The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes Pitch Meeting

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Nearly a decade after the release of The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2 and the end of Katniss’s’s’ story, The Hunger Games are BACK, with an a kind-of-all-new tale about everyone’s least favorite tyrannical President, Corialanus Snow.
The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes definitely raises some questions. Like did they set out to make the longest title possible? How many times do they say Lucy Gray’s name and how many times does she sing? Are we rooting for the guy that runs the kids-killing-each-other competition? Why does this movie feel like two movies?
To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes!
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[@ianweech]

"He sentences him to 20 years of being Eminem" That was solid.

[@gerry40404]

That's exactly what I thought about him at that point in the movie. He looks exactly like Eminem used to.

[@Flip_Flop82]

Ohh, that was TIGHT

[@Baronnax]

@@gerry40404 Eminem basically owns the clean shaven white guy + short cropped blonde hair look now.

[@mr.joshua6818]

*8 Mile theme starts playing*

[@PanSpaceman]

talk about a shady villain. but it makes sense, the odds of him getting away with that were slim.

[@Mina-hm2og]

"How to make a child murderer sympathetic? Make him handsome". Ouch, that is so accurate it hurt.

[@samblack5313]

He’s about as handsome as phoebe wall bridge.

[@SeenAGreatLight]

*Anakin liked that

[@emilygrace8314]

No cause the amount of people I’ve seen skimping over and defending him on TikTok is INSANE. Like they’re saying he wasn’t bad in this movie but he literally was??

[@ceasarsaran8573]

@@SeenAGreatLight Anakin was handsome, and mace Windu being a douche made him more sympathetic.

[@Baeraad]

At least in the book, I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be particularly sympathetic - he's just a ruthless bastard who's also an underdog, so you kind of root for him anyway. People love underdogs, I'm sure I heard someone say that once. ;) Though I can imagine that that's a little too much nuance for a lot of people, sadly.

[@Flipitmixit]

4:19 The fact that there was a whole movie after the movie was insane😂

[@user-ul8xu8sk5i]

True. Also true that "Part 1" would not have been well received. Sometimes books just aren't meant to be made into movies.

[@yamanibryant-mccray2243]

YES I WAS SHOOK

[@vanyadolly]

That'll teach people to complain about Return of the King 😂

[@sloreo8278]

"About 6 more times than feels comfortable" is way too accurate. I consistently flipped between 'yah this is a decent movie' and 'was this produced by Disney'. Her singing was good but felt so out of place.

[@violetlavi2207]

The fact that it feels out of place when the rest of the movie is so brutal in tone is the point - Lucy Gray’s singing sets her apart from the others and makes her stand out (she’s a performer at heart, and she’s the first to set that precedent for the Games becoming about spectacle)

[@AwesTex]

@@violetlavi2207I get that point but having her sing a fun diddy one scene before she says “I still have one foot in the arena” really undermined the point of how much she might have been struggling to adjust. Tonally the whole third act seemed really off. Like they wanted us to get the constant sense of fear without it detracting from budding romance. Just like the original Hunger Games trilogy, the third act just REALLY misses the mark

[@mxtw7910]

@@violetlavi2207it was all over the place though. Slave accent and style songs one second, country accent and style songs the next and pop style singing the next. The singing inconsistency didn’t make sense at all and was actually super jarring. Should have been way more subtle and endearing

[@essennagerry]

​@@AwesTex I get what you mean but don't you think stuff that are tonally off in this way are still realistic? I'd argue real life is often tonally inconsistent like that. I just wonder where the line is or should be or where most people want the line to be between a piece of art that is realistic and that is congruent enough within itself. I felt fine with that tonal inconsistency because I often perceive it that way irl and it doesn't bother me. I'd like to understand your point of view better because I think most people feel this way whereas I tend to be much more fine with parts of the narrative seemingly being disconnected and chaotic. Like for example I really liked the "too funny" Thor movie and for me the comedy didn't at all take away from the drama. It made it more realistic to me. Life to me feels like a mixture of genres. Maybe it's just this way for people like me who can cry bcs of depressive feels, make a joke, crack at their own joke, then continue crying bcs of depressive feels. I'm just trying to understand the experience and the perception of people who notice these tonal inconsistencies - I only notice after someone points it out like you did. Though for me the third act did feel off as well and certain things felt off for me the whole time except maybe just during the games. I never really understood what Lucy Grey's deal is and I'm not sure if we were meant to or not, or if maybe her character is the type of person I'd find hard to read irl too.

[@SeraphsWitness]

"realistic" does not mean "good writing". If you're going to do a song that is tonally off for the situation on purpose, you have to do it tactfully. The original Willy Wonka movie is a great example. The songs are endearing and enchanting, but with an edge of mystery and unease. They're entirely designed to put you on the edge of comfort and intrigue. That's a much more deft hand than just jumping from one genre to another in way that feels anachronistic. @@essennagerry

[@Bizarro69]

"you've got a movie for me?" "Hitler, but young, and HOT." - an actual pitch meeting 10 years from now probably.

[@Monkchelle_Kongbama]

for real though, we can seemingly romanticize any of history's tyrants except that guy for some reason

[@zimriel]

@@Monkchelle_Kongbama Give it time, or more exactly give Qatar time

[@AngryAuditor]

"Napoleon" pitch meeting seems to have been "take the guy who brought needless slaughter and suffering to much of Europe but make it EPIC looking!"

[@debochch]

A young, hot, black, bi-sexual girl Hitler ethnically cleansing a certain race "between the river and the sea". Netflix will love it.

[@thepubknight6144]

​@@Monkchelle_Kongbama Hither has been romanticized alot in conspiracy theories That's that most unsettling part

[@vonwux]

_The most effective rat poison to ever exist_ - Said with the enthusiasm of someone working in the naming things department!

[@lance134679]

Hey you referenced that other thing! 👍

[@user-pq8qn5df7z]

THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!

[@BrainStormzFTC]

The funny thing is that rat poison is basically just somewhat concentrated Advil. The writers clearly had no idea what they were doing...

[@Geek-A-Geddon]

​@@user-pq8qn5df7z I'm just gonna shorten that.

[@la_scrittice_vita]

Weirdly, _Only Murders in the Building's_ last season also used laughably effective rat poison where a sprinkle on a cookie dropped a 190 lb man in 8 minutes. Seems the current crop of Hollywood writers can't be bothered to do a Wikipedia level of research.

[@craigw.scribner6490]

"So he sentences him to twenty years of being Eminem." Priceless! Thanks, Ryan, for another Pitch Meeting and more good laughs!

[@Blake1720]

Lol ikr? I said the same to my husband in the theater haha

[@OrigamiShinigami]

"We are SO expendable, my dude! Hold me" "I'M IN!" That got me. Good sign for the episode

[@ClanImprobable]

Me too!

[@Nabo42]

"There's still about an hour left though." You know someone in the audience had this realization while watching the movie and wept a little.

[@caitrionamcgee114]

That was me.

[@drafezard7315]

To be fair, I made that exact realization for the new Dune film. Having the climax happen 90 min into a 150 min film brought it down so hard.

[@raulduke5371]

I was there. I had this realization. It was like “Prostate Exam: The Sequel”.

[@Arphemius]

@@drafezard7315 Dune isn't out yet, is it? Or do you mean part 1? In which case, it's the first half of one novel, the climax of the story hasn't really happened yet.

[@thebatman4279]

I had that feeling after the Riddler arrest scene in The Batman. Good film but damn, that last hour is brutal.

[@What.99]

“Now every fart sounds like a secret.” That killed me lmao.

[@kimreni]

Did it kill you because silent farts are deadly? 😏

[@thePsiMatrix]

A sentence none of us expected to hear...

[@kinglibra6179]

🤣 that part

[@kevinsantos8439]

the rat poison killed me

[@SethrenJensen]

Same! Good old fashioned gut buster, there! ^^

[@user-kr4ly3fu6w]

In the book, he didn't provide her with the poison. He gave her the compact. She got the rat poison from the zoo where the tributes were being held. He gave her the idea, but not the poison.

[@user-kr4ly3fu6w]

@sergei_mikhailovich in the movie, he gave her the poison. In the book, he gave her the compact and the idea of using the rat poison which surrounded them at the zoo where tributes were imprisoned.

[@sergei_mikhailovich]

@@user-kr4ly3fu6w oh, sorry, I misread your original post. I haven't read the book yet

[@Tsukaiyo]

I don't mind this change. President Snow's preferred way of getting rid of political rivals is poison, so starting this here works

[@Sancyria]

As a Hunger Games fan I loved all of these: The Book, The Movie and The Pitch Meeting :D

[@sonofvergil]

Watching a Pitch Meeting for a movie you didn't even know came out is TIGHT!

[@MrAgentTurner]

Lmaooo

[@balrighty3523]

And it’s super-easy, barely an inconvenience!

[@nour2146]

I knew about it but I saved my money from a box office flop

[@my3dviews]

Wow wow wow............................................................................................................wow.

[@nour2146]

@@my3dviews oh saying wow multiple times is tight!

[@sob160]

"Surviving because of how much you smell is tight." Well said. May The Stench Be Ever in Your favor!

[@BeTheSpecial]

May The Odors Be Ever In Your Favor

[@clit_niblr0375]

May the Old Spice be ever nearby.

[@CorePathway]

Wow wow wow. Wow.

[@God_Is_An_Atheist]

May the stench be with you.

[@drbjr99]

20 years of Eminem sounds terrible.

[@lilvenom7876]

“Lucy Grey I’ll try to remember that” “Don’t worry sir you won’t have too because theirs gonna say her name 10,000 times” Lmao couldn’t be more spot on with that

[@jenwil2875]

Yes! Thank you! They said "lucy gray" like a 100 times in the movie!

[@thomasboaz9950]

As well as the book.

[@VSMOKE1]

I hate you more than you will ever know

[@flamingsword7341]

Lucy gray is her first name (her last name is Baird). It’s a double name like Lily Rose or Harvey Lee. It just sounds weird cuz it’s a made up name like most of the names in hunger games, but totally understand why you might find it annoying to hear over and over again.

[@willholland1778]

@@flamingsword7341lots of the names have deeper meanings to them. Lucy gray is a poem about a girl who got lost in the snow . It’s very poetic

[@flamingsword7341]

@@willholland1778 ooh I didn't know that. neat!

[@SpideyWarsStudios]

This was the first movie I've ever seen where I genuinely wasn't sure what was supposed to be happening during the climax, or why things were even happening

[@alexanderadams8372]

Same o.o

[@youngstar312]

? What are you confused about. Maybe I could explain some stuff?

[@MegaJestify]

That’s cause they crammed a huge book that was all internal dialogue into one movie and left you to assume so much

[@siennaskye_journey]

If you didn’t read the book, I can definitely see why it would’ve been confusing. The book was amazing though! I have difficulty focusing when reading, but I had no trouble with Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes!

[@youngstar312]

@@MegaJestify Kinda, but a lot of stuff is just done very subtle. Like slight face expressions by Snow.

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

“Coral anus” is a great joke but getting surgery sponsored by unesco is an even better one 😂

[@k.chriscaldwell4141]

Few will catch that, but 🤣we did. 👍

[@James-mb3je]

I liked "my farts sound like secrets"

[@PM-gf1nj]

Elaborate, please. I am too dumb to get them.

[@L33Reacts]

I fucking lol'd

[@hoid9407]

The colon whisper was absolutely hilarious.

[@Spence_721]

“That’s a good point no one’s ever happy.” I was not ready for that accurate statement.

[@SamanthaLaurier]

The amount of times I've been informed of a movie I didn't know existed by the Pitch meeting video for it is more than I expected it to be

[@bazilwreckerloughead]

I like how they just kept calling that guy 'kid murder man' instead of his name...solid stuff right there!

[@sayresrudy2644]

😅😂. and “he kid murders”

[@Surferion]

You mean CoralAnus?

[@factorfitness3713]

I mean, his name is Coral Anus, so probably better that way.

[@EricaRichter28]

@@factorfitness3713Lmao

[@EricaRichter28]

@@factorfitness3713Fun fact: Coriolanus is a Shakespeare play

[@adamjanos2]

High amount of pitch meeting lore in this one.

[@joshuawebster5847]

I just can't tell which of these guys is the boss because neither one has a commanding mustache.

[@danpsou]

Pitch meeting lore is TIGHT!

[@mipmipmipmipmip]

It must have been hard to include so much pitch lore!

[@69Kevrod2012]

@@mipmipmipmipmip yea yea yea yea... yea!

[@matthewpatrick7263]

@@mipmipmipmipmipNo; it was super easy - barely an inconvenience!

[@pedroteixeira1799]

The Eminem bit got me laughing so hard I almost coughed a lung. As always genius pitch meeting

[@warzone8023]

Time stamp?

[@alphagerudo6242]

STAN LIVES 👐 It was all a dream

[@rouelandrewpulma9799]

That "Oh my god what?" moment when they mention that the movie still had about an hour to it was my exact response when the film dragged on. It felt like that whole "Lucy Gray surviving the snakes while singing thing" was super climactic only for the tension to just flatten out afterwards until the film ended. I understand that this is pretty much how the book also went, but that's also the reason why film adaptations are "adaptations". A visual medium requires a more compact type of storytelling than a written medium.

[@monmothma3358]

Yup. Didn't think it was too bad because I was prepared, but there is such a thing as being TOO close to the book, and Francis Lawrence is the man for that. Now the other books are great, and Suzanne Collins is a genius, but seriously, her self-discipline went out the window with the prequel. It was much longer than the other books and had _major_ pacing issues. It would have needed a lot of changes to work as a movie. Instead those issues carried over.

[@DrakeBarrow]

That "We're both so disposable" bit was pure gold. Also, sentenced to be Eminem for twenty years got me to inhale my drink.

[@jimdoherty4108]

I would never risk trying to drink something while watching one of these

[@mbryson2899]

It's only bad if you get the first 20.

[@GuyjinOnline]

@@jimdoherty4108 I guess it's better than inhaling a little bit of "THE MOST EFFECTIVE REST POISON TO EVER EXIST!"

[@claireh1508]

"handsome kid murder-man" is not a phrase I woke up today expecting to hear 😂

[@Dude-xb3xh]

1:38 that brick joke was so well connected and written and unexpected that it makes me love the writing of this even more

[@beaudure01]

UNESCO covering the cost of surgery is one of the most wonderfully random yet on point references ever.

[@deltawolf8636]

"We should hug each other after this" I'd love to see Ryan hugging himself. Prob be super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@keylacmckemp1309]

Hugging yourself is tight.

[@user-dy3up3ov9o]

This is the funniest one I've seen in quite a bit. I actually laughed out loud when the producer yawned.

[@ConeJellos]

You laughed out loud!? You madman!

[@TenFalconsMusic]

I actually yawned just before he did. Then his yawn made me yawn again. I'm so excited not to see this movie.

[@eugenetswong]

I'm so glad that he did. I was getting bored of this video, but his yawn confirmed to me how boring the story was.

[@georgem3456]

Such a bad idea to have a drink while hearing "the colon would be silent". Apparently, there are many orifices that pop can use to evacuate the body.

[@aliibrahim3264]

Every time you say "aweoo!" I laugh heartily at how expressive and carefree it sounds. I hope it becomes a much more frequent catchphrase. Also, the "every fart sounds like a secret" delivery feels like a snippet of a commercial which I would love to see on your other channel. You're an addictive comedy treasure

[@FujioParis]

"Now every fart sounds like a secret 🤫" - they made an entire prequel movie just so this line could be created and said so eloquently. Thank you to the many hands involved

[@ZootSuitNewt]

Many hands involved? I'm not sure you know how farts work.

[@commandercaptain4664]

@@ZootSuitNewt Well, not with that attitude...

[@mrcat3493]

First Eminem shows up in Mordor in Rings of Power, now he's in Panem. The dude gets around.

[@zimriel]

... please stand up

[@evanward4303]

He has a driver names Stan

[@thebatman4279]

I'm thankful because these films would feel so empty without him.

[@TheRealJellyBomb]

Try to sleep through the night or you'll notice him standing silently over your bed, staring 🛌😱

[@Ultimatum602]

Eminem even took a detour into Fortnite, SlimShady is wild

[@cn.st.182]

Holy crap that Coriolanus joke was elaborate as FK. Damn. Three stages, all of them smart, creative and funny. Wow.

[@mazvitaselemani]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the group of kids that for some reason wanted to kill Lucy but not eachother? Or how Snow and his friend got in and out of the arena like it was nothing... or how Snow made it back into district 12 and no one even questioned that he was missing😭

[@steverliu1886]

Super easy! Barely an inconvenience!

[@258Dandaman]

All those things are easily explained if you paid attention Making temporary alliances with enemies in dangerous situations is pretty common. It literally happened in all the other Hunger Games movies. Also some of them did in fact kill each other in this one Sejanus got in cuz he went in the middle of the night and bribed a peacekeeper. Snow got in cuz the head game maker arranged for him to. Also they barely got out alive

[@PunoBendito]

@@258Dandamandidn’t explain how at the end snow didn’t get questioned at all for having been missing and then just showing back up at 12

[@258Dandaman]

​When did Snow go missing? You mean when he went to the lake? It was one afternoon, peacekeepers have days off too. Or are you referring to something else? I saw the movie twice, but it's been a couple of weeks now, so it's not as fresh in my memory

[@PunoBendito]

@@258Dandaman when he runs away with Lucy.He’s presumably missing for who knows how long and you can’t say it was on his days off because he jumps into a moving truck to move out of the barracks

[@LivingGuy484]

I love that he brought back the "Oh!" "Oooh!" Catchphrase 😆

[@ughugh3767]

I seriously watch anything I don’t want to pay in theatres through this series

[@noahwhite659]

I’ll still watch these, even if I do watch the movie in theaters.

[@carolviclayne]

Me too 😂

[@sergiosaunier]

At this point, my movie-watching is pretty much all done here.

[@excellentosunkoya5948]

I saw it today. It’s a pretty good movie imo.

[@Bossfightmedia]

I havent watched any movie in years but Pitch Meetings are Just a must have for e xD

[@splitp173]

"Now every fart sounds like a secret"..........sigh.......I laughed so hard at that line.....paused the video, walked away, rewound it, watched it again, and completely lost it a second time.....I think it's the finger next to the chin move that sells it........Anyway, Ryan, you are an insane comedic genius.

[@AnamiaFan]

These just get better and better. The secret fart joke just killed me.

[@tranazzi]

Everyone: We’re so sick of these movies unnecessarily splitting into two parts. Ballad of songbirds and snakes: Soooo… what do we do here?

[@NXGGLOBALPRODUCTIONS]

😅😅😅😅

[@lelouchs]

i thought the movie was great obviously they couldn’t show all the love build up but i would prefer that then two movies

[@imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs]

I actually think they paced the movie really well so idk how much good splitting it would have been tbh. Last part maybe have felt rushed but it was similar in the book so i wouldn’t say it’s the movies fault

[@dutchmansmine9053]

Didn't they write the book specifically so they cook make a movie?

[@kool4209]

put a chick in it and make it lame and gay

[@ColinFox]

"kid-murder-man" = best villain name ever

[@igpx666420]

Dude, I swear to God, “he sentences him to 20 years of being Eminem” is one of the best jokes I’ve heard on KZbin in months! I laughed so loud I had to roll the video back 20 seconds

[@tiriana2]

I really enjoyed this movie. It was the first hunger games for me and I'm like 40 years old.

[@kayjacoby290]

"Now every fart sounds like a secret." 🤣 Needs to be a tee shirt, w/Producer guy's face & hand from 1:40

[@TamarMebonia]

"Injure those kids, handsome murder man!" - This is the kind of writing I'm here for :D

[@robintitanstudios6455]

"There's still about an hour left" "WHAT?!!!" Yeah...that right there. That was me in the cinema lmao I for sure thought the movie would end once Lucy Gray was the victor but then suddenly he's in district 12. Then he's suddenly shooting someone, getting a certain someone hanged, shooting Lucy Gray, poisoning Dinklage. Like WTF is going on 😂

[@vanyadolly]

I feel like they really wanted to punish us for complaining about movies being split into two

[@EagleCroc]

"Now every fart sounds like a secret!" Likewise, man. Actually, mine typically are 100% silent but VERY smelly.

[@thatGuywhocared]

Watching the film ✖️ Watching the pitch meeting ✔️

[@jameslazaridis4180]

Weak

[@museofthesea]

But the movie was good . . .

[@thatGuywhocared]

@@museofthesea Rachel zegler 🤢

[@raawesome3851]

​@@thatGuywhocaredher work in the movie was good, she's certainly not as bad as Bree Larson, and at least works well for the film.

[@SuperBC1975]

Great overview of the film. From now on I will refer to The Hunger Games as "The Child Murder Games." LOL

[@poeticdavide]

I mean, that's what they really are.

[@alyssafrantz9567]

It’s so validating having opinions about a movie, and then hearing Ryan repeat those opinions.

[@ripleyjlawman.3162]

I think the word is Echo Chamber.

[@projectmc15]

0:59 “actually its going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience” line

[@marshallnmoonshine]

Ryan watches the movies so we don’t have to. Dude is a saint.

[@annabetht4565]

Yep…5 minutes instead of 2 hours that I’ll never get back.

[@kneo12]

Ballad of songbirds is good IF you're a hunger games fan

[@philtess3126]

​@@kneo12please stop with that rethoric. Liking or not liking a single movie doesnt determine if you're fan of the franchise. You can hate a movie and like the rest of them and you're still a fan.

[@kneo12]

@@philtess3126 what the fuck are you talking about. People who read the original book will probably like the movie because they've had the context while people who haven't will leave confused.

[@jaxsetbertoncarlism8873]

​@@philtess3126they didn't say you're a fan only if you like the movie. They say you'll like it if you're a fan. Most fans enjoy to movie because it's a solid adaptation of an appreciated book

[@Thundernoob98]

Him checking his watch towards the end was me in the theater needing to use the bathroom 😂

[@shinigami1357]

"Now every fart sounds like a secret" you cannot tell me this wasnt a random punch line he wrote an entire joke around. you just cant

[@benjigoodrich]

Didn't think it was possible for these to keep getting better and better and yet here we are. Pure gold!

[@bramton1]

I'd love to see some old movie pitch meetings. Maybe a Film Noir, or Gone with the Wind. Go black and white on the pitch meeting.

[@tacenda3250]

He did that with Dumbo

[@CorePathway]

Do it in Black and White. Or better….a Silent Movie Pitch Meeting.🤣

[@kool4209]

the pitch meeting wouldnt be in black n white. do you think color was invented when the TV was made................................................................

[@tacenda3250]

@@kool4209 Obviously it was. If color existed before then, why would old videos and photos be in black and white?

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Citizen Kane is ripe for parody.

[@picturebreakdown]

“He sentences him to 20 years of being Eminem” I’m so dead 💀😂

[@CM-pf1xc]

3:07 the hanging tree has such important unifying themes!!! It’s origin story is so central. Also I Loved ALL the songs they’re so good

[@Holy_Jolteon]

During the movie, i never did understand any of Snow's motives. For instance, one second, he turns in his "friend," and the next, he looks shocked that he was killed.

[@corygreen4916]

The coral joke may be my new favorite throwaway line ever.

[@alexiospatestos]

Watching the pitch meeting a few hours after I saw the movie is tight

[@MrGUnit27]

Producer Guy's face at 3:52 caught me so off guard 🤣🤣

[@michaelryan6342]

I love how Screenwriter Guy picked up "Kid-Murder Man" and ran with it. 😂

[@dozyproductionss]

the quick "uh-oh" is so under rated.

[@thedarkemissary]

Hey, that reminded me of Hancock. When you got to the point where it felt like a whole second movie was starting.

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

OMG, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt like that! 😂 The first half was fun & fairly well-grounded if a little weird/irreverent, and then suddenly it turned into this sterile superhero blockbuster where the main characters threw each other all over the CBD with absolutely no apparent thought for how many people they were killing in the process, and frankly no apparent connection to the laws of physics either....

[@EvanSchwartz3]

This movie is really going to make things hard for kids named Childmurderman

[@scholarhobbitz8269]

Ok this might have actually benefitted from two movies. XD They could have used more of the slow burn romance and spiral that Snow went through. Fantastic as always!

[@tiberiushazo6326]

Personally, having just read the book and seen this movie this week, I think a five part miniseries with about forty minute episodes would have been best.

[@Temperius]

Possibly, they kinda missed a subplot in the Film that could have been included.@@tiberiushazo6326

[@thrbrandao]

“No one is ever happy” It hit me harder than it should’ve

[@jdzspace33]

I mean.... he's not wrong

[@trinaq]

A valid point, most of the drama and conflict in this franchise is based on people constantly suffering, which is why the games were created in universe.

[@colbywilson8790]

I’m telling you if they had split the movie in two people would’ve given just as much flak as it’s getting now. People can’t make up their minds lol.

[@jdzspace33]

@colbywilson8790 probably. The only reason people accepted it back then is because it was final book in the series, so we all thought they would be better adaptations..... but, you know.... they were just money grabs. So that idea has been burned up due to misuse

[@Ruddline]

Internet movie criticism is getting pretty ridiculous, no money in ever being happy so lets just blast every movie ever.

[@Nanerpus27]

Quick question Mr. George: are there any pitch meetings you wish you could redo because you feel like you didn't do a very good job/you've thought of a few really funny jokes you wish you'd included? Thanks again for the pitch meetings, they always manage to bring a smile to my face :)

[@ColinFox]

He's revisited old pitch meetings before, and discussed how he feels about them.

[@jessedupuy4124]

He does something like that. Go to this channels playlists, Pitch Meetings Revisited.

[@3souris]

Regrets, he has a few; but too few to mention...

[@whatdoesthisthingdo]

@@3sourisHe did what he had to do…

[@Conta_Minated]

Wow, you've really cranked up all the dials of the Producer Guy this time. I don't think I've seen him quite like this before. Sure, there have been some pretty weird moments in the past, but this time it just feels like he has gone one step further than before.

[@stonehenge5166]

From now on when I let out a silent fart I expected to be loud, I'm gonna follow up with "that one was a secret" and then go about my day.

[@GTMQ8]

“Now every fart sounds like a secret” … I laughed so hard I started coughing uncontrollably 😂😂😂

[@serenitynow85]

Farting, uncontrollably

[@TenFalconsMusic]

I farted while reading this. This one won't remain a secret for long. My roommates are only a few feet away. Lullabies & snakes...

[@Insert_Bland_Name_Here]

How on Earth does a movie that's chronologically set in the future look like it takes place in the 1970s? I do love that Coralanus Snow is just referred to as "Kid-Murder Man" throughout this entire Pitch Meeting, though 🤣

[@illogicmath]

Handsome kid-murder man to be more precise

[@MegaKnight2012]

Because there are certain decades of the 1900s that won't die. Some are trying to kill the 80s, but man, is it a struggle

[@jlev1028]

Because YA dystopias love retro fashion, apparently.

[@clogs4956]

It’s spelt Coriolanus and is a reference to a Shakespeare play of said name based on an old Roman legend, except this one survives the ending.

[@MFlack2]

Fitting title for a completed POS

[@Tinette_Izdashit]

Thank you, Ryan George. I didn't even know there was another Hunger Games movie. This pitch was even funnier because I haven't watched this one, and I don't have to suffer thru it like I painfully did with the older ones. Great job! ❤😂😂😂

[@jordansimai3372]

Hysterical like usual! Honestly found the final hour of the movie the most interesting and believable tbh...

[@kappakumplete]

Ohhh watching Pitch Meeting instead of spending time with my family on Thanksgiving is TIGHT.

[@michaelmurphy2112]

It's super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@Mereologist]

It's okay... my entire family died due to mysterious rat poison leaks and a swarm of snakes.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

...but wouldn't it be nice to share some farts that sound like secrets with them?

[@josemarti7487]

After watching 100 episodes of Pitch Meeting, I vagely beginning to suspect these two characters being one person😅😅😅

[@KayKayBayForever]

Another conspiracy theorist, eh? Sigh, they’re clearly different people. Just use your eyes! They’re wearing completely different clothes! And one’s a producer, and the other is a screenwriter! It would be too much for one person to have both jobs!

[@AegixDrakan]

That character will need you to get ALL the way off his back about it! XD

[@Mereologist]

Being two people at once is TIGHT!

[@neoroman0510]

Listen, they couldn't be the same person, ok? The screenwriter guy has glasses and the other one doesn't! 'nuff said!

[@michelkoerts1409]

How? One wears glasses, the other doesn't. They can't be the same person. They are even in the same room at the same time!

[@lhpoetry]

"You know nothing Coriolanus Snow."

[@AWhistlingWolf]

I'm a sucker for on-the-nose metaphors and comparisons so I love the dynamic of "she's the songbird, he's the snake". Well-meant, joyful and artistic VS silent, calm and deadly. No, I have not read the book NOR seen the film.

[@ScubaFanatic60]

I'm thankful for Ryan George Pitch Meetings. Thank you!

[@GWindMagic]

It's been twelve pitch meetings and six revisit pitch meetings since Bryan George made an appearance, please bring him back. #BryanGeorge

[@realitymatters4745]

His shows is always funnier when he does them himself

[@GWindMagic]

@@realitymatters4745 watch the end of interstellar pitch meeting. You'd understand lol

[@cathygrandstaff1957]

“How to make a child murderer sympathetic?” “Make him hot!” I mean they could also have made him a previous candidate in the Hunger Games, making it a parable about how those who suffer from injustice go on to perpetuate it as long as they can be the guy at the top. Also somehow they missed that the point was to watch kids shank each other, not to watch a bunch of snakes do the shanking. If I wanted a movie about snakes shanking people I’d ask for Snakes on a Plane 2: They Fly Now.

[@libertyjones1451]

Pitch Meeting has saved me years of my life avoiding bad movies. Godspeed Ryan George and crew.

[@aymericmercier7678]

I could be wrong but I think pitch meeting is a one man show, Ryan George do pretty much everything

[@sugareecereviews]

Think this one’s a solid movie tbh but I like watching pitch meetings for good and bad movies

[@Nekosphere]

yeah i watched it yesterday and while all critique is fair it is not a bad movie. you can call it "good with flaws" or "average" depending on how you enjoyed it but it is definetly not a bad movie

[@libertyjones1451]

@@Nekosphere life is short why waste it on movies that by your own admission is "average" at best? Save your movie time for good movies and use that finite time to learn a new skill or enjoy time with friends/family.

[@tmm4195]

@@libertyjones1451 It's better than average. If you're a hunger games fan it's worth a watch. The main problem is that people went into this movie already expecting the worst, but it really is a good movie

[@LordJapos]

Can I just take this moment to appreciate the fact that producer guy and writer guy used to be a bit purple, but are now perfectly color graded and have great lighting on them? Ryan is still improving.

[@RedCaio]

I've left a couple comments in the past saying "how is it that your eye color is purple?" and now I have an answer, thank you.

[@imleeanthony2803]

I LIKE PURPLE

[@kool4209]

tf you even talkin about

[@ncapone87]

Don't do drugs kids

[@kre4ture218]

Watching Pitch Meetings of movies you didn’t even know came out is tight!

[@af4043]

One of the funniest in a while, Ryan! Knocked it out of the park.

[@Arcadio89]

1:03 I don't know why but the "uuuuuh" always makes me laugh 😂

[@rebeccasteen]

Goodness, Ryan is so great I genuinely didn't notice the lack of jokes.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

"Barely an inconvenience."

[@jackcrassus168]

Like his farts, not making jokes is secret

[@Spider_Gwen112]

I’ve read the book and was curious if the movie fixed any of the pacing issues (it definitely should have been two books, too)…so of course I turn to Ryan instead of buying a ticket. 😂

[@AwesTex]

Just like the Hunger Games trilogy the ending was wildly unsatisfying. I also thought we’d get some understanding of what must have made Snow so callous and manipulative but no, he’s just kinda always been that way, apparently.

[@WhiteRabbitDreams]

​@@AwesTexSome people don't need a tragic backstory. Some people are just born monsters

[@lilsriegerson6364]

​@@AwesTex I thought it was the fact that the war forced him and his family almost starve and loose everything they had. He hated district people because they took everything from him

[@rokeYouuer]

I'd say the pacing was slightly worse than the book, although they cleaned up the narrative in a few places that made the overall story a bit more satisfying in my opinion.

[@parisolivarious]

“About six more times than what feels comfortable.” “……what?” 😂😂😂

[@river-yuki]

So thankful for this Pitch Meeting for giving me a good reason to avoid my family for 5 minutes 🙏❤️

[@maverick5408]

Laughed way too hard at the Coralanus joke lmao

[@zimriel]

hey yo they call me Coriolanus from Mercury to Uranus they all know me I'm famous

[@katiegustafson6765]

​@@zimriel, thank you for spelling it correctly!

[@codybailey855]

Damnit man! You made me damn near spit my drink in multiple occasions! I finally just had to set it down. This was a good one!

[@ReeseCraven]

The fart joke got me way more than it should have. 😂

[@PalmelaHanderson]

I had no idea there was even a 4th book until like a year ago. I didn't know they made a movie from it until I saw the notification for this video.

[@Abdo.R.Mohamed]

"He sentenced him for 20 years of being Eminem" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bluecollarmenproductions]

“There’s till an hour left” exactly but also I wouldn’t want two movies idk what I want

[@livelongandtroll9108]

Can't blame me for rooting for the handsome bad boy when I was there only for the eye candy.

[@ComedyPlastic]

If I ever watch this, it will be for the eye candy. I've never had this particular motivation to watch something and it's weird.

[@sentinelstorm487]

The emphatic body language of Director Guy in this episode is on point! 😎👉