2949 and me as well lol

[@denistuohy2535]

I personally think these guys are pretty cool not Jon Bois but still pretty good

[@matheusfiorelli8829]

of course it had to come up in a Jets x Browns game xD

[@sam21462]

You guys seem to miss just how brilliant that play was. It was legal and an unbelievable case of making something out of nothing.

[@lamarodom98]

Unfortunately you guys aren’t really funny and thats okay i guess

[@Rushmore222]

I think the guy in the ballcap still misunderstands the rule. The ball was ruled dead because it was within 2 minutes of the half, Rodgers fumbled it and he wasn't the offensive player who recovered it. That the ball ended up behind Rodgers had nothing to do with it.

[@kaminsod4077]

Back when the Raiders weren't the premier laughing stock of the league

[@dl4577]

yeaaah aiiiiiight. i guess that belongs to the cardinals. my raiders are right number 2 though

[@anonymousperson3023]

When? The worst team at the current moment is the Cardinals. Browns are known for bad coaching decisions. You get my point by now. There is always some team who is worse than the Raiders

[@TornaitSuperBird]

Tylersaurand back when the Raiders actually played like the Raiders

[@nikobrenic8444]

Jake Shattuck lions are still and will be laughing stock. The browns don’t need a dome to attract a loyal fan base.

[@Boostergold03]

@@dl4577 no Giants,Bucs,Dolphins,Steelers,Redskins are worst so no. Not even close

[@Chorlied9727]

This just screwed over the browns

[@noneofyourbusiness3286]

Pretty sure this rule came up this season. TNF Jets at Browns. Mayfield fumbled in the last 2 minutes of the first half. A lineman picked up the ball and ran for around 10 yards but it was called back to the spot of the fumble. I was all “WHAT THE FATCH???”

[@forgottenfamily]

It should be that you can intentionally fumble, but team who fumbled can't gain yardage on a fumble and if you recover ahead of the point of fumble, play is blown dead

[@AntediluvianInternetEntity]

RIP to a legend.

[@TheDieseI]

Waiting for a team to do this with 2mins and 1 second left in the 4th quarter to win the super bowl

[@Tony__Tone]

RIP San Diego Chargers and those sweet yellow pants.

[@LeonardoDiax24]

I’ve always thought about why Teams don’t just pretend to fumble the ball and recover it to get yards

[@tisditxuoc]

The Cody Parkey Kick deserves a DEEP rewind.

[@pnessi570]

T-Jay i would prefer to not see anything about that on this channel... or any channel... or hear about it... or acknowledge it happened.

[@anonymousperson3023]

@@pnessi570 Bears fan?

[@pnessi570]

Kendrick Mott bears fan who was at the game...

[@realnigga42069]

Facts they need to prove I’m elite

[@ConorC917]

Phil Historia Do you need a hug?

[@Oswald1916]

It's not pronounced "Bahn-a-zak", it's "BAN-UH-ZAK." Ban rhymes with can. You should ask.

[@Crouchie261]

"Maddens on the field, He wants to know if it's real, they say yes, get your big butt out of here!"

[@geno1825]

EPIC

[@chrispierce1739]

The call was by Bill King who was the voice of the Raiders and the Oakland A's.

[@d.m.conroy6717]

you're stuck in the Charlie Rose room

[@waitwhatOo]

I love being a Raiders fan

[@americanIDOLfan11111]

Everybody on the field knows the rule. The only reason Eddy Lacy picked the ball up is so it wouldn’t be a TD.

[@sbrokmann]

I remember this rule coming into play in Baker‘s First Game with the Browns. I think it was Joel Bitonio picking up a loose ball from behind and running it for a decent amount of yards. I remember Joe Thomas being so proud of him back at the booth, only for the play to then be declared dead at the spot of recovery.

[@calebbruck1586]

Was Joe Thomas on the field

[@sbrokmann]

@@calebbruck1586 nope, but he was part of the NFL Network Crew

[@mgb4692]

@@calebbruck1586 first offensive lineman in NFL history

[@Zilkat]

This rule just came into effect in a potential game winning fumble recovery within the last 2 minutes of overtime. Funnily enough, it involved the same two teams - Raiders vs Chargers. The chargers scored a touchdown anyway on the very next play.

[@michaelcrook6854]

Beef history: Refs vs. Saints

[@marquisdelafayette1929]

Michael Crook refs vs anybody playing the patriots

[@drsch]

No, the way you're describing the Packers play is wrong. It was a safety because he was tackled in the end zone and never made it out. If he'd made it out of the end zone it wouldn't have been a safety because he didn't advance the ball. The ball has to make it back to the line of scrimmage to be considered "Advanced"

[@sean3533]

This is the kind of play we'd need Ed Hoculey to explain in the AFC championship. His soothing voice calmly explaining the precedent set out in 1970. Now with the great man retired, what hope have we!!

[@bemoore4]

I actually saw this game (I was 14 years old in 1978), and at the moment the ball left Stabler's hand, I was saying that he "fumbled forward on purpose". Pete Banaszak (pronounced, BAN (which rhymes with "plan")-Ah-Zack, not BAHN-ah-zack), is the true hero on that play (his cheating look least obvious). As a Raiders fan, I knew that my team got away with one that day...and I'm also glad that they added rules to keep it from happening again.

[@davidellinger1287]

Thank goodness someone told them how to pronounce Banaszak.

[@baberuth1000]

The last two minutes of this video had me dying!

[@michaelleroy9281]

Best moment in NF L history

[@manuginobilisbaldspot424]

Raiders exploit rules...they say it's bad for the game, cheating, deceitful. Patriots exploit/bend/break rules...smart franchise. Funny how that works.

[@coolkid-cp7dq]

How do pats bend rules

[@footballhamster]

I suggest you actually look at a typical comment section about the Pats. 90% of the comments will be calling them cheaters.

[@johnnyraymond429]

@ Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot More like the other way around. Do you not remember the 2014/2015 AFC Division round game between the Patriots and Ravens? The Patriots ran a trick play which had just recently been used in the NCAA against the Ravens, making the RB an Offensive Lineman on one play and then making a lineman an eligible receiver. John Harbaugh complained vehemently about it, claiming that noone had ever seen that before, when it was used only two months before in the NCAA. The NFL owners then decided to change the rules so that ineligible receivers have to line up in the tackle box. So, no, people aren't really saying the Patriots are smart for exploiting the rules, they're getting infuriated.

[@ShinTzaddi]

The Raiders (my Raiders) used to take any advantage that they could. The Holy Roller was, at that time, not illegal. Stickem was not illegal until Lester Hayes was picked on by the NBC commentators about it being all over his uniform. Fred Biletnikoff used Stickem throughout his career. Pitchers in MLB use clear pine tar especially in cold weather to help them keep a good grip on the ball. Corked bats, steroids...these were all at one time not illegal. Taking advantage is part of sports. Get used to it.

[@anthonynguyen7513]

*Pats win in OT by the first possession* everyone is saying that the OT rules need to be changed *someone points laser at tom's face* Media: eh

[@tonytom5242]

Madden online... 4th and 8 4th qtr 45sec down 4 I throw an Int Def runs for a pick 6 Game rules TD in my favor Oppen rage quits

[@lightyagami3492]

I thought the play itself was funny now the commentary is even better 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@nicknumber1512]

I'm afraid you guys missed one aspect of this. Rather than running off the field to consult the list of secret 2-minute warning rules (which is admittedly funnier), the refs do remind each other of this rule by doing the rolling motion with their hands (also used to signal false starts and illegal formation) before plays where it applies. For a long time it was a signal I saw but didn't understand.

[@jackinblack19]

This happened to the browns this year

[@franknitti9126]

Sad, you must be a browns fan

[@jackinblack19]

Frank Nitti I’m a Vikings fan, I just remember it for some reason, still I don’t really see what’s sad about that, they have a great future

[@CowSaysMooMoo]

Say it with me......."Ban' a Sack" Pete Ban-a sack....not BON a sek....

[@Xphyzeek]

No boohoo that cost them the 1 seed and most likely a superbowl berth

[@absolutezerok]

I mean, that replay looked like Lacey got tackled in the end zone anyway so this rule was a moot point.

[@samsignorelli]

Or, as we San Digeans (even those who, like me, no longer live there) call it: The Immaculate Deception.

[@ldproductions509]

I ask again, please make a video on the Houston Oilers franchise.

[@PopcornNinjapwn]

Crazy that this rule came into play today, Dec 17th 2020, with the same teams Raiders vs Chargers

[@nnnitr0]

How do you find these rules?

[@SecretBaseSBN]

Well... /takes long drag from a cigarette //coughs for a while, forgetting I don't smoke One trick is looking for rules named after players. Sometimes we've literally gone through rulebooks, just scanning for bizarre words/terms/whatever. A lot of the time though it's someone on the team, in the comments, anyone who knows of a story then finding the associated rule that allowed it to happen or was created as a result of it.

[@jeremydobbs9308]

Look at the film. Stabler's arm was going forward. That was an incomplete pass

[@peteg475]

CORRECT! If the refs called it right, nobody would have pushed for a rule change because it was obviously a forward pass. The refs just missed the call.

[@JaqPC16]

Am I the only one who has always called this the fumblerooski

[@SecretBaseSBN]

I totally thought the same thing going into this, they're kinda different though. There are similarities for sure, but you can actually still pull off a legal fumblerooski. Too many details to go into it in a YT comment, but definitely worth checking out the wikipedia entry for it if you have literally nothing else to do haha

[@cnking27]

I think a fumblerooski involves an intentionally botched snap

[@Austin101123]

Intentional backwards fumble is just a backwards lateral though. It's stupid that they count it down when someone else picks it up after that.

[@gregtjr.7871]

2:09 shoutout to Action Park

[@mrmoose6619]

Traction Park... Gotta love it.

[@EnoVarma]

American Football: too many rules and the name doesn't describe the game. So why is this still a thing?

[@chaosof99]

Avery Rule when?

[@SecretBaseSBN]

Check out our episode of Beef History: Avery vs. Brodeur where we cover it there. Because of that video, it's lower on the list of episodes for Weird Rules, but maybe we'll get to it at some point

[@chaosof99]

@@SecretBaseSBN Yeah, have seen it. Just thought it would be funny to come up with other things you could do to a goalie to distract him. Also, if you do the episode, don't forget to mention that there was only ever one other player to get called on that rule, and that was Chris Pronger (at least so far).

[@smala017]

Can you do a Weird Rules on the rule that says you’re allowed to hit a defenseless receiver with your helmet before the pass arrives as long as it’s less than two minutes left in the fourth quarter in the NFC Championship game and it’s within the 10 yard line on specifically 3rd down? Thanks

[@captainamerica2521]

That rule should be changed so that it only applies to a FORWARD fumble. PS the Saints got screwed by the refs.

[@Dbebk24]

Captain America definitely

[@juana1483]

THE HOLY ROLLER...is like The Mona Lisa....a true piece of Art. Like no other. I remember when the Raiders wet the field down. Soooo many artistic plays The Raiders coined.

[@kjoc70]

The "Holy Roller" should have been called an incomplete forward pass.

[@Namath1000]

@M Detlef Under 1978 rules, it should have been called an illegal forward pass. Releasing the ball on purpose is a PASS not a fumble. And a forward pass that hits the ground uncaught (as the holy roller did) is an incomplete pass. The referee mistook the forward pass for a fumble.

[@toddhursey7418]

Not if it was underhand. Raiders motto? Just win baby. Football sucks today. Its been unwatchable for 25 yrs.

[@kjoc70]

@@toddhursey7418 it doesn't matter how the ball is thrown, just which direction it goes.

[@alexyandrade6773]

Who else is here after the Browns loss to the Jets?

[@Mingura666]

Brady was clearly aware of this. Suspend him!!!

[@anon688]

Ben Davidson rule. Ken Stabler rule. Lyle Alzedo rule Jack Tatum rule Lester Hayes is whistling on by...

[@gavinmcdonald5566]

These guys aren't that funny

[@sandson1601]

Starkill3r - ^

[@googlymoogly69-t3g]

@@62Trevor2199 I slapped yo mamma

[@xmonkey3330]

To be fair Dave Casper makes it look semi-believable

[@Namath1000]

They all made it look believable. The referee was Jerry Markbreit. He's considered by many to be the rest referee of all-time and he was fooled.

[@kansascityshuffle4141]

I'm not understanding, Rodgers fumbled from the 2-3 yard line. The rule says you can not advance the ball unless you are the one who fumbled. He should be able to return it to that point though. So should be a safety because he didn't get out not called dead where recovered. On second thought that's a backwards fumble and should be a live ball under any rule.

[@nathangrabowski7338]

Just happened again Jets vs. browns