The Horrors of Villisca Ax Murder House

[@BuzzFeedUnsolvedNetwork]

Make sure to leave your questions for our Post Mortem episode down below!

[@ARipeBanana]

big w

[@Del_lunesssss]

#Postmortem Out of all the places you visited, What Place have you got the most evidence? (still crying about this being the last season)

[@Farihaa.]

For #postmoretem,Please tell me you’ll go to the Sallie house this season without telling me you’ll go to the Sallie house;)

[@XeroGravity_Orange]

Ok

[@The_Lostfield_]

YES SIR

[@SnowTheAnimator]

"I do bring good vibes!" -Shane "I've got a demon living inside my ribcage" Madej, 2021

[@s.4.d.i_556]

This is probably my favorite comment I've ever read😭👏 10/10 would read again!

[@aiklawas]

100/10 my fave quote, next to “hey demons it’s me ya boy”

[@beesalittlenerdbird5949]

And he’s right

[@AlbinoCrow]

😂😂😂

[@jemmaisweird]

the duality of man (also where tf did all these bots come from)

[@void_berry]

Ryan: Unicorns aren't real, but ghosts are Shane: *demonic screeching*

[@HisFavSwan]

Bot, smh.

[@ChristinaJonson]

it’s just annabelle in his chest cavity

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

it finally left his body. shane is now free again.

[@tatertot7112]

I love how throughout this series Ryan’s whole physique and style has changed and Shane…well he got a stache and his pants are higher.

[@renabvby1557]

😭😭😭

[@sickermann]

Ryan used to be so scared in the beginning. Now he’s kind of nonchalant & filled with skepticism.

[@renabvby1557]

@@sickermann he's not skeptical but I do agree that he's not scared anymore

[@kikikitsinis]

😂😂😂

[@adlihloetz7162]

@@renabvby1557 i believe he is still scared but now knows how to mask it.

[@LeachZeech]

I'm kinda surprised no one's mentioned this but in the Victorian era, it was common practice to draw the curtains and cover the bodies after death. They would also cover mirrors to prevent spirits from being "trapped in the looking glass". They murders were only a decade after Victoria died, so the practices were likely still common, even in America. If anything, it sounds like the murderer did these funerary practices to prevent the spirits from coming after them.

[@tigerlioness1]

The era in which the murders occurred was the Edwardian Era. You are correct about the practice though.

[@PamelaLynnHowell]

See my other comment... some observant Jewish people continue to cover mirrors for 7-8 days after a death in the family.

[@Codename_Thumblesteen]

@@PamelaLynnHowell Jewish practices do it for the sake of the living so you don't have to feel self-conscious during your grief. Seems a bit far fetched for the killer to think "Oh these people might have Jewish relatives, better cover the mirrors."

[@bogbastard4243]

@@style_1023 wow you're so cool bro it was so cool how you mockingly pointed out an insignificant mistake someone made even though it did nothing to detract from your understanding of what they were saying. wow you're like, really smart. were you in AP classes in middle school? not to imply you ever left middle school

[@mdy682]

*shane walks in the house alone* murderer's ghost, crying in the corner: not him please i wanna go home

[@masonthorpe9955]

full on but hahaha I think all the ghosts scared of shane hahaha

[@shadow_glitchy_cosplays]

lol

[@gyronnax]

Shane be like: Yes it's me, i'm gonna send you back to hell

[@b.t.2796]

Frightening to think that the killer is still on the loose

[@retired.4398]

shane is something else, he's his own being even the ghosts wont speak in his presence

[@rosatic222111888]

please, the scream that shane let out when ryan said “unicorns are not real, but ghosts are real” he is feed up lmaooo

[@lauve_kl4375]

Hilarious since you could see in his head he was like “he just… proved my point…” and then Shane dropped that line 😂

[@lauve_kl4375]

Ryan***

[@k80_]

the screams of the damned

[@pammaggio8135]

@rosatic…. I agree… I think Shane has ONE foot in… and two arms… hands and one head😂… already out … and only one foot in Buzz-feed Supernatural 🤣😂 But really glad Ryan is all in and enjoying the final season!!! Thank u Ryan!!!…. A TON of people have loyally fallowed this channel and I am sure like me… they look forward to each episode!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️

[@landerwust7175]

You're Dp made me sad and smile for a while...❤️🥺

[@freya2294]

"we're the ghoul brothers...it's a bond that lasts forever" anyone else emotional

[@bamagalforever]

...Y-YES 😭

[@RealRayu]

A truly beautiful moment🥰

[@nicoley8844]

I appreciate them being very “last season” in a lot of their decisions and what their responses are to each other. It makes you feel like they’re just as invested as we all are 😅🥺

[@KayleeKat]

And now they own a business together (Watcher) 😭 Bond’s going strong

[@monsoon9847]

No

[@LilliumJLupin]

Having watched so many of these, this is the episode that really got under my skin. That house does NOT pass the vibe check.

[@davidchalmers2504]

Here's something extra disturbing. A TV show called Ghost Lab went to the house, and the ghost hunter asked "Why'd you do it?" And, they got an answer: "For fun".

[@LilliumJLupin]

@@davidchalmers2504 Eep! I'll have to find that....

[@hnichole]

@@davidchalmers2504 That's so fucked up omfg I'm never going to Iowa, just so I never get even close to this house. 😭

[@1600_rk]

how do u guys believe this 😂

[@tbow13gbr22]

My mom took my sister and I there when I was little. We didn’t go inside or stay overnight, but we stood outside and took a bunch of pictures. I *vividly* remember seeing shadows moving even though there wasn’t supposed to be anyone in the house that night, and a lot of the pictures we took have large white spots and things that look like handprints, like something was trying to keep us from taking the pictures.

[@ApurvaGuptaFilms]

so many killer quotes in this episode, my fave being - “he just seems to have no fear, which I used to think was courageous but now I just think he’s an insane person.”

[@gladyskemuma3165]

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[@alholbrook8292]

My god I’m so sorry for the comments you have- I thought it was going to be more quotes

[@ApurvaGuptaFilms]

@@alholbrook8292 Me too unfortunately haha!

[@wesjeselnik2974]

Time stamp?

[@juniorsanchez7441]

@@alholbrook8292 wat are these comments? I havent seen these before in other videos

[@laraduarte1643]

"my name's shane, i am looking for the killer" "HEY, FUCKO!" PLS I CANT

[@bugpooki]

that’s classic shane

[@rangeriingkiings4137]

That one made me laugh

[@rivereverlasting8208]

"You do what you do to make your girlfriend feel safe." Terrible ghost hunter, best boyfriend 10/10

[@mircowavenoisesmushroom1738]

Wholesome 1000/10

[@derpspears5830]

@Mayumi-Chan🌹 not soo wholesome bot pls dont ruin such a wholesome comment

[@fairy_floss]

Very wholesome

[@demoraaaaa]

100/10 best boyfriend

[@abhinavkaushik7]

excuse me, he is the best ghost hunter in the world, he eats ghouls for breakfast.

[@finn1666]

when ryan asks "why did you do what did you here" at 31:55, it actually really sounds like the spirit box says "envy." could be a good explanation on why they killed an entire family.

[@d.m.badger2155]

Ryan: Unicorns aren't real, ghosts are real. Shane: *And I took that personally*

[@christina113704]

Someone got triggered lol

[@ef1876]

I saw this comment before I reached that part of the video and my mind just jumped to Shane being really invested in unicorns lmao

[@LLAnimattions]

the fact that the spirit box stopped speaking as soon as Shane took hold of it, is proof that Shane is a demon feared by spirits

[@ellogovna6223]

All the spirits are just terrified of all the demons Shane has either trapped in him or otherwise attached to him

[@whiskeygordon2452]

100% true

[@itzkatie7227]

Trueee

[@joacimjeppsson4952]

Omg LL, im a big fan! Where have you been all these years? Sorry if you dont want to bring it up. But i defentely did not expect to see you here!

[@doxera6116]

He doesn’t feed into them. Demons literally drain you thru fear and anxiety. He hardwalls them out and doesn’t realize it

[@mackenziedana6702]

“Everyone in town was a suspect” maybe because you let everyone in town hold the axe after the murder???

[@arghvl7141]

@Marie hey that's what i was thinking too!

[@Ragan31687]

@macs_somethingThat would make sense. I wonder if that is true what the motive was?

[@snramadhan]

​@@Ragan31687 a cult maybe??

[@lisa.66]

I've now seen about 10 of these episodes and this is the creepiest one to me, just because of how clear and relevant the answers were on the spirit box. 'Hard to stop' gave me chills...

[@garyjones4321]

nonsense.

[@todimherbst]

​@@garyjones4321different people have different beliefs, you have to accept that and stop forcing people to change their mind

[@Bonkekook]

@@todimherbst Uh, no, not if those people are arguing their beliefs are science when they aren't. Someone with beliefs should be open to those beliefs being challenged, or they should keep them out of public view if they can't handle them being challenged.

[@todimherbst]

@Bonkekook or maybe you just could leave people alone if their beliefs don't harm anyone

[@timeforlaurynsopinion5138]

the way ryan is so casual about the torches turning on and off when once upon a time he would've been pissing his pants and crying out of fear. that's called growth!

[@ItDoesntMatterReally]

Growth from the experience of learning that those flashlights will turn on and off without any rhyme or reason.

[@clenchfarthead8047]

fax

[@andrewovery6458]

The flashlights were very not compelling

[@TheAceAllagator]

I'm so proud of him so far this season ngl I thought his walk through was gonna be old city jail 2.0 especially when they mentioned that sometimes the house has an effect on some people's minds I went 👀 "oh no, Ryan." But that 'i am not my fear' mantra he's go seems so be working for him.

[@wiillLiccs]

The only flashlights that have seemed compelling were the Sally House ones, as far as I remember. It actually seemed to have meaning behind the turning on and off.

[@desireesmith4050]

The notion that Shane goes against his own nature to check the entire house to make sure his girlfriend feel safe is so cute 🥺

[@sleepy5612]

@Maysy Liky ummmmmmm

[@sketcheii]

I was thinking the same thing!!!!

[@bashboi4074]

These bots are really getting out of hand. I agree with you, good relationship stuff there

[@keelyaguilar8102]

@@bashboi4074 honestly

[@coolnoah8183]

Shane doesnt believe in ghosts, he does believe actual evil people exist, he's not going against his own nature to make sure theres no serial killers in his house, he just is confident that the likelihood is so low that he only checks for Sara's sake

[@ltm3368]

The spirit box session in the attic had some of the most compelling evidence since the start of the series: the fact that the "I'm in here" was crystal clear and a direct and immediate answer to the question gave me chills, as did the fact that it answered the "what year is it" question with a number

[@shadelings]

You're easily impressed.

[@Ballhair]

@@shadelings 💀

[@神林しマイケル]

Spirit boxes are not real lol. Don't ever buy one since you are just getting scammed.

[@jdstinner3868]

@@神林しマイケル Yup but I don't think they all are scams but you could obviously buy them where they just spit out random words pretty sure that's what they use in this show.

[@thebadpoet]

Spirit boxes aren’t a scam designed to spit out words but they do demonstrate a profound misunderstanding of how radio signals work. If you’ve ever been tuning a radio manually, you know that you start to pick up a signal before it is clear and it takes some fiddling to really get the station in clear especially on AM radio. Some stations have very powerful signals which cover a lot of frequencies, some have quite weak signals and can be overwhelmed by stronger ones. So even though the box is ticking through radio station frequencies very quickly the fact you can get a word or two just means they’ve hit a major station with a powerful signal.

[@CartoonHero1986]

Shane's little breakdown over the Maglite thing was priceless. You can literally see his brain shut down and reboot as he realizes he is once again having to explain this lol

[@Bonkekook]

You mean the coincidences that seem much more plausible because they edit out the multiple times there is no response? The coincidences that you use as confirmation bias to reinforce your wanted belief absent of any actual proof? This is one of my major gripes with this show. Ryan claims he presents evidence unbiased, but simply adding what he thinks the words are for the spiritbox, or only showing the times the maglite seems intelligent is bias in itself for the sake of entertainment.

[@KaiseaWings]

This is possibly the most coherent the spirit box has ever been, which is really interesting. It doesn't mean much, but it *is* fun. Poor Shane losing his mind trying to explain why the lights don't work.

[@distortedtruth1942]

the most coherent one was in la llorona

[@bobinasack]

@@distortedtruth1942 the lighthouse one where Ryan goes up the spiral staircase and uses the spiritbox is the most clear one in my opinion

[@devinkemp6198]

Idk the river Phoenix one was pretty coherent I mean you had river Phoenix talk and the former owner to

[@wowitsyan]

i thought the one in prison was the most coherent

[@LightningLeaf]

I think the lighthouse one was really clear, it was a full blown conversation.

[@BarkingKittens]

For postmortem: On the topic of the killer covering all of the faces, mirrors, and windows, covering mirrors after death was also a common tradition around the time to prevent spirits from getting trapped in them. It was almost like the murderer was mimicking the rituals of a family member, respecting them enough to try and ease their souls’ passage into Heaven. So in addition to the killer being ashamed, the mirror thing could also suggest that the family was murdered by someone who knew them personally (or maybe they were just afraid of the spirits coming back for revenge).

[@Mrsolpjh]

The face covering thing is also a common thing for killers who know their victims personally to do. So, I definitely think it was either a family member or someone like a neighbour or good friend of the family who did it.

[@lynettemorales7455]

Agreed someone w no ties would care

[@tn2142]

It was probably the father

[@daniellefeller4845]

Interesting I think it was one of the church people they knew!

[@MadiRoseT]

This is considered basically solved!! You've GOT to read Man from the Train by Bill James & Rachel McCarthy James, about this case and others. Basically, the guy was a prolific axe murderer of families across the United States for decades, but never caught because of the way information wasn't shared then like it is now. At the end of the book, the authors think they've solved it. I read it over a year ago and I still think about it at least once a week.

[@mariaturner371]

Man such a shame this is unsolved. I wish I knew like why them? Can you imagine being the parents of the girls that let them sleepover? There lives never be the same again and family members just crying for years. So horrible.

[@medes5597]

There's a book called the man from the train that argues this case is part of the pattern of a single serial killer (I wasn't convinced by the books theory personally after looking further into it). However what I did learn from that book was that there were a surprising amount of family annihilations with an axe from 1908 to 1914. This same scenario happened way more than you'd want to believe. Like way way more. There was a lot of "why them" going on when I read that book

[@jeremyd1298]

The neighbor, Mary Peckham, had a severe nervous breakdown after the murders, had to be taken out of state, where she died 6 months later.

[@Lena-sl7]

“it’s actually quite calming” says Shane lying next to a crime scene

[@please_im_a_staaar]

I mean it was a crime scene a century ago.

[@englishatheart]

Lying* "Laying" means "placing something down on a surface." "Lying" means "reclining."

[@Lena-sl7]

@@englishatheart ahh you’re right I spelled it wrong

[@wuzzyuploads5910]

Ryan: Wondering how the killer could sneak around such a creaky house. Me: Well it probably helps that it was 100 years younger at the time of the event...

[@peopleandanimalslovm]

That's what I was saying 😂

[@kmitch4899]

On par with the Loey Lane ep "I feel a breeze, is that a ghost" as he stood under an air vent lol

[@Marzi29]

Some houses are just creaky. My childhood home was only 20 years old when we moved in but it's always been super creaky. However, when you live in a house like that, there's so much random creaking from the house settling that if someone were moving around (carefully) you'd probably not wake up because you're so used to the sound.

[@lymmea]

Interesting theory: it's noted that a number of axe murders at the time were committed near train tracks. A man and his daughter writing an investigative book on the subject theorized that this was because the man was a traveler, but here's another possibility: perhaps the killer's movements (and murders) weren't heard because they timed their attacks to when trains were passing by, using that noise as cover?

[@duchessoftheprairie]

​@@lymmea Yeah i know for a fact that this story was included in bedtime stories channel the man from the train. I love this theory.

[@happy2405]

This is how you know Ryan isn't scared of ghosts anymore: he laughs when ghosts turn flashlights on and off when in season 1 he would flip out.

[@Calilou52]

Its not that hes less scared of ghosts, its that he believes in them a lot less. As in hes already seen the light do this a bunch with nothing happening after. Now if he could actually see the figure turning it off, he wouldnt have been laughing

[@jamiejai9667]

The town "Marshall" prob did it. Maybe an affair or obsession..... makes sense the husband was the only one who got the blade....

[@docholiday6194]

Laughing can be seen as a sign of distress or discomfort

[@t.h.301]

a taekooker who watches buzzfeed unsolved HELLO WISE SOUL

[@happy2405]

@@t.h.301 omg Hi~~ 💜

[@TheRageCommenter]

I’ve heard theories that the murderer hid inside the attic. There were cigarette butts found inside next to an old wooden chair. That’s the most terrifying part to me. The killer was waiting in the house the whole time and nobody realized.

[@carnuatus]

Hinterkaifeck, anyone?

[@svnsetsomnia8280]

@@carnuatus what?

[@daithiodonnell2825]

​@@carnuatusThere's actually a theory that the same guy committed both crimes. It's detailed in a book called The Man From The Train, highly recommend.

[@Theproblemchildofyoutube]

​@@daithiodonnell2825Ah yes, Paul Mueller...I'm doing a study on why I think he committed the Villicsa murders.

[@nothobbesmufc949]

@@svnsetsomnia8280 the Hinterkaifeck farm in Germany. Ryan covered this with Brent in season 1. 1922 the whole family was murdered and in the weeks prior they'd heard noises in the attic and found tracks leading to their house from the woods but not from it. It's thought the killer was hiding in the attic. he killed them, left most of them stacked in the barn, and stayed in the house a few days before leaving.

[@lizardpeople]

“Or he missed breakfast” Shane’s facial expressions after Ryan said that is too much 😂 5:47

[@gladyskemuma3165]

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[@janettabuchivatsi1864]

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[@toufusoup]

Friday is always gonna be a good day. Not because it’s the end of the week, but because the Ghoul Boys bless us with an upload.

[@ithrtswhnIpss]

Yes sir

[@aileenlaude4996]

Also, there's Are You Scared over on Watcher too.

[@bravocrimson12]

Always? I thought it was last season. Anyways, today was a good day

[@roobee1234]

And also because it's friday

[@westontheexistent7154]

Not the ghoul boys anymore, they are ghoul brothers.

[@katew778]

Sheriff: “Step right up! Swing the axe for yourself!” Shane: “F****n’ Iowans”

[@HB-Harmony]

As an iowan, i can confirm we're all like that xD

[@beeaggro2593]

Honestly not far off

[@kolbymcmullen2364]

Yeah I'm an Iowan and Shane is totally justified

[@Werewolf_Korra]

I grew up only 60 miles from this place and had no idea about it until just last year. You'd think I'd hear about it at least once in the 15 years I lived in Iowa.

[@alliekattlopez5535]

Wow, that amazing. There's a paranormal group called Charmed City, who did an excellent investigation on the house, along with the history. You won't be disappointed. 😉🧡🍂🍁❤🎃

[@davidalexallen]

"I don't believe in ghosts but I do believe Iowa is haunted." Absolutely killed me right at the start.

[@marshmllwbunny]

Iowa is haunted lmao, born and raised here and never lived in a house without at least 1 spirit

[@kdjoshi726]

@@marshmllwbunny Ig that goes to almost all houses in USA? (Or I might be wrong Imao)

[@ReverseKaizo]

as an iowan.... yeah definitely

[@emilyb.8219]

As a lifelong Iowan, you wouldn't catch me anywhere near a cornfield at night

[@batking4342]

@@marshmllwbunny I've gone from semi-northern Ontario, mid Ontario, and southern Ontario. No matter what house I've lived in, they've all been haunted. So maybe Ontario is Canada's Iowa

[@D_Dizzy_]

"Shane, was that you?" "No, I'm in the closet..."

[@ink6172]

same

[@herewego02]

the amount of bots in your replies oh my-

[@cherokeemoffett7405]

It's like that one audio I heard on tik tok.. "I was over on the bench"

[@grim1566]

@Kabeer ahmed this isn't a not I thimk

[@bugpooki]

lol same

[@MissCacaK]

The wildest part of them all sleeping through the slaughtering isn’t that the house is so small, it’s that many of them not only shared rooms but BEDS. How do you not wake up when the person lying next to you is being murdered with an axe???

[@compulsiverambler1352]

One theory is that he drugged their food.

[@MadiRoseT]

This is considered basically solved!! You've GOT to read Man from the Train by Bill James & Rachel McCarthy James, about this case and others. Basically, the guy was a prolific axe murderer of families across the United States for decades, but never caught because of the way information wasn't shared then like it is now. At the end of the book, the authors think they've solved it. I read it over a year ago and I still think about it at least once a week.

[@truckinconvoy7312]

The adult woman did wake up, or so it seems. The children would likely have been frozen with fear.

[@compulsiverambler1352]

@@truckinconvoy7312 The one who seems to have woken up was the 12 year old guest.

[@underwirez]

not to mention the creaky floorboards. youd think atleast 2 or more people would be light sleepers enough to hear someone moving around the house

[@Dressup_Doll]

This is one of the very few cases that makes me feel paranoid and sick to my stomach every time I watch it. I’ve seen it only twice, and it’s affected me both times. But the only thing that I enjoy is Shane saying, “You do what you do to make your girlfriend feel safe.” That’s the only thing about this video that is nice.

[@bettername2come]

"Unicorns aren't real. Ghosts are real." Ryan, I think you broke Shane.

[@NaCN]

Shane really thought he made progress with "unicorns aren't real" to be instantly let down by "ghosts are real" 😂

[@please_im_a_staaar]

I don't know why horses with horns are less realistic to Ryan than floating clouds in the shape of a person who knock stuff out of shelves for some reason.

[@irisjoosten8669]

Unicorns are real. They just happen to be gray and chubby.

[@zyourzgrandzmaz]

unicorns are real tho, theyre called narwals

[@AlexandraVioletta]

@ A Ghost m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5zaoourgrWmpcU

[@leigh3659]

Spirit: “Switch.” Also Spirit when Shane holds the spirit box: “‘Aight, I’mma head out.”

[@hp8121]

Ghost be like : "Nope this ain't my guy! Switch again!"

[@aakashshrestha4880]

@@hp8121 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@raymondblair59]

that moment when the ghost realized they were barking up the wrong tree

[@uhohhotdog9150]

I was thinking maybe when it said switch it wasn't telling them to switch, but telling Ryan it was the other way around, that Ryan is scared of them

[@followerofnzoth]

Ryan: unicorns aren't real... Ghosts are real. Shane: *mental breakdown*

[@jackaljack0]

*high pitched demonic screeching*

[@m0L3ify]

That moment summed up the entire series 😂

[@johnscheffer9018]

The rhinoceros is a unicorn

[@luisechevarria186]

Wait, so, how does Shane explain those clearly audible voices? He just says, its the wind? Or what?

[@m0L3ify]

@@luisechevarria186 Yes. Or electronic glitch. Or other staff working on the production. Etc. etc. (Personally I do believe they're EVP but that's what he'd say. I don't think there's anything that would ever get Shane to think otherwise. He's pretty set in his worldview.)

[@chrisgomez860]

My God. What happened to that family is horrifically tragic. And the fact the monster was never caught makes my heart angry and sad.

[@arthemysia]

I did a course in criminal psychology and there is a lot of things that does not make sense in this case but what stands out the most to me is: Covering up the victims is a classic move done by killers who knew them personally and/or instantly regretted it after doing it. Very common in crimes of passion. The fact he entered and exited the house easily also adds to the fact that the family probably knew the murderer. Also adds to the things heard in the spirit box like "Stop me" and "I'm miserable". I don't think who did this was the "murder is fun" kind of person. If I had to guess: a very troubled man who was in love or had an affair with the wife - it would explain why the husband was killed in a more violent manner when compared to the others.

[@sergiodominguez3937]

There's also a possibility it could've been the other way around. Husband was having an affair and mistress's husband or close relative found out. Would also explain why Josiah was attacked more brutally

[@katiekat9693]

Personally I think the husband got the easy way out death. I mean think about it. He got directly hit with the sharp side where the others were probably hit over and over with the blunt end. I could very much be wrong but it just seem like the other deaths were more brutal.

[@mia-fp6bt]

Whoever killed the family definitely held a grudge against the father

[@mimi_imfat]

It was most likely a visiting pastor. The morning of the day the family was murdered they went to sunday service and there was a visiting pastor there. There is a theory that they might have invited the pastor over which apparently was a common thing to do. That explains why it was easy for him to enter and exit and maybe even why the doors were locked. The pastor who visited the town was also known to be a weirdo and possibly a pedophile. The mirrors being covered up also makes sense since it seems like it had a religious intent. The pastor later admitted to murders saying god whispered him to do it but he acquitted somehow cause they didn’t have evidence against him. Oh also he left the town the next morning of the murder and he apparently told people in the train station “there are bodies murdered in (the name of the town i don’t remember) and he said that before the bodies were found apparently.

[@frejahertz3675]

Well, yes, but considering the time of the crime, it might’ve been superstition. Back then they covered mirrors and reflecting surfaces, so the soul wouldn’t be trapped. There’s also something about the eyes being windows to the soul, so the murderer might have tried to make sure the spirit didn’t go anywhere by covering their faces. One of the victims even had their eyes gouged out, so it doesn’t really come across as regret, but rage and superstition to me at least.

[@rachelbyrne269]

For postmortem: isn’t it possible that the town Marshall was the killer and brought everyone into the house to intentionally ruin the crime scene and add loads of fingerprints to the weapon?

[@abigailpimpo3671]

that’s exactly what i was thinking!

[@Sheepy_TV]

Or he knew who did it and wanted to cover it up also I belive the killer had an uncontrollable urge to kill and that they were ashamed of what they did judging by they're use of sheets also the bacon wrapped in a towel strikes me as something someone would use for a bad bruise or swelling. I also believe the killer was a man because of force needed to kill by blunt force although it could've been a very angry or crazy woman .

[@krystalferguson8470]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@damionag]

Fingerprints were just starting to be used so a rural cop probably just didnt know any better. Its likely the work of a serial killer as there were several other murders committed the exact same way in the region at the time

[@ava-lc8gd]

that’s exactly my train of thought. i thought it was very strange how a marshal would let people contaminate a very very gruesome and tragic crime scene if he wasn’t some who involved. i do think if he’s haunting the house he’s doing something like la lerona had to do, find the souls of the people he killed and set them free to heaven or to be reincarnated or however afterlife is predicated in the family’s religion that they affiliate with

[@kitfromchicago9787]

“I don’t believe in ghosts but I do believe that Iowa is haunted.” spoken like a true son of Illinois, bless u Shane u doing Chicago proud.

[@Foxy-Mask_Menace]

Too bad you guys are only popular because of one city. Iowa is the superior Midwestern state.

[@cartoonhistory353]

@@Foxy-Mask_Menace your smoking Reggie

[@Clara-zd4jp]

@@Foxy-Mask_Menace Oh yeah, opposed to the 47 famous cities in Iowa

[@englishatheart]

You*

[@englishatheart]

@@cartoonhistory353 You + are = you're.

[@huggniceman4975]

I love all the stories about ghost encounters in these videos. It's like "So you got any proof that outrageous thing happened?" "trust me, bro"

[@daithiodonnell2825]

My favorite is when it comes from the owners of the various haunted attractions. "Oh yeah I totally saw this, and I, the owner of this place who directly financially benefits from you believing it, have no cause to lie".

[@glycerinetears]

idk why they’re still looking for evidence when “spaghetti” and “apple tater” are enough

[@twoshillings7292]

apple tater 😵

[@xxqueenxiexx1314]

Which video was that again 😭

[@FabienneN]

@@xxqueenxiexx1314 I think it was the Bellaire House episode

[@xxqueenxiexx1314]

@@FabienneN thank u!

[@melanieregalado9886]

Apple tater had me wheezing

[@userjayishere]

the fact that dozens of people treated such a tragic event like an amusement park attraction is truly horrifying i genuinely can't imagine something like that happening

[@satarupagingerkolay]

True. When I heard it I actually felt really angry. That is why people scare me more than ghosts or demons.

[@edo5407]

If you lived at that time, everything was boring, people lived very small lives. Also blood and gore was not a huge issue, people know how to slaughter their own animals, and as they said the killer covered up the faces with clothing. So a gruesome murder in your very own home town! Call a neighbor and go take a look!

[@please_im_a_staaar]

Every famous location where a tragedy happened once is treated as an amusement park nowadays. You can go to London and get a tour of places where Jack The Ripper victims were found and stand on those exact spots... Why do things like that exist? Because you can cash in on that and that's the whole point of capitalism.

[@addwasabitomycoffee]

@@please_im_a_staaar it's one thing to be treated as an tourist spot in a place where crime happened 100 years ago, but the people of the town treated it like a show and inflitrated the crime scene when the bodies were still in the house, and the Sheriff let them. It's truly horrifying.

[@disguisedcentennial835]

I mean, isn’t that what ghost hunters do? Isn’t that what we viewers are doing, in a way?

[@Suzumiya_]

"You do what you do to make your girlfriend feel safe." Awwww Shane

[@dishajain1182]

Adorable

[@sillyguyandco]

Timestamp?

[@MissySimpleM]

This was really sweet

[@Suzumiya_]

@@sillyguyandco 22:09

[@sillyguyandco]

@@Suzumiya_ Ty!

[@Jessseven-m5d]

Also, the covering of the mirrors in the home suggests that the killer was oddly being respectful of the souls. Throughout History, it is known that people liked to cover mirrors as a religious belief that souls may be inadvertently trapped if the mirrors weren't covered up when a death occured. They also had a tendency to stop clocks at the time of death.

[@Krisp138]

i thought the opposite, i thought mirrors are portals so maybe they would be stuck there. I mean why would a muderer want to be respectful of the souls he just killed anyway?

[@mishripettinger6242]

I've heard a few people say that the killer felt guilty and didn't want to look at himself after what he'd done so it could just be that

[@AmnaFarook]

I thought that too, but there is evidence that the killer got off to one of the girls' bodies which makes me think he really thought of them as nothing but bodies.

[@Jessseven-m5d]

@@AmnaFarook Yeah, the guy used a slab of bacon like some sort of prehistoric Fleshlight... Disgusting. It's too bad that DNA evidence and forensic science didn't exist yet, because I'm positive they would have found semen and nailed the bastard.

[@shanislost1]

The fact that Shane is more focused on hating Iowa than the investigation is so funny to me I feel like I have to make it clear that I do not hate Iowa and the fact that I am British

[@oliviagreen7423]

Because F@k Iowa that's why😄

[@thomasdominguez8421]

Yea even do I don't know anything about Iowa fu#k Iowa 😂

[@dylansturges8780]

@@thomasdominguez8421 you don’t know English either apparently

[@thomasdominguez8421]

@@dylansturges8780 bro who the hell cares

[@craft7185]

Iowa resident here, everything he says is true.

[@JennWanderer]

Shane: "if you're the killer..." Ad: "This party is gonna get LIT"

[@jasminedragon3315]

I’m absolutely sick of seeing that ad it’s nigh constant

[@mrbeans-yp1gv]

@@jasminedragon3315 ikr

[@natashadam712]

I GET THE SAME AD IT'S SO ANNOYING

[@pavan.kumar.n]

Use youtube vanced already

[@oliviawalsh4011]

i cannot stand that ad LMAOO

[@softstrawberrymochi610]

“You do what you do to make your girlfriend feel safe” **Everyone liked that**

[@Jade-zm2tg]

both are such amazing boyfriends :)

[@strangewayfaringstranger]

@@Jade-zm2tg How would you know? lol

[@strangewayfaringstranger]

Nah, everyone didn't like that.

[@Jade-zm2tg]

@@strangewayfaringstranger im just guessing from previous things they have said

[@ahoam]

@@Jade-zm2tg Ryan ain't no boyfriend, he graduated to fiance😎

[@cartooncrazy9883]

Obviously Shane yelling when Ryan proclaims unicorns aren't real was him hamming it up for the bit, but I LOVE the moment just after Ryan says it where you see him genuinely bluescreen

[@b.richard7632]

the spiritbox was actually terrifying in this episode

[@taylorschofield1698]

I thought the same thing!

[@shengloongtan229]

No lol Learn what's in the spirit box.

[@shengloongtan229]

@Gaming With Atik Probably has to do with how our brain works. Recorders can pick up a lot of background noises that were not picked up by human ears. Our brains are pattern recognising machine, when replaying those unintelligible backgrounds noises got pick up by our brain and we hear those "words". You have to understand how visual and other illusion works and how our brain perceive the environment.

[@xxMpEGxx]

@@shengloongtan229 Thank you, for your work as a fellow Shaniac. Also those flashlights switch on and off due to expansion and retraction of the reflector around the bulb by heat. Sometimes you can see them screwing off the top of the flashlight until it slightly touches the contact to the battery. Then the expansion and retraction happens and that's why its turning on and off. And those EVP-"detectors" that are common in the ghost hunting community might as well be disfunctional detectors that are not calibrated well to static noise.

[@m_gwb]

@Gaming With Atik it's not pre-recorded, the spirit box uses the radio frequencies but in a faster speed so the words you sometimes here are probably from other channels

[@viaguerro4694]

Ryan is getting more and more bold with these ghosts.

[@wayfairer5086]

middle age annoyance... plus the ghosts are all annoying lol

[@janettabuchivatsi1864]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXmsfnSJl9iWjqM

[@L1V1NGD3ADPRO]

Shane’s powers are slowly leaking into Ryan , one day he will live with no fear of the ghouls 🤣🤣

[@hedlund88]

2020 changed a man

[@egg6144]

Character development

[@elizabethpost8021]

That “what is it” was so clearly spoken, it gave me the chills

[@bluedune8458]

Makes me think of like the mother, what if she was asking her husband what Ryan and Shane were 👀

[@karleyfin7299]

Agreed, I usually don't get chills but hearing that sent one through my whole body

[@amydand]

I think their camera man does all those

[@toriaackrill6313]

What time stamp?

[@viridecent460]

@@toriaackrill6313 14:59

[@MagnificentMaj]

I have a theory: What if the murderer was someone close to the family and was invited to their house? The murderer might've used some kind of untraceable poison in their food/drink which settled in and knocked most of the family out in their sleep. Except for Lena, who didn't have as much as the rest of the family. After the murderer did whatever he did, he covered up the mirror because he was superstitious. Anyways, as a Boogara myself, I don't think this house is haunted. There's a lack of strong/clear evidence that can show proof of ghosts. Also, 1912 really was NOT the year. Villisca Ax Murder House, Titanic sinking...

[@koenoe2596]

9:25 I COULDNT STOP CACKLING WHEN RYAN SAID “but unicorns aren’t real” AND SHANE JUST PAUSED COMPLETELY. LIKE THAT IS EXACTLY THE POINT HE’S MAKING. AND THEN RYAN ADDS “but ghosts are real” AND I CAN JUST FEEL THE GENUINE FRUSTRATION WHEN SHANE SCREAMED LMAOOOOOO

[@JBG-AjaxzeMedia]

calm down caps lock

[@speedy4205]

@@JBG-AjaxzeMedia WHY? DOES THIS BOTHER YOU??

[@mzzyqq]

@@JBG-AjaxzeMediaDO U HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT?!

[@JBG-AjaxzeMedia]

@@mzzyqq yes i indeed do

[@sunnishae5047]

@@JBG-AjaxzeMedia ITS OK, IT'S JUST WORDS

[@Georgiaw9999]

I love how Ryan refers to Shane as “my big tall friend”

[@revanianara]

the "i'll kill him" "stop me" and then "help me." gives me chills.

[@Baphy_baby666]

Time stamp?

[@stcrletz]

@@Baphy_baby666 watch from 18:53 and you'll see :)

[@shengloongtan229]

Learn how the spirit box works please

[@stcrletz]

@@shengloongtan229 not sure who that's directed at, but i'm pretty sure it works as a normal am/fm radio, only switching really fast between channels to create an almost seamless background noise. i don't know if your comment was meant to be skepticism or not, but if yes, (while i myself wouldn't regard myself a firm believer in the paranormal) it's still quite strange that a full sentence / good few words were able to be heard through the spirit box, considering the extremely fast frequency. the odds that 3-5 radio channels would exactly line up to create a sentence are highly unlikely. if i took your comment the wrong way, i apologise and have a nice day :) (the last part goes for either option lmao)

[@shengloongtan229]

@@stcrletz kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3XMiYSibMylhrM

[@UHAMUSIC]

Please please cover West Virginias Mad Butcher next. My grandfathers Father gave Micheal Rogers rides to town for groceries, one evening never returning to the vehicle for his ride home. Days later they found what remained in plastic bags. I grew up hearing that story from my grandfather when he wanted us kids to stay out of the deep woods behind our home.

[@eliseachristie2450]

#postmortem The creepiest thing about Villisca is the train whistle! The train goes through every night at 2am, he waited for the train whistle to start killing to hide the sound! The train STILL goes by at that time. Did you hear the train? Love you guys

[@francescaicaza5148]

#postmortem

[@jessiecaitlin]

#postmortem

[@thegoblin.youknowtheone.7051]

#postmortem

[@davidrobbins3018]

Great point!

[@rasbery1382]

#postmortem

[@Darkwolfhellhound]

fun fact: when a murderer covers the face of their victims it usually means they know who they are on a personal level. It also explains why they covered the mirror so they didn't have to see it but also for the time period - when a death happened in the family people covered the mirrors and closed the curtains when in mourning.

[@jessicas1433]

Curtains were closed and mirrors covered until after the funeral so that the deceased's image wouldn't get trapped in a looking glass. It was thought that you might be next if you saw yourself in a mirror at a house where someone had recently died. To prevent bad luck, all clocks were stopped at the time of death ....Itd be interesting to know if they stopped the clocks too

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

@@jessicas1433 Sounds like nothing more than superstitions.

[@jessicas1433]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 ya i guess you could call it that, it was mostly done by irish immigrants, i know the reverend was from England

[@holysickdivinenights]

it also can be a sign of remorse, the killer not wanting to face the people they killed

[@oliviap.1370]

However, the older girls body was dragged down on the bed and her lower half exposed. In the same room, the bacon was left. There was seminal fluids on the bacon, implying the killer pleasure himself while viewing the girls corpses. That doesn't sound very remorseful to me. They also fixed themselves a meal and ate it, in the kitchen of the house in which just minutes prior, they bludgeoned and chopped apart 8 people. That's very psychopathic behavior. Not to mention they chose not to leave one of the girls alive even though she woke and fought back. Someone with remorse might've fled or given a less deadly injury to simply disable her, instead of killing her. The murder killed many small children as well.

[@loladgomez]

Holy crap that “What is it” whisper was so clear!

[@kenzieperez02]

I know right?! It was so freaking clear you could hear it perfectly.

[@TwinsBigLikeTia]

You could see and hear the bed move too when Shane was in the closet. They actually got some crazy evidence this episode

[@rhodrage]

That's some crazy wind they got around there

[@please_im_a_staaar]

It was clear because they suggested you that's what it was saying. It's the power of suggestion and does mess with your perception.

[@timeforlaurynsopinion5138]

@@please_im_a_staaar exactly. i never hear anything until they replay it, and then i can kinda hear it bc they've told me that's what i should be hearing.

[@mollymcdade4031]

17:17 find it hysterical someone put a Booh-Bah doll into the closet, a show that wasn’t made until 2003. Whoever looks after the house definitely just finds the most haunted looking toys possible for added effect.

[@wolfyy664]

Even if he doesn’t believe just hearing Shane say “I’m terrified” makes me scared. He never gets scared so if he says it I’m preparing myself

[@greysonmitchell9979]

Wait when did he say that?

[@wolfyy664]

@@greysonmitchell9979 the beginning when he was talking about how he’s terrified to be in Iowa XD

[@SimonPNW]

To be fair, he said he doesn’t act scared merely cause he doesn’t believe in anything. If he did he claimed he’d be just like Ryan. A total wimp lmao

[@mckaylund4431]

Ryan: "Ghosts are real." Shane: *unleashes his inner demon

[@dobbythefreeelf390]

I was very startled when that happened lmao

[@gilbertohernandez2409]

annabelle, goat man, and all the other demons trapped in his soul have been released

[@lastcousland5525]

My uncle literally wrote the book on this murder called the morning ran red. It was a fiction book based around the events, he sadly passed this year but it’s cool to see the boys finally visit here.

[@ladybugd0ts]

that’s a cool book title!!

[@Kinobambino]

Wow. RIP to your uncle sir!! Hope you're doing well 💕

[@yen2562]

May he rest in peace.

[@laylatewhaiti4972]

worlds best duo, one who believes everything and the other who provokes everything

[@indys1667]

Honestly, the consistency of the murderer's vibes via the spirit box is asounding, with the constant "stop me"'s and the "im miserable"

[@clown-cat]

haha me when im having a depression binge

[@achockey12345]

It'd be so frustrating to be that ghost. Ghost: "Help me." Ryan: "What are your parents' names?" Ghost: "....." Gost: "Are you even listening to me?"

[@misslovelyo3761]

lmao!!! that’s what i was saying and i’m a shaneiac!!

[@misslovelyo3761]

lmao!!! that’s what i was saying and i’m a shaneiac!!

[@DrunkenSkittlez]

phasmophobia in a nutshell

[@cold_mercury4224]

Gost

[@Lol-h1g7o]

🤣

[@attakrus]

The “hard to stop” was terrifying to think about.

[@lelaweber47]

And the “stop me”

[@RosieJau]

I wonder if the person was possessed or something like the guy from Amityville. The fact that he covered the mirror and how in the beginning of the video he said “F*ing Brain” “switch” and then those worlds “hard to stop”

[@Jackie-lj2ts]

There is a very solid theory it was done by a serial killer so that would make sense.

[@neuralmute]

That's true, the serial killer theory IS really solid - the book "The Man From The Train" by Bill James links the Vilisca murders to a whole string of frighteningly similar axe murders all over the country, following a distinct pattern, and following the trains. It's scary how many people this single madman might have killed, and although it reaches sometimes, the book's worth a read.

[@cocacc1573]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZS2dmmvod6praM✍️

[@amranshariff5281]

Hi Ryan and Shane!! You've got a fan from Singapore! Love your unique antiques and fantastic chemistry!!

[@TwinsBigLikeTia]

*Shane goes in closet* *ghost sits next to Ryan* “Thank goodness that guy’s gone, he gives me the creeps” Ryan: “What was that??” 😳

[@mandapaige1]

“Shane was that you?!” “No, I’m in the closet!” 🤣🤣

[@lilyschronce107]

Not after he said that...

[@alex-fs9yt]

Aww I hope he knows that if he ever decides to come out we will give him full support😂

[@QTPiOfficial]

"Why didn't you help him" " 'Cuz I was in the closet"

[@shreya7200]

Demon inside the closet

[@englishatheart]

@@alex-fs9yt I bet his girlfriend would be highly disappointed if that happens. 😆

[@aleishataylor973]

“I’m so vulnerable right now, oh my god” same Shane, same 😂

[@CatMan77782]

What?

[@hnichole]

As entertaining as these Buzzfeed Unsolved episodes are to watch, I find myself hoping that ghosts aren't real because I just find that an awful way to spend the afterlife. My hope is always that the victims are resting peacefully wherever they are now, because I couldn't imagined being trapped for eternity in the place where I was brutally and senselessly murdered. I hope this whole family and the two Stillinger girls are in a good place now.

[@rylieb1334]

Did anyone else melt a little when Shane said he checks his house every night to make sure Sara feels safe? So sweet!

[@sammorpls]

Yes. Yes I did. He's a ghoul hunter at work and at home🙌🏽

[@dewilew2137]

Every girl deserves a man like Shane 😍

[@Legionmint7091]

I somehow feel that Sara is a woman who is quite capable to take care of herself. But she probably let Shane act as the manly man to boost his confidence a bit.

[@Mirala0618]

For #postmortem: Shane, what is the most plausible/hardest to disprove piece of evidence that you guys have collected? What couldn’t you just dismiss as the wind?

[@molcatz9634]

💕💕💕

[@johani1717]

Literally nothing because there has never been any evidence for ghosts, Ever.

[@iaminpainauchocolat9300]

@@johani1717 yes

[@cayfire129]

To go along with that, what piece of evidence do you think you would need to prove to you that they exist?

[@Im__A__Fan]

I would have to thing it was the, (I think it was the Waverly hills hospital? the one with that tunnel too hell.). While Shane is in the tunnel, near the top and Ryan is at the bottom Shane hears a whooshing sound and freaks out.

[@zeusingame]

“i dont believe in ghosts but iowa is haunted” welp fellas he admitted it. we can finally put ourselves to rest

[@nikotm2856]

as someone who has been in iowa and right next to it almost my whole life, iowa is so haunted

[@tiffany3597]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZS2dmmvod6praM 👍🏻

[@ontxtteredwxngs]

@@nikotm2856 I just KNEW someone from Iowa and I could tell she'd seen some sh*t

[@shawnakatrendyorca5506]

This is the Mystery that needs solved. The whole town deserves closure and for people to be respectful and polite and not constantly bring this up to them

[@decker528]

They should probably take the sign down then

[@kavyareddy8711]

Man how I am gonna miss Ryan's "Are ghosts real?" And Shane shaking his head.🙁

[@jjmina5853]

Wym? Are they leaving?

[@beejdude]

@@jjmina5853 this is the last season they’re gonna be here, they started their own channel (:

[@isam6988]

@@beejdude omg this comment made my day , i had no idea they were starting there own channel

[@fallenninja75]

Ryan: "I used to think it was courageous, but now I think he's an insane person." I'm not sure how he's been friends will Shane so long and not figured that out already.

[@missybarbour6885]

The sequence where they give the "ghost" specific instructions and the blue flashlight just keeps going on and off randomly is the best evidence that the flashlights are useless.

[@norasyikinali6283]

That's why Ryan is unimpressed with the flashlight trick now.

[@a.a677]

maybe it couldnt tell which colour was which

[@wangyeo524]

@@a.a677 the ghost freaking out: "which is the blue one?! it's too dark that both flashlights look black to me!" lol!

[@Zero-dead-]

TW: necrophilia and child abuse additional case detail: in the room of the Stilinger sisters, they found seminal fluid on the floor of that bed room and the oldest girl was stripped of her lower garments, was pulled to pose with her hands above her head and the found a bloody handprint on her upper thigh (can't remember which side) the guy was truly a sick minded individual but as horrible as it sounds, I'm glad she wasn't alive to witness that being done to her.....

[@torakunoichi]

There’s a part of my brain that thinks the same thing when I hear this was done to them AFTER they’d died, like it’s a terrible thing that happens to them but the smallest of mercy was they weren’t alive

[@decker528]

I heard a theory the bacon was sitting out because it was used as an aid to the killer pleasuring himself, as awful of a thought as that is

[@twinkletues]

There’s also the theory that the killer did in fact use the bacon instead of using the girl. It’s sad but can be backed up.

[@allylikessplatoon]

reading this makes me sick to my stomach..

[@alec-elijah]

“I don’t believe in ghosts but I do believe that Iowa is haunted” as someone who lives in Iowa, I can confirm this to be true. Iowa is 100% haunted

[@kelsiejanney2397]

Agreed lol

[@tjjordan4207]

What the hell happened there?

[@laurenpeterson6983]

100%

[@lukefarron693]

​@@tjjordan4207 Iowa happened

[@tiffany3597]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZS2dmmvod6praM 💤

[@lukaradic6281]

The guy comes into the house to taunt the spirits and gets stabbed Shane: Hey fucko

[@kayday7497]

This 😂

[@pepethefrog6809]

Here comes the Devil Shane to take your soul in his rib cage, say hello to your roommate, Annabelle. LOL

[@moqueen1]

Shane: “I don’t believe in ghosts but I do believe Iowa is haunted.” Me (Iowa native): “How dare-…… no that’s fair.”

[@caipiranha4714]

Could you explain this ongoing joke for a confused non-american? :'D

[@moqueen1]

@@caipiranha4714 eh just a dig that Iowa is old lol

[@SadJunebug]

@@caipiranha4714 i'm canadian, but iowa just seems a lil off. too many corn fields and small towns, i don't trust it.

[@caitplanchette]

@@SadJunebug Iowa is just the states Saskatchewan

[@KateTheGreatFullOfHate]

@Diana yeah! it was actually shot pretty close to my home town

[@luciferouskris]

As an Iowa native living a little over an hour away, Villisca has always fascinated me. I've been to this house, but I wouldn't chalk it up as haunted in any sense. It's definitely an interesting story.

[@feenie1253]

that moment when ryan feels the bed move, u can kinda see the bedding dip down a bit like someone sits down right where ryan shows shane where he felt it 😭

[@vivivalley]

i replayed it in .25 speed a couple times but i really couldnt see it move at all

[@r31gn]

Ryan saying that the killer couldn’t have snuck around because the floorboards are squeaky. My good sir, the house is now probably 120+ years old. It was new back in the day lol

[@SeamlessTaint]

Bro the way Villisca is they probably invited the killer for supper and to stay the night.

[@chipchippahson]

Construction was completely different back then, houses made a LOT of noise.

[@gunguntrio1247]

It's also believed that he waited until the train came by and used that to mask his noise.

[@THEDnARACER]

@@chipchippahson were you the inspector on site back then?

[@tjjordan4207]

Yeah, I thought the same

[@rubyrose1818]

I'm sorry, but Shane's reaction to Ryan saying ghosts are real and unicorns aren't had me crying 😂😂😂😂

[@Crystelgames]

XD

[@cocacc1573]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZS2dmmvod6praM✍️

[@agirlnameandy]

It's funny how Ryan goes in after Shane has probably pissed off the spirits.

[@AlexandraVioletta]

It's like a couple, married for 50 years. 👫😂

[@strangerdanger499]

@@AlexandraVioletta w h a t.

[@anglaspicycabbage790]

Always been that way, always will be that way.

[@xxvish24xx]

Fabricated personalities

[@shengloongtan229]

Spirit don't exist

[@A_Gh0st_St0le_My_G3nd3r]

it might just be me, but when the murderer was saying 'stop it' and 'stop me', im almost certain i heard the words 'it won' shortly after from the spirt box, this makes me wonder if the killer had mental health issues and perhaps a voice or hallucination continuously bothered them with intrusive thoughts until they snapped and couldnt take it anymore, they seem genuinely sorry as well so i wonder if it was indeed psychological issues that prompted this killing spree anyway, have a good day

[@A_Gh0st_St0le_My_G3nd3r]

at 31:57 i heard 'it made me' as well

[@IvysWhackedWonderland]

I heard “he won” and thought it may have been one of the family members or kids

[@jpeace2956]

Shane makes a great point. Why would the killer’s ghost haunt that house when the killer probably died somewhere else.

[@Chakura]

Yeah I was wondering why it was assume the killer would haunt there. I mean it’s a tragedy but doesn’t seem like any other factors to make it seem like it would be haunted

[@siege824s8]

It usually ghosts haunt a place that hold a huge significant or trauma for that person's life

[@RMS129]

Some people say that your spirit doesn't necessarily haunt where you died but where you had the most connection to. So if you believe that line of thought then it would "make sense" that the house where he killed was where he chose to haunt.

[@Butterfly-yp5wd]

I always wonder that myself

[@YellowRubberDuckie]

@@RMS129 it is like when people are scared of cemeteries and graveyards. Why would it be haunted? Same goes for Mortuaries.

[@erikaaberle6354]

I haven't seen anyone mention that the older stillinger girl was pulled halfway down the bed with her bottom half exposed... And beyond disrespectful to all of the victims that they just let folks walk around the house and look.

[@Claire-qy2xv]

Yeah, and the fact that the bacon wrapped in the dish towel was in the girls’ room makes it that much worse

[@maryshelley5774]

Wow that’s really just all the more despicable and inappropriate that they let townsfolk gawk at a family murdered and worse, the bodies of kids.

[@baileytheboss2235]

They also found seminal fluids on the bacon, as in the killer did things to himself while looking at the poor girls corpse

[@wayfinder8450]

@@baileytheboss2235 wtf 😳

[@baileytheboss2235]

@@wayfinder8450 if you want more like information about it go over to Sam and Colby’s channel, they did a really good job of getting the full details and while it can be corny at times, you get more details then most stories about this house

[@remick5647]

Honestly how messed up would it be for the person who murdered everyone in that house to haunt it after they died? Instead of the murderer haunting the place where they died, they're just like, nah I'm going back to that house, as a ghost, to terrorize ghosts

[@tetewhyelle]

Sounds like the plot of season 1 of AHS

[@midnighttamriel]

when you put it like that, that’s horrifying. “i already killed those people but i’m not gonna let them have peace in the afterlife either” oh my god ???

[@brettbrooks5511]

Well its a good thing ghosts aren't real. #Shaniac

[@Kinobambino]

@@midnighttamriel that's crazy to think about. Wonder how that convo goes

[@accidiaet]

@@Kinobambino my b bruh

[@benjiroberts2631]

Every investigation I see of this place the evidence always includes a man asking people to stop him. I have a feeling the killer was so lost to madness that he was outside himself. I almost feel like those responses come from him watching himself commit the crime. So much adrenaline and pure madness that time was distorted, his view of self was distorted, he was outside himself. He covered any reflection and couldn’t bare to look at any human face. The rush of the kill terrified him as much as it thrilled him. He had no control and he submitted to that, he let himself be consumed. But that’s just my own opinion.

[@sabytopia]

And then he decided he'd sit down and eat dinner

[@benjiroberts2631]

@@sabytopia Hey, murder works up an appetite.

[@lucaswilson4626]

@@sabytopia I can imagine him sitting in the dark just eating dinner silenetly. Thats real creepy

[@bdsmgaming3627]

@@sabytopia and forgot his bacon

[@Escxpe_21]

That's immensely terrifying tbh

[@TheChazzmander]

"You do what you do to make your girlfriend feel safe". Shane, you just make me so proud!!

[@huxley8671]

I'm sad and I love how Ryan's not losing his mind from extreme fear anymore, like he's definitely still a bit scared but Shane kinda rubbed off of him now.

[@nell7692]

i think he’s also better at soothing himself and masking how scared he is. he’s more used to doing these now

[@amandad9789]

Plus he's been in therapy and it seems to be working well for him

[@louschwick7301]

I think after last season, nothing scares him as much anymore

[@justinshepard9352]

they would make a cute couple 💑

[@justinshepard9352]

@Low Bro I'm Irish Catholic and my silly husband is a Satanist and we get along like peas and carrots.

[@ruuvuu]

For #postmortem: The Villisca Ax Murderer is actually most likely an uncaught serial killer. A few years prior to Villisca there was an ax murderer killing families along the train line from california to texas, it went on for years and he was never caught, and one day he just seemingly stopped for no reason. That was until a few years later when the ax murders picked up again in small towns in the midwest. Both murder sprees have similarities like the killer using the victim's own ax and sticking around after the murder and making a meal in the kitchen.

[@fionarenata4198]

#postmortem

[@WhitneyDahlin]

Yes! Thank you! I'm glad someone mentioned that. Also it doesn't make sense they're trying to contact the k*ller when the k*ller clearly escaped and if ghosts are real it would just be the ghosts of victims in the house. And since he k*lled so many more people like why would the k*ller be stuck hunting this particular set of victims house?

[@n.d.m.515]

Sounds like you read the book, The Man From the Train, that is a terrific investigative treatment of the Midwestern axe murders.

[@ruuvuu]

@@n.d.m.515 I actually heard the story on the Lore Podcast!

[@AshleySteinbach]

I was hoping someone would say something about this! I just listened to an episode of Morbid and they talked about it! It seems like the most plausible theory to me considering the similarities.