The iilluminaughtii Situation Just Got Much Worse...

[@iNabber]

Beans

[@Jake_Baz]

On Toast?

[@vuekoh]

ok abuser

[@Milo-it1tf]

Oh god that’s so British

[@PrincessDianaJ]

❤ subscribed to your friend Jake

[@Thunderclone]

I dont speak bo'o'o'wa'uh ​@@Jake_Baz

[@NoxAtlas]

Blair is just like the Black Knight from Monthy Python and the Holy Grail. Even if she loses every single battle, she'll still refuse to admit defeat.

[@Jake_Baz]

Hahahaha what a reference😭

[@KageKobushi]

Just a flesh wound!

[@Milo-it1tf]

She’s also as annoying as the French guy in that movie 😂

[@deltasaves]

@@Milo-it1tf she would say my father smelt of elderberries 😭😭😭😭😭 and for sure call my mom a hamster 😵😵😵😵😵😵😵

[@KirbyIsCute]

"Tis but a scratch." "A scratch?! The whole internet has turned against you!" "No, it hasn't." "Then what's that then!?" "...... I had worse." "You liar!

[@fromage_collage]

As a member of the public, I would like to submit that I am, indeed, interested.

[@Jake_Baz]

You sure? I think this is a private matter…

[@silvertarot25]

Also a member of the public, who didn't know who tf she was til I saw Click's response video & I had just found his channel so I had no idea about Sad Milk. Then I remembered a friend of mine had mentioned something about the Legal Eagle situation. So yeah all of this has been a very public situation from the get go & when it gets traced back to how it was made public - oh look it's all cuz of her.

[@theconqueringram5295]

LegalEagle Editor: "Do you have any advice on how to improve my video editing?" Iilluminaughtii: "I'm about to ruin this man's whole career!" Narrator: "The only career she ruined was her own."

[@Jake_Baz]

She really thought didn't she!

[@valolafson6035]

A thought was definitely had.

[@daofficerofthenoodles7504]

Bro fr F around and saw what happen

[@jacquelinecherry9914]

Why is the narrator Morgan Freeman 😂❤

[@LittleMaitea]

@@jacquelinecherry9914because all good written narrations should be narrated by him

[@ninskdesign]

Even without the Legal Eagle/Sad Milk events, I don’t know why she thinks she wouldn’t have suffered the same fate as Somerton. She was clearly in the crosshairs of Harris when she accused another creator of the behavior he was about to expose her for, as she clearly relied on lifting the work of others to create content. Every win in court is going to equate to more support for the people she is using the legal system to harass. She claimed to be pursuing legal action so that her reputation could be repaired and she has annihilated any possibility of that by continuing on this path. She’s just gained a new reputation that puts her in the same company as figures like Onision and Creepshow Art. Duplicitous, despicable, and absolutely repulsive.

[@justkiddin84]

Right. I will keep supporting Oz until this is done. And I am far from alone. The response he got over Christmas should have opened her eyes, but no-she just keeps living in hate and stupidity.

[@MiaAngridere]

I d honestly never heard of her before this whole thing started. It's nice when people show you who they are before you get invested.

[@sophvic]

Can't wait to see iilluminaughtii's corporate casket episode exposing Blair /j She always came across as pretentious imo, I hope she wins nothing

[@kevinz.9785]

FYI: In US legal terms there is a big difference between 'matter of public concern' and 'public interest' that gets confused in our everyday vernacular. A matter of public concern is used in defamation cases like this, Blair is trying to pull the "I'm not a public person" card to higher the bar for defamation. Oz's legal team will be the ones that need to argue that Blair is a public figure, and it is a matter of public concern through discovery with evidence. Legally, "public interest" is, will the ruling affect the public at large, a group of people or rewrite the law so the public needs to know. So, this is 100% a 'matter of public concern' but NOT at all a case of 'public interest'.

[@kevinz.9785]

I just rewatched MadCatster's video, it seems that Oz's team used 'public interest' for the anti-SLAPP portion because that would have had the potential to change/clarify Colorado's relatively new law compared to California's older and tested anti-SLAPP law. Later they used 'matter of public concern' to counter Blair's claim that she isn't a 'public figure', discovery is going to be interesting for sure.

[@missobvious5436]

thank you for clarifying! I dont know much about law, much less US law as I‘m not from there, and I 100% thought those two things just mean the same thing.

[@ThePastryPrince]

thank you for clarifying this before I did.

[@flandersnatch2285]

As a member of the public, i'm interested. Your turn Mr lawyer man

[@lalalachris]

I appreciate being educated. Thank you.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

I don't think she intended it to go this far. She owes the state of Colorado thousands ON TOP of this lawsuit now. Desperate for cash, I believe Blair thought she could take the house to pay off her debt and scare everyone with the threat of a lawsuit simultaneously. It backfired, but she can't back down or admit failure so she's digging herself a deeper hole just to be right. Given that her channel failed for so long and she had a penchant for frivolous spending, I highly doubt she's as wealthy a woman as she liked to claim. I think financially she may end up ruined as a result of this lawsuit. She hasn't got a Go Fund Me to help her, so I can't see her "winning" in any sense of the word. Edited for typos.

[@digitoki6886]

I don't think she failed, she was one of my favorites before I learned of the hypocrisy

[@danylol772]

@@digitoki6886 she failed at everything miserably, it's a fact wether you want to accept it or not.

[@zeratul____1228]

She might be extorting what little supporter's she has left.

[@VictoriaFire3]

I think that MoistCritical's prediction might be right. That she has a second channel somewhere but with an AI voice so she can continue to make money

[@chaoticinkinc.3145]

I think her own lawyers are egging her on as well, telling her that if they win the case she'll get enough money to pay them back and pay off her debts when really they're just taking her for a ride and squeezing every last penny out of her. Even if she somehow wins, what little money she will get won't be enough to pay off anything, including her lawyer fees.

[@okuraorca]

It's worth mentioning that she took some art of mine from DeviantART, without permission, and used it in a video. Worse yet, claimed it was PETA when she had it in the video and a friend attempted to correct her and was ignored (I have nothing to do with PETA). Never bothered pursuing it as she did still honor the purpose of the image, but it was often a slight irritant of mine that she used without asking for permission and then put up incorrect info about me.

[@InMintCondition13]

That sucks and I can't begin to imagine how frustrating that must have been. I'm sorry it happened to you.

[@SaM-us9gk]

You can still see if you can copyright claim that specific part of the video, if you own the DeviantArt account that has the original image that probably possible. It may be more trouble than it's worth tho

[@kiri92azel]

​@SaM-us9gk woud add to the pile to lafh at tho, IF it worked. 😂

[@dcstiger]

It's common for narcissists to believe that social norms, rules, laws and regulations shouldn't be applied when it comes to their personal behavior and actions. Conversely they will often insist that everybody else strictly adhere to all those types of edicts. Because many narcissists lack self awareness and introspection they don't see the hypocrisy in demanding that the rules should be applied to everybody but themselves.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

They can't be introspective because then they have to admit their wrongs and their egos are too fragile for that. Narcissists always lack self awareness because that's the nature of the problem.

[@SPAnComCat]

@@sourgreendolly7685 Exactly! I was a Former-Narcissist long ago and I can Confirm that this is the Case! Well made!👍

[@rosenrot234]

@@SPAnComCat Former? Like you got therapy? I wasn't aware you could ever end up a former narcissist.

[@sardie34]

​@rosenrot234 my assumption is they had narcissistic behaviour, not Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Two different things that people tend to get confused/think are the same thing

[@SPAnComCat]

@@rosenrot234 Yeah! I got Therapy! And I Understand your Astonishment!

[@stratahawk_1]

The judge is going to get a real education in the KZbin sphere when discovery happens and all the evidence is dropped in his lap.

[@kooriicolada]

I would love to be a fly on the wall for that.

[@stratahawk_1]

@@kooriicolada “This all started with Blair accusing a lawyer of what now?”

[@haph2087]

The point of Anti-SLAPP laws are very simple and strict. -If everything the plaintiff claims was true, would they have a case? -If yes, do nothing, case proceeds. -If not, the case gets dismissed and the defendant doesn't have to do anything except the single motion requesting the anti-SLAPP analysis. The point of anti-SLAPP motions are so that plaintiffs can not generate tons of entirely bogus cases to bury a defendant in legal fees, because it makes it cheap and easy for defendants to resolve purely meritless claims. Regardless of whether the judge understood the nature of KZbin culture doesn't really matter, because the anti-SLAPP laws are *only* about the contents of the plaintiff's claims, and *not* about material facts. Obviously, a lot of the facts of the case are *not* in illuminaughti's favor, but you have to have an actual court case to decide that legally.

[@Non-bimaryGreentea]

This is the literal definition of a downward spiral

[@Jake_Baz]

The only way is downhill! Get on the ride

[@folkloreofbeing]

A narcissistic spiral at that.

[@DakkaScrappa]

nah thats not a downward spiral thats a FLAT SPIN

[@IncineroarBestPokemon]

EmpLemon, get on this

[@The_Slavstralian]

I find the whole " I am going to accuse a copyright lawyer and his team of copyright infringemenr " thing hilarious.

[@DM-kl4em]

Yes! There is also the fact that being a successful KZbinr involves getting millions of people to like you. If you sue anyone, you need to have a VERY good reason for it, because, as in this case, it can make you look like a total jerk.

[@Iansco1]

​@@DM-kl4emhilariously? People love Devon.

[@nondisclosureable]

The court is REQUIRED to assume a certain degree of truth to the claims made by the plaintiff. Ultimately this is a case that's likely to wind up setting precedent. A lot of the 'evidence' legally can't be fully reviewed unless and until the proceedings continue Discovery phase where evidence actually gets brought forward and used. Prior to now the court was mostly looking for both sides to say "I have proof of my claims". We need to go through the steps and procedure to get that evidence entered and then reviewed in court.

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

In other words, the evidence can't be used in full just yet. Hopefully when the evidence is brought into play, things hit the fan hard for Blair.

[@JakShadwin]

Also, the bit about public interest was the correct decision, that term is specifically referring to things that materially affect the public, not that things are interesting to the public.

[@philospher77]

To be fair to the judge, they don’t need to be an expert on anything except the law. Do you think a judge that hears a medical malpractice suit has a medical background? Of course not, that’s what expert witnesses are for. And they are not supposed to consider anything except the documents and arguments that the lawyers make. And they are supposed to lean in the Plaintiffs favor at this stage, because it is better to have very weak cases actually have a chance to be heard than to have them be summarily dismissed. None of the rulings that have been made mean anything more than that the judge thinks that Blair’s lawyer put forward enough facts to require the facts/evidence to be heard in court. And I am pretty sure that when Oz’s lawyer lays out the case and the true timeline, she’s going to be cooked. She should have taken Oz’s offer, but everything from here on out is on her.

[@happyheliovi8496]

they bring in experts for these kinds of cases very often especially if judge or jury require important professional context . at no point does the judge say i dont "think" it works that way

[@brontolope]

Spirits, the poor victims of this woman. I wish she would just leave everyone alone, and stop.

[@Jake_Baz]

So do I but her poor poor ego can’t handle that!!! So she resorts to this shit

[@zeratul____1228]

I don't think she will stop. The only thing that could stop her is by either going to prison, or by becoming a fatality.

[@KlanescoDavila]

pfp checks out

[@jsanchez23]

A little insight to the local legal system, as with damn near everything in Colorado Springs currently, we simply don’t have enough infrastructure. The towns population has quickly grown beyond the infrastructure we have to support it. That accounts for the CSPD, EMS, the court systems and even healthcare beyond the already sorry state it was in. It’s especially interesting in the context of her supposedly removing the whole swatting protections on Oz’s home, as I’ve actually essentially been swatted by someone claiming my gardener was a large black man with a gun. Which was so racist and fucked on so many levels, but CSPD is so behind, that they came out with the riot gear the next day. Which at that point I don’t know what they thought would happen, but if there actually was a threat, it’s too late. Just the other night someone found a wandering toddler in the road and the police took 18 hours to get involved. So I’m not surprised she’s been so easily able to skirt the court systems, as they’re so overworked and the city so underserved. That until this progresses further it’s likely not getting anywhere near the attention it deserves to realize how clear of a SLAPP suit this is and should have already been seen to be. I can guarantee they have not had the time to view any of these videos in full, if hardly at all. Which is why the judge continued to want cited sources, while her amendments never do so. Which seems pretty amateurish on her attorneys side, but the facts also don’t line up with her legal narrative. Not to mention I’m sure her plan is to gas them all out financially as a war of attrition. Tho her financials are also confusing, she must have a bunch of not properly reported assets or she’d be in a better state, maybe borrowing against her net worth without anything liquid, as it’s doesn’t make sense she would be having all these random debts. Like the not paying her property taxes for years, I had actually hypothesized she was planning on letting it go to auction and have someone else pay the property tax and assume ownership at far less than it’s worth. As property values are insane here currently, I’m getting offers around 360k over what my property is realistically worth. But I know people salivate at snatching up properties with unpaid property taxes. She didn’t even owe much originally, just a couple thousand and that’s not bad over two years for Colorado spring’s, but it’s likely majorly ballooned as a result of them not being paid. I know mine is $1200 and it’s a far smaller property. Anyways just figured I’d add a couple of details from the local perspective. Which having lived here my whole life and graduating the same year she did from another local school, it’s kind of weird, as she was kind of ghost to everyone she went to school with from what I can tell. People knew who she was, but she seemed to be pretty conniving back then too and people just steered clear. Think I might have seen her at a football game once, when my cousins played against her school team, but that’s about it.

[@Chillie_Pepper]

In the US anti slap does not mean that you can't sue someone "into the ground" it means you can't sue someone to silence them for trying to tell the truth. So if you start a very expensive, very drawn-out defamation/slander suit, you can be accused of trying to slap down their 1st Amendment rights.

[@Eric-oi5yj]

I find most people talking about the legal issues. In this case, I think that the drama will rule the courtroom. No, the judge is gonna go by the law she may win the court case, and lose in public opinion.

[@haph2087]

SLAPP is an acronym (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation), and while not always about speech, often is. Anti-SLAPP laws are laws that allow the Defendant to request a case to be dismissed if the case cannot serve any purpose other than being a SLAPP (Typically, if the Plaintiffs claims all being true would still not justify a case.)

[@LolaBurford]

The iillumimaughtii drama gets me every time she really doesn’t stop does she😭

[@Jake_Baz]

She won’t give up and I kind’ve respect the grind tbh

[@daofficerofthenoodles7504]

Yee none of this would’ve happened if she just shut her big mouth

[@dsnodgrass4843]

It's her accusers that keep trying. That's why I suspect it's a cult-funded op to take her down, + have a chilling effect on others.

[@beef81263]

​@@dsnodgrass4843what's your point here? She deserves to have everything taken from here because that's what she has tried to do and has been doing to others for years. Don't pin this on her victims.

[@BoredPodcaster]

Sorry, but it seems to me that the judge is either a fan of hers, or has no business arbitrating this case. The judge has given blair more chances than she's deserved to even get the basis of her case into filing. She's had 3 chances to get it right, the last of which was past the deadline given by the court. Now the judge refuses to accept she's a public figure and that this is a matter of public concern/interest. I'm sorry, but being old and ignorant only gets you so far into that. This is outright favoritism in my opinion. OR at the very least, blatant disregard for the facts, OR possibly just total lack of due diligence on the judge's part. In either case, I'm starting to doubt that if this goes to trial, the victims in this case will get the win they not only deserve, but should be getting. Because frankly, this case should have been dismissed three months ago, and the fact that we're seeing this judge move forward, DESPITE clear precedence that it should've been dismissed, tells me this will not be a fair case.

[@SemiIocon]

The judge gave her every possible chance in the book, but that also means that she can't claim to have been mistreated when the case fails. I read that once discovery happens, it should be impossible for her to keep up her narrative and the case will be thrown out from there. We'll see.

[@dg4545]

I am holding out hope that the judge is just being strategic by giving blair so much leniency. As to avoid being accused of unfairness if blair loses the trial. But you never know when a judge chooses to be corrupt.

[@tinde2070]

Not American so can't say anything about their legal system for sure, but I think Oz did say something like it's a requirement for the justice system on their state to give every benefit of the doubt to the one making a legal case, maybe because the courts are kinda operating on the legal fees of claims..

[@WobblesandBean]

He has no business being a judge, period.

[@komodoah]

Guys unfortunately courts are a lot more complex than the opinions of a youtube video essay. There are standards that need to be followed even if it's for someone who is widely disliked on the internet.

[@glubtier]

At this point, I firmly believe that Blair is just going scorched earth right now. Nobody is turning back to her side, if anything, more people are hearing about her BS, and she's unlikely to see any appreciable amount of money at the end of the day. (Even if she wins all her lawsuits, she's probably not going to see much of it.) And all because she thought calling out ***A LAWYER*** for plagiarism was a good idea.

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

A copyright lawyer, no less! Whose whole thing is copyright and patents. Something Blair chose to hunt Legal Eagle for.

[@ThePickledsoul]

Ash makes good, fertile soil to regrow on.

[@Eric-oi5yj]

I have no problem with selling going scorched earth. I’m not saying she’s right and he’s wrong or he’s riding she’s wrong. I just like to fight I don’t care about the individuals.

[@bessieburnet9816]

29:40 That's literally what Oz tried to do at the end of his "Dear iiluminaughtii" video, and the pinned comment from him confirms she rejected it.

[@HarPaelTheMessenger]

I feel like every time I see a video about Triangle it's "the situation got worse."

[@threeraccoonsinatrenchcoat8863]

The loss in quality is cause she's having to do all the work herself. She should team up with ole Alexx lol

[@madalynnmccarron4590]

if/when they get into court and the truth comes out, she's going to pay Oz's legal fees, and thus far, that's over 40k.

[@rebeccaabram2312]

Yup, I fully expect once Discovery is completed then we are going to get a Motion of Summary Judgement from Oz, or a Motion to Dismiss because by then Blaire will have no choice but to pony up her Evidence and we know her case is shit, if she doesn't then her case is over and Oz can countersue for damages if he's feeling vindictive. Irony of Ironies if he's able to put a lien on HER house for HIS legal costs.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

I've heard she's been struggling financially, too.

[@xombecca]

She has really dug in her heels and it's doing her no favors at all. For what? 🤦‍♀️

[@GiiNG3RDiiLLAN]

Please tell me they are counter suing for court costs, defamation, slander, harassment and emotional distress, dont just fight, fight fire with fire and absolutely cripple her.

[@omgits_shawn]

Been following this since Click came out with his response video. She is awful and I hope this goes as quick as possible for Oz and those involved. That being said...glad you're feeling better!

[@mustwereallydothis]

I hate to admit it, but seeing "part 1" added to the title of that video made my entire year. I have been dying to find out what sort of tea Oz has been so very reluctant to spill on our little Blair Witch for two years. The only reason I wanted to see this end prematurely with a settlement was because Oz and his poor partner have clearly had more than enough of her bs.

[@darkstarr984]

I’m curious but absolutely feel awful for Oz. I found him just before all this happened and feel so bad for him! He’s being so gracious while Illuminaughti, who I used to like, has just… imploded. From her ridiculous accusations against Legal Eagle to everything else since.

[@mustwereallydothis]

@darkstarr984 If negative thoughts and emotions directed towards them truly did have a negative effect on people, she would be little more than a quivering puddle of goo by this point.

[@bt4582]

This is so infuriating. IMO the courts are allowing the continued harassment and mental abuse of two innocent guys - Oz and Felix that just want her to leave them alone. Maybe she is somehow paying the judge off? I think there should be an investigation. Either that or the judge should recuse himself/herself since they do not understand anything about what they reading. I do hope the ruling against Felix can be appealed and hope Oz appeals the finding that it was no a SLAPP lawsuit.

[@TBG1]

The judge probably thinks like,, "oh, two big bad men are harassing this poor, poor woman, better be soft on her since men can't be abused by women and blair's clearly the victim in all this!" God, this whole situation makes me so mad

[@bt4582]

@@TBG1 Yes totally. It is so not right. Anyone that does like 5 min of research can understand what is going on here IMO. I have been patiently waiting for the court to dismiss this with prejudice. I am a woman just fyi and hate it when good men or women are taken advantage of and harassed by others using the legal system. In this case, the woman is diabolically evil and the two guys are the nicest IMO. Will keep following this case and hope there is a better outcome in future.

[@sanctuary_polaris]

You have to remember, the courts are not youtube or social media, the judge doesnt sit here and watch hours of youtube content like the rest of us have all he has is the context being fed to him, that is it. Blair & her lawyer have been purposefully vague, in my opinion it is because she hopes Oz, Wonder and Felix can run out of money before discovery cause once it hits discovery blair is screwed. Felix's lawyers kinda failed him in not making the date discrepancies of the NDA like center of their defense. And i believe Oz has mentioned the courts kinda have give plaintiffs the benefit of the doubt that they are telling the truth. While on our end it sucks that these people are being dragged and forced to spend a lot of money, thanks to giving Blair the benefit of the doubt and so much leeway she won't be able to appeal this later when it backfires and claim that the judge played favorites with the defendants and she wasn't treated fairly, ect ect. Better for the judge to give her leeway now then for her to appeal this later and drag everyone through this BS a second time imo causing more stress and costing even more money. This isnt the only example of this either you can see other cases where one side is given a lot of leeway like that Tiktok psychic who defamed that teacher by accusing her of murder, they gave the psychic lots of chances and even allowed her to turn in documents late, the psychic still lost and most likely will be unable to appeal cause the courts gave her plenty of chances to give something and she didn't.

[@TheDr502]

Translation: "How dare this judge actually do his job to interpret the law and legal precedent and then make a ruling based on it. It's not going the way I want it right now!" Seriously, the amount of misinformation about the law on the videos regarding this case is astounding. No one even knows how the case will end yet, but people are practically calling for the judge to be fired.

[@bt4582]

⁠the judge said that this was not public and ruled that Felix violated an NDA a year before he ever started working at Blair’s company. The judge also said Click was a competitor. Do you think that this is not public? Can someone violate an NDA a year before they start to work at a company. Do you think Blair asking Felix to dig up old videos of Click saying the r word had anything to do with company business? Do you think the judge should have granted illuminaughtti a fourth opportunity to amend her complaint and now introduce new accusations of computer fraud. If you agree with all the judge has done then we can agree to disagree. This is so clearly Blair using the legal system to harass and bully three innocent guys and it is painful to see these ridiculous rulings.

[@Anukii]

It’s so sad what these folk have had to endure :/

[@Jake_Baz]

Just because she’s so spiteful! Honestly, it’s disgusting

[@Eric-oi5yj]

Every single one of them put their selves in that position. I don’t care who’s riding along. I just like watching a scorch earth fight. And Oz does not seem to get, that he needs to go scorch at then some.

[@choczynski]

The thing that is extra weird about the non-disclosure agreement ruling is that the supreme Court ruled in the beginning of the year that non-disclosure agreements are not legally binding. So there is no reason the judge should have taken an NDA into account for any of these proceedings.

[@TheDr502]

No, NDAs are legally binding, provided certain conditions are met. The Supreme Court ruled against non-compete clauses, which are completely different. In other words, the judge can factor in NDAs that Oz may have signed, as well as other contracts that he signed while working for Pyramid Entertainment, while making a ruling on this case.

[@notaprinny]

Judges have an insane amount of leeway. Back in the Vic Mignogna case a few years back the judge went "looks like the court is full today, must be a public figure", then you have this one going "500 thousand people stopped paying attention? Not a public figure."

[@TheKitsuneDen]

From what I'm aware of (from listening to Oz [his stuff] and MadCatster[the legal stuff]) Blair is gonna get hit with something hard. Oz hasn't told us what he's making his video about yet, but it's gotta be demolishing. She had the offer to just let it go- drop the legal lawsuit from everyone- but she didn't. This is going to be an interesting summer and then all the whole thing hits her.

[@abfg616]

21:49 I think I understand what the judge is saying in this case. It's a personal issue on a public platform, not a matter of public issue. Like if a newsperson announced on national television that they were going to divorce their wife, the issue is really only between them and their wife, even if the clip gets spread everywhere and a ton of people get interested. A matter of public interest would be something that directly impacts the actual well-being of the general public, like a faulty water system or the dust from a coal mine giving all the workers black lung. Just a matter of confusing legal language, though it does still suck for Oz to be forced to continue down the costly court system.

[@amdza]

As someone who's been lurking on lawtube for years, it's becoming an increasing large problem that these Judges and Lawyers have no functional understanding of the social media and internet economy. Just retire with your piles of money and let the next generations give it a go.

[@stephiechefy]

The judge’s order has “ok, boomer” energy and I’m so sad because I thought we didn’t have to say that anymore. But alas…

[@jslaughterofthesoul4939]

Embarrassing that anybody ever said that

[@jackischannelaboutnothing]

The law doesn't care about your emotions. This comment has "I'm a GenZer that doesn't care about facts" all over it. Learn the LAW.

[@jackischannelaboutnothing]

You also have to understand the judge needs to give her every chance so that this doesn't get overturned in court should she lose and then appeal. She can't have a *legal* leg to stand on.

[@stephiechefy]

@@jackischannelaboutnothing I’m old enough to be flattered when someone thinks I’m younger, lol. “Learn the LAW” is a wild thing to say. First I’ll establish that my comment is a joke, if I was unclear with intent. Second I’ll hope your not bringing “emotion” in just because I’m a lady. Emotion has a great bearing on our justice system because it’s “common law”, a law of the people. Law is not static, often swayed by collective emotion of a community. And it varies every time you cross one of those imaginary boundaries on a map, all the way down to local ordinances. One of the reasons I’m even following this situation is because I’m watching the legal system catch up to the “power of the internet” in real time. Since it takes significantly less money now to “influence” the masses, we’re experiencing some “growing pains” figuring out how certain distinctions are evolving. Will be interesting to see how our legal standards for what “public figures” are evolves. I fully understand the court needs to tighten things up for this particular case, and the plaintiff gets the benefit of its favor for the pre-trial motions. I have a much better grasp on foundational law than I do of making jokes online, I’ll concede that.

[@jackischannelaboutnothing]

@@stephiechefy What exactly is the joke? If you're old, then why are you talking about "boomer energy"? The fact is, everyone in the legal system has to cover their bases and being a boomer has nothing to do with it.

[@BlackghostLT]

I love how blair talks about her other victims as "competing youtubers" as if she wasn't caught suppressing and stealing content from an entire MLM community

[@lucietigger1641]

I originally heard about all of this when (as a subscriber at the time) i watched her 'response video'. Luckily the YT algorithm then suggested related content from creators talking about the Legal Eagle stuff and the creators she was talking about in her video. I listened to it all, considered all the statements and evidence presented. Then immediately went and unsubscribed from Blair, but also subscribed to Click and Oz.... chuckle because her actions actually pointed me towards content and creators I enjoyed more!!!

[@WhtAbtBob10]

It's honestly dumb to think that this whole lawsuit would just be dismissed. This isn't exactly a win for Blair. It's going to trial but now she actually has to prove everything with evidence.

[@StaticCling99]

I think the public interest mentioned does not mean that the public is interested but in the best interest of the public, or for the general well being of the public.

[@kevinz.9785]

In legal terms there is a difference between "matter of public concern" and "public interest" that gets confused. A matter of public concern is used in defamation cases like this, Blair is trying to pull the "I'm not a public person" card to lower the bar for defamation. Oz's legal team will be the ones that need to argue that Blair is a public figure, and it is a matter of public concern through discovery with evidence. The TLDR about legal "public interest" is will the ruling affected the public at large, a group of people or rewrite the law so the public needs to know.

[@garnetice1236]

Blair/Oz "debate" would end up like the Ken Ham / Bill Nye "Debate" With Blair Ham just using it to throw BS amd declare victory. Just like she's doing with her lawsuit.

[@Eric-oi5yj]

I think you have them the other way around. Oz is using the emotion he doesn’t care what the law says. if Blair wins in court, he can spin it anyway you like it’s a win for her. Yeah she’ll have lost the community though

[@Mahaveez]

If there's one mistake Oz Media has made, it's letting his emotions show in the legal-recording video. I don't care _how_ hard it is. You do _not_ let a narcissist know they're getting to you.

[@dukebanerjee4710]

On the other hand, Oz Media can't afford to fight Blair on his own, so he needs to make a human appeal to get the support he needs. It sucks that the American legal system (and healthcare system) needs GoFundMe, but that's just how things are...

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

That is good advice, but from another perspective, I think Blair is going to try to destroy him no matter what he does.

[@CatFish107]

"It rotted me." Is an excellent turn of phrase. First time viewer, and I like what I'm hearing ao far!

[@Jake_Baz]

I hope you enjoyed the video! It definitely did rot me. I’m half the man I was 🤣😭

[@Mady0]

As someone said on a MadCatser video, the fact I am commenting on this show it is a matter of public concern.

[@disgruntleddude6105]

Your microphone looks like an open weed grinder

[@Jake_Baz]

It’s a 2 in 1!

[@toreason8146]

​🤣​@@Jake_Baz

[@teqrevisited]

If only people didn't feel the need to wave around desk microphones

[@Jake_Baz]

@@toreason8146 I’m definitely not lying

[@Jake_Baz]

@@teqrevisited personal preference!

[@roxasdeviluke317]

Her brain is going into overdrive tryng to figure out what angle she can attack from but shes lost many of her resources and she cant be as sneaky anymore with so many eyes on her now

[@kelly90093]

"In the public interest" does not mean "interesting to the public". It means affecting the public.

[@salvadorlloret-farina8767]

In law there is a substantive distinction between: The Public Interest Vs Something in which the public is interested The 1st is about what is in the best interests of the public (legal protections) The second alone isn't enough to ignore/set aside laws protecting privacy - you must prove sufficient reason as to why the legal issues would be harmful to the public if not challenged

[@ZachSeineVideos]

30:05 "A little bit?" Dude, if every time someone makes an understatement, a Understatement-Fairy gets her wings, this fairy got a Zeppelin instead.

[@MrMagicmustafa]

Public interest does not mean that people are generally interested for entertainment value. Public interest means the public would directly benefit from the outcome. For example if someone embezzled tax payer money, the public would be directly interested in the outcome since they are being defrauded. Just being entertained by it is not enough to prove public interest.

[@davidlaki]

It’s just hilarious to me that she chose to pick a legal battle with LEGAL EAGLE. I mean, come on.

[@Brainfryde]

The judge is not "too old to get us kids." These are kids playing at understanding the law and not believing their lawyers. Even the SLAPP element is not understood, despite it being right in the name: Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation. There are standards for what makes a person a Public Figure, and age does not matter; decrying the legal system as being "too old to understand KZbin" is a confession of the commentators being too young or irresponsible to understand their lawyers. Sadly, the law tends to be won by the side who spends wisely and the most, but even anti-SLAPP does not prevent someone with a valid legal stance from suing others, no matter the ethical elements both parties feel. What are those here? I have no idea, but pointing at Blair's bad acts with Legal Eagle have no weight here. If this was against Legal Eagle, then a SLAPP might be valid. In this case, not so much :(

[@roguecthulhu6002]

Airing your dirty laundry in public does not make it "of public interest'.

[@shamalow1819]

When all the evidence is shown in court and this is done, they should 100% counter sue her, they have actual reasons to sue her now

[@Cynikari]

They should change the legal system to where the judge has to look on the internet for any extra information when it comes to these kinds of things because that's where everything will be stored for the most part. So much proof has been shown on here and it needs to be looked at by legal figures.

[@shadowdemon2272]

Defeats the purpose of justice being blind. Frustrating as it is, and as much as I want to see Blair EAT IT 🤬🤬🤬, this is still a horrible idea in general, sorry not sorry...

[@jackischannelaboutnothing]

It will be, in the discovery phase. That's next.

[@LolaBurford]

1:35 the part of the video with no sound honestly🤦‍♀️🤣

[@Jake_Baz]

She couldn't be arse could she, don't blame her lol

[@wideride8320]

All those views were just people going "she really did that shit, huh 😂"

[@Josh-iv2bw]

Refusal to dismiss is not a loss. Its the judge saying "we're gonna look at this and allow the argument to be made." Part of which may be to set precedence. Thats how our judicial system works. It sets precedent (case law) and settles disputes of law (enforcement). Which should be similar to Britain.

[@dustindial9996]

So in the US “public interest” doesn’t mean the public is interested in it, it means it is a matter that effects the public greatly. It impacts their lives. This matter is not of public interest.

[@TrineDaely]

My guess is "not in the public interest" has to do with the case being interpersonal drama and legal definitions of "public interest," in which case he would be correct.

[@Atzy]

Anti-SLAP laws are not to protect defendants from being "sued into the ground", they're to stop entities from avoiding public critique by suing people with ultimately frivolous lawsuits

[@jslaughterofthesoul4939]

A defamation suit is not going to help her, it's just vengeful

[@huntertainment2]

the public interest should be evident from the crowd funding...

[@yetiornot5726]

DAMN, I thought it was bad enough as-is. I really liked her podcasts/videos, too. It was good content to listen while I work. Holy crap.

[@folkloreofbeing]

Turns out it wasn't her content either, but pure thievery.

[@liabowden8526]

Idk how you feel about people reading reddit (entitled people, Nightmare neighbors, Am I The aasshole, tree law, etc) but my personal pics for while I do chores & whatnot are: Mark Narrations, Lost Genre, Ripe, Darkfluff, Oz's Vault and Reddit On Wiki when I run out of those (I'm Very new to them, so tentative to reccommend until I know them better, but they seem cool so far). For D&D/RPG horror stories: Den of the Drake, Critcrab, Crispy's Tavern (and again, Oz's Vault 😅) I like Click, Emna Thorne, Fundie Fridays & Charlotre Dobre, but they draw me to the screen too much to be useful for background.🤷‍♀️💚 Hope that was useful in some way, heh.

[@chelseahill1293]

​@@liabowden8526 UnderSparked is also a good one

[@krisoo6815]

I found her through her anti mlm podcast episodes, but then I listened to her podcast about the Nxivm cult and I was disappointed that it was all regurgitated word for word from other podcasts I’d listened to. Never imagined all of this was happening behind the scenes though!

[@TheDarkLink7]

Blair is too bullheaded that she's gonna go through with the lawsuit and once it's a third or half way done. She's going to instantly regret it with whatever Oz has.

[@NebulousNector]

I have NEVER seen a judge put up with this much bs. Ever. Her attorney must have a good relationship with the judge

[@ShadowLinkxMaster]

There’s gotta be a new name for the type of chasm Illuminaughtti got into. Every week, there’s always a new “It got worse.” 😮

[@Jake_Baz]

she is in the bottom of the pit and she keeps digging down

[@Astr0_Man]

i hope this whole case becomes a learnin point for this judge on influencers bein public figures on similar if not the same standin as our regular, everyday celebrities

[@Sabhoh]

“moral orbiter”😂

[@Jake_Baz]

Unfortunately it’s my accent that causes this mix up. I’ve had it a few times. 😭

[@yami1389]

Funniest thing about it is that the Legal Eagle situation wasn't even a lie, just a giant misunderstanding, but her own ego doomed her entire career

[@zangalus2005]

This is like the exact same description in both title and thumbnails word for word that I've seen about illuminaughtii for the past several months. Its actually hard to believe at this point that shes actually still somehow actively making things worse with a lawyer, unless there are way more lawsuits going on with her than I even realized.

[@FerdinandCesarano]

I've heard a couple of different people express the opinion that it somehow bad that the judge doesn't understand the nature of KZbin. In fact this is a good thing. The ideal for judge is to be is disinterested - and note that disinterested does not mean uninterested; it means without a vested interest. The best chance for that to happen is if the judge has absolutely no knowledge of the circumstances.

[@codedaiki]

I soooo hope Blair would bring this whole sh*t in front of Judge Judy... She would make short work of the pyramid and throw her entire law suit out the window while calling her everything in Judy's vocabulary, including "balony" and the like

[@lawrenceking192]

16:15 - I swear to god, if I hear one more bighead cover this story and start yapping about how the judge doesn't understand the Intenet or KZbin, I'm going to vomit in my laptop. The judge doesn't need to understand anything at this point but the laws of his jurisdiction. When a defendant files a motion to dismiss, he is saying to the judge "don't waste your time, just throw it out now." That's extreme, and he won't do it if there is the slightest chance the suit might win. When the judge considers a motion to dismiss, he first assumes that all factual allegations are true. Given that, he then considers the possible reasons for dismissal, most of which come down to jurisdiction. Assuming that's OK (and I do assume it's OK, because unless Oz's attorney is a complete idiot, it would have been thrown out by now if it wasn't), the remaining issue is failure to state a claim. A claim is stated by identifying a relevant law and its elements, alleging that the defendant's actions or inaction satisfy all of those elements, and assert some harm as a result. If there's not enough information in the suit for the judge to tell that there's a there there, he can give plaintiff another bite at the apple, or two, or three, until he is satisfied that nothing more is forthcoming. If the elements are there, the motion to dismiss fails. If they're not, the motion succeeds, and the case is dismissed. Blair lied? Doesn't matter, truth is for the trial. Another reason for dismissal is the Colorado anti-SLAPP statute, which allows for a special motion to dismiss under different rules for certain cases affecting the public interest. "Public interest" does not refer to an army of ghouls slurping down popcorn and "being interested," it means issues affecting the public, like taxes, land use, corruption, etc. Airing your dirty laundry where everyone can see it doesn't put it in the public interest, it's just embarrassing. This case is not a SLAPP, it's a spat between exhibitionists.

[@philospher77]

Does the anti-SLAPP stuff only apply to the dismissal part of the suit? Or, in other words, if the judge decides as the trial proceeds that the facts support that Blair did a SLAPP suit, does it have any impact at that point?

[@TheSolidMidgetOfficial]

Lmfao. People are making NSFW art of her character 😂

[@heaiser]

In a legal sense, public concern doesn't mean that the public is interested in the topic. It means that the public at large would be harmed if the potentially defamatory information was not made public. In this case the judge got it right.

[@nooneinparticular9879]

Me sees thumbnail and title: how does a shitty situation get worse? Also me at the end of the video: oh...thays how.

[@TheKuptis]

First time finding out about this. Could you please have summarized this case since I'm totally confused. Who is this guy you keep showing that is speaking?

[@kevinz.9785]

Oz is the one speaking, he is being sued by Blair. Internet Anarchist did a video called 'The iiluminaughtii Situation Gets Worse…' 2 weeks ago that sums up the situation in a 16-minute video. Otherwise, the rabbit hole is no joke an hours long docu-series of the situation from over the past year.

[@PinkLuster]

Again, I'm so glad we don't live in the "boring" timeline where it starts and stops with that LegalEagle editing scandal and instead we're in the "batshit crazy" timeline that exposes the horrible person Blair is-- and the judge is also batshit crazy.

[@potatomongrel]

If I had a nickel every time a triangle shaped one eyed character was caught being treacherous I'd have 2 nickels.

[@Crashbarrier09]

US law is a fickle thing, it looks like from what the Judge has said, they want to test whether the whole NDA thing is a lawful complaint.. however if Oz's defense is any good they will demand Blair produces the contract that the other gentleman was under when he committed "the breech".. and when she can't that will settle the matter..

[@ETOMCR]

oh my you actually did follow through and upload - night made 🙌🏻

[@Jake_Baz]

Hahaha HELLO! Transcended tiktok. I am not a liar!!! (Most of the time I always lie about uploads), hope you enjoy!!

[@ETOMCR]

@@Jake_Baz Definitely worth the wait!! Another top notch video as per 🙏🏻

[@danb3064]

This is exactly why I don’t do social media(via:barely minimal). Life, is general, is too short, for this high school b.s.. Hurt feelings and outrage, has no value. This generation needs to accept, if you give sh-t, you will get sh-t. If you don’t contribute anything of value, you are just wasting everybody’s time. What is clear to me, if you do not accept delusional allegations by delusional people, that makes you the enemy. So, I am an enemy. Fine. No value in arguing with delusional/stupid people.

[@steffymuze]

Exactly.

[@katiclyzm]

JAKE BAZ UPLOAD LFG 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Jake_Baz]

NO WAY

[@Torakat]

She absolutely doesn't have a leg to stand with any point of this and even if by some stretch of the imagination she wins any part, she will -never- recover publicly. There is a good point about the judge being a product of a different generation (which one, we won't know), but this will be more frequent when it comes to social media cases. It will just be a thing that the litigants in court will just have to prepare for well; being patient and educating everyone involved with the upmost respect so that cases like these are taken seriously and not cast aside so quickly. Not the first or last time assholes on the internet will take things to court out of pettiness, revenge or money... My hope is that this is most strickly looked at as a case based on business contracts then the defamation of character. It'll be easier for them to pull out contracts, timesheets and anything in writing. As far as losing money with business revenue, a print out of her records will show that easily doesn't add up. We have to trust that any educated judge, regardless of age, will see her bullshit in all of this.

[@Eric-oi5yj]

Are you blind or just stupid? She has two legs, she can very clearly stand on them.

[@NaNNaNNaNNaNNaN]

​@@Eric-oi5yjVery bad joke. Please go back to the joke university and finish your education.

[@kieramaccourt8717]

Beans OK, I'm a little defensive here about you using age to say that's why the judge got it wrong. It's not age related. People over 50 can understand and use technology 😁Most of us were around when it was invented, grew up with it getting better and better, and have a handle on what's going on. Please don't see this as an "they don't get it because they're old!" thing. It a step in the legal process that has to be followed before discovery. In the US, the definition of Public Interest in legal use is : the legal term that refers to the welfare of the public as a whole, as opposed to the interests of a private individual or company. It doesn't mean how interesting things are to the public. That helps a little in understanding part of that ruling. This case may become a watershed case regarding how things like this shake out in the future. Big channels/influencers may target smaller ones doing things they don't like by taking them to court (if Blair wins) and shutting them down OUTSIDE of KZbin. I think we can all see why this case might set a precedent in the future.

[@mosessupposes2571]

The cat fights are more interesting than the stories the people tell.

[@SirAwesomeReject]

What is your opinion on the allegations being made against your associates? I’m just curious as to it since I recently started watching your content but I’ve followed a lot of people around your circle like iNabber and ImAlex as well as others.

[@Jake_Baz]

Hey, I have already responded to these on my Instagram. You can find my response on Reddit threads or Twitter I believe by searching my name. Obviously I am devastated this has happened and all my support has and will be with Alice. I was lied to in the worst way and it’s a horrible situation. It’s all about making sure Alice is okay.

[@1-eye-willy]

​@@Jake_Baz you dont have to speak on this human garbage fire situation because you arent responsible for other peoples actions

[@Jake_Baz]

@@1-eye-willy Thank you, unfortunately I was friends with Alex though. I'm just so hurt by it all. I won't be talking about it for the foreseeable. it's messy as it is. All the attention is getting away from what actually happened.

[@BowsettesFury]

Was way ahead of the curve with this one. Stopped watching her about seven years ago now. Something always felt off about her vids then I lost interest. Didn’t even realize she was still uploading until she threw shade 😂

[@S97526]

My ex’s wife did this to me just constantly taking me to court again and again for some crap she made up and it is without a doubt the most stressful thing I’ve ever experienced! Even if you know you’ve done nothing wrong and have proof that you didn’t do any of it and know the cases will be thrown out it’s the repeated not knowing if one judge will believe the other person and wondering when the next thing is gonna hit you

[@primrose6794]

You always hate finding out that someone you enjoyed watching is like this behind the scenes. I used to put her videos on while playing different games or doing other task.

[@therightfielder1]

I completely forgot about that channel. Watched it for a while to stop showing up. So thank you youtube algorithms for bringing me here so I know why now.

[@hanabanana8127]

Oh man it's good to have you back from the covid trenches 💕✨

[@apackofhoboes]

Every time I see a video titled "The illuminaughtii Situation Gets Worse", I am just sitting there saying, "How? How can this get worse?!"

[@mousemd]

I forgot about the thing with Legal Eagle. The last video I viewed I made a comment that she lost me when she came against Bailey. Bailey, I think, was a little scared for a little while. She said something on only one of her videos. I think Sarian has a lot of KZbin friends

[@AthenaCrete]

Blair is the mean girl who peaked in high school and strives every day of her adult life to recapture that

[@Lord3nder]

She's going to sue meatcanyon for stealing her look...

[@hermeticxhaote4723]

This has been an AMAZING fall from grace, even by internet standards!! When I first discovered her channel I thought the content was compelling and fantastic. Welp, nope.

[@candace4339]

Not sure how Blair thought this was ever going to look good for her

[@DakotaRileyMedia]

It’s pretty sad what has happened to Iilluminaughtii. I used to like Blair’s videos. I wasn’t a fan, I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch her content, but if it showed up on my feed I would give her videos a watch. Going after a lawyer though? Wow, that was a very dumb decision, and it’s obvious why it started her downfall. You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain…