The Honda-Swapped Ferrari RE-BUILD Begins: Ep 1

[@chrisc6452]

Very impressive to tackle all of the suspension stuff. Suspension is one of the dark arts for me and always so confusing, especially tough when you really need to track test any changes. Great episode, and looking forward to the next one

[@gregmcable]

Suspension is no joke. Frankly, without a very seasoned chassis engineer with extensive racing experience, the whole thing seems iffy. Serious challenge in so many project cars.

[@C42ST3N]

The hard part is the geometry to get roll center, camber curves etc correctly. The spring is kind of the easiest part here. As he mentioned you just have to make sure that the sring rate is as constant as possible or maybe a bit progressive. The good thing while using a push rod setup is, that if you get a non liniear spring rate coefficient you are also getting more dampening force. So the damper will "adjust" itself aswell and you can actually use this. A progressive spring rate can be used for example to get the car a bit more understeery under load or something like that. I would use a more linear setup at first however and by just changing the rocker you can add different characteristics later easily.

[@oldschool1993]

Controls by knobs are far better for adjusting while driving. Buttons look high tech, but require you to take your eyes off the road to select a button, then they often are combined with some sort of graphic which displays the amount of adjustment. Knobs are tactile and after using them for a short while you can select and adjust them by feel without ever looking at them.

[@davidmcdermott3415]

Those hose fittings are bad ass, wow. This build just keeps getting better.

[@malcolmmoy]

Nice, but an added failure point.

[@BenLiftsStuff]

Love to see the Bowden's Own product placement too. As an Aussie this warms my heart.

[@chesterrory]

Mike, I've spent the last two - or so - weeks binge-watching through the entire 308/244 bild, and I've got to tell you this is one of the best bild series I've ever seen. The format, production value, and the way you present the steps you taking to develop this car are spot on. I really enjoyed every bit of this massive playlist! From powering through the endless control arm revisions, being frustrated because of the wheels, rooting for you and the team on the WTAC, and gasping in sorrow when the engine blew up, I experienced so many great moments it's hard to put into words. In the beginning, I was the same as many others: "You ruined a nice Ferrari", but was I wrong! So, please do not listen to anyone! You built an amazing track weapon all by yourself and you deserve every bit of recognition for it! Keep up this great work and show us how you beat the world with your Honda swapped Ferrari! Even my wife rooting for you and she isn't even into cars at all!

[@phill0406]

Every time you do CAD work I get more and more motivated to use it. Such a powerful tool.

[@aaronDjVu]

Fusion 360 rules. I highly recommend it. It can be intimidating at first but there are a few free 30 day lessons on KZbin that will teach you the basics and is worth your time

[@OoMDCToO]

There's no need 4 whining about motivation to use software. You either do or don't.

[@owensparks5013]

Onshape > Confusion 360 😉

[@neovenom7187]

Autodesk has it's own FAQ website where you can find everything you need. be it Fusion 360 or AutoCAD or any other software they have. I have been using it 2 years now for designing parts, and programming them to make them on CNC machines. Small adjustments on the fly can save me hours of machining time.

[@LacerdaRafael]

Siemens NX is the best

[@shifty3583]

Just an FYI, in Fusion 360, you can add threads to holes very easily. Check the "Modeled" box in the thread dialog, and the resulting 3d models will have the threads printed in place - no need for adding extra walls or tapping by hand!

[@woznaldo]

Happy to see another Ferrari episode! I’ve designed inboard pushrod actuated suspension before and my tip would be, don’t underestimate the lateral loads on the rockers. Make sure whatever bearings you use can support lateral loads too. While we aim to have the push rod, rocker and coilover in the same plane, the pushrod will diverge away from it, which adds a lateral component. Remember to actuate the system through the full range of motion and place your plane so alignment is achieved at the highest load. This is a simplification but, you get the point. The other benefit of the improved motion ratio is the damper will be using more of its range which will give you more resolution and control. A damper needs to move to do its job.

[@RogueViirus12]

Woo, problem solving content! Always love the process of working through issues and working to the solutions, even if they're small tasks like this. Also enjoy just more exposure to people getting to see just how versatile CAD is. Glad you're finally enjoying 3D printing and it's huge workflow boosts now that you've got the no fuss printer. Tons of issues noticed before final part production or just straight up solved without having to waste time dialing in a more finnicky setup. Excited for the new suspension saga, although I hope you don't end up making another mountain of control arms!

[@owensparks5013]

To anyone intimidated at the thought of learning CAD, please don't be. I put off learning for years, thinking it was only for people fluent in complex maths. Nothing could be further from the truth. A handful of really simple tools allow you to design just about anything.

[@RogueViirus12]

@@owensparks5013 Absolutely. I learned back when I was in middle school about 15-16 years ago. Had no clue what I was doing and my teacher at the time had a "chuck you in the pool headfirst and learn how to swim" mentality. Didn't have nearly as many tutorials, QOL features, etc as there are today for learning but man it's come a long way. And so have the means to get those designed parts into your hands for a reasonable price if you don't have the means to make them yourself. I think Mike has a bare bones getting into CAD tutorial for making car parts on the channel too if people want to hear him run through the basics.

[@Onlooker71]

Yes!!! No disrespect to your other projects, but this is without a doubt my favorite car project on KZbin right now. Can’t wait to see what you do this year.

[@Jules_73]

After watching Kyle at Boostedboys explain whe he runs k20 instead of k24 a couple years ago I wondered why you were running a k24. The k20 can take more boost and is more reliable.

[@Levibetz]

If you think it lifted the head it may good to add a coolant pressure sensor and configure a safety in the ecu to prevent future damage like this.

[@rickmellor]

You cleaning your car before working on it is a detail that is helping you become the GOAT.

[@Tclans]

Loving the small qol changes, though tiny they are profound 👌🏼

[@KarlGreaves]

Please show the maths regarding the new front suspension! I have always wanted to know more about how this style of suspension works. As always, keep up with these amazing videos mate! The look, the editing, the information are done so well. A big thank you!

[@SteezusONsmokE]

I really really enjoy watching these research and development style videos. Currently, I'm working on my own project, which marks my first venture into engine ,transmission,electrical swaps. Although my build isn't quite a Ferrari, your vids have been incredibly helpful. Sending love from the UK, Mike. Looking forward to the next ❤🏎️

[@NAFIGGAMING]

Mike 2 years of waiting for you to drive it the first time.I don't know about anyone else but I like seeing you happy to work on it period. Just get it ready to go back to WTA in the fall 😂

[@G_Ozare]

Mike is just built different. His meticulous approach to builds is incredible. Not to say anything about the tuner you use on the K series AT ALL but Jamie Marsh (Marsh Tuning) is an absolute monster tuning K-engines.

[@shaunmeek4429]

I love these types of videos, in depth problem solving and re-engineering, can't wait to see the final results.

[@liam821]

Robert@Tractuff is such a great guy and makes some amazing parts at the same time, he's is helping me with a drysump solution for my project. Can't wait until you get this back at the track!

[@antibrevity]

In terms of the Haltech panel I agree that an extra bend or bracing may be required as the new combo might vibrate. Murphy suggests that it's natural frequency and perhaps a harmonic will occur in your power band ;). Hopefully I'm wrong, but racing tends to energize anything on a stalk or bracket. Thanks for the updates and for talking about the failed engine diagnosis even if there's nothing definitive; we all want to know even if the answer isn't satisfying.

[@robertt3715]

Love to see the Ferrari back center stage! I really like the new position of the keypad, but I would also expect that some reinforcement will be very good for QOL and longevity. In a race, with gloves on, and vibrations and stuff, having a nice solid bracket behind it will make (imo) a huge difference. I made a couple of brackets on my car that attach to the steering column, they are super solid, and are always in the same place even if I adjust the wheel. My original design were thinner material, and I constantly felt like I was could press them and break the bracket if I wasn't careful.

[@38tech]

How the hell does this guy only have 277k ??? What great content. Keep up the great work.

[@mrvapor4791]

I think at the beginning of this build he had 54k

[@cheesepizza87]

Welcome back Mike, pushrod suspension on the Ferrari has me hyped after the sad news with the quattro kit (hoping someone can help still make it happen)

[@joeldavis3152]

Great idea with the pushrod suspension, I have done this with my time attack project. There are some videos on my channel.

[@anatolia2014]

Hated seeing the engine give way but love when you go "back to the drawing board" - those are my favourite episodes. Love the way you approach both larger and smaller problems, break them down to bite size pieces and then provide a solution to each one, very therapeutic

[@audiemblems]

I adore this type of approach. If you’re going to weld anything, factor in the thermal expansion and possible metal bending/curving

[@Markisamiller]

I am so stoked for a full rebuild series. Can't wait to see the lessons learned and the improvements made.

[@christianmeinking3380]

Why not pull-rod? Puts the dampers lower and maybe opens up other packaging options?

[@MrAppletree318is]

Great series, be nice to see how you do all the little mods on it to sort it out properly.

[@RealRickCox]

It's great seeing you getting back to the Ferrari. Your other projects are really cool... but this is the project that got my sub.

[@johnrobie9694]

FYI, I also use a Bambu to prototype before SendCutSend. I design as a sheet metal component, then use boundary fill to create a solid component that I can additional supports to. Changes to the sheet metal component cascade to the solid component. That way, I have a usable FDM part while I wait for the SendCutSend one.

[@jaynuck]

Glad to see you back at it Mike. Thanks for sharing and happy to follow along.

[@BryanOnofre]

I watched the whole vid and I like this type of informational content more. For example, I knew that the geometry of the bell crank did something important for the motion ratio, but I didn’t have more than that vague idea. This helped me learn more about cantilever suspension, and how it actually works. Can’t wait to learn more, thanks for the vids.

[@8bithavok]

Words can't describe how much I love this car. Everything about it has been done just perfectly. Possibly the best looking race car I've ever seen, and one of the best liveries as well.

[@Teems-o9h]

Careful with the dry break fittings on vital fluids as they have a lower flow rate than a standard fitting. There are other companies that offer a high flow dry break if you’re set on it. I would get flow rates or bench test it yourself to insure the flow rates are ideal prior to installing.

[@stevenpike7530]

I’m loving the fluid hose connector thingy(s)…magic.

[@戴紀煬]

It would be a great opportunity to design progressive spring rate/motion rate for the front suspension. Softer spring rate for initial travel to handle small pumps and harder for hard braking and at high speed when the aero load Is pushing the front end down.

[@scotth7686]

I think the geometry of the bellcrank looks pretty close to optimal. The flatter the angle is of the pushrod, the more leverage the LCA has and that bellcrank design takes some of that leverage away, bringing the motion ratio closer to equal. It will be interesting to see how close this estimate is after you’ve done the math.

[@woodzy575]

There is a way F1 does that suspension where the shocks are floating on opposite ends of a teeter totter with another spring for a sway damper Or how the radical SR1 runs a sway bar. fun stuff!

[@djditty8012]

I just wanted to let you know what an inspiration and a frustration you are in my life. 😂 I am very much a beginner at fabrication, welding, etc…. I watch your videos and I’m inspired to work on my own projects, but then I’m frustrated at the same time because I have no idea what I’m doing. But, I have to remind myself that you didn’t know what you were doing at one point either and that I need to practice and take risks to grow my skills. All that to say I’ve enjoyed your content for a long time, both on your website years ago with all the pictures of different builds and all your KZbin content. Keep up the great work!

[@spiroskatsikas]

Your two shock absorbers in the centre and use a steel beam or rod going up to bean above is light and strong

[@thatautomotiveblog]

Make your life a bit easier with the scanner and get you some AESUB spray. Love the progress!

[@Pstaines439]

Nice one Mike. Good to see the 308 again. Loving the idea of inboard suspension at the front.

[@__-vb3ht]

I actually love things like the control panel, the steering wheel hook or the quick disconnect oil lines. This stuff never gets listed on a spec sheet, it doesn't show up on a dyno. Someone could build a 308 with a bazillion hp that looks more impressive on paper, but if you were to see both cars next to each other, you could tell which one is more matured and developed by details such as this.

[@barrycross2909]

Hi Mike, great to see more Ferrari content! Just one quick clarification though - changing to a push (or pull) rod setup does not reduce unsprung weight. This is a horrible term that is misleading to a lot of people. Every item of mass that needs to move with the wheel in response to an applied force at the tire is unsprung - generally to a point halfway along the spring. The pushrod and bellcrank therefore add to the unsprung mass. The advantage you will get from a good motion ratio with the correct rising rate will more than overcome this small drawback though.

[@t4tonka]

Is it me or does the video being exactly 20 minutes long feel so perfect for Mike? 😊

[@Kaclaytor]

Well he fumbled, because it is 19:59.

[@zanerasmussen8889]

He needed it to be exact so he could send it to “send-cut-send”

[@t4tonka]

@@zanerasmussen8889 😂👍

[@MegamanEXEv2]

@@zanerasmussen8889💀💀💀

[@ExileXCross]

bruh, too long it was a 20min commercial.

[@mrvapor4791]

Stance Works indeed.. that is one of the best looking cars I have ever seen.

[@joshs199]

I love this build.! It's awesome to see to see this car back on the channel...!!!

[@SteveKemper]

Why was I most excited about quick-release, no-spill AN fittings? I don't know, but that's some cool engineering.

[@Nihil1st1347]

My congrats to the new push rod setup in the front. Not only does it look better. It's because race car.

[@Wayne_Nero]

Nice to see this car series back in action. Im gonna try H&R parts on my Mustang. Props to your sponsor!!

[@hedrives]

This build hits all my sweet spots being an old track rat. Plus, I was always a suspension nerd... Thanks, Mike, for sharing this with us all.

[@joshjerauld1727]

I always say the scan data is scaffolding that you build from. Great work! Even if it's overkill for the job, using all the tools makes you more capable!

[@info1418]

Damn, those fittings are total game changers! I wanna swap that onto every hose i have.

[@nicksalzke9729]

So happy to see the Ferrari back in the feed! Love seeing Mike with his ultimate creation, love the approach to the build, I have missed these videos! Thankyou Mike!

[@turtturt235]

I really hope you choose to show the math that goes into this suspension design. Car stuff is how I motivate to get school work done and seeing the math Im learning applied to something I love would be super cool and inspiring.

[@barfmeister8509]

Oh, wow! This new front suspension sounds like a right bit of kit. This’ll be great content for my interest 👍👍

[@grahamrobson9292]

We need a review on the gearbox failure as well as the engine it’s very interesting content.

[@arisd.o.s6672]

The suspension bit reminds of a episode from 'Salvage to Savage' with theirs Electric Squarebody C10 build. i think its the episode 25? They had to rebuild it because the high horse power or torque was to high for a 'normal type' suspension i think.

[@itstanced]

Small and big changes. They’re all progress. Looking forward to the future front suspension episode!

[@ZeGermanHam]

Always love a 308 episode comes along, and I really appreciate the deep dive on the technical aspects of the build journey.

[@rocketsurgeon11]

I'm sure you already have considered it, but don't forget about the heat extraction duct in the hood. It might have some interference with the new suspension components.

[@primalbeans]

You can actually slice your scan to pick up features, surfaces, hole locations, etc.

[@paulwhite7475]

Machine your bell cranks to incorporate eccentric bushes so it's possible to fine tune the ratio .

[@gburtch2440]

I smiled when i saw your vid posted as its what I'm dealing with on my 80s Parati, even Cantilever suspension on a frame that was never designed for, will be a challenge not to mention the apparent 2:1 ratio? Hope HR can help in this department for the re-shim compression/dampening. Looking forward to part 2

[@JayHartmann]

Best seires on youtube. Love the bts of thinking and planning through a project.

[@stephengobbi7993]

You can build off the 3d scan data. Create a 3d sketch and select 3 vertices on a surface you want to go off of. Create a plane using those 3 points and start building off that

[@stanceworks]

That’s what I did. I just mean you can’t build off of it directly. It’s for reference only.

[@Kevin_MK7RSR]

I love watching Mikes process, so inspiring! Also, i mean this in the best possible way, it’s nice to see him fail…. So we get to see him and his parts improve. I don’t know why I expected everything to be perfect at the launch of this car, but seeing these challenges unfold is a reminder that you have to work toward perfection. Usually with a lot of issues along the way.

[@forty-glocc]

this is the best build on youtube and i'm glad to have been here since the beginning .. keep it up hommie 👊🏽

[@rolandotillit2867]

Make sure you double check your physical dimensions with your CAD dimensions. It's a simple thing to validate that will give you additional peace of mind.

[@PracticalRecycling101]

That steering wheel hook adaptor is the same as the first thing I designed and made on my 3D printer. And it works. I love my printer.

[@TomHamilton-rg7cp]

Excellent thought leads to excellent content. Nicely done! I saw in your previous track day videos that the car was bouncing thru one of the final corners at a difficult surface part of the track. Everyone out there has to go over that same spot. It's those who have a superior suspension that will make the best out of a difficult spot on any track surface. It's going to lead to the best lap times of course and I'm sure that's your goal. I'm no expert but it looks like you are going down a very sensible path with the front suspension. I can't help but wonder what effect it's going to have on the rear suspension. One challenge at a time. LOL

[@d1specdrifter]

LOve this ferrari build. Best one i have seen on channels.

[@ramonnunez1066]

When you get started building the suspension, I'd *love* if you'd be able to go more in depth if you can; I'm in love with cantilever suspension and I've been trying to absorb all the information I can

[@karlosmuschek]

I love the details in your videos mate As a fabricator I get the way your mind works

[@E30Journey]

Exciting stuff Mike! Looking forward to the progress! Personally, I like seeing the process behind all of this. It should be very helpful to people aspiring to do their own projects, too!

[@Bikini_ST]

I love these engineering/story style videos. Typically, i learn something new or acquire techniques to unique challenges.

[@just-in-time6069]

This is one favorite looking build and something I see with so many people who build 1000 hp hondas and then try to drive them as daily yes cool to have but not a good driver and for guy run scca I find so many over power and then they can't get good times plus find short track races superchargers and a moderate boost rules I always tell people build it to due 3 times power u want if possible and I find hondas every day under 500hp they last if built correctly I find 400hp great street car also having a button for muilt boost levels and tunes a nice also just getting every thing to run cool ive took bone stock car and by doing the junk yard build using other stock but better performance part some hand work and making everything run cooler all on 93 octane and get over hundred hp fun to take something without add one but air intake plus exhaust work just fine tuning what is let on the table factory doesn't allow there's so many little tricks to take any car daily to make it fun u don't always have to have money to have a car be fun ive done a motor swap back in early 90s ford festiva small shit box that was a natural aspirated animal from using stock motor from another car no welder either just find a bigger block 4 to swap that was almost a direct swap and it was some of my fever builds just nasty little sleeper that one few dollars in day and laughed at also until they rode in it the memories of faces when rolling 4 gear burn outs was great all on poor budget just enginuity and love for difference when someone says it can't be done drives me keep up great work and everyone have wonderful day.

[@AlteredCarbons]

yeah boi! i love when we put that thinking cap on and figuring out what where fixing

[@KevskiStyle]

just a though. My theorie is that it isn't the headgasket at all thats the issue, but its actually more to do with the connecting rod to stroke ratio of the four cylinder and the total volume. It's also more to do with the secondary imbalance of a four cylinder. This will get worse the more the connecting rod to stroke ratio is reduced, and boost will make it worse even still. As a reference: K20 has a 86mm stroke K24 has a 99mm stroke I f the rods are equall length, the side load on the bearings will be much higher on the K24. Also the rods see much higher stress loads with the same rod length. I'm not fully into the K engine, so i'm missing the specs of the rod lengths and the height of both blocks, so I cant help you there. But what you need to do is pick the tallest block. If a K24 is physically taller pick the K24 block. If its the same, it doens't matter. Use the internals of the K20, but get the longest rod you can physically fit in the block. That way your engine will live much longer, have less secondairy vibration, longer bearing life and generally less trouble. Thats why motorcycle engines and purpose built racing engines like the F1 engines i used to design have rod stroke ratio of around 2.2 and can rev to the moon. Hope it helps to get the most out of the engine.

[@tinokruhek7659]

Look the KOENIGGSEG TRIPLEX SUSPENSION that shud work in youre case

[@timmason5230]

Thanks Mike!

[@LifeInJambles]

Quick and dirty way to ensure a cleanly rising rate on the pushrod rockers is to have the pushrod perpendicular to the rocker at full droop and the shock perpendicular to the rocker at full bump. Now that I think about it, though, that assumes a vertical pushrod at full droop, and I don't know how that pushrod angle might affect those relationships. Shouldn't really change things on the shock side though, either way.

[@LifeInJambles]

Just intuitively in my head, it should still be mostly right even with the splayed out pushrods, but shouldn't be too hard to figure out, as long as you can make a little rig in fusion or blender or solidworks or whatever though. Generally, with a vertical pushrod I've found the ratio of lengths of the two sides of the rockers to more or less correspond to the motion ratio of the rocker and you just add in the ratio from the mounting point, but with your pushrod tipped over like that, you'd have to also multiply by the ratio from the angle.

[@davidsawyer1599]

I have a life. A little late to the goings on. I do like the show and tell. It's your car. It needs to suit you. Very interested in the solutions to come. All the best to you.

[@turbo_brian]

Aluminum welds are usually a bad idea in load bearing applications. Cracked right where you'd expect.

[@ShiroArctic]

Cannot wait to see how this thing does with the new suspension!

[@BPayne]

I'm a big proponent of quality of life improvements. Anything you can do to improve your experience in the car is a win and worth the time and effort.

[@1one3_Racing]

XF Motorsport did some really awesome cantilever suspension

[@JohneeB]

Happy to have the Ferrari back on the active project list, I came to your channel during its build. But I have been waiting for the completion of the truck, did I miss something?

[@ov3rdos311]

Dear lord that livery...amazing.

[@discostu7278]

Good to see the Ferrari back. And some quality Aussie cleaning products 😄

[@EpilepticNinja24]

MIKE I'm with you small Details Matter.

[@philiphomburger]

small things like the steering wheel hook make it your car. it isn't just a racecar you own its a car you've built for yourself.

[@olliebrown89]

Nice video Mike. Love a bit of 3D scanning

[@Tombichrist110]

Think about adding a coolant pressure sensor so you can detect possible head gasket failure

[@GM-fh5jp]

Glad to see a new Ferrari episode...thnaks for posting, Mike.

[@KurtAndresKA]

Its happening guys

[@Feremenco]

love to have you back, looking forwards to see the end results! :)

[@opt123123]

If you dig around you'll find lots of people who have had head gasket failures from 4 piston sleeve installs. My 4p died the same way