How Good is Luis Arraez ACTUALLY?

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@Luke.Cooking
@Luke.Cooking 5 күн бұрын
My goodness, u have the golden voice
@Cornwall1298
@Cornwall1298 15 күн бұрын
The interesting thing with the potential Yankees trade for Arraez - is that it just seems utterly antithetical to what the Yankees are looking at doing this offseason. Losing out on Soto, the shift was to fixing issues with the 2024 team - baserunning and defense. Trading for Arraez makes no sense with that ethos.
@chuco6010
@chuco6010 15 күн бұрын
Bro struck out less than 30 times in nearly 700 PLATE APPEARANCES! That is pretty damn valuable in my mind. Teams just don’t use him correctly, he should be batting 3rd not 1st
@JackGeezy
@JackGeezy 15 күн бұрын
Lol RBI singles
@baseballworldwide9439
@baseballworldwide9439 15 күн бұрын
@@JackGeezylol you never played
@baseballworldwide9439
@baseballworldwide9439 15 күн бұрын
It’s also immensely valuable for the entertainment aspect of the game. You can’t tell me people wouldn’t rather watch players make more contact and have constant action compared to 15 strikeouts and a couple homers. It’s boring. We need more players like arraez
@JackGeezy
@JackGeezy 15 күн бұрын
@@baseballworldwide9439 So he has 2 guys on base, RBI single got it smh
@JackGeezy
@JackGeezy 15 күн бұрын
@@baseballworldwide9439 I don't think you understand the concept of baseball 🤣🤣🤡🤡
@baseballworldwide9439
@baseballworldwide9439 15 күн бұрын
The problem is that so many are incapable of looking beyond the numbers to see the intangibles. I say this as a young fan, not some boomer yearning for the good ole days or whatever. Being able to make contact is valuable for reasons beyond just getting on base. For example, in a scenario in the bottom of the 9th with the tying run at 3rd and 2 outs, do you want a slugger who hits .220 at the plate and strikes out a lot? Or do you want a guy like arraez? Is there a stat for that? It’s also good for the game from an entertainment perspective to have guys that put the ball in play a lot compared to striking out multiple times a night. It makes for a more exciting game, and I’d love for someone to challenge this assertion. It’s self-evident. I can keep going if anyone is interested, but I’m assuming nobody is going to read this since the video is a few days old now
@TheHappyWhale
@TheHappyWhale 15 күн бұрын
It's true that you probably do want Arraez up in the specific situation you mentioned (in most cases), but that is not what WAR or analytics are meant to measure. It isn't, "who is better at this AB," it's "who is providing more value to a team over the course of an entire season." I could argue that instead of having Arraez up in that situation, I could have a guy like Kyle Schwarber. He is only a .250 avg batter but his OBP is 20 points higher than Arraez and he hit 38 HR last year, so numbers-wise, wouldn't he be a better option? If it is the case that you want still Arraez up in this scenario, wouldn't it make more sense to have him pinch hit so you could guarantee it? It's not like he's providing any defense. Stepping back from that specific scenario, what does Arraez do besides hit for average? No power, negative defender (at a premium power position), not very speedy, and has good, but not great, on base percentage. What intangibles does he bring? He isn't drawling a ton of walks or stealing many bases. If I'm a pitcher, I know I can just attack Arraez in the zone because he isn't a power threat, so he isn't that effective at driving up pitch count. It sounds like I'm hating on the guy, but I'm not trying too. I agree that he is very fun to watch because he is a novelty in today's game. Guys don't really hit for average anymore so it's fun to see someone who does. That being said, I don't think it's wrong to point out that he is a one-tool player that, while deserving of being a major leaguer, is not particularly valuable to a team's success.
@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo
@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo 15 күн бұрын
Problem is he doesn't hit extra base hits, hes a terrible baserunner, and his defense is league worse. You can hit singles all you want but it doesn't mean a thing if you can't score and you're costing your team runs elsewhere.
@cococock2418
@cococock2418 15 күн бұрын
What intangibles? He is a completely one dimensional player, and that one dimension he has is one that isn’t even the best dimension to have. You can list these ridiculous situations that never happen all you want. Nothing fun at all about watching weak, powerless hitters, especially at a lower position like 1b
@KOCChristian
@KOCChristian 15 күн бұрын
It’s team sport why nerds like me aren’t coaches. It knowing skill and player in success. Lead off hitter is often balance hitter and 3-4 hitter are power bat who can drive runs. People need stop the bashing and understand it’s a team sport
@misterdarwin
@misterdarwin 15 күн бұрын
100% agree that contact and average have value. However, so do patience, baserunning, catching, throwing, and power. A player who is only good at one of those things is likely hurting the team more than helping. In the case of the Yankees (who reportedly are interested in trading for him), their poor infield defense and poor baserunning were an achilles heel last season. They can make do with less power and patience from Arraez because the rest of the lineup tends to bring that to the game, but I am not sure they can afford another bad defender at second or a singles hitter who goes station to station.
@verbalkint5450
@verbalkint5450 4 күн бұрын
I'm old enough to remember Rod Carew, also a former Twin. Hit more than 11 homers once, but in 19 seasons averaged .328. He was held in great esteem, probably too much since he, like Arraz, hit few extra base hits, and drove in few RBI's, for 1bman.. Also started as a 2b man. Was living in SoCal, as he played several years as a Halo, which probably shouldn't have been as a starter, up to age 39.
@schlootle
@schlootle 16 күн бұрын
Arraez has only had maybe 1 bad season. Over 2021, 2022 and 2023 he put together 12.5 WAR. And surprisingly his only -dWAR season aside from his rookie year was 2024. He had a down year, but he is extremely valuable as a player
@Arminian100
@Arminian100 15 күн бұрын
I think this is the start of a correct, nuanced take. The swing level data is important. I think Arraez was hampered by injuries in 24 and it should be seen as an outlier in that regard and provide hope he can be more valuable on the bases and fielding in the future, and provide a touch more pop. However, his approach has gotten much worse and will hurt his value long term if he doesn't fix it. He swings at far too many bad pitches, ultimately trading walks for bad contact. That's a recipe for disaster long term. He has to fix it.
@schlootle
@schlootle 15 күн бұрын
@Arminian100 i agree with that. We all know he basically has a net neutral glove and cannot steal bases. I also agree his big flaw is that he never draws walks. If he had even a league average walk rate then his OBP would be sitting at around .400~. I just hate to see everyone and their momma dogging on Arraez for having a down year. I would also make the claim that he was never overrated. We all know exactly what to expect from him
@KOCChristian
@KOCChristian 15 күн бұрын
Honestly he’s playing for Padres, remember Soto was terrible left and now paid 750million
@schlootle
@schlootle 15 күн бұрын
@KOCChristian Eh, I wouldn't call Soto's stint in San Diego terrible. He had career average numbers in 2023, and it's hard to value 1/3rd of the season after a trade in 2022. He definitely ate his Wheaties with the Yankees though
@tourpS
@tourpS 15 күн бұрын
San Diego loves Arraez and he did pretty well considering he had thumb ligament issues throughout the year. You could visibly see him wince in pain when he made contact. Horrid defense too, with a terrible stretch at first base. I hope we trade him away so the Padres can re-sign Profar or something lol. This is a cool channel, I will subscribe. Please make more videos if you can!
@Arminian100
@Arminian100 15 күн бұрын
He seems like a super likable guy. Everyone fan base he has played for loves him. Teammates speak sky high about him. I also think his thumb is a good explainer for part of his drop in production this year. But his approach has really gone to shit. 😊
@RuBiCaNT5X
@RuBiCaNT5X 15 күн бұрын
Perfectly summed up. Amazing batting talent. Horrible on the other side of the ball. Would be a perfect fit for NYY if we didn't have Stanton at DH.
@koiturnbull5700
@koiturnbull5700 15 күн бұрын
Can you break down JEFF MCNEIL!!!?????? I think he’s one of the greatest hitters and has had the most dissappointing two seasons. Please break him down
@stevenmostyn4681
@stevenmostyn4681 15 күн бұрын
Please think of this he got those numbers while injured for 4 months! Great time for someone to buy low on Arraez. I think he is closer to 2023 then 2024!
@Ghxst12
@Ghxst12 15 күн бұрын
He lost my respect for sitting the final few games just so he wouldn’t lose the batting title
@aidenawe9359
@aidenawe9359 15 күн бұрын
I don’t think he sat out the last few games. Dude was battling a wrist injury for most of the 2nd half of the season
@7B7E7N7
@7B7E7N7 14 күн бұрын
This is false, he did not sit out the last few games.
@albertonovas18
@albertonovas18 14 күн бұрын
In summary, he needs to focus on taking more quality at-bats and seeing more pitches. This approach will enhance his on-base percentage (OBP) and could potentially lead to an even higher batting average. Additionally, by observing more pitches, he can draw more walks, further improving his overall performance.
@RecruiterMan81
@RecruiterMan81 14 күн бұрын
To put it succinctly. He's a one dimensional player. Elite contact skills but that's it. He doesn't walk much, he's not good defensively, doesn't steal bases and don't hit for power. He's not a modern day tony gwynn. Tony was an excellent defensive player and he could steal bases. You have to be good at more than one thing to be a great player.
@miguelschoedel7691
@miguelschoedel7691 15 күн бұрын
Awesome video
@Twicelovetwicelife
@Twicelovetwicelife 15 күн бұрын
I’m a padre fan, he’s over rated. Every stat proves it, one star player at most
@pasdan4985
@pasdan4985 14 күн бұрын
I think theres a big issue with a lot of the discussion in the comments The thing that’s the problem with arraez isnt really the bat, it’s that the bat is all he has. The reason he puts up 1 WAR isnt because of his hitting, its because he provides no baserunning value and is a pretty seriously minus defender. Discussions about the value of batting him 3rd are good and all but dont really deal with the core of the conversation which is that he’s a one tool guy currently (in past seasons he’s been above average defensively which is why those seasons have WAR numbers that dont make people argue)
@Il_Exile_lI
@Il_Exile_lI Күн бұрын
His batting style is not being used to its fullest with him hitting leadoff. I understand the instinct to put a slap hitter in the leadoff spot, but we know better than that now. His good but not great OBP is not the right fit for leadoff, where instead he should be put in a position more likely to bring him up with runners on base. Since he can almost be guaranteed to put the ball in play, he's an ideal to player to have up in situations with men on, especially since those the situations where a walk isn't as good as a hit. It may seem crazy to old school baseball thinking, but I honestly think he'd be more valuable as a clean up hitter.
@zqrahll
@zqrahll 14 күн бұрын
Unlike Arraez, Tony Gwynn in his prime was a plus defender, could run, and had more pop.
@MarkEnglish-r4h
@MarkEnglish-r4h 15 күн бұрын
I’m a big fan. Reminds me of a old school baseball player
@AJ_Osser
@AJ_Osser 15 күн бұрын
Luis Arráez is great at 1 of the 5 tools a player need. But let face it….he’s terrible al the other 4.
@andrewsells3420
@andrewsells3420 15 күн бұрын
I think he’s an amazing hitter, he’s just not as valuable as a player due to his defense, speed, and power🤷🏼‍♂️
@civil_leuthie
@civil_leuthie 15 күн бұрын
Arraez had a 4.9 WAR 2 years ago. 4.2 the year before that. If he hits over .330, he's valuable on every team. If he doesn't, he doesn't have anything else to make up for it. Hitting .318 with an abysmal chase rate at mostly 1B and DH in 2024 severely lowered his value. I'm positive he'll hit .333+ with a much lower chase rate and a much higher WAR in 2025, although he'll probably still be 1B and DH.
@ozzuzzomg
@ozzuzzomg 14 күн бұрын
he had a high war becuase he still hit a few homers and his ba was sky high, him at 330 isn't much he needs 350
@ShawneyySlime
@ShawneyySlime 15 күн бұрын
If we can just trade Stroman . We can DH Arraez give Stanton more time off, we know he’s going to get hurt (we need him for the playoffs) and let Oswald get a real chance at 3rd.
@alexalmond6862
@alexalmond6862 15 күн бұрын
A lot of y’all are commenting before watching the video lmao
@TheSoxor123
@TheSoxor123 15 күн бұрын
Whats stopping Arraez from hitting for power? Why doesnt he hit the weight room and hit for more homers?
@BostonBori92
@BostonBori92 14 күн бұрын
​@cliftonbennett6420 I wouldn't say on purpose lol he's not a big guy and he doesn't have long arms..,hitting the way he does is the most effective way for him to hit the ball hard so while intentional yes he does it because he has no choice 😂
@grandhusslemonster
@grandhusslemonster 10 күн бұрын
There’s plenty of guys of Arraez’s size or smaller that hit for power. Luis doesn’t hit for power because he lacks the plate discipline to do so.
@BostonBori92
@BostonBori92 10 күн бұрын
@@grandhusslemonster check back the arm sizes of those guys that you are talking about I'm sure for their size they have long arms Luis for his size has short arms that's why no matter how hard he hits the ball he'll never be able to drive it for alot of power
@pistolrx9313
@pistolrx9313 15 күн бұрын
Thank you
@hooptie6312
@hooptie6312 15 күн бұрын
Why do all the baseball KZbinrs make the same video right after each other. It’s so obvious lol. There’s been 3 arraez vids all within 2 days saying the same thing. Unoriginal.
@oscargoat2.010
@oscargoat2.010 15 күн бұрын
Most underrated player in a long time
@jaypee1010
@jaypee1010 14 күн бұрын
It appears this guy is a very good hitter but utilized incorrectly and may need some 1 on 1 attention.
@DipreG
@DipreG 15 күн бұрын
Fam, you were born to make money off your voice.
@austinrodriguez4272
@austinrodriguez4272 13 күн бұрын
He’s a great hitter that’s it lol
@SO-if3yn
@SO-if3yn 16 күн бұрын
Dude I thought I was subbed, my bad G. Keep crushing🫡
@plastic_ben
@plastic_ben 14 күн бұрын
I am convinced that padres fans know absolutely nothing about baseball
@Hyrule-Kight
@Hyrule-Kight 12 күн бұрын
Bad take, terrible.
@grandhusslemonster
@grandhusslemonster 10 күн бұрын
Eh, most fans will big up the players on their team.
@gaugemcintyre5098
@gaugemcintyre5098 14 күн бұрын
oh man another unoriginal video about luis
@dankexposed305
@dankexposed305 16 күн бұрын
I will not tolerate Arraez slander
@cococock2418
@cococock2418 15 күн бұрын
Because you don’t know baseball.
@makattack930
@makattack930 15 күн бұрын
He had 1.1 WAR he gets a lot of hits but they are all singles and he never walks
@Alex.Jensen
@Alex.Jensen 15 күн бұрын
Sabermetrics are overrated. The nerds don't know enough about playing baseball. Arraez is a fantastic contact hitter.
@dr.smiley2327
@dr.smiley2327 9 күн бұрын
@@Alex.Jensen😂😂
@danielmulato4184
@danielmulato4184 10 күн бұрын
Bro is the worst average player
@CarloFerraro
@CarloFerraro 15 күн бұрын
Too many stats and the results suck. Batting titles define a player, Boggs, Carew, Gwynn... it reminds me what astrophysics do, they notice a perturbance, they put math in there and it then exists. This is BASEBALL, shit!
@Padres-Win
@Padres-Win 16 күн бұрын
Why is everyone making videos on how arraez is “not valuable” because he doesn’t hit homers
@sir.muffiniii7011
@sir.muffiniii7011 16 күн бұрын
Because all he does it get singles, he gets on base and an above average clip but it’s nothing crazy, he has no pop, chases a lot which leads to weak contact which makes easy outs, doesn’t walk, horrible defence and baserunning, etc
@Baseballify
@Baseballify 16 күн бұрын
@@sir.muffiniii7011fr this guy dosent understand the videos it’s not the just the Homeruns
@EpticityOG
@EpticityOG 16 күн бұрын
Typical Biased Padres fan, probably thinks the Machado deal is a steal too lol
@rupert_1491
@rupert_1491 15 күн бұрын
He also doesn’t walk, can play defense, and can’t run but that’s fine as long as there’s power bat right behind him (Aaron judge)
@eddief9254
@eddief9254 15 күн бұрын
The guy can hit, he has a playable glove. He's pretty cheap compared to salaries now. I'll bat him 9th in a giants uniform. Lee already bat's lead-off
@chrissanborn1678
@chrissanborn1678 15 күн бұрын
Is every baseball channel copying each other or are we just down to AI generated baseball slop? All three of you made the same video within days of each other. Lazy.
@jumomediacorp
@jumomediacorp 14 күн бұрын
is baseball becoming a defensive game? defense is more important than the avg?
@Jkend199
@Jkend199 15 күн бұрын
Arrez is the best hitter in baseball. PERIOD. Tony Gwynn was the best hitter in baseball in his time. I HATE the "modern" ideal of hit the ball as hard as you can, it results in batting averages of .225 and BA with RISP of .190 WORST BASEBALL I HAVE EVER SEEN. So many strikeouts, so many fly ball outs... so few base runners... SO LITTLE ACTION, the entire game is waiting for someone to hit a fucking home run, it is the worst baseball to watch that I have ever seen... The NBA did this a few years ago, went to 40% of the shots being taken from 3, now it's more like 50% and guess what, the NBA is dying, cuz it isn't fun to watch... 8 innings of NOTHING... waiting for someone to hit a homerun is FUCKING BORING. If baseball stays on this path with more and more Pete Alonso, and batting avg's continue to get lower and lower baseball will die, cuz it will be too boring to watch. I HATE THIS HOMERUN DERBY SHIT AND I DONT CARE IF IT WORKS, ITS NOT FUN TO WATCH.
@dtc8249
@dtc8249 15 күн бұрын
I'm with you. I actually want the fences moved BACK to encourage more contact, gap hits, baserunning, outfielder plays. The most exciting plays in the game of baseball are triple and inside the park homers. Old-time baseball must have been unreal with all the huge fields and low K rates.
@Jkend199
@Jkend199 15 күн бұрын
@@dtc8249 The late 90's to early 2000's was a great time to be a fan, the league avg was 30 pts higher than it is now, players who couldn't hit 250 didn't play... the action was constant, there was always something happening... every inning. Baseball was fun. I do not want to see a game with 8+ innings of 3 base runners and 0 money hits with 30 combined strikeouts... that is what baseball has become and its unwatchable... Tony Gwynn was AMAZING, almost never struck out, always put the ball in play, he was fun to watch, when he was playing baseball was fun to watch...
@matthewbrault5666
@matthewbrault5666 15 күн бұрын
You should see this Aaron Judge guy
@dr.smiley2327
@dr.smiley2327 9 күн бұрын
Awful take but I get it ur stuck in the old ages
@Yankster-02-27
@Yankster-02-27 15 күн бұрын
YANKEES HAVE TO GET HIM..COME ON CASHMANNN DO IT AND SIGN ROKI SASAKIIII
@EnriqueLopez-yd9xt
@EnriqueLopez-yd9xt 15 күн бұрын
Lol
@PrimarySweeper13
@PrimarySweeper13 15 күн бұрын
The issue with WAR can be seen easily with Arraez. A guy who leads the league in hits is more valuable than a guy who leads the league in walks. Simple as that
@Arminian100
@Arminian100 15 күн бұрын
Except, they aren't. Zero data shows that to be true.
@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo
@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo 15 күн бұрын
When all your hits are singles, walks are more valuable because it takes more pitches to walk someone. Hitting singles means nothing if you cant score.
@cococock2418
@cococock2418 15 күн бұрын
Except that is laughably untrue lmao. Man these old school contact hitting loving clowns are in such denial.
@Arminian100
@Arminian100 15 күн бұрын
@@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo eh. No. Technically speaking, singles lead to more runs than walks do. Linear weights show this year over year. Also, OPS makes this pretty obvious. But due to the fact that no league leaders get singles or walks in a vacuum, someone leading the league in walks is doing a lot more than a singles guy.
@gregb675
@gregb675 16 күн бұрын
Was really hoping the Yanks would get Lux. I don't hate the idea of an automatic baserunner for a Judge AB tho
@sir.muffiniii7011
@sir.muffiniii7011 16 күн бұрын
If you want an automatic baserunner you might as well get someone with a better OBP
@Arminian100
@Arminian100 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately, Arraez isn't that. His OBP isn't amazing.
@cococock2418
@cococock2418 15 күн бұрын
Automatic base runner where? The guy batted an insane average with an extremely mid OBP. He isn’t good.
@prestonbucher18
@prestonbucher18 15 күн бұрын
I’m not an old man but I’m not a young man, either. I’m just a life long baseball fan that prefers the style of hitting of guys like Luis Arraez over guys like Kyle Schwarber (no offense, Kyle). For me as a fan……There is nothing I despise more than the strikeout, walk, home run hell baseball offenses have become. I don’t want to see guys batting .214 with 190 strikeouts. I don’t care if he hits 35 home runs. Its boring. I can’t stand strikeouts and I can’t stomach that guys are indifferent to it. I will always prefer the guys that put the ball in play. As a fan….It’s action and it can be unpredictable…..And for a sport like baseball……Predictability is the last thing you should want if you’re trying to sell a product….Unfortunately, that’s what 3 “true” outcome is…..
@Arminian100
@Arminian100 15 күн бұрын
@@prestonbucher18 you win more game when your outcomes are predictable. That's the nature of analytics.
@bigjared8946
@bigjared8946 15 күн бұрын
In the era of modern modern pitching and bullpens it can be exceedingly difficult to string 3 singles together in an inning just to a run or two. The way guys hit now is a response to what pitching has become as much as it is a response to analytics.
@xxxjoeflores68
@xxxjoeflores68 15 күн бұрын
Luiz is a fantastic player and as a padre fan I hope we keep him longterm
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