The Hot Seat Podcast || Deconstructing Salafism in the 21st century [Ep 2]

[@shahid8545]

These Somali brothers and sisters (many of them) are wonderful MashaAllah. May Allah preserve their people.

[@NajashiProductions]

I like how the host doesn’t kiss up or just praise the ustadh, it’s clear that he himself is Salafi but he asks pressing questions and doesn’t show shyness to challenge what the ustadh is saying, and the answer of the ustadh only helps prove the ustadh’s point further. Allahuma barik

[@addiwaye9234]

Adam A that doesn’t mean you ask the same question over and over again, we would benefit a lot more from the sheik, if he wouldn’t repeat the same questions. I myself didn’t know much about all the SELF سلف thing, but the sheik explained well mashallah. To me sheik is library walking may Allah protect him.

[@Lazxyable]

Masha Allah Ustadh Abdur Rahman Hassan is a walking library

[@addiwaye9234]

Lazxyable true 100/%.

[@sherry96544]

AbdulRehman I'm listening to you from Pakistan. I often listen to your lectures. You have given a lot of knowledge over the years. Clarified many topics for me. And I'm eternally grateful for that. Know that you have made me a better muslim through my belief. جزاك لله خيرا Never stop. تقبل الله منك

[@look4yourself650]

Assalamu Alaikum, if you are not already familiar with them, look up Sheikh Mufti Ahmed Rabbani, Sheikh Abu Zayd Zameer and the like from the Ahlul-Hadeeth. They have very good and informative lectures in Urdu with authentic information inshaa Allah. Sheikh Mufti Ahmed Rabbani currently is holding a Tafseer class, definitely look it up if you have time: kzbin.info/door/8yKlzYma7fykEvA5yNpXvQ

[@Omar-Asim]

@@look4yourself650 As salaamu alaikum, do you know where I can read about their qualifications/formal training? baarakallahu feek.

[@mohamudomar7889]

Just like the Ustaadh said There’s a saying “As distance tests a horse’s strength, so does time reveal a person’s real character”

[@imranimii664]

I am from Nigeria and I always used to listing to ustaz abdulrahman Hassan lectures, may Allah reward Him Jannah, I have learned alot from him...i pray onetime one day he will come to Nigeria.

[@shahid8545]

I learned a lot from this 1 episode. Completely clear and straight to the point. Jazakallahu khairan.

[@maktabahabunajwa5475]

Jazakumullahu Khayran, May Allah ease for this show to continue the next episodes, its so beneficial.

[@mystiqur1148]

Alhamdulilah for the clarification at the end!

[@MissionIslamTV]

Really top stuff Ma Sha Allah. Keep it up with this Podcast.

[@hassankhurshid8574]

SubhanAllah what a topic just on time! May Allah reward ustadh in this month of ramadan immensley!

[@tazerous2793]

Ameen ya Rabb!

[@baseeraslam436]

Really love this new series!

[@Yusufakachino]

If the modern age is bugging some people then cut yourself from the dunya. How many times was we told to live a simple life there is wisdom in that. Utilise what Allah has provided us with in this century by adhering to the principle and knowledge of what was told to us 1400 years ago. Ustadh AbdulRahman hassan is right in what he is saying in this podcast may Allah reward his efforts Ameen

[@Lessgoo531]

Miss these talks ❤️ please do more

[@maaz7806]

Very nice discussion.... ماشاء الله

[@fc63]

We need this more !

[@munamaye9366]

The clarity of this podcast Ma Shaa Allah . May Allah guide us to the correct path.

[@yahyaabbie9795]

I like the questioner he is raising good questions likewise the ustaadh sensational answers

[@youssfsiby2427]

Barakallah feek for the video mashallah very beneficial may Allah reward you

[@Jammylune]

I love you Ustadh Abdulrahman for the sake of Allah, keep up the great work that you do.

[@silminawaz3825]

Since we accept the persons statement about a person saying he is a Muslim or a Salafi, and then you check over time the person's actual belief based on his words and actions, then i feel the term salafi is redundant. We could do the same with the word Muslim.

[@maeezshaikh642]

Masha Allah....jazak Allahu khair fidduniya wal aakhira..... Aameen ya rabbul aalameen

[@mahamedjmal2536]

this man is brilliant mashallah. interviewer is good too

[@scorpion32]

With respect , the ustadh side stepped concerns about " Fanaticism towards Saudi Arabia?". When people point to this issue it usually is regarding some people being ultra defenders of whatever the state of saud does even it's crimes . It's like they are protestants in how they fanatically put this state at the centre of their deen in the world . By the way not everyone who criticizes this house of saud is a khariji.

[@renix80]

May Almighty Allah reward you brothers, and preserve you on goodness - Ameen

[@yousuftafhim4888]

BarakAllah feek

[@pearlsofknowledge222]

One point , the translation of the Hadith is not “the best generation is my generation...” , rather it is, “the best of all people is my generation ...”

[@usmanbinabdurrasheed5949]

They are different versions of the same hadeeth

[@sashaayunan5563]

Bro a hadith can be expressed in meaning close to it i.e it is allowed not to do verbatim unlike stating a verse in the Quran then stating it in verbatim way is a must. Most student of knowledge and those who took degree in Islamic studies is aware of this. So theres no harm.

[@ahmdnaube3745]

Can anyone tell me the name of the qari who recited a verse before the beginning of this discussion?

[@Ilyass159159]

Ahmd Naube It's the same usthadh that's is sitting there haha, ustadh abdurahman hassan

[@pearlsofknowledge222]

Please can you link the Quran recitation in the intro ?

[@zakariamohamed2600]

Nouman Khalid it’s a recitation from the usthad himself

[@alhassangangu4357]

Ibn Taymiyyah was a Hanbali jurist and theologian

[@mohamedadow5780]

ماشاءالله كلام رائع و مفيد

[@ahmdnaube3745]

Can somebody tell me who's recitation was that before the start of the discussion?

[@dayaanahmad02me84]

It's the ustaadh himself

[@brothersman524]

Mashallah this was good alhamdulillah

[@alhassangangu4357]

Why can’t we just call ourselves Muslims. That is the name Allah gave us, ayat 77 in suratul Hajj, هو سمّاكم المسلمين من قبل

[@ukhan4231]

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

[@sajO5754]

Who the "grave worshippers" he mentions?

[@jabriljon6770]

Is following the salaf by calling one's self salafi, the same as people following Jesus Christ calling themselves Christians. Has Allah commanded or ordered us to label ourselves. Did Shaykh Bin Baz, Shaykh Uthaymeen, and Shaykh Ibn Jibreen, and Ibn Tamiyyah call themselves salafi

[@aow3834]

Why is the majority of muslims on internet wahhabi? And how is their dawah so strong. I, as maturidi, am always a stranger on internet to other Muslims...

[@samihakimy4739]

You should ask yourself why are you matirudi? Why do you ascribe to a man who came many many years after the companions and their students, as well as going against their belief and understanding? Allah tells us intheQuran in surah Baqarah if we believe the same as the companions we will be guided and it is mentioned in the famous hadeeth that all the groups in Islam will go to hell except the ones on the way of the companions. Also the hadeeth which says the best generations are the first three and Al matirudi was not from them. So how can you leave them and follow someone else? That's what it means to be salafi

[@look4yourself650]

Assalamu Alaikum, I do not think that anyone here called himself "Wahhabi" - in fact, I have never seen anyone call himself Wahhabi and neither have I heard them qouting Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahhab in their arguments, rather they say we take the Quran and the Sunnah with the understanding of the early generations of Islam who were free from creedal differences. For those who ascribe themselves to this methodology - to take their creed from the early generations of Islam (i.e. Sahab, Tabi'een, Atba' Tabi'een), they have support from the Quran and the Sunnah for this. You stated that you are Maturidi, but why ascribe yourself to that person and what to you understand what being Maturidi means and what differentiates them from others?

[@musha3462]

Salaam The problem with salafiya is that it has no basic principles or usool like the four mazahib where a person can trace back the legal ruling to a usooli formula .. So In fact they are all over the place when it comes to rulings becouse they don't have a chain of teachers to the prophet .its a modern trend to follow salafia amongst the youth mostly .. They have slogans such as follow the Quran and sunnah directly from collections from bukhari ,don't follow anyone apart from the prophet and his companions but in reality most salafis will do taqleed of their local friends ..hence Isis claims to follow salafia becouse it can it's a youth movement based on cherry picking sayings of the first three generations to fit their whims and desires .. I think studying any one of the four mazahib is a boon for one's eemaan in this era . and constantly perfecting oneself in tazkiyah . May Allah guide us all ameen

[@samihakimy4739]

Youre confusing two different things. The four imams were imams if fiqh (rulings about actions) and the madhabs were not about aqeedah (belief). All four of them had the same belief which is the belief of the companions and the one that salafis ascribe themselves to. Ask your local imam that you follow what is your aqeedah he will probably say ashari or matirudi that is not the aqeedah of the 3 generations

[@musha3462]

Ashari or maturidi or salafi they all project there beliefs to the salaf only difference is that modern day salafis are close to being mujassima anprothomorfic .. This was the problem with previous religions they made god in time and space with hands and feet like the creation .. May Allah guide us all from heretical beliefs ameen

[@KhalidGreen]

@@musha3462 It is not simply a matter of referring in name to the Salaf; contemporary Salafi scholars follow the math of Ahl Hadeeth in creed and methodology, which can be traced very clearly to how the Companions practiced and understood. However, we cannot say the same of sects like Asharis and Maturities who attribute their creed to individuals after the Salaf that moved away from more literal interpretations and developed their understanding in doctrine from opinion, analogy, and metaphorical interpretation, especially in the Divine Attributes of Allah. Contemporary Salafis reject Mujassima and Anthropomorphism rather they Affirm what Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه و سلم affirm as was articulated in the Book and Sunna.

[@rickyusuf8696]

Mush A Why you consider they anthromorphic? Just because they don’t get rid of the Quran and interpret the names and attributes of Allah in accordance with the 10 statements (or muqaalaat) that the pagan Aristotle came about? Just because their aqeedah is not based on philosophy and “laws” of body and movement by the same author? I don’t find evidence to that in the Quran or sunnah that are above anything else... anybody who wants to understand what the Ash’aris and Maturidis along with the mu’tazilah are upon, he should read the 10 statements of Aristotle, so he would get what they mean when they accuse the Salafis of antromorphism.

[@mia2xi569]

Real salafis are known by their understanding of masaail of imaan and kufr. Let's begin there guys. Forget yelling out ibn baz, uthaymeen, albanj may Allah have mercy on them all. Suprised why no one talks about this.

[@voteukip658]

Mia2 Xi Go to sahih Bukhari and read Kitaab al Eemaan, do the same in Sahih Muslim, Pearls and corals "Darusallam" and Niche of the lamps "DKI".

[@rahimshaipov9388]

asalamun elykum warahmatullahi wabarakatu first comment asahbe

[@abdulmalikh5841]

Manshallah

[@firas.030]

The problem with the term "methodology of the salaf", as been explained by the moroccan scholar Sheikh Mawlud as Sriri (hafidhahullah), is a loose term. It is not clearly defined what is "the methodology" of the salaf. Because even among the salaf there have been different understandings of the quranic and prophetic text, which survived in the 4 schools of thought. What people mean today, when they attribute themselves to the Salafiyah they mean the Atharīyāh school of the Hanabilah. Another problem is, that the brother (may allah preserve him) translated Ilm al Kalam (17:11) with philosophy and this is a translation which could indicate the he doesnt knows what Ilm al Kalam is. The definition of Ilm al Kalam, as given by Sayed Ahmed al Marzuqi or Imam as Sanusi is the affirmation of islamic creed and its defense from any misconceptions. Rather philosophy has nothing to do with ilm al kalam. I also wonder how he could say that there has been a consensus among the salaf that you could call yourself Salaf, and than quotes Ibn Taymiyah (rahimahullah) who wasn't of the first three Generations. And Ibn Taymiyah (rahīmahullah) is known to be very "liberal" when it comes to claiming consensus about a topic. And Allahs knows best

[@SalafiWorld]

Boaz Goldmeyer what your Shaikh, Siriri said makes no sense. From the ways of the people of desires is that they confuse the people about Salafiyah by confusing the consensus of the Salaf on Aqeedah issues with the differences they had on fiqh issues. The Sahaba differd on fiqh indeed, but they had consensus on Aqeedah. Anybody who says other wise is a deviant. The Salafi manhaj would exist with or without Ahmed ibn Hanbel. Kalam my friend is based on Aristotelian logic. They came about with the expansion of Islam in the lands like Shaam were Greek Philosophy existed. They tried to use Aristotelian logic to supposedly defend Islam, instead of using pure Quran and Sunnah.

[@prof.gibson2275]

"im not here to defend salafees" say that again!!

[@SK-gi9rw]

There’s a difference between the way of the salafs and the current people that call themselves salafis. Following the current salafis only leads to division and hatred for other Muslims.

[@addiwaye9234]

Every question the host was asking was answered scholarly and academically but either he is ignorant or don’t want to. Honestly I’m not religious person but I learned a lot from this episode and understand the word SELEFI. سلف.. Sheik is very knowledgeable.

[@AB-xx7hy]

The host was playing devils advocate

[@alhassangangu4357]

Salifiyya in the early generation?

[@nazmulslater8398]

Typical saudi salafi lying about Muslim brotherhood. Why didnt you critisize sisi and the saudi regime who toppled Morsi which was haram to do so? Lying is haram and so is deceiving.

[@nazmulslater8398]

You say Morsi wanted power not to rule by Islam wheres your evidence for this? The oppresive rulers you defend want power not to rule by Islam. So why didnt you critisize them?

[@SK-gi9rw]

The four madhabs are part of the time of the salaf.

[@kazihussain5662]

What consensus? Madhab as Salaf does not mean Salafi, this is a misinterpretation of what Ibn Taymiyyah meant. Sadly, in essence these people who ram salafiyyah down your throat are not happy with what Allah SWT described us with, that is Muslim. Making an analogy between the Munafiqun and trying to test whether someone is a "proper muslim" then that is from the characteristics of the khawarij. Allah knows best

[@addiwaye9234]

The host is ignoring the answer and repeating the same question over and over again. This is the chance we out to take advantage and clarify the misconception and learn the word the movement which the sheik clarified beautifully, hafiduhu Allah.

[@revert2014]

I respect Ustadh and I always appreciate his knowledge. However there's been a lot of fitna which has come with ascribing yourself to a particular school of thought or sect. Bottomline.. I will just stick being a 'Muslim' and may Allah accept our humble and sincere actions. Ameen 🤲🏾

[@user-tt6nc6mo7k]

What fitna????

[@a.g1985]

263 Fitness salafi is not a sect! It just means predecessor who are Sahaba, Tabeen and atbau tabeen the best three generations our prophet peace and be blessings upon him praised them!

[@thewolf1801]

@Jibril H "salafiya" is a sect that emerged about a hundred years ago by freemasons in Egypt go look this up

[@ExtremeShez]

263 Fitness What you studied regarding Salafiyyah, ascription in Islam and this things? I interested dear brother/sister. May Allah bless you.

[@thewolf1801]

@@Yusufmaghreb both sects are inspired by freemasons in egypt namely Jamal Al deen afghani and muhammad abduh

[@SK-gi9rw]

The majority of the early scholars attributed themselves to one of the four madhabs. This is indisputable.