The Identity of the Fantastic yet Mysterious Rose is… | Rose Flower Carpet | Rose Pink Supreme

[@Thunderbird68-i2f]

If you live in a temperate climate and winterkill isn't an issue, then yes, flower carpet roses can grow that big if not hard pruned during the spring. Gorgeous rose, BTW!! 🌹🇨🇦

[@latoyathomas2136]

Hi Jay Jay I’m a huge supporter living in the USA and once I saw your videos I became completely in love with Rose but mostly the David Austin, Kordes, and any rose with huge blooms, unique beauty to them, quarters or colors that stand out. I pray that one day I can visit rose gardens all around the globe but the English Gardens are my favorite. If you have time could you email to send you cuttings from some American roses.

[@wendybartlett6717]

Wow, that is beautiful Jay Jay. Glad that you've got a name for it.

[@Jay_Jay]

Thanks lovely Wendy and sorry for not responding sooner, btw when I typed your name initially, spell check changed it to wine day. How cool is that:)

[@wendybartlett6717]

My family would say that is very apt for me Jay Jay as I'm always on the wine! Glad it didn't say whine day as I can be a bit of a moaner putting the worlds to right! People who don't indicate when they're driving is one of my bug bearers. Hope you are all well at your end.@@Jay_Jay

[@gavinparry5426]

Good to put a name to it JJ 👍🌹

[@Jay_Jay]

Indeed mate sorry I’m just catching up on comments

[@bloombaag]

Great effort mate. I understand it’s pain to establish a true identity of the mystery rose.

[@nikkonch]

Well, I wasn't expecting that! A rampant ground cover rose! 😯

[@Jay_Jay]

100 percent nik. If left alone this rose will grow tall like a continual flowering rambler.

[@lazarusdouvos]

amazing

[@Tom-ku3bf]

Beautiful Rose. I really like it. I do have Sunset Carpet in a pot and recently it seems to have doubled in size. Maybe save some of those seeds when they ripen see if you can get any good seedlings.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Tom, yes it is a lovely rose and performance wise it’s second to none in my garden. Sunset carpet is a rose I haven’t heard of but I know there are many in that collection of roses. Regarding the seedlings I have already taken many cuttings from this rose and it roots super easy. Ive given them all away and are all doing very well in their new homes. Best of luck with yours ;)

[@shafqathussain9954]

Hi Jay Jay it does look like the pink flower carpet ground cover rose and i have seen pink flower carpet rose grow big. 😊

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi and thank you yes I think it can grow substantially taller than the advertised 2ft in height.

[@shafqathussain9954]

Hi Jay Jay, i am glad to say that the pink flower carpet rose has been mixed planted in planting schemes in my local park, and i have planted it in my garden too. 😊

[@katrinaelle7774]

It's called Heidetraum in Germany/Austria! Planted it bare root in a half barrel this year and it has absolutely exploded! I don't know if I should move it next year, because it seems a shame to prune it down. Hands down the healthiest rose in my garden, and still flowering when everything else has started settling down for the autumn.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Katrina, this rose here I do know is also bare root. The former resident of the house next door was a renown gardener in the area and she grew her own roses bare root from cuttings she had taken. I grew several roses from this plant and if your growing one in a half barrel I know it will spread and cascade down the sides (aswell as growing upwards) so it’s up to you how you prune it. But a magnificent performing rose and I believe German in origin. Noack are the breeders I believe. Thank you for the information and best of luck with yours ;)

[@Karincl7]

Thank you I m from Belgium the only info I find in Dutch is Heidetraum also

[@Michelle-tn4bj]

Right when you walked up to it I knew who it was immediately. Pink Supreme Flower Carpet, I have one along my driveway and I always say this rose is a climber. I love it for its foliage, dark green, just enough shine and always looks healthy.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Michelle and well spotted. Yes I don’t see how many people don’t realise this (including me who dismissed the idea ) if left it will 100 percent climb aswell as spread. The one you see here is growing as a rambling type climber up my neighbours fence. How tall is yours? And thanks for the update I will change the title. ;)

[@Michelle-tn4bj]

Not sure why but my reply didn’t save and if it did, apologies for the duplicate! I’ve only had mine for two seasons and only this season in the ground. It is about 2’ tall and 6-7’ wide. I may try some white ones out on the hell strip. Definitely the healthiest and most trouble free rose out of the 90 I have. Would also recommend it to anyone who doesn’t have the time to maintain roses on a regular basis. I’m in Coastal Southern California so ymmv..

[@Jay_Jay]

@@Michelle-tn4bj wow thank you Michelle. Since making this video it appears there is a version of this rose called climbing or plus added to its name. But I don’t know if it’s all the same actual variety. It all comes under the “pink flower carpet ground cover” category and I know people have bought it for ground cover and it’s actually climbing for them if left and it’s canes elevated as it grows. So please do keep us updated. And so glad to hear it’s doing well in Southern California. A magnificent rose. Thank you

[@hungariancottageadventure77]

beautiful rose , i really like the centers when the leaves become loose.🌹well done for fining the name

[@Jay_Jay]

Thanks potager yes a wonderful rose thank you. Hope your well. ;)

[@myswedishcottagegarden]

That is a beautiful rose! I´d like to put an electrical fence around my place to stop the wild boar entering!

[@Jay_Jay]

Wild boar wow. It’s very easy to do, I’m thinking about it for my front garden. Best of luck.

[@marilynsmith8054]

Jay you are like me a dog with a bone. 🐩 It’s gorgeous I take it the neighbour inherited it.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Marilyn yes the neighbour inherited from an old lady who use to live there. She died several years ago but was and still is a much celebrated gardener with an annual gardening competition in her name. We knew the rose was an own root that she propagated but outside of that we knew nothing. I’ve no doubt she saw this rose flowering at this time of year perhaps, and decided it was good enough for her garden. :)

[@makeyourlifebeautiful1652]

Omg Jay my neighbour has this all in their frount garden. Its still absolutely covered in flowers!

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Hailey great to hear from you. Hope you are well. Yes this is the rose. I read it’s the worlds most popular rose? If your neighbour doesn’t know the identity well this is what I’ve found. Has it grown as big as this? I read online if it’s not cut back hard it will continue to grow tall. But as you can see still Continue to perform.

[@makeyourlifebeautiful1652]

I am well thankyou..I've been quiet recently as im 6 months pregnant with our first little one! Very exciting! So much i have missed doing in the garden this year! So my neighbour has atleast 10 all planted together and they are about 3ft tall. He gives them a hard prune after first flush and all thr flowers are back again in a few weeks. I will take a quick video at the weekend so you can see. They really do look amazing and always make me thing I bet they are similar in health and flower power to the American knockout roses

[@evabosbach60]

Hi There is a rose called Heidetraum, which grows up to about 1 m, has won several prizes ( worldrose 2022, ADR 1990 +2021), extremely healthy , blooming a long time and theres also Heidetraum plus, which is a climbing rose, up to 3 m, which got also several prizes (goldenrose 2017, ADR 2014). Both from Noack. In Switzerland they are quite common and often planted in public parks because they are so healthy and dont need much maintenance. The only missing thing is fragrance.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi and thank you. Yes since making the video this was pointed out. But I’m not positive the ground cover version isn’t the same rose as the climber in a similar way to Gertrude which can be grown as a climber or shrub depending on how it is pruned. Either way a 1m tall rose can be so much more than a ground cover rose. I have heard of people growing this ground cover variant and it’s turned into a climber for them hence my confusion. But a fantastic performing rose :) and thank you.

[@soulgirlktf]

YaY ! well done Jay Jay. Mystery solved haha I know the feeling well - only Sophie is still a mystery to me 🤔 I said on your previous Next Door's Rose vid you did that there is a climbing Flower Carpet rose that it could be. I think I've inherited one too! I call it Norma' rose, the lady who lived here, but it's a dead ringer for Flower Carpet :)

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Linda yes really sorry about not giving you a gold star also. I’ll make it up to you in a future vid. :) I must have dismissed it because I knew I had already done some research on flower carpet and failed to find one that grew more than 2ft in height as advertised. There are a couple of KZbin videos on it kinda waist height but they all get pruned down hard to encourage the spread across the ground. Your gorgeous girl I’m sure sooner or later you will get a name. You’ll spot one sooner or later and be knocking on doors same as me :) mine was perhaps easier as it’s so prolific flowering still at this time of year. But you’ll get there I’m sure :)

[@soulgirlktf]

@@Jay_Jay No need for a star I'm just chuffed you know what it is now 'cos when I don't know the ID of a rose it bugs me too ! The sites that sell climbing Flower Carpet say it grows from 1.8m to some saying 3.6 metres so anything goes ! The one in my garden is a cutting I took last year and it has flowered non stop I put it in the no dig bed and it's still full of flower now 🤩 I may have to move it in time, if it gets too big for it's boots in there. So happy you know what it is now 👍🌹

[@Jay_Jay]

Wow this last comment got me surfing the web. I never knew a climbing version existed from retailers. Heidatrum I think is the name given to it from breeders Noack. They say that rose grows to 70-80 cm. I cannot find a climbing rose version on there particular website but I have emailed them asking just that. At present I’m unsure if it’s the same rose that can climb OR spread depending on how it’s pruned. Or if there is a separate climbing version. I have seen on the web people have bought it as ground cover but it’s now climbing up there house. Those long canes meant to be sprawling across the ground but are being trained upwards to climb. I see now it’s sold as a climber elsewhere but I’m interested to now know if it’s the same rose. :)

[@Jay_Jay]

Linda Linda Linda you were right all along. Noack got back to me they did say there is a climbing version called heidetraum PLUS. But didn’t say if it was the same variety of rose (like a climbing or shrub Gertrude for instance). The confusion being I’ve seen people buy the ground cover version and it’s climbing for them. I think possibly all the flower carpet range are said to be (or assumed to be) ground cover roses but perhaps the climbing version has a different growing habit. I’ve adjusted the description as best I can but I will try and clear this up in a future video as it gets confusing. Thanks once again and sorry for completely disregarding and tossing away your invaluable words 😂😂😂. Thanks Linda x x

[@soulgirlktf]

@@Jay_Jay haha you're so sweet I'm just throwing out best guesses like everyone else. I have checked helpmefind site in the past for a climbing registered variety but can't see one. The Heidetraume you mention is also registered as a shrub to 4' approx. along with the other patents and trade names like Pink Veil and Floral Carpet and Emera but none of them are registered as 'climbers' but I found many online sites selling it as a climber. EDIT: Sorry, I missed 'plus' off when I was searching. 'Hiedetraum Plus' Emera Grimpant and NOA907500IS are registered as a climbers with height range given as : 6'7" to 11½' (200 to 350cm). A sport of Heidetraum. Mystery solved, well done 👏

[@rareandwonderfull]

0:39 It looks like what we here in the USA call a rambler rose. Except that ramblers finish up here around late July. Also the term "rambler" is quite vague. 0:55 , there you go, a "ground cover rose" what we call a rambler rose , yours is blooming extremely late for a rambler though. 4:16 For the past 5 or so years, my focus in how to give various plants what they need to thrive has led me to think/say that the closer that we come to giving the plant the environment that it has in it's native land, the better that it shall thrive. After 5 years of this, I then began to realize, that much of the surreal, glorious plants that we grow never even existed in the environment of the plants nativity. I began to realize that much of what we grow are recessive gene types, recessive because they don't even have what is needed to survive in their native habitat. Therefore, these plants are afflicted with many things. It appears to me that the Red Carpet rambler rose that you are explaining to us is a dominant plant type. Dominant because it "thrives on neglect". Whereas, recessive gene type would long ago have succumbed to mildew, or insects, or any number of things. Therefore, many of our most soul meltingly beautiful plants must be babied, fussed over, fungicided, pesticided etc. etc. because they lack what is needed to be strong survivors. 7:53 Oh wow! Elegant dog. The favored companion of the Art Nouveau, 1890s ladies. ... also Art Deco, Edwardian, the tall, slender, chic ladies loved to be seen with their tall, lean, elegant whippets. 8:48 Yes, we MUST have electric fence around our vegetable garden or the deer would devour everything. Although your whippet may have a bad experience with electric fence.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi there sorry for not responding sooner. Yes this rose it appears to thrive regardless what gets thrown at it. This flowers pretty much all summer long. Perhaps two flushes but each flush just goes on and on and on. Even now it’s still sending up new buds.

[@rareandwonderfull]

No problem, We all just share ideas, then hurry on to whatever must be done, I enjoy your show and tell. Ralph in Ohio. Oh, you MUST have a Poet's Wife, here we are 2+ weeks into Octeober and she keeps on making blooms for me, a handful of perfume, golden perfume. @@Jay_Jay

[@debbiewilson6527]

Beautiful 💕

[@Jay_Jay]

Thank you. All credit to the rose and my neighbour :)

[@N.G.666]

Hi Jay, maybe it's the musky climbing rose Dinky (Velheav) Belgium.

[@RichRich-iy5jb]

Hey Jay Jay, can you use this rose as a climber for a trellis ?

[@intanbaharuddin2703]

❤wait....no....it's # Flammentz😊 very vigorous😊😂

[@Jay_Jay]

Yes it’s vigorous it grows 10ft tall and wide if left alone.

[@intanbaharuddin2703]

Must be a rambler then, known to be invasive & vigorous plus, so high up :)

[@FireflyOnTheMoon]

Crazy that you can grow a ground cover rose as a standard. "Ground cover" and "carpet" seems a huge misnormer. I have put in Flower Carpet Amber and think it may be a mistake as it is needed to be low growing.

[@gardensenglishandtrivia]

It is a really beautiful rose, I think I have never seen it in anyone's garden over here or I have been unable to identify it properly.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi English. This time of year if you see a vibrant heavy flowering rose a cerise pink especially if it’s been left alone to grow tall and wide you won’t miss it. They say it’s the worlds most popular rose although that I’m not convinced. But I do see it growing in localised spots. As I suggested in the video if you see one chances are you’ll see more in that area. This rose growing in a neighbourhood isn’t something that would get missed by anyone green fingered. So usually cuttings are taken from the local donor rose hence seeing 3,4, 7 all in close proximity ;)

[@gardensenglishandtrivia]

​@@Jay_Jay I'm not convinced either, unless one thinks of the UK or/and the US as "the world" ;-) I'm thinking of buying one, after I've extended the garden by some sort of sorcery first, of course.

[@Jay_Jay]

@@gardensenglishandtrivia it’s called Heidetraum in Europe I think. But as is being discussed in the comments I’m unsure if there is an actual climbing version of this variety or if it’s all the same actual rose just pruned and trained differently. I have emailed Noack in my best Google translate German asking them, because I can’t interpret their website. If only I knew German and English :) ) )

[@gardensenglishandtrivia]

@@Jay_Jay I am 99% sure it is the climbing Heidetraum-PLUS by Noack, grows up to 3m, repeats flowering until October :-)

[@shafqathussain9954]

Hi Jay Jay, i have come across a flower carpet pink climber rose for sale. 😊 ❤ ❤ ❤

[@Jay_Jay]

Cracking rose and very much underestimated I think. No fragrance but awesome performance outside of that.

[@fonzy1987hh]

What’s the strongest scented rose you have in your garden? Also, what is the most pleasant scented rose in your garden? Hope to see more videos soon :)

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi there. Scent can be a very complex thing and be different for different people on different days. Rose mum in a million and rose Jasmina both radiate and project fragrance better than any other rose I have in my garden. I can smell them both a long distance away. And on there day often the most intense. But remember that’s for my nose in my garden on most days (but not all.) The most pleasant if asking here and now I would suggest boscobel. I really do like that fragrance. Bliss Parfuma is also a fragrance I find very pleasant. Hope this helps but scent can be a very complex thing and be different for different people on different days. Thanks

[@syedsarah7829]

Hello jj sir.

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi Syed Sarah

[@jasonwoods4811]

Didn't you make a cutting of it? about the Wedding Day Rose is waiting for you, to pick up when you got time and in the area mate

[@Jay_Jay]

Yes mate I did take several cuttings of this rose they are all doing well but I gave them all away. The one I featured in a video I gave to next door on the opposite side, it’s doing very well. About the wedding rose that’s very kind mate I didn’t realise it was for me that’s very kind mate next time I’m up that way I’ll contact you Jason. Cheers mate.

[@jasonwoods4811]

@@Jay_Jay I'll make you a coffee and you can have good look at my roses if you want you can make a video :D

[@Jay_Jay]

@@jasonwoods4811 that’s very kind mate I will do certainly. Next time o go to my sisters in rose season I’ll drop in. Cheers mate

[@jasonwoods4811]

@@Jay_Jay Your very welcome buddy :D

[@intanbaharuddin2703]

❤looks more like the hardy & resistant # Ena Harkness to me😂

[@Jay_Jay]

Hi defo pink flower carpet :)

[@angelgardenvlog]

Hello I just subscribed your channel :))) Nice place. My Autum Garden is in full bloom and we're excited to share it with you as we take you on a virtual tour of flower garden! @angelgardenvlog