The Humans at the Center of the US Immigration Debate | Ali Noorani | TED

How does a nation reconcile when its identity is at odds with its policies? Ali Noorani traces the arc of the US immigration debate to show a safer and more compassionate way forward, highlighting why centering human dignity creates lasting bonds and healthier communities.
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[@oldguy2764]

I am an American. I cannot cross any US border legally without proper documentation!

[@Ydnar1155]

That seems like a crime to me!

[@luodeligesi7238]

the documentation is so you can come back. You can walk into Mexico with no documents all you want, but good luck coming back.

[@oldguy2764]

@@luodeligesi7238 That is the point. If an American cannot return to the US, without proper documentation, why should illegal aliens be able to come into the US without US passport or visa?

[@jessicaperez4763]

FYI: Americans don’t need a passport to enter Mexico or Canada by vehicle. But you do need one to return to the US.

[@noskpain2792]

​@@jessicaperez4763 yes you do lol. Mexican immigration requirements a passport to enter the country.

[@jasonmiller7409]

I wonder how many economic migrants from the third world he has welcomed to his gated community.

[@johnsimpson5471]

The guy that washes is toilets

[@mso1ps4]

Which definition of Third World?

[@jasonmiller7409]

@@mso1ps4 all of them

[@subcitizen2012]

Have you been keeping economic migrants out of your community?

[@DeliberativeDegenerate]

I support a stricter immigration policy

[@colin7406]

It takes 2 years to get someone from a non first world country into the US even with a pledge of marriage. What more do you want? Indians and Filipinos are already the highest payed races due to how strict the immigration policy is. What is your suggestion

[@superpowerdragon]

@@colin7406 i want only the migrants that already has or are willing to change their culture and beliefs to the country who they are migrating to. this applies to all countries obviously, that includes first world countries to first world countries, third world countries to first world countries or first world countries to third world countries. i also want educated people, so at least a college degree. i would also charge them a high fee (about 50000usd), so that only the rich migrate to my country. btw, a lot people likes to think that i am a white supremacist, but i am not, i am east asian, i just like my country to have higher a level of homogeneity, which creates a more dynamic world where each country is a bit different

[@mso1ps4]

@@superpowerdragon No one asked you.

[@gregbors8364]

@@superpowerdragon Are you saying you don’t live in the US?

[@AJX-2]

@@colin7406 Make it 3 years

[@randy9simmonsup658]

People need to fix the problems in their own country

[@dduay]

Which are created by US?

[@randy9simmonsup658]

@@dduay more excuses

[@mingkeyang6926]

@@dduay so that’s the excuse to destroy the US by flocking into this country illegally and enjoy the benefits without even thinking about making contributions first?

[@randy9simmonsup658]

Americans have nowhere to flee to, this is the last stand for freedom so we better fix our country too. The liberals are getting out of control

[@subcitizen2012]

Is that what you are doing on your country?

[@kangarooninja2594]

My great-grandparents immigrated to Texas from Mexico, legally. They came here and embraced America, raised their children to be responsible citizens, and they built a good life here. They appreciated being here, made this their home, and never insisted that they were entitled to be here, that they had some historical right. The "immigrants" who come here now behave as though they are entitled, they break our laws coming here illegally, they bring drugs and violence, they neglect their children who then become delinquents and criminals, they overwhelm our government services, take what they didn't contribute to building, and do all of this as though they're entitled to. They wave their flags and shout "La Raza!", which means "The Race!" and don't let these leftist liars pretend that it means something else, it's a slogan that means exactly what it says. It means tribalism, it means taking from those who aren't them, it means that they believe they are entitled and do not care about assimilating, it means they are here to take what they want from you. Of course, this isn't everyone from south of the border, I'm Mexican myself, but it isn't a small percentage. They are millions, they hate you, they want what you have and are willing to take it from you in any way they can. These leftist, champagne-socialists don't have to worry about this, not in their neighborhoods, it's not their kid's schools being overrun by violence and having their classrooms being overcrowded and resources diverted to teaching children who neither speak the common language here nor are willing to learn. No, they can stand on stage and preach to you about how unfair some made up, emotionally charged anecdote is and how it's your fault for not putting them before you. They'll stand there and lie right to your face about how this fairy tale is representative of the millions who invade our country and show no respect and even hatred toward us, which is evident in the many thousands of your children who are killed in the streets, fed the drugs they bring, sexually abused and trafficked because of their vile culture of permissive abusive behavior by men towards women and girls. No, they just want the power that the new votes will bring them, and they don't mind paying for it with the future of your children, the destruction of your cities, and your spilled blood, they and theirs will be fine. Anyone who cares about their children and their country needs to vote these traitors out in November, it's either them or you.

[@mso1ps4]

Tribalism is a social/economic 'us vs them' mentality, which is what you've shown with this comment.

[@mso1ps4]

@@vincentyoung8472 How is that relevant?

[@reggierec9234]

So then let them live with you. Don't ask everyone to do what you wouldn't do yourself. You want everyone to take responsibility and sacrifice their quality of life for people who come in this country illegally? Why don't you take them all in?

[@Ydnar1155]

One day you will eat your words.

[@toastsoup489]

@@Ydnar1155 That's right, keep bootlicking inmigrants

[@luodeligesi7238]

no one is asking you to take them into your home, unless your house happens to be the size of the country. By that logic, I had no say in you being in the US either, so why am I sacrificing my quality of life for your existence?

[@harshbutt]

@@luodeligesi7238 Is he there legally, though? You don't need to have a say on whether he can be in the US or not, the law does that for you. There's a big difference between "migrant" and "criminal migrant." If you need to break the law to get some place you don't belong there.

[@colin7406]

I would if I could, the US rejects my offer unless I promise to marry them

[@luisdanielmartinezgonzalez7690]

Here we are

[@kangarooninja2594]

And far too many of you have overstayed your welcome and abused our hospitality.

[@luisdanielmartinezgonzalez7690]

@@kangarooninja2594 I’m living so happy in my country, I don’t need your hospitality, but thank you, anonymous person 😊

[@kangarooninja2594]

@@luisdanielmartinezgonzalez7690 I didn't say you in particular, I was saying that in general there are too many here abusing hospitality. You don't come to the home of another and tell them what's for dinner, especially if you weren't invited.

[@davidspringer4019]

First of all, American are aware of the food shortage. There are so many pieces of the pie, while you can say we can grow more food, 11 million slices three times a day is a huge chunk, which raises the question, do we have the farms to do it? Second, this isn't about the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect, it is about food, houses, jobs, land, monetary resources, taxes, and...you get the picture, plus 11 million makes a good size army. How much can America, Americans afford? If I let even one into my home, it more than strains my resources, it's the same as a nation. What about citizen's American dream. Yes, we need to do something. I suggest we teach them agriculture, how to build homes, fight back against their political system. We did it during the civil war, and so can they. Honor comes from fighting against oppression. inviting them in only makes them weak (male them believe that they can't do it). If I were you, I'd look at both side of the picture before giving another talk. I don't agree with you Mr. Noorani. Americans are angry because they know this. it makes us nervous. At some point I have to stop letting my family use my resources, my food, my home or we;d all starve as a family.

[@akash_goel]

Excuse me, but thats a very narrow understanding of the world that we live in. Its absolutely a myth that America is having a shortage of food/water/housing etc. America is nowhere nearly as populated as the rest of the world (Europe, Asia and Africa). The land is fertile and the average worker productivity is the highest in the world. Not only is America self-sufficient in food, it is in fact one of the largest exporters of food grains in the world (behind Ukraine and Canada). America has the strongest military and can defend itself against any external threat. It has one of the strongest legal enforcement systems in the modern world. Average person consumes more than 1.5x of their daily caloric intake requirement. There is ample supply of water from fresh water lakes and rivers (some of them need to be tapped more to provide a much better supply though). You know what America is actually short on? People. Its people who build new houses, work on developing new water pipelines, participate in the army and the police as well as provide the hope that we like to call future. And you cannot do all that if wages are high and there's an energy crisis going on (which makes everything more expensive naturally). Get more people, stabilize wages and invest in the nation's infrastructure, otherwise it won't take more than a few odd decades for other high-growth nations to leave America behind.

[@davidspringer4019]

@@akash_goel And you live in denial that there is not a problem. If there isn't a problem, why are so many in America starving? Why don't food banks have food to give to the poor? Wise up and open your eyes. Stop repeating what Musk says, it just makes you look uninformed. Overpopulation is one of our biggest problems. We KNOW hundreds of thousands come into America draining our resources. Our military is well trained, but fewer and fewer join. You're deluded.

[@subcitizen2012]

Almost 1/3rd of US food supply is wasted every year. That's enough for 100 million extra people at current capacity. Let these people work and they become America s and part of the economy and we can all prosper and they will add to the resources. You really shouldn't be so damned ignorant, but that's your choice.

[@jimmoore9981]

Unless the arrive in DC or NYC

[@overcomersgroupllc.4198]

Interesting!

[@DBSSTEELER]

Resources are finite. We can’t accept every thirdworlder with a sob story.

[@donlemons]

People move around. People look after eachother. There are good people and bad people. Why do some people worry about someone coming or going? It's happened all down the road of history. Stop worrying

[@faheda.al-slepi6949]

so what?!

[@eileenmcgovern9193]

That young woman is a criminal…she entered illegally

[@lt4376]

Agreed she is. But honestly if you don’t do something more severe than just give your opinion in the comment section then all you’ll continue to have is traitors in our government who will tell you to vote Red, while you age, and yet the patterns will repeat and repeat and repeat, regardless of Red or Blue in office, and so on until you expire. What did your comments accomplish? What did your votes accomplish? It started in 1969. Vote White.

[@themanwnoname3454]

2022(G) “Respect and dignity.” Furthermore:

[@dsinc36]

We have laws for a reason. If I suggested that anyone here leave their yard and house open to everyone who wanted to go in, you would think I was insane. Our country's border is no different. There are legal processes in place to come to America, if you try to come here outside those processes you are doing it illegally... you might be harmless, you might not, but there is no way to know when you sneak in.

[@mso1ps4]

Following your anology, that would mean that we already own our neighbor's houses and they also own ours. I don't think that comparison holds up unless you are a very generous person.

[@bryanalejandro7323]

Where was this policy when Europeans came to the Americas by the droves in ships? In case you weren’t aware there were already civilizations present on both North and South America. They had customs, borders, and established trade and relations between each other.

[@dsinc36]

@@mso1ps4 No, that does not follow. Think of America as our home, not that we own each other's houses...not the same.

[@subcitizen2012]

There's no way to know when it's legal process either. If all you need to be satisfied with them is documented status, then you should be an advocate for expodited status. They can just hand out citizenship at the border. Then everyone is legal. Problem solved. The only reason there's a problem is because of people like you, you're the problem.

[@subcitizen2012]

The US is one of the least densely populated countries in the world. There's plenty of room inside the borders. Don't compare it to your home out of ignorance.

[@rajkumartripathi1973]

Hola everyone

[@Ydnar1155]

Hola amigos!

[@blueturkey]

I just want to say that I dislike TED. I don't know if anyone else has expressed their dislike or not. I just wanted the TED organization to know that they do not have my support.

[@mso1ps4]

poor bait

[@adrianam.7679]

If you don't like it, don't watch it.

[@blueturkey]

Very difficult to find any instances of paradigm change or similar. Straight down the scientific line without any divergence from the norm. One cannot expect to have advancement under these conditions. That is my argument; not out of naiivety but from philosophy. If the TED lectures encompass these variations, then they are rare. I cite the banned talks of Graham Hancock, Rupert Sheldrake and Nick Hanauer if you feel like looking them up.

[@adrianam.7679]

@@blueturkey Thanks for the recommendation. I saw TED more as a way to hear things usually not available to me, but you are correct that divergence is important to get a full or at least better picture. Will check out those you mention to get a better picture of what you mean.

[@oldguy2764]

WOKE MUCH ! ! ! ! !

[@varshavyas6234]

So good.

[@sallyjones7596]

If I want to immigrate to Mexico, I have to have and be able to prove $2600 a month income. I’m happy to put that kind of requirement on humans that want to immigrate to the US.

[@subcitizen2012]

So technically you don't qualify to be here either?

[@Bergstromoliver]

Immigration Policy

[@Anonymouss222]

First

[@50man1]

This might sound harsh but the us is full. The cities are running out of water,we have housing shortages everywhere and doctors are in short supply, traffic is horrible and it is only getting worse.

[@jestermoon]

Why are they doing to the only country with a constitution based on Freedom? I am with you brother's and sister's. Stay Free

[@mso1ps4]

83 countries are classified as 'free' and of those, the USA ranks 14ᵗʰ for personal liberty.

[@jestermoon]

@@mso1ps4 I have been indoctrinated, forgive me.

[@nellaqi]

I am South African. Need to literally flee my country for the safety of my children. There is no future. There is death and unthinkable violence everyday. Electricity supply is scheduled, so so sometimes you have it or you don't. My kids 17 & 16 have never been in trouble. We have no safe haven. Now the dream of Texas looks even less possible. I have been the victim of violent crimes 4 times already. My kids have never had the privilege to take a SAFE bus or train ride. Now "getting out" is even less of a possibility. Texas doesn't want more people - America doesn't want more people🤷🏻‍♀️😔

[@user-wp8yx]

Why texas? Why not go somewhere else?

[@50man1]

Your people need to stand up ad fight for your country

[@bsinclairfuturebillionaire]

Learn self defense

[@kangarooninja2594]

My great-grandparents immigrated here to Texas, from Mexico, legally. I can certainly sympathize with people who want to immigrate here, it's wonderful. But the problem isn't that we don't want immigrants, the problem is that we have people coming here without going through the proper channels, and so many of them are violent criminals, or are simply coming to make money, exploit the system, and are not refugees at all. And yes, the people who want to follow the rules and really do need to flee oppressive systems and violence suffer because of the bad ones. The only way we can fix the problem and bring the right people here and in the right way is to strengthen our borders and stop buying the nonsense that people like the man in this video keeps pushing. I do hope you make it here, I promise you that Texans don't hate immigrants. In fact, we've benefitted a great deal from one South African immigrant in particular. We'd certainly welcome more. Good luck.

[@Seeker7257]

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[@helpmychildren2555]

🤲🇵🇸🇵🇸🤲

[@ludelirio7965]

Let’s open my borders

[@bsinclairfuturebillionaire]

No one ever publically discusses how immigration hurts Black Americans.

[@kangarooninja2594]

We wouldn't want to show dissension in the ranks. All non-white, LGBTQ+, immigrant, and anyone that isn't a blonde-haired, blued-eyed old white man must believe the same thing and vote the same way. It is leftist law, lol.

[@noskpain2792]

As a Hispanic American Illegal immigration damages minorities and undercuts them in jobs.

[@toneybond547]

Oh a thief is not a thief if what was stolen has NO VALUE. GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE TO CITIZENSHIP OR GO HOME! Citizenship of the U.S.A. is VERY VERY VALUABLE

[@mso1ps4]

What are they stealing that has no value to you?

[@Clothahump1]

Come in legally, you are welcome. Break the law and sneak in, you are a criminal. Simple as that.

[@lataramooji5234]

Unfortunately we are becoming less tolerant towards humanity.

[@CEO458]

Tolerance without limits becomes exploitation.

[@stevenporter863]

Less tolerant? Just enforcing US laws like any other country enforces their laws. Those who feel otherwise may not even realize they are being disrespected. Sorry if it hurts illegal immigrants dignity.

[@mso1ps4]

@@stevenporter863 ok grandpa let's get you back inside

[@stevenporter863]

@@mso1ps4 You gonna leave your front door open when you go to bed too?

[@kangarooninja2594]

@@mso1ps4 Mock all you like, the political pendulum is swinging back to the right. Enjoy the small amount of time your side has left, November is coming quickly, and then on to '24.

[@maartentoors]

Borders are made by... People. Borders are the problem. Ef Borders, and Ef visa. We are all one.

[@maartentoors]

There is a book by a dutch author 'Harry Mulisch' "The Discovery of Heaven" Read it. Please.

[@maartentoors]

@@vincentyoung8472 Is bliss

[@captainkirk217]

@@maartentoors we appreciate you thinking of him so, but it's more important you stop being completely obtuse.

[@Ydnar1155]

History is going to look poorly at any anti immigration advocates. We need everyone, we will accept you all. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled massed yearning to breath free....