The Horrifying Case of Beautiful Jennie Cramer

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The Case of Beautiful Jennie Cramer also known as the Belle of New Haven in 19th Century USA
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[@historyprofiles]

Thank you for the honor of letting me narrate of your channel!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

It was good to have such a great channel as History Profiles narrating on Brief Case, thankyou for agreeing to do it :)

[@jenniehughes6927]

@@BriefCaseOfficial I appreciate that you pronounce my name correctly.

[@meemurthelemur4811]

What a treat to see you here HP!🦋🌈🦄🐱🥐🍫☕🤗🥰💘

[@Samanthajustinapoliti]

You did a great job well done I really appreciate it and I also enjoy your channel HP

[@gregdiiamond3899]

Great job!

[@tamsin1969]

That is so tragic. Her parents both died as a result of grief and her sisters were left alone, and the Malleys threw a party?? What evil people.

[@gypsysoul5172]

They were celebrating getting away with murder.

[@jasonwilliams573]

This was a rough one. Even 150 years later, you can feel the sting of unresolved justice. It must have been unbearable for the Cramer family and the rest of the community. Also noticeable was the disconnect between the rich and the not-rich. The not-guilty party was in terrible taste. Thank you Brief Case and History Profiles... I'll be giving you a follow.

[@stacyrussell460]

History Profiles has very interesting & detailed videos. Love their channel.

[@kitiyana]

How sinister that the Malley company should prosper for over 100 years. Rich vs poor rarely see equality in justice. So disappointing. 😢

[@jasonwilliams573]

@@kitiyana That's it right there. Very relevant, still.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

@@stacyrussell460 Well, I love BC and this isn't it!!!

[@stacyrussell460]

@@lazyhomebody1356 well then feel free to skip the video.

[@annacris1005]

I was born and raised in New Haven, and went many times to Malleys department store with my mother in the 1950’s. I had never heard of this story and I found it very interesting.

[@tmmears]

when he mentioned savin rock, I immediately thought of jimmie’s.

[@sandisteinberg731]

I also grew up in New Haven in the 1950s 60s and half of the 1970s, and I too, never heard this.

[@annacris1005]

Oh loved Jimmies!!!

[@annacris1005]

Do you still live in Connecticut, I do!

[@sandisteinberg731]

@@annacris1005 No, I moved to the Washington, D.C. area in the mid-1970s. I live in Arlington VA, now, but I belong to the online groups for New Haven people. I went to Barnard, Troup, and Hillhouse.

[@itakelly8150]

Isn't it awful to think, that this is so relatable to our times?

[@dinahbrown902]

It happens time and time again. I believe in the end no one gets away with anything 😊

[@kathyscorner4917]

I was thinking same...😥

[@zoeyrochellezhombie829]

No, because humans never change. Times do, but people don't.

[@donnarogers7732]

Z😊

[@inthestruggle2197]

I was thinking this too

[@yveys8885]

On this dangerously cold NYC day, nothing makes me happier then seeing a new BC upload on my morning commute. Thank you for all the high quality entertainment!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening :)

[@aaronburratwood.6957]

I hear that & I concur.

[@crabstick250]

Agreed!! It is like a warm cup of tea or coffee on this hideously brittle nyc morning. My face hurts but I am warmed by a creepy tale...

[@matthewguay3266]

Nothing makes you happier then a tale of death and murder? So glad i didn't ask you to the high school dance. Very disturbing...

[@JaimeMesChiens]

@@matthewguay3266 many find these old stories about legal procedure quite interesting.

[@DamonNomad82]

This case is even sadder than most on this channel, due to the fates of the Cramers and the fact that the killer(s) were never brought to justice. While it's important to remember that we don't and can't have the whole story, it sounds from what we do know that three vile individuals got away with murder because the family of two of them were rich enough to afford top-end liars/lawyers...

[@lorireed8046]

Yup... Still happening in 2023. Pelosi family, Clinton's and Obama's.

[@58christinekay]

I'd never heard of this fascinating case before. What a tragic story - not just the unsolved death of a young lady, but the suicide of both her parents. It struck me that there are parallels between this case and that of Mary Rogers. She was (it is said) a beautiful young woman who also worked in a cigar store. Her body was found in the Hudson River, and treated as a murder, which was also unsolved. Edgar Allan Poe knew Miss Rogers slightly, and based his short story The Murder of Marie Roget on the case, changing the names of those involved and the setting from NYC to Paris. He claimed he had worked out what happened purely by reading the newspaper accounts of the murder. However, according to one theory, the true killer was Poe himself! I personally don't agree with this idea, but it would be very clever on his part to blame someone else by writing a story about the crime to deflect attention away from him. By the way, thank you for such a great episode. Brief Case is always worth watching.

[@cyankirkpatrick5194]

Maybe he over heard the killer/killer's brag about killing her and wasn't sure in the party that was the actual killer,or maybe killers I mean gang 🤬 isn't a new concept either.

[@LilyS1031]

Wow, I haven't read 'Marie Roget' since I was a kid. Time to re-read it! Thanks for the interesting remarks. 👍

[@lindaarrington9397]

Me either

[@carolynsville9915]

@Cyan Kirkpatrick he did spend a lot of time in bars, and that is where a lot of people drag.

[@bettyc.parker-young1437]

@@carolynsville9915 Yes they drag a leg and brag!😂😂😂😂👍

[@lunab.1136]

I’m grateful that there are people out there that actually care enough about history to share these stories…

[@dkcorderoyximenez3382]

Unfortunately it has never been easy to convict defendants with deep pockets...Genetics may have changed that somewhat but generally it still holds true.....

[@addie_is_me]

oh, it holds true alright, but now we have science so it is harder for even wealthy people to always walk.

[@express777100]

@@addie_is_me science can allways be tampered with when money is about.

[@tessaducek5601]

What would happen if everybody had their needs taken care of and there was no need for money. Wonder how despicable wealthy criminals would buy their way out harsh sentences. I know, Fantasy.

[@express777100]

You don’t need money,property is just as good.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

@@tessaducek5601 Read the Dr Suess book about Sneetches. In their society everyone is treated equally. But there is a human need to be better than the neighbors, to be superior and envied, so the Sneetches with stars on their bellies come to be considered superier. Then-- but read it!

[@lovingmayberry307]

Poor Mr. and Mrs. Cramer! Justice was not served in this case. Great narration History Profiles!

[@janedoefamily6458]

There is a book called " Arsenic Under the Elms" by Virginia McConnell that details this case. I read it recently and it made my blood boil. I fully believe that the accused got away with murder.

[@marievassell4765]

Yes !!! He did!!!

[@norarae4427]

Did he sexually assault her?

[@martinwarner1178]

How times has a parent told their offspring, "You are hanging around with the wrong crowd" pity for the Cramer family. The other family were just knaves. Peace be unto you.

[@Curlyblonde]

"Bad association spoil useful habits".

[@annavafeiadou4420]

Thank you for this case. Rich people get away with anything through the centuries , sickening!!!

[@casualeann]

and it hasn't changed!

[@ghostcityshelton9378]

On the day/night of JUDGEMENT BEFORE GOD ,,,, I believe no fancy lawyers will get you 'off' 'IF' you're truely gulity ... That's my befief anyway.

[@gaylaroof612]

@@ghostcityshelton9378 we will ALL stand before God, & give account for our lives. This is my only hope for the people who, "get away with murder" (or treason, or any other nefarious thing they have done).

[@ktloz2246]

Poor people to, just depends on how smart they were about it.

[@perusevintage8460]

Thank you so much for covering this! I feel an unexplainable connection to this case since leaning about it. I live locally and pass her gravesite daily- I have brought her (and her family buried with her) flowers the past 2 summers around the anniversary of her death. I have been researching this case the past 2 years as I am compiling an extensive blog post. I have dug through historical records to find addresses for all locations involved and visited/ photographed them. I also have a 1871 print of the poem written about her with her portrait. I hope to have it posted in the next few months I do not know why I am so drawn to this, perhaps because we are close in age and from the same area, but I would like to bring some local awareness to the subject, as sexual violence and cover ups are ever present 140 years later. I am heartbroken she and her family never received the justice and answers they deserved.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

So interesting, please let me know when your blog is released

[@annhollowell5352]

That is so nice of you tonolace flowers on the grave of this unfortunate beauty and her parents.

[@phoenixfeathers1232]

Thank you for caring so much about this young lady and her parents, it was very touching to hear what you have done xx

[@shaynechafin3558]

Love this response. I know this is a bit of an old post; but I would love to see your conclusions, results, etc!

[@aimeeprincessofpower]

Brief Case is the only reason I look forward to Mondays, so thank you my week is just not the same without your story is on Mondays ☠️

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

I will be narrating again next week but HP is a great narrator

[@aimeeprincessofpower]

@@BriefCaseOfficial oh absolutely HP is a great narrator I'm subscribed to that channel as well LOL I love all this stuff

[@lazyhomebody1356]

@@BriefCaseOfficial Enjoy your holiday! (I will return next week, but it looks like no one else minds)

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks, this is a very interesting case you are missing and HP is a great narrator, I do however appreciate your support :)

[@littlereddstar5264]

I like that Brief Case has guest narrators from other cool indie channels like History Profiles or Crime Real.

[@addie_is_me]

IKR It's like a family working together and giving props to each other. love that!

[@londonsage8696]

What a sad case. This is what happens when you’re rich. Back then, it almost like the two idiots were the perfect gentlemen. They were nothing but two spoiled killers. Her parents killed themselves just a heart breaking story. Thank You History Profile

[@peggyjaeger9280]

What a sad story. She was quite lovely. It's unfortunate that even to this day the rich are not held accountable for their crimes. Excellent narration by History Profiles . I will have to check out the channel. Thanks, BC and HP!

[@ktkat1949]

Hands up those people who knew from the first time they said the family was the wealthiest in town that they would get off what ever charges there were. Twas ever thus and still goes on today. If you got money, even if you are caught with a smoking gun, you are innocent. I love the part about the defense saying there was no proof she didn't drown when the autopsy showed no water in her lungs or stomach. I wonder how much the jury got paid to come in with the verdict. Probably more than the bribed witnesses. Great video but always leaves me so angry at how the rich can get out of anything because of their money. Grrr! I feel so sorry for her parents but I wonder what happened to the younger sister? Poor girl probably suffered more than the parents did.

[@ktloz2246]

Ya like OJ did. But Poor people can get away with it to, just depends on how smart they were about it.

[@johngalvin6010]

When a suspicious death occurs, the suspects are brought to justice and found not guilty it must be devastating for the family not to know what happened. Both parents taking their lives for the torment they would endure is heartbreaking.

[@AJ12716]

Crazy how this is still relevant to crimes today. The amount of guilty folk walking around free. Poor girl 😢💔♥️🙏

[@pinklady3885]

Hello sweet Ollie. I loved your narration of this tragic case; especially when you put such drama in your voice..... don't, don't. It is truly a terrible murder of an innocent lady. The fact that they got away with murder does make one think that money talks. Oh! Those poor parents committing suicide.... so sad. Thank you so much dear Ollie.I am already a fan of your great channel HP. You have a wonderful voice. 🍎💃😉😜😋😍

[@swymaj02]

Gut wrenching.

[@dixiegeorge9665]

What a creepy ending. Thank you History Profiles and Brief Case.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks Dixie :)

[@kittenwhisperer6408]

Glad you are back! Happy St. Valentine's Day. Thanks for posting!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

I am here every Monday at 12pm UK time :)

[@theoracletempleoflovelight2222]

@@BriefCaseOfficial and 10pm Monday night in Qld Australia 🇦🇺

[@Samanthajustinapoliti]

@@theoracletempleoflovelight2222 and 11pm here in Sydney Australia 🇦🇺 lol I forget you guy’s don’t do day light saving’s

[@Samanthajustinapoliti]

He was never gone

[@kathleencalhoun2225]

Jennie should have listened to her mother, and her mother should have chaperoned any visitations with the Malleys and her daughter herself since her cared a lot about her reputation, not trusting her daughter since she noticed that the first time spent with James didn't go so well. I don't why Jennie didn't know what James was up to herself at that point and avoided him after that. The evidence does appear that the witnesses were bribed and that the two young men got away with Jennie's murder. You could also say that the Malleys were also indirectly responsible for the deaths of her parents as well.

[@Orphen42O]

Jennie may have enjoyed being courted by a relative of one of the wealthiest men in New Haven. Even in the 20th Century, It was not acceptable for young ladies to be out all night . Jennie should have been "grounded" after the first incident. There is no reason to believe James' attentions were honorable. Jennie was possibly foolish and headstrong, but she would not have agreed to any intimacies before marriage. If a respectable girl such as Jennie was raped, it is possible she was murdered to cover up the crime. The Cramers probably blamed themselves for allowing her to see James .

[@khfan4life365]

I did read that Jennie wasn’t extraordinarily smart, even though she wanted to have a good reputation. She most likely ignored her common sense, like so many people sadly do these days.

[@scallopohare9431]

Why didn't Jennie's mother chaperone her daughter?

[@zaidamaganda]

@@scallopohare9431 I think usually a girl's brother or male cousin would chaperone her to events with other young people.

[@scallopohare9431]

@@zaidamaganda Perhaps. Certainly her mother might have done.

[@kerrywatts5740]

What a sad but incredible episode! You did an outstanding job in telling her story. I can only imagine the immense sadness her parents went through and to then take their own life because of the loss of Jenny.

[@VanessaKittredge]

Excellent telling of a tragic story! I didn’t know about this one.. so sad.

[@annewest4979]

So so sad 💔.. One family utterly devastated and destroyed.. The other just carries on regardless.. No amount of money would be enough for me to lie about what I had seen.. Shame on those witnesses 🤬

[@janetpendlebury6808]

It was probably not only money they bribed with, threats to them or family members as well.

[@annewest4979]

@@janetpendlebury6808 oh I know... It was difficult times, power was so unfairly distributed 😥.. And so many stories would never even come to light 💔x

[@addie_is_me]

The partying after the verdict was horrible, shameful, glouting and a punch in the gut of the murdered woman's family. A woman was killed if they are guilty or not.

[@marievassell4765]

@@addie_is_me They were guilty as charged but in those days hence in these days also $money talks and the bullshits about the rich got thrown out the windows and doors and a young lady's murder was swept away 😔

[@barbaraprest783]

Another well told and researched historical crime - thank you 👏👏

[@addie_is_me]

Poison may not be caught when blunt force trauma would be. I agree with you anyway.

[@K-Mariposa]

Thanks for introducing us to another awesome narrator. I’d never heard History Profiles before, and I now have another channel to follow. This was so sad. Poor Jenny and her parents. Riches, power, entitlement and injustice destroyed this poor young lady and her family. Really, really sad story 😞. Thanks for sharing BC. Good night from Australia 🇦🇺.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@larakeller2478]

Karina McKoy: I'm sure James did. The first thought I had when they said he ended up in trouble later for performing an abortion on an eighteen year old girl was that he was probably the father!!

[@larakeller2478]

I apologize, that comment was meant for someone else.

[@dawnkurtz9541]

I’ve done no research, but my father’s mother and grandmother were Cramers from that area. I would not be at all surprised if there isn’t a direct family line. His mother was Ruth Cramer. Her date of birth would’ve been about 1880. So her father would’ve been about 1860. Very interesting! My family lives in Ohio.

[@moomyung9231]

I do genealogy as a habit, so I'll do a little looking around and let you know if I find anything. (Not a scam, I'm doing it fully for fun, I just really love doing genealogy and I'm already done with mine so I look for excuses).

[@moomyung9231]

Ok, so I didn't have any luck on your side, I couldn't find a Ruth Cramer of the right age in Connecticut (since I was working off very little info, it's possible she's there but I didn't find her), but with Jennie Cramer, sometimes the name was spelled Creamer, and her father's full name was Jacob Muller Cramer and was from Denmark or sometimes Germany and naturalized in 1860 - the year of Jennie's birth, while her mother was from Holstein, I'm guessing both parents were from the Schleswig-Holstein area and that's why the uncertainty (Germany's boundaries varied a lot in the 1800s) I found another Jacob Cramer (1843 - 1876) also from Germany about 25 miles away in Middletown who may or may not be connected, and a third (1825-1886) in Hamden, New Haven, with wife Elizabeth. Random side note that may be relevant, it was such an Irish immigrant area at the time that his naturalization was typed and had the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland parts crossed out and replaced with Denmark. Maybe this is helpful, or if not it was a way for me to kill time.

[@Corgio22]

My family are Cramers from Pennsylvania. I do feel a kinship with these poor folks….

[@karenbrown4524]

It was nice hearing a new and lovely sounding voice, so I will take to subscribing to History Profile! We'll never truly know how or who might have ended the very pretty Jennie Cramer's life. One thing we DO know is there has been sinister people committing heinous wrong doings for a good long time. I reckon it means job security for BC, HP, and CR forever!

[@puppylove8076]

Checking out History Profiles now…well done.

[@twilightpurpleglow]

Thank You History Profiles for standing in for Brief case, your voice is clear and pleasant. Very Interesting and sad story. The Malley's destroyed the Cramer family "money talks". Fast forward 100 plus years girls/ladies are still being victimized. A mom can only do so much in educating, but once they are of age many go on to make huge mistakes.Rip the Cramer Family.

[@jamesshaffer206]

It's sad to know she would still go about town after she already knew he was a jerk. I'm not putting blame on her but if you have a gut feeling about somebody,. Your usually right. My heart bleeds for her parents as well as their daughter. They guilty are not worth a mention in my comment. Thank you for your narration of today's story.

[@LifeAdviceSite]

My thoughts exactly. Why did she go out with him again? 😢

[@lisa_of_the_valleys]

Agreed. After the restaurant room incident where Blanche heard her shouting "Don't!" repeatedly, that she'd even speak to him again, especially since she didn't regard him as a catch in the first place is confusing to me...

[@lindaarrington9397]

I think she had no where else to go after her mother kicked her out

[@jamesshaffer206]

@@lisa_of_the_valleysit's hard to tell what anybody would do in that position. She made the wrong decision and paid a high price for it. So sad.

[@jamesshaffer206]

@@lindaarrington9397 my message I just sent was meant to go to you. My eyes are very bad.

[@stacyrussell460]

Two of my favorite channels working together? Yes, please!! Well done, Brief Case & History Profiles!!

[@peaceworld5393]

Hi BC ! Thank you so much for sharing another great old story! Research on these old cases must be hard to find! Have a Wonderful Week ☮️🐝safe ! I thought this voice was familiar! I have been subbbed to history profiles for a while! Thank y’all!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you!

[@Flamsterette]

Happy Valentine's Day 2022! Thank you for the upload and the guest narration. I liked it!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@helenawarsinnak]

As always, another great video!! I truly enjoy watching your videos and learning of cases from the past!! Historic crimes have always fascinated me!!

[@charmainereid7482]

Thank you History Profile. You did a marvelous narration,I surely enjoyed listening to you. Was a very interesting case,and in my opinion justice was not served at all. It was tragic for both Jennie,her dad and mom. Rest in peace to all who suffered.

[@duvessa2003]

I grew up in a suburb of New Haven and remember going to both Savin Rock and Malley’s Department store. This is my first time hearing about Jenny and the insensitivity and criminality of the Malleys. The rich and influential got away with murder then, as they often still do.

[@jared1870]

What a tragic story and another gross example of someone buying their way out of trouble. And the story was doubly horrifying through the narration of History Profiles. Have you seen him? His hobby is tying streetlamps into knots. Another great case, thanks.

[@berenicewaters4096]

Another amazing story with the Fabulous voice from the handsome Oli from History Profiles. Poor girl with such aspirations to improve her circumstances but instead she ended up dead for befriended the rich and powerful. It has a twist of Jeffrey Einstein.

[@victoriabaldwin4821]

No matter how old you get, always listen to your mother. Mother always want the best for their children

[@nicoler3499]

Wow. This was such a tragedy all around. Poor girl and her family 😢

[@Sorchia56]

What an absolutely wretched case! I think they got away with murder as well. Well done, HP!

[@Agapy8888]

Greetings Ollie. How nice of you to narrate for BC. Sad for Jennie and her parents.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@bettyjames4155]

Hi there Ayape!

[@janessap1739]

Just subbed to History Profiles… I haven’t watched this video yet, & I’m looking forward to it, but if Brief Case recommends this other channel & lets him narrate this crime story, that’s good enough for me :)Thank you both, and keep up the amazing work! 👏🏻😘 Edit: It was as great as I figured it would be…I loved his voice, accent, word choices, & delivery, as I do yours, BC!! Amazing collab! About the case? Unjust & tragic as so many are…her less fortunate ($$-wise)family received NO justice for her murder, & the more fortunate (again, $$-wise) killer walked away scot-free, & got to live his life as a do-over. Her life was cruelly taken, while his life continued on, barely even interrupted. Awful! 😞

[@stephenmartinez8772]

I live in New Haven my high school art teacher was the granddaughter of Edwin Malley Malley's was a giant store in the 70s and 80s

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thats so interesting, thanks for the info :)

[@terriesavage4897]

I love these from the early times good job

[@louisemcgregor1111]

I'm stuck home from work with covid so I can enjoy straight away!!! Thank you bc😁

[@meemurthelemur4811]

Best wishes for a quick recovery!🦋🌈🦄🐱

[@louisemcgregor1111]

@@meemurthelemur4811 thank you!!

[@lauriewilson4741]

❤️‍🩹 get better. Lots of sleep 💤

[@katatarot597]

Thank you Briefcase! 👌

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for listening

[@sheilayoung8007]

Such a tragic loss, her poor family. To be able to buy people's silence is horrible, and for your silence to be bought is worse. Thank you BC and thank you HP for the narration. ❤

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Not CR today, HP & BC :)

[@sheilayoung8007]

@@BriefCaseOfficial lolololol!!!! So sorry, must be getting old! ❤❤ love ya Brief Case!

[@theresareynolds3133]

This poor beautiful young lady, I wonder what happened to the other 2 Kramer children after the parents died.

[@ELKE-]

Awesome narrating job by History Profiles. Great work on your fabulous channel BC, as you always do! Thank you

[@ELKE-]

Sorry, I'm later. Few things to do this morning, you know what I mean... But I relisten twice already, and two yesterday. Take care. Thank you

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you

[@ELKE-]

@@BriefCaseOfficial Always welcome BC!

[@renee1961]

Happy Valentine's Day!🙋💚💚💚💟💝💝🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Thank You! Sorry I'm late. Feeling lousy today.

[@bettyjames4155]

Hi Renee!

[@edamnaf9265]

Good morning, BC!! So glad to see a new one!

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Good morning Briefcase 💼 and crime family 😊. I missed you guys 😁

[@meemurthelemur4811]

Hiya Caddy!🦋🌈🦄🐱🥐🍫☕🤗🥰💘💖

[@monicabennett6620]

I like the way you share presenting cases. It makes it feel like a youtube community of presenters. Well done!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Wow, thank you!

[@shiny2423]

It would be interesting to use DNA evidence now if any trace is left in the body cavity as the physicians who examined her had said she had been violated.

[@thelogicaldanger]

Yeah, unfortunately if the DNA sample wasn't refrigerated, it would all be deteriorated at this point. Since they had no idea DNA existed at that time, they didn't preserve samples. After DNA was discovered in the 50's, then blood and seman samples were often preserved from unsolved crimes, under the hope that someday there would be technology to match DNA (and many old crimes were solved once there was the technology to match DNA.)

[@jamsaidemelo1367]

Body's are cleaned before burial.

[@larapalma3744]

Be nothing left

[@chatkins100]

You cant believe how happy you make me when you upload 😄 Thank You

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

My pleasure

[@QuakerLady]

This episode was especially eerie for me. I used to shop at Malley's in New Haven. I can still hear the jingle ending with "The Edward Malley Company". That dry goods store grew into a multi-floor department store in the heart of downtown New Haven. Also, one of my mother's favorite places was Savin Rock in nearby West Haven. It became a much loved amusement park and included a nice boardwalk and a still-popular indoor-outdoor restaurant. Chilling.

[@alesiahowington5507]

Thank you for your hard work!!!

[@perrydowd9285]

Thanks History Profiles I'm checking you out now. Thanks BC for introducing me to this channel. Hey Brief Cat. 👍😀😻

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou :)

[@bettyjames4155]

Hi Perry!

[@perrydowd9285]

@@bettyjames4155 Hey Betty. How's everything going?

[@bettyjames4155]

@@perrydowd9285 Everything's good here! How're things with you?

[@perrydowd9285]

@@bettyjames4155 Great to hear. Really good this end. I was chatting to the General Manager tonight. We've got a 50 week contract and I'm on the team. 👍😁

[@myotheraccountonothe]

Beautiful narration, thank you 😊

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Agapy8888]

Hi BC. Your research is amazing.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou :)

[@leeyaferguson9019]

Morning been drinking coffee and watching BRIEF CASE.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Sounds great :)

[@deedragongirl]

Happy Valentine's Day BC and HP from Malaysia!

[@frandistabile4723]

Such a tragedy what happened to Jennie Cramer and the devastation her parents went through. It was truly a travesty that they got away with murder. Sadly money talked in a lot of cases back in those days. Thank you BC for another interesting case.

[@AnzeXVisuals]

Money still does bro

[@frandistabile4723]

Believe me I know it does!!! I was just saying that it did especially back then.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Armie Hammer anyone?

[@dinahbrown902]

Money still does a lot of talking in 2022😢

[@frandistabile4723]

@@dinahbrown902 I know it does Dinah and it is disgusting!!!

[@nikkioshea4139]

I subbed both to this channel and History profiles, so chuffed that this video popped up on my recommended vids today. I shall now be happily occupied on catching up on all videos from both channels. 😊🥰

[@nancyM1313]

❤ HISTORY PROFILES CHANNEL Thank you Brief Case. ❤🕊💃 *Happy Valentine's Day 2022*

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks Nancy :)

[@Samanthajustinapoliti]

Yay it’s Brief case time happy valentines for you and all it’s a extra special day for me as my first son was born on valentines it’s 11pm here so we are finishing while most of you have just started to celebrate hope you all enjoy your day and night hope the hubbies and the wives spoil you…… by the way I am already subscribed to history profile yes I like history well narration and another interesting case well done BC and HP

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Wow your son born on Valentines day thats pretty cool, I missed a well known date by one day when I was born :)

[@Samanthajustinapoliti]

@@BriefCaseOfficial Is it Christmas day just guessing lol

[@Samanthajustinapoliti]

@@BriefCaseOfficial yes it was the present I could have ever gotten

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

No its April 2nd :)

[@Samanthajustinapoliti]

@@BriefCaseOfficial so almost April fools day

[@maggiegarber246]

Oh, my goodness! I am descended from Cramers, although mine lived in Pennsylvania.

[@Janinebignell]

I absolutely love your channel and have shared it with my friends. Thank you for the amazing content and thank you to your guest narrators too. You're all wonderful.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@seandelap6268]

Great to see these sort of collaborations.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou :)

[@addie_is_me]

Me too, I love it!

[@blahkjboubblah9856]

Yep and it still happens today, if you're rich and/or famous you usually get away with anything.

[@hollymorris785]

Happy Valentine's Day! Thank you for all the entertainment!!

[@normacook8325]

Thank you, History Profiles! I am already subscribed from Brief Case sharing your link!!! 👍

[@ELKE-]

Congrats BC! 350K!🌟 Celebrating listen to your videos. Thank you for great stories and your awesome effort! Proud to be your subscriber

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks Elke

[@ELKE-]

@@BriefCaseOfficial My pleasure BC! I thank you, it's a good day to rewatch them. Listen another one now! Even if I don't leave comments, be sure I'm here. Wish great rest of your Thursday

[@ELKE-]

@@BriefCaseOfficial Great pleasure! I listening the third one now. Thank you for your kindness. Take care

[@moomyung9231]

This is the first video I've seen from this channel, but I've never heard of this case before so kudos.

[@aurorawolfe6060]

if your parents love you, please listen to them. they only want what's best for you. my one regret was that i should have understood that, and listened to my mom more often back when i was a teenager, around Jennie's age. RIP Jennie and I hope James and Walter are burning in hell for what they did to her.

[@Grimmarox]

I really enjoyed this reading.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou

[@helenj4902]

Love your channel!!!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you so much!!

[@brandyjean7015]

Jennie's Mom, didn't want her residing in the family residence, because of a perceived negative influence in a younger daughter. I hope she wasn't too much younger. With Dad already a suicide, Mom decides to take her own life too. Hopefully the younger daughter wasn't so beautiful, that she was over indulged & trained to rely solely on her good looks.

[@brandyjean7015]

@Nicky L how sad. Thanks, I missed that bit.

[@TREVASLARK]

@Nicky L Nooooo ! How awful.

[@nikkioshea4139]

@Nicky L oh gosh that's dreadful, no wonder thd mother then committed suicide, so sad.

[@oooh19]

No it sucks to not look a certain way frankly times haven’t changed women and girls are judged so harshly for our looks!

[@gregmcb5305]

I got to say I love the way you get other KZbin’s and stuff to read the stories for you!

[@janetperez26]

What a horrific ending. My brother killed himself as well, and that event has always tormented my entire family to this day. I can't imagine how the younger sister of Jenny Kramer felt and handled all of this tragedy. Even though these events of history are but of that.... history, I feel so much grief for the deceased and their surviving family members of their days/ life. The Kramers were wealthy, but no amount of money can make a person happy, especially when they have lost so many loved ones and have lived through so much devastation. Wonderful narration by the speaker, and I will subscribe to his channel as well. Thank you for this horrible narrative story. Even though it is so sad, it makes me feel that my one tragedy is in no comparison to the feelings and events that Kramer's family members had to go through.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Hi Jan, Thankyou for the comment but I was very sorry to read about your brother, so, sad. I agree with what you wrote "no amount of money can make a person happy, especially when they have lost so many loved ones and have lived through so much devastation" - Take Care, BC

[@michellegable3191]

This one really made me aggravated.

[@resourcedragon]

What a very sad case. I have to agree with the defence lawyer that the prosecution didn't explain how Jennie ingested the arsenic. So, she didn't drown, while she may have been on her way to dying of arsenic poisoning, that isn't necessarily what killed her. So how did she die? And, to be fair, why would the Malleys poison her? I can understand killing a rape victim so that she doesn't testify against you but poisoning doesn't sound like a likely choice of murder method. I'm wondering if the doctors who performed the post mortem missed some blunt force trauma.

[@perusevintage8460]

There is much evidence to point to Walter being the mastermind behind it, to try to save his family’s reputation. James was not the brightest. I believe Jennie perhaps threatened to go to the police with what James had done to her. Walter had access to arsenic at his family’s store, while in school had seen an autopsy on a body that had died due to arsenic poisoning, the strange occurrences around his mother’s death and his inherited will from her, etc. He was very well educated and from a life of privilege.

[@kristinhayLiverbirdy08]

Well done narration. Loved the content

[@sonesinhsomxanxay4660]

Fascinating. And the fact I grew up in New Haven made this more intriguing!

[@resarm5007]

Good morning Brief 💼 Case! 💐🤗

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Morning!

[@cazza7034]

Wonderful x Thank you 🙏 keep them coming please.

[@pimpozza]

A fascinating case and great narration by Ollie.. thank you 🤗

[@charityrogers3409]

Oh my History in the house! As always thank you BC 💜 Great narration HP!

[@hkbabel]

Thank you BC - listening from my sister's house in a (very chilly) tiown very close to New Haven CT !

[@whopiddledonyourposttoasti175]

Such a sad tragic. Wealthy young men (cads) board with life find it amusing to take the only thing a not so wealthy young lady has; her virtue. They destroyed a whole family and felt absolutely no remorse, more than likely they continued on with their game.

[@DavidBrisco]

Ollie! Love me some history profiles and brief case. 💚

[@nicolevarnam2290]

Thanks So Much to both of U Dear Sirs💙Luv both of Ur Channels❤️

[@robynszeliga6113]

Very cool. I have an antique advertisment for an art company with a poem of her death and photo.