The Immortality Tech Coveted By Palpatine

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The Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium was an Empire of Dinosaurs with some strange tech called entchment, which Palpatine wanted and which may have held the secret to immortality.
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@mitwhitgaming7722 4 ай бұрын

Reading the Darth Bane trilogy, you realize how twisted Palpatine's plans were- even by Sith standards. He was perfectly willing to live forever with Vader as his loyal lap dog, rather than ever letting Vader surpass him as the Rule of Two intended.

@SarastistheSerpent 4 ай бұрын

Well also keep in mind that Darth Sidious viewed himself as the Sith’ari, and Darth Plagueis literally trained him under the precept that the Rule of Two had been abolished, at least in legends. In the Plagueis novel, one of the first things Darth Plagueis teaches him is that the Banite Sith Order and Doctrine has been superseded by their fulfillment of the Grand Imperative. It’s basically the only reason why Sidious ever decides to be open about his training of Darth Maul. Had Plagueis not condemned the rule of two as an anachronism, he never would’ve allowed Sidious to take on Maul as an apprentice, although the extent to which Sidious divulged the true nature of his partnership with Maul is left vague, as it’s clear he definitely trained Darth Maul as a full Sith Lord with full rank and entitlement, and refers to him as such in private, though to Plagueis always referenced him as a mere assassin and myrmidon. So legends Sidious definitely considered the rule of 2 completely superseded and of no consequence. It was an old doctrine that had no bearing on his Sith order.

@Theology.101 4 ай бұрын

My favorite part of Star Wars is that one group/person would have the exact solution to someone else’s huge major problem and vice versa - and neither side takes advantage of this because they either are too convinced of their own superiority or straight up didnt know

@Not-Ap 4 ай бұрын

This species was always so creepy to me. The Truce at Bakura was a interesting story. I was never put off by how they looked as to me they were no more creepy than a Trandoshan or a Barbel both of which were just as ferocious as a Ssi-Ruvi. What creeped me out the most was this tech.... What possessed them to go down this particular technological route and more importantly... why?? There must be far easier ways to generate power or at least that was my impression when reading the book.

@demi-femme4821 4 ай бұрын

It's probably derived from Rakatan force-powered tech, mixed in with the same tech used for Rakatan Mind Prisons for longevity. It would explain why Force-sensitives make better batteries than other organics.

@Not-Ap 4 ай бұрын

@@demi-femme4821That's terrifying and scary that even after thousands of years people in the Star Wars galaxy were still trying resurrect the tech of that horrorific empire. Even though technically when the book was written they didn't exist it makes sense. Spirit devouring dinosaur people were nightmare fuel as a kid. As if being eaten was bad enough.

@krispalermo8133 4 ай бұрын

@@Not-Ap AD&D2ndE, Complete book of Humanoids. Lizardmen that were necromancers using Vampire Touch on their victims. Then flip it over to WEG west end games Star Wars.

@ChrisVillagomez 4 ай бұрын

I almost wonder if they were a Rakatan slave race like the proto-Tuskens and Jawas on Tatooine, entechment just seems way too cruel, barbaric, and similar to be unrelated to the straight-up proto-Sith Dark Side experiments of the Rakatan Infinite Empire

@kR-qj7rw 4 ай бұрын

@@demi-femme4821 i honestly like more the idea that the Ssi ruk and others liek the kiliks had no influence on rakata orother old main galaxy stuff for 2 main reasons one I hate them and the concept and how everything has to be connected and 2 I love how much like the vong but not as edgy they are completely alien yet came at a similar tech level but with a unknown weird path makes them more fun than the other 99% of species

@grandadmiralzaarin4962 4 ай бұрын

The implications are quite fascinating, imagine it, cloning beings en masse, then transferring their essence into HRD bodies, Droid fighters and capital ships for an immortal Iron Army. A true fusion of man and machine.

@violetlight1548 4 ай бұрын

I'm honestly surprised the Yuuzhan Vong would bother with sneaky destabilization in the Ssi'ruuvi's case. You would think entechment -- literally discarding the organic for the hated technological -- would have sent them into a religious fury at the blasphemy of it, and they would have just wiped the Ssi'ruuvi from the face of the Galaxy for it, like they did to so many other species. I had completely forgotten they were even mentioned in NJO at all, and had just assumed they ended up on the "Vong wiped them out" list like so many other former antagonists in the Legends books. Looks like I'll have to modify my fanfic, where I was planning on the Empire of the Hand shooing them away from Chiss Ascendency space and following them to Lwhekk, only to find the Ssi'ruuk's homework as an early casualty of the Vong. Is Lwhekk itself mentioned in NJO? If it isn't I suppose I could still go with that idea.

@DarkVaati13 4 ай бұрын

Yeah that part was a bit hard to believe. Also the description of the Ssi-Ruu revealing to actually be a Yuuzhan Vong wearing an ooglith masquers was absolutely ridiculous and made me laugh as I imagined Yuuzhan Vong warriors being all hunched over and bent like a dinosaur for weeks. I really wish the story ended up being like a three way battle between the Bakurans/Galactic Alliance, Yuuzhan Vong, and Ssi-ruu. Lwhekk isn't really mentioned, but it is on like the complete opposite side of the Unknown Regions as Helska IV so it's not like the Yuuzhan Vong would have been able to easily get there (especially since travel in the Unknown Regions was really hard).

@violetlight1548 4 ай бұрын

@@DarkVaati13 one of the ideas for my fics is that the Vong actually *started* their invasion shortly after Endor, at Lhwekk. But when the Empire of the Hand (personally led by Thrawn at the time) responded by wiping the planet from the face of the Galaxy, they got the message "maybe this isn't the best place to start", and spent another decade and a bit swinging all the way around the Galactic Rim, looking for a new "Vector Prime".

@ZKP314 4 ай бұрын

@@violetlight1548 …so basically the “Truce at Bakura” scenario from Age of Legends, but with the invasion mechanic almost immediately turned on?

@sulljoh1 4 ай бұрын

That fact that they look like Velociraptors from Jurassic Park broke my immersion That's too damn goofy

@kR-qj7rw 4 ай бұрын

thats just how raptors looked in the 90s but really thats where you draw the line? id argue chewie is far more goofy ass looking and that thing has been around since day one

@ChrisVillagomez 4 ай бұрын

I knew that the Vong had had someone implanted in a government in the Unknown Regions or close area but I didn't know it was the Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium, I actually used to think it was a Duskhan League member, thanks Corey! 👍

@keelhaulsthingsthatdontmatter 4 ай бұрын

Nichos Marr's story was weird in that it came out of nowhere kind of, but I think the implication was that it wasn't "really" Nichos, it was just an AI meant to be Nichos, but the "real" Nichos was dead by that time. It wasn't meant to be sinister or anything, just a sad, empty existence, especially since his love (and creator) was in denial about the whole thing, while Nichos' AI was surprisingly willing to accept that the true Nichos was dead. I think it was meant to be a sort of choppy story about acceptance and death more than anything else. That's if I'm remembering CotC correctly, anyway.

@amarured 4 ай бұрын

Got me in the first 30 seconds, not gonna lie... xD But as soon as I heard ssiruuv I was like: Oh no! Oh No No No!!

@DarkVaati13 4 ай бұрын

I love the idea of a Truce at Bakura sequel/follow up, but the fact that it's wedged this late into NJO made the story really feel like filler and I also thought it wasn't the best.

@michaelandreipalon359 4 ай бұрын

Better this than none at all, and it beats the Denning-verse and a lotta Disney Alt-universe stuff.

@thepredatorlovesyou927 4 ай бұрын

The prophesied giant non binary rainbow dinosaur who makes all the rules

@antonisauren8998 4 ай бұрын

SW wokeness peaked in 2003. Disney is nowhere near. :P

@lordatom905 4 ай бұрын

Star Wars fnaf technology

@nuclearsimian3281 3 ай бұрын

I was always a fond of the Ssi-ruu, but the part that held me back from really admiring them was the bit of their religion that forbade them from dying away from their homeworld. That to me, and their very real fear of losing their soul if they were to die away from a consecrated world, made me lose any real fear of them becoming a real threat due to that. There was no way in my mind that they could become a real conqueror race like the other reptilian races that had done so in the past for SW. They would never be able to handle a real war when it would inevitably come to them, with their leadership that unable to make the risks needed to become a true force in the galaxy to be reckoned with. Honestly, the most disturbing part of the Truce at Bakura to me was the parasites that Luke had to deal with towards the end, the lungworms were horrifying. Nevermind the entechment, him and Gaeriel being infected by those things was the most traumatizing part of that book when I read it at the age I did. That made me keep thinking about it for a long time, especially with how descriptive the author got with it.

@wedgeantillies66 4 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the emperors attempt to gain better one man shielded fighters for his navy in return for giving the lizards, a massive hail of prisoners in return. Blew up in his empires face post endor.

@s7robin105 4 ай бұрын

"Old Star Wars lore used to be a serious and smart before Disney took over" >The Space Dinosaurs who steal life energy to power their machines

@michaelandreipalon359 4 ай бұрын

At least the space dinos have fearmongering aspects especially in a Yuuzhan Vong foreshadowing sense. What does the Grysk have that makes them credible and memorable threats to the Galaxy Far, Far Away...

@kR-qj7rw 4 ай бұрын

people who think legends was a one thing just to 'um achualle it was better than now'' dont know its like 6 eras of canon by the sheer time and author numbers the worse pasrt is the legends think that i love like the ssi ruvi never got explored but the mandos, old republic and the million clones? oh those got every last bit of details mind you this is before the sell out

@JustinSmith-ug9wm 4 ай бұрын

Creepy stuff!

@michaelandreipalon359 4 ай бұрын

Immortality is as usual overrated. What anyone would seek instead would be very long life (elves nail that aspect in places like Middle-earth), if not a kind of immortality where one can consciously choose when to end things (see Baccano). And even then, Palpatine seems to have been forgotten after a few generations without his machinations. Ah, I still remember that time Lex Luthor in the DC Animated Universe remarked on that very outcome. Edit: And then there's interesting perspectives on legacied immortality in stuff like Babylon 5's "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars"... Star Wars needs to make a longrunning tale based on that.