The Ignatius Study Bible - Old and New Testament

[@deathshead3662]

Another great review. As a Catholic I cannot tell you how much I appreciate a Protestant brother in Christ fairly reviewing Catholic Bibles while not being afraid to talk about our theological disagreements with charity and kindness. God bless you.

[@anthonypetrozzelli5429]

Agreed! I appreciate the goodwill of my Protestant brother reviewing a Catholic Bible objectively and with charity and kindness toward the Catholic faith and teachings. There are many Catholics that have been converted from Protestantism, that love to study the Holy Scriptures.

[@Thomasrice07]

I second the appreciation of a Protestant brother reviewing a Catholic Bible is such an honest way.

[@jomudesimedia]

Gods of biBull If one can prove even a single aspect of the Bible to be true, it could suggest that the entire text is valid. Conversely, if one can disprove anything within it, that would imply that the Bible is fundamentally flawed. A major debate surrounding the Bible today is whether it represents a monotheistic or polytheistic faith. Before we delve deeper, it's important to clarify a common misconception: the Bible is not the word of God. It was not authored by God, nor does God claim to be its author. The Bible was written by human scribes and is based on what is often described as the inspired word of God. However, no original fragments of the Bible or the Hebrew Testament exist today; all we have are copies. This raises questions about the preservation of what is claimed to be God's word. After numerous translations, we can no longer ascertain the original text, leading to disputes over its meaning. Ultimately, these words are human interpretations, not necessarily divine. Let’s set aside the question of divine authorship and examine the text itself. According to biblical scripture, there is not just one monotheistic God, but rather many gods, indicating a polytheistic framework. The term "Elohim," often translated as "God," is actually a plural form in Hebrew. The singular form is "El," referring to the Most High God. Thus, when we read "God" in the Bible, it translates to "Elohim." For instance, in Genesis 1:1, the phrase should be understood as "In the beginning, many gods created the heavens and the earth. The Hebrew Bible refers to God as "El," which is the singular form of the most high deity among the "Elohim," or gods. "Elohim" itself is a plural term derived from "El." Thus, when you read the word "God" in the Bible, you are actually reading "Elohim" in Hebrew. For instance, in Genesis 1, the phrase "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth" can be interpreted as "In the beginning, the Elohim created the heavens and the earth." This suggests that it is the council of gods, the Elohim, who are responsible for creation, indicating a polytheistic view rather than a strictly monotheistic one. Jesus is referred to as the only begotten Son of God the Father. The term "Father" denotes an adult male who has a child. Some people claim that Jesus is God in human form, but the Bible clearly states that Jesus is the offspring of God, making Him distinct from God the Father. This distinction suggests the existence of at least two divine figures, which aligns more with polytheism than monotheism. Historically, many religions have recognized a supreme deity, often worshiped as the ultimate ruler. The worship of gods often transitioned through various forms-initially focusing on goddesses, then male deities, and eventually on a son or offspring. In cultures like those of the Greeks and Romans, while there were many gods, one supreme deity often reigned. For example, Saturn (the father) is overthrown by his son Zeus (the god of thunder), who becomes the supreme god. Similarly, Baal rises to power in other traditions. In the context of the Bible, God is identified as Yahweh or Elohim, but many people are less familiar with the name of His Son, Jesus. Jesus is arguably the most widely worshiped figure today, embodying the same theological theme of a son who becomes a supreme deity. The God of the Bible, often referred to as the supreme deity, parallels the symbolism of Yahweh as a storm god associated with thunder, lightning, and floods. This connection is evident in the biblical narrative of the flood, which shares similarities with ancient flood stories from cultures like Sumer and Mesopotamia, as well as the tale of Zeus, who also sends a great flood. In the Bible, God reveals Himself through various names such as Asherah, Yahweh, or Elohim. Notably, in Genesis 1, the term "Elohim" is used during the creation of the universe, indicating that this is the same God who interacted with figures like Abraham, Moses, and Jacob. If you look up "God" in Strong's Concordance or a Hebrew lexicon, you'll find that in Genesis 1:1, it states, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." Here, "Elohim" clearly refers to the Creator. The term "Elohim" derives from a root word associated with God. This raises the question of whether this Elohim is the same as El, the high god from ancient Phoenician mythology. When we compare the biblical God, referred to as El, with El Toro, the ancient bull god of the Phoenicians, we find significant similarities in their attributes. Both are depicted as creator figures: the biblical God as the eternal, most high God and El Toro as the father god. Both deities are associated with wisdom and power, with the biblical God described as dwelling in a tent, similar to how the Ugaritic god resides. El is often depicted as the wise, gray-bearded ancient one. This suggests that the characteristics of the God of the Bible may reflect earlier mythologies, particularly that of El Toro, the ancient bull god.

[@zacharywalters7494]

I really can not understate how charitable and kind you are to us Catholics Tim. I know you have your issues with certain doctrine, but thank you for not throwing us under the bus like we're some wacky cult.

[@manfredcaranci6234]

That's right; I really have to give Tim a whole lot of credit in his extremely kind reviews of Catholic translations, without being in the least bit condescending, or subtly hurling insults. I was surprised when he said he is a Pentecostal, because typically that denomination is pretty strong in its condemnation of Catholicism. But Tim goes about his reviews w/o apology for doing so, and has NEVER said ANYTHING to make me as a Catholic want to stop viewing his postings. The NABRE would be much more "Catholic" had Tim been on their team!

[@holliecollier1523]

I am pentecostal. My pastor has always referred to Catholics as our brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@glennlanham6309]

@@holliecollier1523 I just ran up on a video Friday on KZbin where a Baptist pastor was saying Catholics are lying about being Christians...silliness

[@thomasmyers3808]

I’m Orthodox and I’m going to purchase this. Very excited about this study Bible. I also own and use the Jerome commentary. Glory to Jesus Christ! Thank you my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@PaulNizinskyj]

Yeah it’s probably going to be a lot more helpful than the Orthodox Study Bible. There are some serious translation and commentary problems with that Bible!

[@heavenbound7-7-7-7]

You don't need a gym in order to become fit, just buy The Ignatius Study Bible and you are good to go.

[@ggarza]

Thank you for the excellent review of this highly anticipated study Bible. I remember listening to my favorite Gordon-Conwell trained Presbyterian pastor, Dr. Scott Hahn, talking about this project in the 90’s. He found a publisher friendly to the project with Fr. Joseph Fessio and Ignatius Press who was excited about the project but insisted on publishing the study Bible a book at a time. At long last, we’ve made it!

[@adamaj74]

Catholic here. Honestly, a lot of us are baffled by the NABRE translation, particularly the commentary and notes. It was put together by over 100 scholars from disparate backgrounds and it shows, in my opinion. The notes and commentary seem to me to have a very critical/secular tone. I've seen many popular apologists, Catholic KZbinrs, priests, bishops, etc. speak out about the commentary in the NABRE. I don't use it, (I use the RSVCE). I've never seen a priest use it. For example, Father Mike Schmitz uses the RSVCE for his bible in a year podcast, and Bishop Barron uses the NRSVCE for his Word On Fire line of Bibles. I'm honestly not sure why they thought it was a good idea to put that type of commentary in a Bible for use by the laity. And the thing is, you can't get the NABRE without the commentary, it's a package deal. But, let me be clear: Catholics 100% believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. It's what we teach and it's stated clearly in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

[@kimberHD45]

There's no reason to be baffled, the NAB and its successor the NABRE are products of the same modernist liberal ilk that produced the new mass. They were designed to facilitate the subversion of the faith.

[@benabaxter]

FWIW: The USCCB holds copyright to the NABRE, and so it's what's in the lectionary. Therefore, it's what many Catholic study bibles have used.

[@Obilisk18]

I've come around on the NABRE as a translation. It actually makes some interesting translation choices which leave some doors open that other translations close. For instance, I feel pretty strongly that in Romans 2:14, that if the phrase "by nature" goes with "do not have the law" instead of "do", Paul's argument fits more neatly. But practically every translation forecloses that possibility by translating it as something like, "when the Gentiles who do not have the law, do by nature what the the law requires" and then put in a little footnote saying, "yeah, you could translate it 'when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature, do what the law requires' but we don't wanna". Well, the NABRE elegantly leaves it ambiguous with, "when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the...", with the lack of a comma allowing you to read it either way. Which is the right decision! That's not an unimportant verse! You might even say it's pretty near the heart of some Protestant/Catholic disagreements about what's going on in Romans. And when the original leaves it ambiguous, and you can leave it ambiguous, though maybe at the cost of somewhat clunky English, you should do so. Also, despite some, yeah, clunky English, there are books/sections that are quite good. I personally think that, on the whole, Isaiah is a touch more poetic in the NABRE than the RSV or ESV. Which is why I, too, am dismayed that you can't find a NABRE anywhere without the atrocious notes. I don't understand why the USCCB can't fix this. You don't even need notes. It has excellent cross-references (more extensive than you'll find in the ICSB) and you can include the variant translation or variant manuscript notes, so you don't even need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just allow for a printing with just that, something you can find in almost every translation.

[@toddvoss52]

@@Obilisk18. Agree in the main. Just dump the notes . I think it is most accurate but clunky in the letters of Paul. It accurately reproduces his difficult wording/syntax . For those texts it is actually more literal than RSV or ESV. But generally I prefer RSV/ESV for a better balance of literal and the poetic . This study Bible is my favorite (I’ve long had the NT and just got my Complete OT/NT) along with the Navarre Bible . The Navarre makes more frequent reference to liturgical references which I love .

[@adamaj74]

@@Obilisk18 I don't have too much of a problem with the translation by itself, though it has its own issues. It's mainly the notes and commentary. They can be really problematic. For example, there are some notes that flat out say Matthew was mistaken/ignorant/wrong, etc. Many videos and articles about it. Trent Horn has a video about the NABRE and its notes/commentary.

[@PaulFloresPhotography]

"So it could lay flat as God intended" lol, that was great!

[@patriotlegionRS]

is that a flat earth reference?

[@mortensimonsen1645]

​@@patriotlegionRS I doubt it

[@Rorschached]

So glad to see you finally posted a review for this! Thank you! One thing I noticed when I got my copy that I was quite shocked to discover, is that the study Bible didn't even come with a single ribbon! I would have expected 3-4 ribbons on this thing at a minimum given its size. I definitely threw in a cheap ribbon set into the spine, as I can definitely see myself needing to mark different pages or different sections of this Bible.

[@rpmgrlca]

I'm glad they went with RSV2CE. It's my favorite.

[@PaulNizinskyj]

They’re the ones who created the RSV2CE. 😊

[@mr.e8432]

Just got mine last week. It’s a beast! Probably will not use this for “daily reading” because there’s more notes than there is scripture, and I can already see myself spending more time in the notes and losing track of what I was doing. This will be my reference Bible if I need specific information on something, or come across something I don’t understand. I can grab this and find plenty of info. Great initial review. Quality Catholic bibles can be hard to come by. Appreciate you giving them some exposure.👍🏼

[@nan.starjak]

Thank you, Tim, great review. I'm really interested to see how the spine holds up after a few years of use. Because this is going to get a LOT of use!

[@larrym.johnson9219]

Catholic Here ! Thank you for your balanced review! I am absolutely orthodox. Thank you again for your niece review my brother 🔥🤟

[@michaelmarcus509]

Oriental orthodox, ordered 2 one for catholic friends and one for myself. Can’t wait till they arrive. Nice review thank you!

[@johnnyg.5499]

I just bought a copy of this Bible during the past week. Your review is excellent. And you're not kidding about how heavy it is!😮

[@jjwurtz]

Great view of the Ignatius Study Bible, you seem to go deeper into providing an overview of Catholic Bibles than most Catholics that review Bibles. Thanks for sharing.

[@bradgoodnight]

Another cool thing about this Bible: it is either the first or one of the very few study Bibles which was given Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat. Catholics typically want to see that in our translations, but rarely are there study notes that gain that type of approval. I think that speaks to the quality of this one. Thank you for reviewing it, and thank you for your kindness to Catholics. We appreciate you and your channel! Fantastic review!

[@etiennedevignolles7538]

Thank you for the review. I have the leather version on order from Amazon (in the UK), it is released on Dec 22nd here, just in time for Christmas!

[@emily12345haha]

Thank you for showing charity ❤️

[@peter.marshall]

Thanks for a quick but very fair overview of this new publication by Ignatius Press. Twenty-six years in the making. And still not available to us here in the UK until 22 December. 😊

[@etiennedevignolles7538]

Have you ordered yours? I'm hoping my Amazon order of it will arrive on Dec 22nd, that's usually how they do it.

[@peter.marshall]

@etiennedevignolles7538 Something went wrong with my order so I'm waiting for it to be sorted 🤞😊

[@etiennedevignolles7538]

@@peter.marshall 🤕

[@carlose4314]

The Catholic view of the literal sense of scripture combines academic, historical, and plain reading. The spiritual sense is how it relates to Jesus (allegorical sense), us (moral sense), and the future (anagogical sense).

[@RogerBesst]

A good alternative one volume edition is THE DIDACHE BIBLE, which is RVS-CE, with keys to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

[@gilstamaria]

I own the Didache Bible too. It's actually the RSV-2CE as well. It also includes a couple ribbons and has better detailed maps. However, this ICSB has so much more extensive notes and really is the gold standard. I'm looking at options to protect it such as the covers now offered at OreMoose, maybe a small brief case or satchel.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

I have that one too!

[@etiennedevignolles7538]

@@anickelsworthbiblereviews I was going to order the Didache, but it comes from the USA (to the UK), and I assumed that it has American spellings which really puts me off. Does it have American spellings?

[@peter.marshall]

@@RogerBesst I have the Didache Bible by Ignatius Press too. 😊👍

[@3ggshe11s]

For most people, especially non-Catholics who want to know how Catholics view the Bible in light of the catechism, the Didache will probably be sufficient. But for those of us who love doing a deep dive, the new Ignatius is an amazing resource.

[@tigerjazz61]

I love your channel!!! I have been waiting for you to review this Bible!!

[@denisosullivan4065]

Excellent review. No anti-Catholic canards. I hope to live long enough to take full advantage of this study Bible.

[@limen5442]

Excited for this! I do wish the cycle of readings included the traditional Roman one, but ah well. One can always have that on hand to the side.

[@stephenyoung8069]

I really appreciate how you handle the Catholic faith respectfully even though you obviously have strong points of disagreement. Thank you

[@anthonypetrozzelli5429]

Thank you so much for your review. As a traditional Catholic, I am excited for a Catholic study Bible that is comprehensive. This is a Bible for home study.

[@Truth833]

I have been using Ignatius study Bible online subscription for the last 3 years now. Love it. ❤

[@allencopeland6730]

Glad you recommend the hardcover. I was debating with myself which would be the best.

[@tgoeddemd]

I already have mine. Got leather. Strong recommendation to get hardcover. Why? Because of size thickness and weight.

[@tgoeddemd]

@ I understand. Everything I have is leather.

[@Steve51983]

It's too early to tell, but it will be interesting to see how well this bible holds up over time. Until I see one in person, this video doesn't sell me in wanting to rush out and get one. Sometimes bigger isn't always better.

[@pilgrim3387]

The new testament study has been out for years. They released the old testament study books individually as they were going along. This is the whole lot combined.

[@3ggshe11s]

Thanks for the review! It's a monster, isn't it? Just got my hardcover earlier in the week. I expected this to be the standard-bearer of Catholic study Bibles when it finally came out, and it does not disappoint. Yeah, they did thin the pages down, but considering the NT was practically printed on cardstock, there was plenty of leeway to work with while still making this volume accessible and legible. Also worth noting that there are lots of us Catholics who have major issues with the NABRE. Banal prose coupled with bad annotations... there's just not much to like. There are so many Catholic translations that are better: RSV2CE, New Catholic Bible, the 1966 Jerusalem Bible, ESVCE, Knox, even the old Douay-Rheims.

[@Nick-w9z]

Thanks for this Tim! Happy to see you come out and review this tome us Catholics have been waiting for. As always, appreciate your charity. God bless!

[@E9819_]

Could not have come at a better time! Starting my double degree in Philosophy and Theology in February, this will be perfect for home use. It would be good if they released an eBook version though, somehow I don’t see myself lugging this into uni…

[@nan.starjak]

You'll need a bookbag on wheels! 😁

[@AleksandarGeratovic-n7t]

Vau ! Pozdrav iz Srbije (Serbia 🇷🇸) .

[@Sonic2Chronicles]

Great review, can’t wait to buy this beautiful Bible some day.

[@Lux_Aeterna]

That's a biggun! Looking forward to seeing the review, I have the NT version and like it a lot

[@brucemcqueen5395]

"As God Intended", I love that.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Ha ha. I say it every time.

[@seanbrittmusic]

So psyched for this!

[@thomaskloecker1572]

My old eyes love the 10.4-point font of the already published Ignatius NEW Testament Study Bible. I want to see an Ignatius OLD Testament Study Bible in 10.4 font someday! This new 2024 edition of both testaments has a 9-point font which will be fine for most people, but a tad too small to be comfortable reading for me. I have the Ignatius New Testament in 10.4, and I will continue to collect the larger-font single Old Testament Ignatius editions (Genesis, Exodus, ...) in the meantime.

[@hogstooth5048]

I really enjoyed your review, and look forward to watching more of you. As a Catholic, I appreciate your way of honest and fair discussion. Excited to receive my copy of it, and agree the NAB is one to avoid if possible.

[@Bbarfo]

I bought the Skeptics Bible several years ago and it's a very informative study bible.

[@usenwill]

Really excited to get this Bible. I do think Ill end up having to buy another copy as Im skeptical yhis initial version will be sturdy enough

[@Zay_WiHN]

You should definitely invest in pva glue for books any problems arise just a qtip and some glue for the bindings and end pages, it will look like it didn’t even happen! Also i got it in leather added some double sided satin ribbons looks fantastic i went with navy blue but i ran out unfortunately 😢 but i used baby blue as well for 3 ribbons!

[@sharonlee2010]

Wow! That’s HUGE!! Thanks for sharing!

[@mariac4602]

Asked for this for Christmas. Can hardly wait to read it. And yes, it's VERY weird to have a Catholic 'secular' interpretation of the Bible.

[@Meteor_pending]

Finally, Catholicism returns to form!

[@AmericanShia786]

Best review of this Study Bible that I have seen yet. The leather edition did not look as good as the hardback addition in the other reviews I have watched, so thanks for confirming my observations about the leather cover. Since this Study Bible has references to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, I wonder if it might supersede The Didache Bible as well.

[@hectorrramosss]

Thank you for weighing in on which version is better between the leather-soft and hardback. That was my only hold up. Still wish it was constructed better considering the size but maybe in the future they beef it up.

[@TheWheelingDragonInn]

the RSV2CE is my preferred translation. When the USCCB was voting to update the translation used in the Liturgy, I was hoping they would have used the RSV2CE instead of the NABRE. before the NABRE is fully intergrated, we're currently using the NAB84

[@toddvoss52]

Yes they could have taken a cue from the Ordinariate

[@TheWheelingDragonInn]

@@toddvoss52 Wish they would have. Most Catholics I know use the RSV2CE as their daily reader and devotional

[@toddvoss52]

@@TheWheelingDragonInnor they could have followed the UK who is switching to the ESV-CE

[@TheWheelingDragonInn]

@ agreed.

[@tomlavelle8340]

Man that’s a big old Bible!

[@Andre_Servetus]

Good review. Non Roman Catholic but catholic in the spirit of truth with the born again church of the spirit. I will purchase this for the notes and commentary apart from the errors we all know.

[@anonimo-um2ng]

Thank you from Lima, Perú for another great review.

[@seanfrancis2]

"...MY mind..." Awesome video though. I hope you do enjoy this Bible. Dr Hahn did a great job. I hope you also have your hands on a Word on Fire Bible from Bishop Robert Barron. It is awesome. I have many Protestant friends who have gotten the Word on Fire Bibles.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

My mind?

[@chameldoesart]

Mine is arriving Christmas Day - fingers crossed!

[@thatcatholicsaintsguy609]

I loved this. Very well done.

[@tillo1981]

No not in our minds, but by straight history and facts!!! 😎

[@kirbysmith4135]

Hi tillo! I hope you enjoy this Bible! 😊

[@tillo1981]

@kirbysmith4135 heyyyyy!!! I don't have it yet, but I do want it. In fact, there are several I want. I'm really wanting the new Great Adventure Bible in the new Premium edition!

[@kirbysmith4135]

@@tillo1981 Maybe Santa??? 🤞

[@tillo1981]

@@kirbysmith4135 yesterday was his feast day by the way!!! 😎 He has an amazing story.

[@kirbysmith4135]

@@tillo1981 I didn't know about the feast day, but I do know a bit of his story.

[@twopintsofmilk]

Great review. God bless

[@Jrce11]

A bit pricey, but I know it’s high quality stuff. I wonder if I should get the old or New Testament to start.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

There isn’t a stand alone Old Testament. It’s the New of the entire.

[@unknown_model]

What is the publication date?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

It’s this year. But it’s currently sold out of early copies. They ship again sometimes in December.

[@nickspitzley8539]

This Presbyterian is really interested in this

[@Nick-w9z]

One correction Tim, second edition does not mean it’s Anglicized. It updated a couple passages like Is 7.14 and got rid of the older English when addressing God, but it’s not Anglicized

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

I realized this. The first edition had an Anglicized version.

[@winters556]

Do you know if this will have more editions with different covers or will it mainly be the bonded leather and the hardcover?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Pretty sure this is it.

[@Dre2Dee2]

They say "don't judge a book by it's cover", but the 2 covers couldn't be more different and REVEALING about the contents The first book has an academic textbook style of cover. No real sanctity, yes there's an icon on the front, not really the focus, merely a nice decoration in recognition of the historical aspects of the book On the ISB, You have the icon of Christ the Teacher: PERFECT for a study bible thematically. It is surrounded by the imagery of the 4 gospels, covered in gold with a simple nobility and grandeur. The faith within the text are on full display on the front. CHEF KISS

[@5150show]

Beautiful

[@fivevs1]

It’s Bibles like this to make me wonder that maybe we shouldn’t try and do Bibles in one volume. Maybe they should be five or six volumes so that each volume is a little bit more manageable.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

It’s a give and take. Advantages and disadvantages to both.

[@dynamic9016]

Thanks much for this video.

[@TheMarioMan247]

in case anyone can answer, Is this worth getting over the Great Adventure Catholic Bible?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Two totally different types of bibles.

[@glennlanham6309]

I like the caption, I have the book and it works your biceps!!!

[@daviddrake8742]

Mine came today. Even though it is BIG I was worried that the text, especially the commentary would be difficult to read because of text size. However, the text is dark and spacing generous, so it is very easy to read. The commentary reads smoothly and is not just chopped up thoughts squeezed together. Sadly I seem to suffer from BAS….Bible acquisition syndrome. This Bible has been around 25 years in the making but it truly started before time began….”In the beginning was the Word…..”

[@mario.baddoura]

thanks for the review!

[@CahokiaOfficial]

What’s the difference between this and red RSV-CE 2 edition?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Full commentary, articles, book intros etc.

[@countryboyred]

Fair and balanced review. Thanks for this.

[@BigStack-vg6ku]

Thanks Tim! You trying to make me a Catholic??

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Absolutely not!

[@missinglink_eth]

I don’t see how anyone can hold to the Sethite view. Seth nor Cain appear in the Hebrew text anywhere. Human (Adam(a)) does along with something non human. The “angelic” view was unanimously held until around 200 AD when gnostic and Jews wanted to deny the divinity of Christ.

[@israelrivera3009]

Totally agree. So the Sethite view is the general interpretation of catholics??

[@missinglink_eth]

@ I guess so. I looked that passage up in another Roman Catholic commentary and it was similar.

[@Sirach144]

Did you say it was sewn binding?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

It does.

[@RICARDOMONTES12]

How does this bible compare to the Revised New Jerusalem Bible?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Probably not at all. Pretty sure that’s a Catholic translation.

[@fre7717]

mine on the way, but it halted at the airport due to the canadian postal workers strike.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Yeah that stinks!

[@crookbrother]

Pretty fair review from a dirty schismatic 😂 that’s a joke, you my brother man thanks for the good review!

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Ha ha. If the shoe fits…

[@daltonburroughs3811]

As a Protestant it's weird to see that there aren't a ton of Catholic study Bibles. Is the Orthodox Church in the same boat?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

I think they are worse off.

[@3ggshe11s]

The Orthodox have almost nothing. The Orthodox Study Bible is about it, and you'll hear lots of Orthodox complaining that it falls short. The lack of Catholic study Bibles is the main reason everyone has been so excited about this new volume. The Navarre Bible exists, but it's a multivolume set that will set you back $400 to $500 for the whole thing. I think this will hit the sweet spot for a lot of Catholics.

[@Neil-g4g]

​@@anickelsworthbiblereviewsCorrect

[@CahokiaOfficial]

We currently only have the OSB

[@ProtestantismLeftBehind]

Are the notes purely Ignatius? Or Roman Catholic notes mixed in?

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Ignatius Press is Roman Catholic.

[@cinnamondan4984]

As a Conservative I tend to side with a lot of its ideas about the authorship of the Biblical books as explained in the NABRE footnotes…but the theology of the NABRE not so much.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Interesting.

[@Tri-tipTim]

Nice review.....

[@joeberta368]

One text living in the past - one living in scholarly reality.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

And one comment loaded with nonsense.

[@Random-ob7dc]

Are you sure it’s anglicised? I have the standard RSV2CE and I’m pretty sure it isn’t.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

It’s possible I confused it with the RSV-CE which is. I’d imagine they would not have “un-Anglicized it though.”

[@Random-ob7dc]

@@anickelsworthbiblereviews To my knowledge, the RSV-CE isn’t anglicised either. It’s a revision of the RSV, which itself is a revision of the ASV, the American Standard Version.

[@NeilTheCatholic]

Where is this Bible printed?

[@3ggshe11s]

India.

[@Neil-g4g]

$60 for a made in India Bible? This is nuts. So they would have sold this for $100 if it was made in the US? The Bible itself is awesome but Catholic publishers should work on their pricing. I have got Protestant colour study Bibles of the same bulk for lesser.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Thanks for answering. I couldn’t remember.

[@Tarken10]

Did it at least come shrink-wrapped? The Bibles are expensive. Such expensive books need to be shrink-wrapped for protection.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

It came in a sleeve.

[@classicalteacher]

"Hail, Mary, full of GRACE"! Not "favored one". They translated it correctly. I'm tired of that purposeful mistranslation to force a wrong theological worldview.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

I don’t think either interpretation lends a problem of theology.

[@3ggshe11s]

I'm a Catholic, and both translations are defensible. I think most of us Catholics just prefer "full of grace" because of the Hail Mary prayer. Plus, that's the way Jerome translated it from Greek to Latin ("gratia plena"), so it holds a revered place of tradition in Catholic thought, to the point where it admittedly sounds wrong to Catholic ears to have the verse translated any other way.

[@classicalteacher]

"Favored" already has a common Greek word. The Greek for "full of grace" also has it's own word which is used to describe Jesus in John 1:14. It is the same root as Luke 1:28 to describe Mary as "full of grace." It is academically dishonest to translate Luke 1:28 as "favored" when in every other use is translated as "full of grace." The theological implications of one being "full of grace" is to be sinless. There is no room for sin. Mary was sinless. Jesus saved her from sin at her conception. That is "the immaculate conception." It is fundamental to understanding orthodox theology. To not believe it is heretical nonsense; it's Liberalism and Modernism.

[@sarahwelsh8157]

@@classicalteacherYES 👏

[@classicalteacher]

Before I converted to Catholicism, one of my undergrad degrees was in Bible at a very anti-Catholic University. This is exactly how we were taught to translate scripture to support a theological worldview - even among different prot denominations. There are so many different translations that subtly change the meaning of a text to support agendas. Even Catholics have a common translation that uses "inclusive" language (a lesbian on the translation team). Purposesful mistranslation a grave error that leads to heresy. It is eisegesis, where one inserts the meanings of a text; rather than exegesis, where one pulls out the meaning. I'm thankful for Scott Hahn's commentary in this edition. I would also suggest The Great Adventure Bible and the Bible Timeline by Jeff Cavins. Father Mike has a Bible in a Year podcast and chart that is well known. I am thankful for the efforts of these Catholics to support Biblical orthodoxy.

[@4everseekingwisdom690]

Fun fact the 4 symbols used for the gospels are in fact the symbols of the 4 fixed zodiac signs

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

Never heard that one before. But I have heard of the Mazzaroth of the Jews.

[@4everseekingwisdom690]

@anickelsworthbiblereviews Mathew An angel is Aquarius Mark: A lion. Is of course Leo Luke: An ox or bull. Is Taurus John: An eagle looks like it's wrong as the 4th fixed is Scorpio but Scorpio in ancient times was also depicted as an eagle.. Same as the 4 living creatures.. it absolutely is symbolic of the zodiac because the zodiac is EXTREMELY important in the mystery tradition of which Christianity is part of

[@liquidnitrogen58]

Look at the explanatory notes for Ephesians 2:8-9. I don’t think any Catholic Study Bible can clearly explain what Eph2:8-9 means. These verses require a longer explanation that might not be able to fit inside a single volume Bible. These are difficult verses that require longer explanation. It’s really difficult to explain Eph2:8-9.

[@RogerBesst]

The Catholic Church has always taught we are saved by Grace!

[@liquidnitrogen58]

@ that one sentence is not enough. We need a more clear explanation.

[@ggarza]

It says: Eph 2:8 grace: The biblical term for (1) God’s favor and (2) God’s supernatural life. The former designates the conditions of its bestowal (a free and undeserved gift, Rom 6:23), and the latter designates the content of the gift we receive (a share in the divine nature, 2 Pet 1:4) (CCC 1996-2003). have been saved: Salvation is here described as a present state resulting from a past action. The preceding context indicates that deliverance from sin and spiritual death is in view (2:1-3). That salvation is not thereby assured but is also a future hope; see note on Rom 5:10. through faith: Faith is instrumental in saving us and uniting us with Christ. In the context of conversion, salvation is conferred through the instrument of Baptism (1 Pet 3:21), and salvation is received through the instrument of faith (Rom 3:24-25). For Paul, belief in Jesus Christ is a divine gift (Phil 1:29) that we exercise when we adhere to God with trust (personal aspect) and assent to the truth he has revealed in the gospel (propositional aspect) (“To believe” has thus a twofold reference: to the person and to the truth: to the truth, by trust in the person who bears witness to it. CCC 177). 2:9 lest any … boast: Because salvation is neither a payment for services rendered nor a personal achievement, there is no room for pride or boasting on our part (1 Cor 4:7).

[@pkmcnett5649]

​@liquidnitrogen58 it is self explanatory.

[@liquidnitrogen58]

@ how can you say that about Ephesians 2:8-9? It’s so hard to understand… what about James 2:14-26? James says faith without works is dead, which sounds opposite of Ephesians2:8-9. This is hard, not easy.

[@JamesSmith-zs8fl]

An over sized Bible deserves an over built cover.

[@Msspmex2012]

I want it in Spanish😊

[@liquidnitrogen58]

I understand the Ignatius Study Bible is a huge Bible with notes and commentary, but I don’t think a single large volume can give enough notes to make the text understandable. If you are looking for good notes, you need a multi-volume Catholic Bible set such as the Navarre Bible or the Sacra Pagina Bible Series by Liturgical Press. I don’t think a single large volume is going to have enough commentary or notes to explain clearly. Look at the explanatory notes for Ephesians 2:8-9 in the Ignatius Study Bible. Even after reading the commentary on Eph2:8-9, we still don’t understand what it means. The commentary is too short to be understandable.

[@HoldFast-r7g]

That's true of all study bibles. They are a starting point. Not everyone has the time and money for a large multi volume commentary, which also have limitations as do even full degrees in philosophy and theology.

[@toddvoss52]

Even Navarre is not enough if you are being that rigorous. But Sacra Pagina is quite an investment. I think there are a couple other multi volumes out there as well.

[@liquidnitrogen58]

@ have you heard of Lapide ????? It’s very traditional

[@stevecochran9078]

Whoof............Beefy.

[@Fasolislithuan]

To say that the cited passages are weak respect the evidence of Purgatory I think is even weaker when I don't hear never any protestant satisfactory explanation of 1 Cor 3:12-15 and its meaning (usually very bizarre and unconvincing explanations) . And moreover when this passage is cited as evidence of a state of purgation in Lactantius, Augustine of Hippo and Origen. The Maccabees passage is so evident that the only answer I hear from protestants is the typical "apocryphal book" but was cited as sacred Scripture in Church documents many centuries before any protestant called it apocryphal... so another preposterous claim (a classical petitio principii phallacy)

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

I always find it fascinating that a Protestant takes time to do what I rarely see Catholics do…review a Bible, and then get hung up on the fact that we disagree.

[@Fasolislithuan]

@anickelsworthbiblereviews Your appraisal doesnt resolve the question why the protestant exegetical approach to the Corinthians passage is so bad, convoluted and acrobatic when the prima facie reading is pretty clear (as testifies some Church Fathers and ancient scriptural exegetes). And also doesnt resolve the serious problem that protestants has with the biblical canon. His rejection of the Maccabees passage is based in the circular argument the book is apocryphal, when the book is cited as Sacred Scriptures one thousand years before protestants removed it from their bibles. Assuming first one things/fact but later dennying because is an inconvenient thing or fact can be dishonest but delete the evidence later and using that to justify arguments looks certainly unpersuasively dishonest.

[@Fasolislithuan]

@@anickelsworthbiblereviews Making assertions has the risk that can be answered. Its a legitime game.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

@Fasolislithuan the Day is hardly an argument for a period of time you got through a purification. Even the RSV-CE recognizes this as judgment day when your works are tested and not a purgatory process. I’m not here to argue in the comments, but you can continue if you like. Have a great day!

[@Fasolislithuan]

@@anickelsworthbiblereviews Church Fathers dont have RSV opinion. My trust is not with a modern LIBERAL bible comment. In fact the consistency of your opinion is not very solid because the same bible youre reviewing (Ignatius) says the contrary and has the same opinion of the Fathers and ancient bible exegetes I mentioned. It dont surprise me because the authors of Ignatius' study are more respectful with the Apostolic Tradition than others like a protestant bible translation-"catolic edition". In fact I have catholic studies in spanish (my native language) that specify the same verses as purgatory evidence in the Church Fathers. The protestant explanations are not convincent at all (in my opinion so bad than John 20:17-20 about the forgive of sins) and they dont have a positive support in Church Fathers.

[@remymccoy6078]

😂😂😂 poor things

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

I guess I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

[@richardfairley9882]

Looks very 'wordy'...

[@diannealice3601]

Too big! Don't really want that big of a book.

[@anickelsworthbiblereviews]

It’s definitely huge.