The Hunt for Edwin Lara

[@ThatChapter]

If you'd like to learn more about this case I'd really recommend checking out the "Urge to Kill" podcast! www.kgw.com/urgetokill

[@jamieyaqoob8704]

That Chapter yes mike!!! 👍🏾

[@jamieyaqoob8704]

Imaging this guy hooking up with Pam hupp!! 😂😂. Bunch of lunatics

[@MrLaughatthis]

mike, what is the piece of music at the start of the video

[@ThatChapter]

@Joanna Martin That's where I heard of this case, it's really good and goes into so much more detail than I ever could!

[@ThatChapter]

@@MrLaughatthis kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnPCoKRjhtaBg6s&

[@danielparker8189]

Kidnapping, rape, murder, attempted murder, grand theft auto.... “Isn’t it illegal to talk on the phone while driving??” 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@DrGarri]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I thought the same!

[@prjndigo]

Good thing he didn't get into the LAPD territory...

[@primarchkhas726]

He was a changed man ya know

[@laurenleeonethree]

😂🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Yourlibrarian]

Professionals have standards.

[@Katyusha666]

"I don't wanna die." Funny how people like this cling to life when they show so little regard for the lives of others.

[@kensyskye8965]

Саша Б92 yeah they so easily take someone else’s life whilst holding onto their own with impunity! Sickening 🤢

[@tinal.5585]

@@kensyskye8965 Exactly. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[@hypocriticalsatire3966]

Narcissism is one of the main factors in a murderer's state of mind

[@jamieyaqoob8704]

Spot on bro

[@based_prophet]

What a hero

[@lavixia6039]

Her poor boyfriend probably blames himself.. their last conversation was a fight and that makes me so sad.

[@Slick_rider]

If she didn’t flirt with another guy they probably wouldn’t have fought drinking is never an accuse for that

[@Karben22]

@@Slick_rider Kind of a slimy outlook there man. Flirting with another person while dating someone exclusively isn't a death sentence. I'm sure if she could take the fight back she would. Essentially you are excusing the dirt bag security guard of his involvement.

[@Davidpostingshid]

karben you’re right, but still... she wouldn’t had got in the fight is she wasn’t being unfaithful.

[@amandarios448]

My and my SO have a rule. No matter how mad we are, we always say "I love you" and are polite when we leave/depart from each other. We had some close calls

[@caldw615]

Couples go through rough patches and can work things out if they talk. Plus you don't know all the details of the relationship. Maybe the boyfriend did something similar in the past, maybe he was just being possessive/reading the situation wrong, maybe she did have a habit of doing this, maybe she didn't. She still didn't deserve to die regardless.

[@17thknight]

That 911 dispatcher that spoke to Edwin while he was driving was 10/10 awesome. She did a great job of keeping that situation from going worse.

[@jenniferferguson4373]

Great job!! I am a first responder, I love our dispatchers!!

[@thevolatilitywhisperer7616]

Dispatch rarely gets the appreciation they should. I've heard some terrible ones too, but mostly they're really impressive

[@mouse9665]

Yes. I hate when the 911 operator is an idiot.

[@bobbymenon4057]

She's wonderful

[@frans_bauer]

Man said isnt it illegal to talk on the phone, after admitting killing someone and just running off..

[@JennRighter]

I am so amazed that Andrea thought to say that the alarm was for her STD medication. What a brilliant woman in such a horrific situation.

[@uncle1886]

Well...hey there Jenn...how *you* doin?

[@68rufus]

yes it is good she did that,but shes lucky too because psychopathic men would not care and go ahead anyway

[@Ana-jv7zl]

Jenn Righter I saw this one where the women lied about being pregnant and the guy didn’t rape her.

[@chickyface7537]

Might not always work though.....depends on a lot of variables

[@rikumajumder1558]

@@68rufus Psychotic doesn't mean stupid though. A STD while the police is searching for you will bring you down. Any person with any kind of intelligence will not take that risk mainly because STD can be of 2 types, curable and not.

[@KypForPresident]

The STD Medication Idea in that kind of situation. Kudos, thats some crisis management and creativity! Glad she is okay.

[@YunaElphabaLovegood]

I wonder if she had seen "The Court Jester" and that's where she got that idea. Glad he didn't hurt her. I hope she has a great life.

[@fistfulofgroovy9746]

That was fucking brilliant, Its rare to cheer when you watch one of these videos... I definitely did though!

[@chrisr2507]

Like a boss!

[@NormaLilia24]

Low key, that’s been my go to answer for years if I ever get abducted or something. So crazy that it worked and she didn’t get raped .. sadly was not enough to keep her alive in this case 😔

[@fistfulofgroovy9746]

@@NormaLilia24 I am replying to this video like a week and a half after watching. So if I am wrong forgive me. I thought I remembered that she survived unharmed. Gonna rewatch and see, but I think your wrong.

[@jonathanl9229]

I feel so terrible for her boyfriend...that the last conversation he had with her was a fight..

[@Rosyblvsh]

I know... i would blame everything on myself

[@sneakypeaky6000]

@@Rosyblvsh ahhh it wouldn't have happened if she didn't flirt and dance with another guy. They both would've been chilling inside if it had not happened.

[@hashvendetta7226]

@@sneakypeaky6000 hefty toll..

[@shaqtus50]

vzw 819 not victim blaming, just truth

[@BoydSmurf]

@ lol victim blaming?

[@meghan111510]

I so glad the grandfather was able to speak so candidly. There have been cases where the family was censored on what they could say in their victim statement. It should always be allowed for them to express their true grief in the rawest way possible.

[@robinmcinarnay7827]

That was audio of a family friend of the Sawyers. The grandfather was the more poised one, although he did get in a quick “rot in hell scumbag” there @the end. Lol I can't help drawing reference to the Home Alone gangster background scene listening to that dude's victim impact statement😂! I guess they couldn't put that one on the evening news!

[@Safiyahalishah]

That was a very good dispatcher. I love it when we hear smart dispatchers instead of just the clueless ones.

[@austinkatz1551]

Agreed. They should be alot more critical about who they hire to be dispatchers and have alot more training. You can tell alot of dispatchers become annoyed at the countless calls and somewhat become jaded.

[@timfondiggle2582]

yean you wonder how some of them keep their jobs after hearing some of the calls, some of the female dispatchers can be down right cunts

[@Migo-pk5po]

Number 15......

[@chrislewis5069]

No kidding, surprising how some of these dispatchers don't use their heads

[@AIWFNW]

Yup...Whenever someone is bad at their job I blame their training, their boss..so, good training in that dept

[@Hana.Behl-Lecter]

Can we take a minute to appreciate Isabelle for turning her husband in? Of course it was absolutely the right thing to do but unfortunately we hear all too often of family covering series crimes for each other.

[@savvyb54]

@Metro Vip ya plus she was an actual police officer doing that.

[@savvyb54]

@Metro Vip I'm not defending bad cops but most people are arrested everyday without issue. It's not even most cops. It's the fact that the laws allow for the bad ones who do exist to do so much damage. N it's not like ur best option isn't to call the police when ur in danger.

[@savvyb54]

@Metro Vip I'd also like to point out that she didnt commit a crime she was just being shady. And the actual criminal was eventually apprehended by the police.

[@prjndigo]

He took her gun. If she didn't report that and everything related to it she'd be screwed for life.

[@network735]

you cannot spell serious, series ? Seriously lol

[@islammostafa9344]

The 911 lady Edwin talked to was very professional. She actually convinced him to stop and was very calm 🙂

[@haileelogan2031]

I know! So rare to hear dispatchers like this. She was great.

[@orcusdei]

I loved the part "I heard I shouldn't pull over here not to put anyone in danger..." "Look, Edwin, these are little different circumstances, ok?" :DDDD

[@Andrea-3232]

@@orcusdei right? "what about the innocent people?" *is a murderer*

[@haileelogan2031]

@Chris Kibodeaux ok thanks! I’m sure you’re a great dispatcher, don’t let these people bully you out here bro. Keep your head up

[@bipolarsunshine5357]

We

[@_krimzen_]

33:34 Hell yeah! That guy laid it all out there, man. Wow. Very glad the judge let him keep going and say *exactly* how he felt!

[@demonzanddollz1605]

I felt so much power in that man's voice. I was clapping my hands and saying "hell yeah!" The killer deserves every ounce of what the lovely man described.

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

Right?!?! That statement was AMAZING!

[@chantell209]

That raw emotion is what needs to be expressed in court always by the victims and their family. I was like hell yeah !

[@bordeauxisburning]

"I don't want to die." Yeah, I'm sure Kaylee didn't want to die either. 😡

[@mariadee2208]

Exactly! Disgusting!

[@thepoormanspoet3312]

The most epic Victim Impact Statement I've ever heard...especially the "Pow!!" Right at the end 👏👏

[@MommaBear_316]

Damn right!!!!

[@mikeup7517]

Absolutely! I'm glad he told him exactly what he was thinking and skipped the political correctness shite!

[@MC-bo6ql]

C A H YOTES

[@marlborosweedoldenglish32]

Should of got a lawyer.

[@sunnylilme]

That was pretty badass

[@tapoemt3995]

"I'm not that kinda guy" Translation: I didn't want an STD.

[@reggaefan2700]

He's laughing 8:07

[@neptune_wolf-1514]

😂

[@TerrenceBosworth]

hear the exact same words often from evilness.

[@microwah]

EXACTLY!! haha Fucking Plank!lol

[@Lavieenrose99999]

😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bobcorrigan5540]

That poor wife! Even though she did the right thing, that had to have been tearing her up inside. Her husband murdered someone and she had to do her duty.What a woman of character. She didn't wait to report him. My hat's off to her

[@Chrisisplays]

While I agree, that's also the only way she could have saved herself.

[@lj0727]

Yeah also doesn't help all the shit she said in Spanish on the phone

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

​@@lj0727 Maybe because that was their first language?

[@molleirose]

​@@lj0727 what did she say? I can't find a translation

[@martharunstheworld]

But, wouldn't she have known beforehand that something wasn't right with her husband? She was in training to be a police officer, ffs. I'd say she wouldn't be a very good one if she didn't have the instincts to know her own husband is a murderer.

[@xensonar9652]

"So I ran this girl over and thought I'd killed her, but she started screaming, so I killed her." Cool excuse, bro. Big brain 1000IQ.

[@Theproclaimed]

“Should I throw the gun out of the window?” (as in towards traffic)

[@janaskibo871]

Props to Isabel for turning in her husband. That had to be so hard.

[@xeeng1]

Ikr said to the detective “I didn’t even hit her that hard.” Like it’s gonna help his case.

[@mrhead6856]

Him smart an such

[@lauriewagar977]

Ke killed her 3000! 😂

[@binsk]

That dispatcher is incredible. Her responses to his insane questions were on point.

[@tylerskiss]

Just imagine being taken hostage, fearing for your life for days, praying for police to intervene, and when they finally do- they arrest you!! Did no one report Andrea’s abduction!?

[@hayleyjay4378]

RIGHT? I was just thinking this!

[@kerstinxoxo8983]

Late I know. But yes they did. Even after they were told again who she was and confirmed her identity at the police station they still agressively questioned her and messed up potential forensics with how they man handled her.

[@emorytodalen6627]

@@kerstinxoxo8983 That bothers me so much. The poor girl.

[@roningarcia5771]

It's unfortunate but they don't know 100% if she was aiding him or not. You also have indoctrination. When a hostage gets brainwashed into helping a suspect.

[@jenniferhamels1176]

Nobody knew she was abducted. She wasn't missing that long. She was abducted in the evening of July 25, they tried spending the night at a motel, he shot a guy in the morning of July 26, he turned himself in a few hours later. From the time of her abduction to Edwin turning himself in was about 10hrs.

[@rozgardner6541]

It would be so embarrassing as a rookie cop to sit down in front of detectives in your town to admit this ,but she did and so would I

[@SavannahRose]

" that's to remember to take my STD medication" just gonna put that in my pocket for later..

[@SavannahRose]

Ryan Bailey watch the video you dolt

[@SavannahRose]

Amanda R legit setting one now lol

[@Paintress]

I remember reading there was a woman who went overseas by herself, met a guy who invited her back to his place and when she got there, there were a room full of men who were only there for one thing. She started to panic but played it cool and said she left her HIV/Aids medication at home and needs to take it daily. They all looked uncomfortable and the guy that brought her there said she could go home, didn’t offer to drive her, just basically told her to get out cause they were no longer interested in her. She obv didn’t have aids but I’ve always got that in my mind if I ever were in a situation such as that .

[@iSynthetic-]

Savannah Rose dolt lmaoo

[@6luealreadydead]

Or say ur taking HIV meds🤷‍♂️ or herpes🤷‍♂️ i think most of them would originally work tho lol

[@petitechaos883]

Andrea’s quick thinking to say she had an STD was so smart and clever. Poor girl arrested and traumatized in 48 hours. I feel so bad for everyone involved other than Edwin, of course.

[@Miles-mf9kg]

edwin is a good person with happy feelings

[@waqasahmed939]

@@Miles-mf9kg No

[@waqasahmed939]

Yeah. Seems very harsh that she was arrested especially as she was a hostage

[@WezzleG]

Do people still say STD in America? I'm surprised Mike did as in Britain it's been STI for all my life (Perhaps not in Ireland). Saying infection instead of disease - disease has more negative connotations and sort of permanency to it I guess.

[@srb2591]

@@WezzleG yes we still say STD

[@annic.9605]

I’d be so pissed being Andrea and getting arrested after being held hostage for two days.

[@SalahEddineH]

Yeah of course you would, but it's still understandable. The cops responding to that would've been told "A man shot the victim, and then ran away with a woman, and they both carjacked a car on the other side of the road", having no idea that the guy was wanted for anything else, and of course they can't immediately take her at her word, I'm sure many girlfriends of small-time criminals claim to be hostages when they get caught. But yeah, from her perspective, I'm sure it didn't help at all, after being handcuffed to a bed with that guy and almost getting raped. Cheers!

[@suprcrzy]

@@SalahEddineH - Ummm no. Do you know what its like to get arrested? Even just overnight for a dwi (which is what happened to me, and that was 100% my fault). Its fing awful. You're in a crowded dirty ass holding area with a bunch of ppl. You're treated like an animal. You have to wait to see a judge. While you wait you have to sleep on the floor, and if you have to use the restroom, theres no privacy. Then you have to make bail/bond. Pay for it out of your own pocket, sign a bunch of documents (from the jail and the bail bonds place), then you can go home. This doesn't even include the shame and embarrassment you have the entire time (and im sure she has a mugshot now even tho she's innocent). And oh yea btw, we screwed up, you're innocent, dont worry about it.. If I was her, I would try and sue. Just doing their job my ass. If they were actually doing their job, they would have known she was an innocent victim, not arrested for 2 days.

[@SalahEddineH]

@@suprcrzy I understand why you'd be outraged. I really do. And I hope she's doing better now. But it's still not the arresting officers fault. I'm not saying it should've happened like this. If the US police system was as it should be, police departments would communicate between each other and a kidnap victim in one area wouldn't be arrested for murder in another area. But the highway patrol DON'T communicate that much with local police, I'm guessing, and so they don't know the face and name of every kidnap victim. What they did know, at the time, was that she was standing beside the guy who shot someone at a gas station, and that she got in the car with him when he carjacked another family. What's the safer alternative, when you only have that information? Taking your suspect at her word, or telling her "Okay, we will figure this out, for know get in the car", and take her in for processing. THIS is why police SHOULD be polite with suspects and treat them well, because sometimes the suspect turns out to be a traumatized victim and you don't want to be the cop who treated her like shit. Unfortunately they rarely behave as professionally as they should, and citizens like you become traumatized by being in police custody. Also, if she was held overnight, yeah she would definitely have grounds to sue. That's gross negligence because she should've been put immediately in an interview room, where she can give her story and it can be confirmed in a few minutes. But everything I read said she was handcuffed, searched, fingerprinted, and processed, but not held overnight. About the fingerprinting, searching, and cuffs, do you really want to be the lowly cop who has to explain in your report "Suspect Number 2 claimed to be a victim of kidnapping and seemed distressed, so we didn't restrain her and didn't search her. Consequently she stabbed suspect N°1 / ran into oncoming traffic / turned out to be the killer's girlfriend / etc" I hope you see my point of view here. I'm not saying it doesn't sucks big time. And I'm not saying it's not proof the police system needs a lot of giant changes. I'm just saying the individual cop involved in the arrest weren't wizards, they were highway patrol cops suddenly called into a murder at a gas station. Cheers!

[@Nikki_81]

@@suprcrzy I'm just going to point this out, you CHOSE to make a poor life choice and get yourself arrested! Sitting here whining about your holding cell, privacy, the "inconvenience" of waiting for the judge and bondsman, and then lastly signing paperwork is not going to get you any sympathy! Hitting and/or killing someone is far worse then a night or weekend in the local jail! Maybe the next time you CHOOSE to go out and get shit faced, after your "horrible experience in the local jail", you will make sure it is safely! Using a DD or taxi! You are f*cking lucky you were stopped and did not hurt anyone! So please stop sitting behind your computer crying about your experience! What one person experiences is vastly different from anothers!

[@suprcrzy]

@@Nikki_81 - Where did I say I didn't make a bad decision, and that it wasnt my fault? The point was that this innocent woman had to go through all these things, after being kidnapped, and nearly raped. You should learn how to read. Hooked on phonics could work for you. Maybe

[@CourtneyTunbridge79]

Wow, just absolutely wow, that victim impact statement made by the family friend blew me away. I live in Australia and in 2019 I finally got justice for a heinous crime committed against me 32yrs earlier when I was just 7yrs old, I was allowed to give a victim impact statement HOWEVER, there were rules, several rules in fact. Firstly it had to be pre written and submitted to the courts 48hrs prior to me reading it in court, a copy was also given to the defendant and his solicitors at that time too, so effectively he knew everything I was going to be saying any way. Secondly I was not allowed to "suggest" what I thought his punishment should be, I was not allowed to ask the judge to impose anything of any sort. Thirdly I wasn't allowed to become angry or show any form of aggression whilst giving my impact statement. So listening to this man's impact statement left me with a huge smile on my face, because that is how it should be, victims and their loved ones should be free to say exactly how they feel, instead here in Australia victims are again told to be silent and do as we are told throughout the whole process, it's so wrong. It's like being a victim of the original crime all over again. The defendant's have more rights than the victims how fucked up is that shit.

[@bubblegumbruxa8183]

yea and here in canada you cant even defend yourself if someone breaks into your home and they hurt themselves its your fault lmao

[@laleona776]

Courtney- you're so right- the criminals have more rights than the VICTIMS! You couldn't even WISH harm on him(for fear of what? Hurting their feelings?). All I can say- is that I'm waiting for the day that many of the politicians & judges are affected & impacted with this violence from these criminals on them & their families. Until that day- nothing will change. (And of course they're afforded special protection with our tax money!)

[@alyssaheller7860]

Actually, the american system is the only system in the world that was literally created and designed to protect the accused. And for good reason. I wont get into the reasons now, but just think about why that may be. Think of history. But you are right about the victim impact statements. Victims should be able, when they get the chance to speak directly to the person that hurt them or someone they loved, should be able to do so freely. Completely freely. Without rules. Without propriety. Just honesty and rawness. Defendants SHOULD have the right to face accusers, and after conviction, a victim should get to speak directly to the person that hurt them, knowing they are completely safe and can say whatever they want and whatever they feel. It is objectively fair. Legally fair. And morally right. It is also important psychologically and can help with healing, if the victim wants to do it. (Also loved ones of a victim.)

[@Luckyluke1906]

Why would your statement be given to the damn defendant!? It's not much of an "impact" statement if he read it beforehand. But what's the point of this, can he object to it or something? Obnoxious.

[@kaywilliams5673]

That is crappy. The message is definitely that it's your job not to upset anyone. Grrrrrrr

[@jessn.2665]

If I were Andrea, I’d be pissed TF off that I was arrested. Imagine going through the worst 48 hours of your life, topping it off with going to jail instead of seeing your family.

[@gtownrivera]

I wouldn’t mind because at least I’d be alive, safe and in custody and let go after they proved I was innocent

[@drphot6050]

@Jiminy Cricket Stop deflecting!

[@jd517]

I was thinking the same. Now her mug shot is on the internet. I wonder did the family (grandma + grandkids) call the police and tell them she was kidnapped too. Or even the guy who got shot in the stomach. They could've been her saving grace.

[@GiDD504]

Any normal person would treat her like an accomplice. We have the luxury of hindsight, the police did not.

[@NintendoFan8877]

I’m sure they’d understand that the police have to check everything

[@annarosado6815]

Can we all just appreciate that officer interrogating him? That's a passion that I have NEVER seen before. He called Edwin's shit out fully, and still treated him like a human being. However, I do hope Edwin gets everything he deserves for the irreversible pain he's caused.

[@guardiansanimalrescuestate7289]

Prison justice has a way of that.

[@kaisla6569]

except I didn't like the "what you mistook for a hooker was an angel" like why are sex workers so dehumanised and treated and talked about so badly when almost everyone on this planet consumes their services in one way or another

[@Laurenishful]

Yes I was really moved by what the cop said to him. What a gorgeous human being ❤️

[@justanothernguyen2334]

@@kaisla6569 hookers can be noble bro. Its just that most of them don't make the best life choices either they are dealt the bad hands in life or are just plain shitty people. The dogma exists for a reason.

[@deadeye9234]

i like when he said. "and thats the truth", i thought he was gonna say "brother" at the end but im sure he didnt want to call him that

[@kylejimenez367]

"-if i had done dirty things to her, no. i'm not that kind of guy." this coming from a guy who had sex with a woman he thought was dead. great

[@williss1192]

He obviously had problems in the brain, I've seen people who just act without thinking

[@cammccormack625]

I was thinking the same thing. Definitely that kinda guy. STD trick worked

[@mu0FFpu0FF]

After he Bashed her skull in with a Rock.. People like him walk among us.

[@liannefright5891]

Cam McCormack y

[@zackmoore3456]

@@williss1192 lots for that fact

[@Elevatedbongwater]

Omg imagine the last interaction you had with your girlfriend before she died was an argument, thats so hard. I always make it a point to resolve any argument or disagreement with my boyfriend before we go to bed because life is too short

[@ahousefellonme]

Another case I’d never heard of! You are absolutely the very best at what you do. There are a lot of people on KZbin who cover stories like these, and you put them to utter shame. I’m always thrilled when you include interrogation videos and 911 calls and news footage, because it adds so much to the stories. Your research is thorough and your insight on these cases is spot on. You’re also damned likable, so there’s that, too. Thank you again for being such a bright spot in my week!

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you so, so much Sarah!

[@deadprivacy]

yeah murderers and kidnappers always relayed with inappropriate humour,

[@DianaPrince777]

Sarah, couldn't have said it better myself!

[@devodavis6747]

@@ThatChapter I've said this before and I reiterate: the only thing wrong with your channel is that there isn't a staff of 30 people helping create content so I and the rest of your followers could have a video every day. Then again, you'd run dry of stories to cover pretty quickly! I went through my subscriptions today and weeded out about *"tree"* dozen of 'em, but I wouldn't drop you, Mike. 🌳 🌳 🌳 😉👌

[@CLBCrew96]

I agree. I always get excited when he post new videos and when he include interegations.

[@knory123]

I've heard of a girl claiming she had HIV once to stop a guy from trying to assault her. He sure left her alone after that XD

[@laurenak1400]

Smart idea

[@matthewnakhle2541]

Until he laughs and says “ don’t worry me to”

[@bums009]

Ima have to try and remember that if I ever get in a pickle...

[@lara_young]

@@matthewnakhle2541 That would be my worry too lol

[@gomahklawm4446]

@@matthewnakhle2541 Ultimate reverse Uno :-(

[@katiebellekarstens8977]

"Maybe I should give the gun to Andrea, so she can kill me". "NO no no, you don't want to do that to her...………………………...longest pause ever...…...……….and yourself". hahahaha! Well played dispatcher, well played.

[@tinavarble574]

People like these low life's are cowards and I think that life without parole is a better punishment

[@lorielhassani]

😆

[@parkerzielinski6724]

She handled it really well

[@ofcrgry]

@@tinavarble574 Yeah we need him alive because guilty heinous fucks like these are the best (and only) choice for sating the anal fetishists in jails lol

[@taylorgallion2748]

haha ya that dispatcher was a gem!

[@av0278]

The victim impact statement given by the family friend was bad ass.

[@desertparanormal2791]

Right!? I agree with him, but I wouldn't feed his evil to innocent animals lol

[@colettucex]

i listened to a podcast about kaylee back in the fall. dude, i feel sooooo bad for the boyfriend. imagine having a fight like that and never being able to reconcile and say, “i love you” one last time. ugh 😥

[@serenacelestine]

Colette P Not just that, but also knowing that if they hadn’t argued or if he had at least stayed with her then she wouldn’t have crossed paths with her murderer. (Not blaming him at all though, he had no way of knowing and all couples argue)

[@skeptischism1324]

Ryan D not to be insensitive, but I agree with you. Women get crazy shit in their heads when they are mad, I.E. storming out late at night cuz she’s mad that her BF had the audacity to be upset with her for drunkenly flirting and dancing with some rando dude.

[@williamf9992]

Be careful out there girls ,so many ' nice guys' out there just wanna hurt you.

[@serenacelestine]

j mula I’m not saying it was his fault because it wasn’t, I just know that if I were him that would be the thought running through my head. It was neither of their faults that this poor girl was murdered.

[@tiffanyjones8163]

When I was 22 my boyfriend was murdered and we had a huge fight when I left our house with our 13 month old daughter. It's been almost sixteen years and I still feel that guilt. I choose my battles now and let a lot go that I wouldn't have before he was killed. This video brought back a lot of memories and feelings

[@thepoormanspoet3312]

Whoa, his wife was a cop?!? JCS just covered this story but I don't think he didn't mention he was married to a cop. The Hell was this guy thinking??? Bizarre case, man...another great video Mike.

[@crieverytim]

same. wondered if I'd missed it! definitely an important detail

[@thepoormanspoet3312]

@@sallyviolet13 Agreed...like kidnapping an entire family, another count of attempted murder, arresting the hostage... Usually Jim's on point

[@crieverytim]

yeah but JCS made NO mention of "im going to shit in his face and piss on his carcass" not cool. 😂

[@tonypeppermint5329]

At least we had the luck of the wife turning him in.

[@AmazighAmazon]

I can't find the jcs one

[@sethwikle7840]

im so glad he didn't hurt Andrea.

[@davesmith1199]

Absolutely and the STD remark under all that stress was amazing.I am glad too,Seth..............Peace

[@Cherrykins]

@@davesmith1199 the STD thing was SO smart!!!

[@brighterdayjenn8579]

The more I've listened to him and know the truth, I think he didn't hurt her to use that as a kind of...see see i wouldn't hurt a women...It was all an accident.

[@sidneygreenglass106]

Indeed. a smart girl who knew how to keep herself alive.

[@lostsoul3353]

I can't believe they charged that poor hostage. Can you imagine being put through what she was put through and then the dumb ass police arrest you. I would fucking sue.

[@allie9552]

“I don’t wanna die” … neither did the innocent girl you murdered ? Neither did Andrea when you were going a buck 20 down the highway and involved in a high speed chase… RIP to the young lady that’s no longer with us, and I’m glad Andrea is safe and hope she heals from the trauma that this causes.

[@ChocoTheTiger]

18:50 "I don't wanna die", what a coward and a hypocrite, didn't give Kaylee that mercy but expects it from others.

[@billybobbobson3797]

@Nick Hord it also means expecting things that you yourself will not do. Judgment isn’t necessary. Nice try being smart tho

[@RA28xx91]

@Nick Hord really?what if it was someone dear to ya?if you kill someone with intention than ya deserve nothin but Death!that’s just me...

[@BobMarley-qh7qz]

He did get merci though, no death penalty. The rat.

[@cvbabc]

That part where Lara faced the audience and prayed out loud with his head back and eyes closed struck me as insincere and exposed his true personality.

[@DMWBN3]

Great speech from the family friend who wants to take a dump on the dead 💀 fucks face

[@Acidnoralkaline2]

I think they should hand him over to the family friend

[@sharkiesupernova]

I need one just like him

[@wesley939]

Faaacts!

[@wesley939]

S/o to family friends!

[@deborahdobbie]

pretending to be Somebody else omg exactly. 💯💯💯

[@kinglicks5646]

@@sharkiesupernova You will probably find you already do, its just not something that gets said.

[@327Federal]

Honestly this interrogator detective is a genius. Absolutely brilliant.

[@RustySpoons6490]

*I hope no one has ever described me as any of the following:* - a bright light - one who lights up a room the second I walk into it - the life of the party - one with a big, happy personality - couldn’t find a nicer person - larger than life - never met a stranger - has the biggest heart Those traits seem to be problematic for many...

[@badmanners7652]

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure I get what u sayin.

[@blauishblur]

Haha, I agree! Watch enough of these crime shows and you'll get it/hear those traits constantly. I don't mean disrespect for the victims, I believe they're happy-go-lucky outgoing people that someone takes advantage of... I'm socially awkward, suspicious of strangers, and statistically safer for it.

[@dinochickarelli6327]

Yes, agreed. "They would light up a room when they walked in." Is always what you hear. Great salad fingers logo to btw.

[@platty9237]

Or “he was the quiet one to kept to himself”

[@denises4494]

Just spit my iced coffee out so I wouldn’t completely choke 😂 😆 sad yes sorry for this response however it’s comical in a non disrespectful way. It’s always “the ones” that unfortunately meet this fate. Safely for me, I lean more toward-highly volatile, unpredictable, extremely bitchy, depressed and regrets not being a netter friend yet A LOVER AND SAVIOR OF ANY ANY ALL ANIMALS. Safe to say they would pass on me.

[@Vamasta7163]

Lol “reminder take STD meds” OKAY THEN. I would never have thought of that...

[@Telcomvic]

Quick thinking on her part, alright!

[@mikeup7517]

Bloody brilliant of her

[@TruthNeverFade]

Gotta remind myself to say something along those lines in case I'll ever get r*ped 👀

[@mamouilletten1562]

20 years ago i once avoided a rape by saying i had AIDS, the guy was trying to put on a condom on while said it, he couldn't be "erected" even tho said"he didn't care" so he left me after kicking me in the head cause "i dared failing to give him pleasure"

[@Telcomvic]

@@mamouilletten1562 How awful.

[@utahutefan28]

“Sorry bout that girl” this man is a complete psychopath

[@knexfan100]

@Sarah Wilson Ahh, yes.... kidnapping several people, murder, high speed chase, rape, etc..... a total gentleman indeed /sarcasm

[@sweetathegreat]

I got so mad when I heard that After taking her life so brutally he dismisses it like it is no big deal like he spilt someone's drink or something

[@sonofamachinegun8568]

He was sorry that he got caught, not for the crimes he committed.

[@reggaefan2700]

He's laughing 8:07

[@FoxyCAMTV]

And a total coward.

[@Rubydoomsday]

That dispatch operator was incredible talking down someone that unstable and getting him to pull over safely. Absolutely disgusting that the hostage was arrested, that should have been cleared up really quickly. Poor thing.

[@Lucas-yr9ou]

I swear, Mike only picks cases that have the letter TREE in it :D

[@MBS22]

Tree and terd!

[@DianeHasHopeInChrist]

That's not a letter, dumbass....that's a word. The uneducated....ugh!

[@Lucas-yr9ou]

@@DianeHasHopeInChrist are u ok

[@maithiliradhakrishnan15]

What a delightful accent it is!

[@steezy9929]

Diane Morgan chill Karen

[@CrossandWire]

You and Jim Can't Swim are absolutely the best thorough and professional crime channels I have ever watched!!

[@Kimrbr549]

Kat dolphinwhat haven’t seen Jim can’t swim....I’ll have to check it out!

[@sarq6693]

@@Kimrbr549 you're in for a treat, he's brilliant!

[@fernandapartridge5174]

Kim R highly recommend JCS.... If you like this channel, you will like that too.. both are awesome. 😁❤️

[@jyothsnak3679]

Yes JCS is awesome!

[@Endymion766]

Good on the wife for figuring out what happened nearly instantly and turning him in immediately.

[@TheArtis4n]

Latinos have strong premonition and intuition powers

[@flowerpower8722]

@@TheArtis4n More likely he's given himself away long before and she was probably already aware of how his mind works(?). He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[@TheArtis4n]

@@flowerpower8722 perhaps

[@TheArtis4n]

@@flowerpower8722 mark my words though, kind person Never underestimate a Latino Woman.

[@surethings6350]

He admitted it and well uh she's an officer so she definitely has a responsibility to report it.

[@ronque23]

So amazed at Andrea’s ability to maintain composure during that horrible experience. So sorry for that poor woman and her family. Loved the family friend’s speech.

[@heyysimone]

"Technically its illegal to talk on the phone and drive, right?" Yeah, thats the least of your crimes dude.

[@thisguy8106]

The way you make it easy to digest this horrific content is a true talent, Mike. You need your own huge show because these stories need to be told but they're hard to sit through most of the time.. thanks for your hard work!

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you so much!

[@HanHanMC]

Gaming With A White Guy it really is quite the talent

[@southernladyish]

Gaming With A White Guy mike really does need his own show. I’d much rather listen to him than most of these channels that cover crimes. There’s a couple I really like but Mike is one of a kind for sure! I love and appreciate how much hard work he puts into his videos. They’re addicting to say the least.

[@thisguy8106]

@@southernladyish I agree.. A lot of shows tend to make it harder to sit throw and watch reenactments. Mike's just like... "this shit's crazy!" The humor he brings to his presentations is always a perfect balance because it's never disrespectful. And it helps keep these really heavy stories from feeling as heavy as they are. So thanks, Mike!!!

[@m-o-l]

Wow, what a piece of shit .. Life Without Parole ... Lara deserves every day of it .

[@susie2366]

If I don’t stop watching these videos I’m going to be afraid to go outside again.

[@wheezeardjack]

Agoraphobia hours

[@archaichermit3566]

@@wheezeardjack that’s a real mood

[@arielleharbarger9890]

I'm already there lmao I'm getting a permit to carry and when my daughters old enough I hope she wants the same.

[@allisonovo]

I been scared to go outside, there’s people out there and shit lol

[@tony3x]

No seriously, I’m so scared for my wife & daughter... they can’t go nowhere without me lol

[@indianajo883]

Wow that friend of the family's testimony was absolutely priceless. I've always wanted to know if people give those sorts of speeches. I love it.

[@tommyegirl]

Everyone needs a family friend like that guy at the end.

[@JoJo-lg8hr]

Yep. He's an absolute legend for that amazing speech. So glad the court didn't shut him down. I've seen people get warnings because they used fowl or inappropriate language. They let him rant and I'm glad they did!

[@reginagilby1101]

Loved it

[@_krimzen_]

Greatest ever! No censorship.

[@michaelsmith8385]

Shit on his face and piss on his carcass. EPIC QUOTE!!!!

[@the_eerie_faerie_tales]

I love that Mike records his videos in some random, secluded cave somewhere.

[@ThatChapter]

How did you know :(

[@whitegirl.5113]

A cavern orrrr a fn cinder block bunker🤣

[@thejudgmentalcat]

That's where he hides the numerous... bottles of beer!

[@GrubbJunker]

@@ThatChapter Because that's where you keep us.

[@tristankline6676]

M Cave

[@marywkinnear2000]

His poor wife,she did the right thing though

[@Tracymmo]

@j mula What a shitty thing to say. We have no evidence that she was anything but shocked and upset to find out her husband did something terrible. She was a rookie cop, so someone who pledged to catch scumbags. How horrifying to find out your own husband is one of them.

[@matthewscully1763]

"Poor innocent wife" she married him.... look at him...

[@hjong8830]

She called him babe during jail call.

[@marywkinnear2000]

@@hjong8830 um she probably called him that for the whole marriage, so it's habit. I don't think she knew who she married ( but loved him or who she though he was anyway) and wasn't approving of his actions..

[@gina1emo]

j mula Wtf stop talkin shit! She had nout to do with it!!!

[@Paleymonster]

Mike, THAT CHAPTER is my KZbin addiction. Thanks for the detailed research and hard work!

[@KEEPit-ve6ts]

"Technically, its illegal to drive and talk on the phone right?" Forget about bashing someones head in with a boulder...that talking and driving will get you serious charges..

[@kalicat6232]

That was the best part - well, besides that extended family member who wants to take him out to the desert and piss on his carcass 🤣

[@KEEPit-ve6ts]

Lol true. Sad story though.

[@sayhellotomylittlefriend5191]

😂😂😂😂👌👌

[@lukapopovic6668]

😂😂I've just wanted to say this

[@msmithmitchell1604]

KEEP it100 And kidnapping a young lady and shooting and guy in the stomach.

[@holisticabundance7728]

Just kills me how much he acts like he is the victim... crying out to god for forgiveness and just worried about his own wellbeing after having no concern for the lives he destroyed.

[@Be_Bop]

Some people in this world are just pure evil unfortunately,. I've lost alot of hope in society lol. He is a selfish piece of shit.

[@chris7brook]

Put em' to the "Rack' I say!

[@SirCanuckelhead]

When he complains about his rights to an attorney.... she has a right to say no and to live

[@Liitebulb]

They're always like this... pathetic...

[@Charmaine886]

Never heard of this case such a bizarre story The arresting Andrea is just ridiculous The 911 operator was amazing and so was the detective doing the interview

[@Fordmister]

I mean tbf when they stopped him it's likely impossible to know he's telling the truth about her being kidnapped and he might be covering for an accomplice. It seems fairly reasonable to arrest her initially until they can verify that she is a victim as if it was a cover story any potential evidence would be lost. The arrest was almost certainly more precautionary than anything else

[@ntandosekay]

❤❤❤❤❤The very competent 911 operator 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@princesstamika]

@@Fordmister guilty until proven innocent.

[@Fordmister]

@@princesstamika The police dont opereate under the principle of "Innocent until proven guilty" Thats for the courts. If the police played by those rules we'd never arrest anyone. The whole point of an arrest is that it allows you to gather evidence via interviews searches of home and cars ect (its much easier to both get a warrant and perform a search is your suspect is already in custody. That evidence can be used to either exonerate or charge a suspect.

[@mistertwister7858]

You wont hear about cases that dont fit the "narrative"

[@tamsin1969]

Ive never heard a detective during an interview, so succinctly explain the trauma the perp caused to the victim and their family, or talk about what a wonderful person the victim was. It was heartbreaking to listen to, but the truth in every case like this. Such a waste of a decent young life, for a moments sick perverted satisfaction.

[@kellybraun7048]

The detective was phenomenal. The perp was clearly dealing with guilt and denial, and the detective made sure he knew-and admitted to- the full extent of his crimes and the damage he had done.

[@nelliem3935]

Something thst bothered me though, is the inference that a Hooker would be less loved by someone. "That woman you mistook for a hooker, she was an angel. A loved daughter"

[@tamsin1969]

@nelliem3935 really? I hadn't heard that in this video, however I've definitely heard that mentality in other cases and I agree with you 100%. Women have always been judged for doing a job that men frequent without having to deal with the same shame or stigma. It's appalling. Sex workers are assumed to be loose women with low morals and suffering addiction or mental health issues, and while this can be the case, it very often isn't true at all. Everyone is deserving of safety and respect and care regardless of their choices. Especially when those choices hurt no-one else.

[@nelliem3935]

@tamsin1969 he actually says that to him in the interrogation. Like the implications that the girl he thought was a hooker was ACTUALLY a loved child, an angel. There is no difference in their values. It was an awful insinuation by both men. Unintentionally, of course, by the detective to reinforce the crime.but still, the language is problematic. I totally agree with the rest of your comment also.

[@tamsin1969]

@nelliem3935 yes hun, I couldn't agree more. Well said, and thank you for pointing that out.

[@dtuohy1026]

could you imagine being kidnapped almost raped, taken for days just to be put in handicuffs and arrested on suspicion. I would be irate af

[@grimblegromblethegnome]

I'm irate just watching this. Unbelievable.

[@damienleigh9943]

"Handicuffs" 😂😂😂

[@sugaplumfairy3]

I hope she sued their sorry asses

[@zakksykes5851]

I know you guys might not understand this, but that's exactly what should have happened. We can analyze the situation with the benefit of hindsight, but "in the moment" is a much different animal. They have to get statements, corroborate those statements, and continue on. It's a process. It sucks. It's not fair. It's stressful. If the world was a perfect place, we could just take someone's word for it and we wouldn't need investigations and it would be all sunshine and rainbows.

[@mmaybee4379]

@Checkmate Chess Channel whole lot of assumptions. Your making yourself look like a obvious 🐑. Go bitch somewhere else

[@MsNoPixel]

I’m sure I speak for just about everyone who watches this channel when I say this... You sir have a magical way of telling stories, like seriously you’ve had me captivated since the first day I’ve found your channel, I appreciate your story teller skills & all the research you do to provide us with every detail/aspect of a case. Thankyou for providing us with content & Thankyou for bringing light to these horrible tragedies so the victims may never be forgotten.

[@rehab5355]

I think it is also voices, expressions....like that 911 Operator...She just draws you in with her sweet expression...It's a gift ...maybe you can learn some of the techniques, but a voice is From Heaven or Hell...

[@CoExist64]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@endcensorship874]

Better than so much of what you see on TV or Streaming services. A natural storyteller, telling stories well.

[@maryallen9922]

I agree and I'm from Canada!

[@raoulkurvitz6305]

@@maryallen9922 :-D))))))))))))!!!

[@themysteriousdomainmoviepalace]

One thing I've learned form these videos: its bloody dangerous to be beautiful, happy, outgoing and having a big smile.

[@macklinillustration]

I'm so safe then.

[@kaseyresto6717]

I'm in the clear then

[@bobbywright6062]

You CAN be all those things but you just have to: A. Not be drunk and emotionally charged B. Assess situations at all times C. Stay off the streets past bar closing, especially if ur a pretty girl

[@jen182ifer]

@@bobbywright6062 isn‘t it nice how a man explains woman how they not get killed. You do know a lot of times it’s not being drunk and out late. There are bad people out there and if you meet the wrong one you are in shit no matter what.

[@Lavieenrose99999]

Sad

[@lisahinton9682]

I was so happy to hear Isabela sitting down with two detectives telling them how she put two and two together, and realized her husband was responsible for the missing Kaylee, and knowing ahead of even the cops that Kaylee was dead. But she did it! Hats off to her, right? Then I was so disappointed, disgusted even, when, in Spanish she tells him that she doesn't know what she can do to help him, but whatever she is able to do, she will help him. Wow. Guess she missed the warm body in the bed next to her, just like Kaylee's family and friends miss her presence. Disgusting lady, that Isabela.

[@SWIFTY_WINS]

For everyone commenting on how a killer and rapist was suddenly "worried" about it being illegal to talk on the phone with 911 while driving, I get it and agree yea that was cringy and stupid, but he was doing that for obvious psychological reasons attempting to really show the authorities how much he supposedly cares now about doing the right thing and clearly way overcompensating in the process lol.

[@JerryListener]

This is one of the most powerful videos I've seen in my 40 years on earth. That interrogating officer is amazing. So poetic and concise. What a caring individual and a stand-up citizen.

[@Jugglenaught1980]

You think this is good? Watch the JCS Criminology on Chris Watts, it will blow your mind!

[@philiptucker7590]

Did you not watch the video….? The interrogation officer refused to get him his lawyer therefore null and voiding the entire confession and map 🤦🏼‍♂️ Not even a rookie cop/detective would do something so dumb

[@hunterbiden7391]

That detective was very profound and moving and you could tell he really really cared.

[@renataangelov9435]

And a God knowing fearing man....that is what we should all be

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

There were two interrogators.

[@shayy9724]

The family friends speech at the end gave me chills. I need someone like that on my team. 💯

[@bharv2309]

Lara: “I kidnapped her” Police: “Andrea, you’re under arrest for being kidnapped.”

[@NevadaLamb]

From my understanding, she was detained. Not actually arrested. It’s procedure since the only knowledge they had was Edwin saying she was a hostage. They have to verify the story since they can’t take him at face value.

[@nscott2590]

“I’m not that kind of guy.” BRUH WTF

[@OnlyTwoShoes]

He meant he's not the kind of guy to rape a girl with STDs. Man has standards apparently 🙄

[@thaddeuscheeleyjr.369]

Exactly what I was thinking when I heard that. I gave the biggest double take. Like , "Bruh, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE AT WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW!!"

[@wafawaffles]

the girl probably had to use all of her willpower to not snort at that when he said that right after he did all that the previous night..

[@crimsonhitman3920]

YES YOU ARE YOU FUCKING PSYCHO!!!!!

[@bresams2917]

Yes, that shit had me aggravated, you doing a live after killing an innocent woman, and another kidnapped in the car... What kind of guy are you maniac!

[@rosab6127]

That police officer almost made me cry. He must be a father to a daughter. This whole case breaks my heart.

[@kellieastburn6726]

He kept saying he was sorry. BS. and he said, “sorry about that girl.” That girl?? Dude.

[@jesterssketchbook]

lol ikr

[@seanniearmor7062]

Sorry to that man

[@addie_is_me]

And the other girls. He was a rappo.

[@christinejohnston8977]

He was a manipulative, egotistical sociopath with narcissistic tendencies... and I'm sure he still is.

[@endcensorship874]

I found this channel a few weeks ago, and I became smitten with it and just watched whenever I had free time. Love Mike's story telling, and his stories are so compelling. Then, this story... I live in here in Bend, have for 20 years. Kaylee and I had mutual friends, not that I was friends with her. This story, it just guts me. To watch it all over again, it tears at me. Good Lord, Kaylee never deserved such a terrible ending. God rest her soul. But Edwin? Bury him under the furnace room of Hell...

[@leahosborne1380]

Andrea was so freaking smart! And that monster was only ever crying for himself. R.I.P Kayley 😔❤️

[@frankfagnano3330]

I was having a pretty awful day until I got the notification that you dropped a new video. Total turnaround. Thank you much!

[@ThatChapter]

Thanks Frank, hope this makes it just a lil bit better!

[@three-stripes]

Yeah my day gets better after tree o'clock!

[@WobblesandBean]

I agree, but it's kinda messed up to say your day improves by hearing about a brutal rape and murder 😂

[@three-stripes]

@@WobblesandBean Well when someone murders me, I'll be honored to be on that chapter. Of course I can't watch it though, that sucks.

[@lw3894]

Damn frank.... you hardcore

[@jennross8808]

Hey You! Just wanted to let you know, You're Amazing! Love this channel, Love You!

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you so much Jenn!!

[@Sonic_Shroom]

That victim impact statement by the family friend was pure gold.

[@flayful]

Poor Kaylee... She really did try to survive. Imagine how many times she came back to life and to suffer multiple attempts. This man is pure evil 😈. And cringeworthy full of himself.

[@pastelunicorn6981]

What really irritates me is when they say to the police “don’t shoot me I don’t want to die” but you took someone’s life. I don’t know why it annoys me it just does

[@samgrady5614]

Psychopathic and narcissistic tendencies for sure.

[@pastelunicorn6981]

Travel Lover lol you okay hun?

[@youlittlerocket]

But you killed a unicorn

[@pastelunicorn6981]

youlittlerocket no unicorns were harmed in the making of my KZbin username 🦄

[@koolade2sweet]

There was this guy that killed his GF supposedly because she wouldn’t stop smoking cigarettes while pregnant, I think he killed an officer who tried to approach him after that. So then this POS gets on the stand and says he’s Vegan and doesn’t believe in killing God’s creations. Loco!

[@network735]

Feel awful for her boyfriend, he must have been worried sick.

[@archlich4489]

I wish him well.

[@marybeth1579]

Love lookin back at how much ure personality has progressively shined thru to ure videos - love the humor u have now

[@hereleego8071]

I've never smoked crack or done Heroin, however I'm pretty sure a 36mins ThatChapter video is a comparable buzz.

[@rustyshack2349]

Don't do it but you're wrong

[@uremawifenowdave]

rustyshack very, very wrong.

[@fredspofford]

I regrettably know that it's not even in the same ballpark but yeah I get it, you get an unambiguously euphoric feeling hearing unsettling, disturbing and tragic true stories about the worst behaviors of humanity?

[@dalegribble5661]

HereLeeGo.....i like ur photo😏

[@scaparapadoobedoooo3170]

Wrong

[@darkreyule]

Highly impressed with that 911 dispatcher, she was quick on her feet.

[@taylorgallion2748]

MVP

[@rodrigogalilea9409]

If someone is interested in a loose translation from spanish: Basically, the woman says that she is going to do whatever she can to help him, then he replies in english that they might know spanish, then she answers that she just was speaking to him normal, like always (so i guess they speak spanish to each other at home) and finishes that she cannot really do much, but she will do what she can to help him.

[@yourdaddy6030]

Andele pues

[@frankmedrisch7451]

El 80% de lo que escribiste ya estaba en ingles 😂

[@2004dale]

Thanks for translating but that’s kind of a bummer that she reverts back to being willing to help him after doing an awesome job of turning his ass in with his confession. I low key get it- that’s her man. But still it’s hard to hear. He doesn’t deserve help.

[@sunrae7680]

Thank you Rodrigo.

[@tamsin1969]

Thanks for that. Why she'd want to help him though, I dont know.

[@johnlittle7181]

Poor Andrea can't catch a break; Kidnapped, falsely arrested and a nasty case of syphilis!

[@TroubledOnePaydirt]

I can’t imagine the anger that grandpa must be living with. That statement was straight up hardcore emotional distress. I feel so bad for that family and that poor girl. Totally agree with gramps. “Pow!” 🤬

[@SteppingStone445]

Troublesum1980 FromCincinnati that was a family friend who said that 😇

[@TroubledOnePaydirt]

Sarah McGrath oh, for some reason I thought they said that was her grandpa... still, wow. Whole lotta anger. I’ve lost friends to gunfire so I can somewhat understand. But I can’t imagine losing a child the way that girls family did. Horrible.

[@SteppingStone445]

Troublesum1980 FromCincinnati the grampa was speaking just before the POW clip so I understand the confusion! And yes those words are words to live by!

[@TroubledOnePaydirt]

Sarah McGrath yeah that’s probably where I got confused... 👍

[@glxssy8037]

I never miss a That Chapter upload. Seriously. I love you Mike!

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you so much for watching my stuff!

[@1962pjh]

You left out the part that the cops strip searched Andrea, fingerprinted her, photographed her, and released her mug shot to the press! I hope she sues big time. Not the way to treat a kidnap victim.

[@webbotubes]

Jesus, that's horrific. Poor girl. Yes arrest initially. Have to - but take her to custody, question her and treat her kindly until release.

[@marcgalloway7806]

Just goes to show that you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent rather than the way they play the innocent until guilty card. Fucking dickhead police!!!

[@veronikahorecny6450]

He said they arrested her at first because they thought she was in on it. When you get arrested (in the US) you get strip searched, finger printed, and a mug shot is taken and released to public records and the media has access to it. I think it was fucking asinine for them to assume she had anything to do with, especially since they should have had evidence (CC tv, testimony from family he kidnapped, the video he took of her) to prove she was kidnapped. Plus she was in no way linked to the crime. It made zero sense. But it’s not like he purposely left out key information, or this is information being hidden or ignored. Most people are aware that when you’re arrested these things ALWAYS happen. I mean come on it’s a true crime channel. Most people know what happens when you get arrested lol

[@rachelblake2350]

@@veronikahorecny6450 Yeah I was going to say that that seemed like pretty standard procedure, but then I thought about just how fucking easy it would be to figure out she had nothing to do with it just by the circumstances alone.

[@1962pjh]

@Amanda R No, she should have been treated like a victim from the beginning until they could prove she did something. You must love living in a Gestapo type society. Idiot.

[@xxthexcaliburxx]

Imagine being a girl (I'm a guy) being abducted by some guy who then, while you're sitting in a driving car with him straight up says "I'm sorry about that girl I killed, I killed that girl because she screamed and I had to silence her forever" Poor Andrea, that must've been the most terrifying thing to hear from her kidnapper.

[@katieweird7053]

I hope the strength she found to traverse those fucking unimaginable, intolerable hours on/in constant survival mode have led to a badass ted talk.

[@siggyretburns7523]

Not that it matters, but...how did a guy get a name like Autumn? Just curious. 🤔

[@katarinawychor9816]

"If you're wondering if i did anything dirty to her. I did not. I'm not that type of guy"....ummmm You are exactly that type of guy...

[@laurenleeonethree]

The family friend at the end is an ENTIRE mood. I mean, a bad mood. But a mood nonetheless.

[@LeeDee5]

the Spanish section of the call: Isabel: ok- look I... ok... you know how these things work so limit [the things] you are telling me, I'm doing what I can do for you (Edwin in English: this call is being recorded) Isabel: that's why... what i'm trying to say is that i'm not going to do that much but I will see what I can do to help you

[@shadaraghotboi2093]

Thank you

[@briancrawford69]

Her being a cop has to know the call is recorded and that Spanish isn't some alien language, it's pretty easily translated. She's not to bright either

[@skyszy8841]

I mean a bright person wouldn't help him at all

[@saab9251]

The fact that she’s a cop and decided to help this piece of shit get out of whatever he could is astounding.

[@vtwinbuilder3129]

saab92513584 I have to imagine her fellow cops and detectives that knew details might’ve spared telling her. For a couple of reasons, one they didn’t want her to tell him and hurt their case. Two, she is/was married to the guy, if they told her all the details she’d be likely to have some kind of mental breakdown or worse, cops really aren’t in the business of traumatizing people if they can avoid it. I’m not sticking up for her but if all she really knew was what the media was saying based on what little police will say and what Edwin is saying she may not have known just how bad what he did was. I’m not defending her but she did love the guy enough to marry him. She saw something in him so it’s not so unreasonable that she’d be inclined to help him. Of course her being a cop it kinda makes you wonder what she meant by “help”. It could mean help get him a lawyer or help by hiding evidence or something.

[@catherinedoyle1194]

Followed your channel for a couple of years and will always stick with you Mike, your the greatest 🎉

[@lisakabula891]

Really wish the “friend of the family” had found him before the police. Then justice would have truly been served.

[@RA28xx91]

Yes and no...they would probably be shoot also....

[@deroxanlit4181]

The friends of family were looking for him ?? I only heard the old man was saying something eagle eat his corpse

[@TheStar798]

I LOVED the emotion in the detective's voice as he spoke of how loved and precious she was to her parents.

[@dominantasmr578]

I love the detective interviewing him at 27:00. Dude emotionally destroyed the killer in such a savage yet beautiful way.

[@ChrisOhMy]

It was pretty unprofessional. It should not be celebrated at all.

[@kylel7158]

@@ChrisOhMy good thing you're a cop and are professional at all times. we are not worthy.

[@ValkyriePROfail]

It was indeed extremely unprofessional, like in many ways. "God....", "an angel not a hooker" (like if sex workers werent also human beings that deserve the same) and so on.

[@jamallee1510]

@@ValkyriePROfail but bro.... he did a good thing and got the guy to spit it out. This guy is a scumbag so what the cops methods were "uNpRoFeSsIoNaL" he did what had to be done?

[@calvinm10]

Heard about this case on Sword and Scale podcast. The best true crime podcast out there by far!

[@tinkpinkshorty13]

How's he going to plead for "forgiveness" when he didn't listen to Kaylee's when she was pleading for her life! I'am glad that he didn't continue to give into his "urges". Also, I know his wife went straight to the police but how is she sticking by him? God, I hope she didn't believe his BS story. Why was she speaking Spanish on the phone, they will just get an interpreter. Finally, Thank you for another great "OLD VIDEO" Mike. Happy to hear you saying it again.

[@AllenFreemanMediaGuru]

Pink FairyGirl13 His wife was on the police force, uh, she knew they could translate Spanish. Strange.

[@valsptsd814]

People often speak their first language when in stressful situations.....

[@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence]

I'm pretty glad my urges are geared towards causing the maximum amount of damage and pain on a box of cookies or some potato chips. Not peoples.

[@CryptoTonight9393]

When he says "I'm not that kind of guy" you can see the wheels turning in his head realizing wait I am that kind of guy.

[@jen30551]

And that smirk on his face the whole time is nauseating.

[@amristar736]

Yeah, he was even sounding proud of himself when he said that. What a piece of shit.

[@Scorch428]

aww shit, fam....scratch that last part....thats me to a T!

[@jojobean2309]

The detective interviewing and giving him that talk, man I got choked up.