The “Impossible” Conversation About Guns In America - Between The Scenes | The Daily Show

[@adamkoepke1366]

I think we as a country have gotten our priorities so out of sync these past few years. We want to look at problems as though they’re democrat or Republican problems. We want to be quick to point the finger of blame and say haha, before we realize that these problems effect everyone in this country, not just one side or the other. The saying “a country divided amongst itself cannot stand” is holding very true for us right now. I have never seen a time in my life where so many relied on their political party for their identity. Gun culture, along with so many other things in this country need to have a major narrative shift. People need to stop looking at guns as a means of killing others. We need to stop looking at our political system as only a way to stick it to the other side. I think we can all agree that things not getting done in our political system has become common. But if we keep up like this, we’re always going to be in a stalemate with whichever side is in power and that will have major repercussions for everyone. Let’s start working together people and realize our problems and actually solve them.

[@devastatinglogic6252]

Hi Adam, One reason why people don't start working together is because there is no shortage of disagreement about what "our problems" actually are, to say nothing of what "our solutions" might even be. A person isn't likely to invest the effort to work, together or individually, on a proposed idea that (s)he disagrees with. I don't see how such disagreements are avoidable, on the issue of guns or on any other issue. You use terms such as "divided", "blame", "stick it", and "stalemate", however, so is there a way to show tolerance for an incalculable number of disagreements without creating, say, division? At what point, would you say, does disagreement NECESSARILY become division? I find nothing wrong with mere disagreement, I even celebrate the freedom to disagree -- not that you don't. You seem bothered by division though, so at what point of escalation does a disagreement begin to bother you?

[@immanuela209]

@@devastatinglogic6252 I know it wasn’t directed towards me, but for me personally, it’s when said disagreement leads to no sort of compromise being achieved for either side’s issues. It means nothing to have a discussion if no sort of meaningful change comes out of it.

[@devastatinglogic6252]

@@immanuela209 Yeah, not bad, I didn't think of that one. Thanks for replying. Let me think..... I'll get back to you.

[@pjschuster61]

@@devastatinglogic6252 I heard his point pretty clearly. When civil disagreement becomes uncivilized & demonization of “the other” creeps in & each side becomes so committed to their idea of what the solutions are that NOTHING gets done….to the detriment of us all. That is the situation that we are living in now.

[@lija30]

I know this is about guns but he made me rethink my weight loss journey

[@flone9872]

It is a similar point he was making. But a worse scenario is if your trainer or friends that you listen to had a bet with someone you will not lose certain weights. Do you think you can successfully lose weight?

[@wickedeye00]

Perfect connection! You just made me think of the same with my own weight issues... Step by step

[@ishnifusmeadle]

Yeah he actually helped with my weightloss. The fact he was able to still think as he does while the facts oppose his views on just about every level made me nauseated and I threw up. Thanks Trevor!

[@lija30]

@@flone9872 I'm referring to when he said, it is the combination of steps that help you get in shape. Not just eating right or working out alone will do the trick. Even though I know this, it feels different coming from Trevor. So I'm going to do this again. Thanks, everyone for your support. I can't tell if you guys are being mean or supportive. Guess, it depends on what time of day you responded to my comment. People leave bad comments usually before breakfast.

[@flone9872]

@@lija30 like you said it is about gun control. My comment was referring to if a politician BS so much to pretend they care. But behind our back, they will do everything to against the changes that are urgently needed because they are the Rats in our kitchen. Wish your weight control successfully.

[@elecbass100]

Imagine fighting for something you will not necessarily benefit from, but future generations will. Imagine that.

[@givemethemusicd]

Fun fact...in our lifetimes in the US, we all have a 1 in 10 million chance of dying in a mass shooting, and a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car crash. This dude is a propagandist robot.

[@joncook6167]

Imagine having a TV show/all his resources yet not even knowing the simple fact that actually handguns have killed more people in mass shootings

[@jimschleich8753]

"Hope without action is disappointment deferred." --Bill Willingham

[@paulroland5053]

Great quote

[@jimschleich8753]

@@paulroland5053 it's from his comic book series "Fables" which is top notch reading that doesn't require any knowledge of comics or any super heroes, but knowledge of the standard fairy tales does.

[@muhammadabbas3428]

@@jimschleich8753 Excellent Quote

[@dinglepants]

Also from Bill Willingham: "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do."

[@muhammadabbas3428]

@@dinglepants I could not understand. Would you explain this Quote

[@emmanuelweinman9673]

“This is the one subject people wanna throw their hands up” 😏 I see what you did there.

[@mahaffer71]

(Response To Trevor Noah's The “Impossible” Conversation About Guns In America) by Colion Noir

[@sftita]

@@mahaffer71 exactly. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@funguy9087]

Hey Trevor, you have to have Colion Noir on your show in order to have this impossible conversion.

[@gtdcoder]

Colin Noir will just keep repeating the same talking-points without hearing a single thing that Trevor says.

[@DaedricKnight1]

@@gtdcoder that's such a non-argument. He would give valid points, Trevor Noah wouldn't be able to answer it without leading to "ban all guns" and Colion would have to repeat the question because Trevor's point of view is flawed.

[@JW-cp5hw]

@@gtdcoder Ahhh, just like Trevor, saying something without having facts or any knowledge on the topic. It's a shame you probably support people trying to take away rights.

[@gtdcoder]

@@DaedricKnight1 Just watch Colion's videos. All he ever says is nonsense...we need guns because government is bad. He never even acknowledges the problem of too many guns in the wrong hands. Trevor wants to see no more children murdered in classrooms. Colion only cares about himself and his gun toys.

[@gtdcoder]

@@JW-cp5hw Not all people should have guns. Not all guns should be legal. Yet way too many bad guys have military guns. What do you or Colion want to do about that? NOTHING. You just want to see more children slaughtered in classrooms while you play with your guns.

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

Speaking of cars, when seat belts were invented there were people protesting their freedom. because of course there were

[@Bagledog5000]

Well that didn't come along until mandatory seatbelt laws (pushed by insurance companies to help lower payouts) came into effect, but yes much whining about "rights" was done.

[@raymonds7492]

There was propaganda saying that if the slaves were freed they’d take our jobs. It’s funny how long they’ve been using the same arguments.

[@Adrian2140]

@@Bagledog5000 So what you're saying is we have to make it more profitable for insurance companies to lobby for gun laws? You might be on to something there!

[@miimo_channel]

youre joking right.. people protested seatbelts? what, did they say that it’s their right to go flying out of the windshield when they crash?? next thing you’ll say is that people were against airbags 😂

[@raymonds7492]

@@miimo_channel Many people are against requiring motorcycle helmets.

[@Yayosanni]

“One day you succeed, or die of old age” Trevor Noah.

[@lovel7838]

We knew it's finally here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvRe6SNfs98bJI..

[@abhishekori]

We need a T shirt with this line :D

[@wordforger]

lol. Ah, but if you die of old age, chances are that you passed the torch to someone who carries on the fight for you. Some things take multiple generations to fix. But with each successive generation, the more young people you can inspire, the more they inspire in their turn, until finally the change happens because the need is too great and trying to stop it would be as impossible as stopping the tide.

[@ianmiller6040]

I read this right as he said that. Funny but true. Use your time wisely and do something with it.

[@ranaway9307]

And that idiots statement means what ?? NOTHING !!!

[@libbiey-n7r]

I love that he articulates the most complicated issues at such a basic level of understanding for all. We all have to keep pushing because that's what hope is

[@cptthrawn1841]

Lol he's not articulating things and making them simple. He's manipulating things to make it APPEAR like he's right and it's simple. So you don't think to disagree.

[@Leonaza7]

The saddest thing is that nothing will change and more people will die. The fact an 18-year-old civilian could buy freaking TACTICAL gear...but he can’t buy a drink until he’s 21. 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@shoutenry]

he couldn't legally buy a handgun in texas, but he could buy armor and an assault rifle.

[@lovel7838]

We knew it's finally here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvRe6SNfs98bJKd

[@lovel7838]

We knew it's finally here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvRe6SNfs98bJI

[@aviralgupta393]

I think you need to lower the age bar for owning any type of gun. I think allow (give it for free) every high school student to have one. I think it will be a fun little experiment. Either there would a decrease in gun violence immediately or after sometime probably OR There should really be a Purge Day in America. It would be awesome (in the awe sense of the word and not the excited one people use nowadays).

[@tinaperez7393]

People are saying start with that - change it to 21.

[@victorpradha9946]

One of the most intelligent discussions about gun violence out there. AND he calls out the hypocrisy of those who are quick to say build a wall (that will cost billions of dollars) to stop immigrants who are crossing over to escape violence and brutality at the hands of drug gangs and corrupt local governments (sometimes pointing the individual instances of a violent illegal immigrant who harmed an innocent), but fall silent about doing ANYTHING when it comes to endless gun violence claiming the lives of so many innocents.

[@StefanC123]

The guns of those "drug gangs" are also from USA. They are not just arming wrong and far too many people in their own country. People smuggle guns from America to Mexico. The gun problem influences far more than just "innocent people" in USA.

[@sonnyfong9462]

The GOP are not pro life. They are pro letting the weak and vulnerable dies, pro imposing their beliefs on others, and pro spreading lies and hatred.

[@garysmokesmeat]

Should Mexican citizens living in Mexico be allowed to own large powerful assault rifles?

[@jocampbell523]

You are sooo wise......heyyy, want to run for office??!!??

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

@@garysmokesmeat we are not in control of Mexico. Tend to your own pots.

[@richbrass12]

Trevor has truly made an indelible impression on me when it comes to how to clearly communicate your point. I love the way this man's mind works

[@monacan9]

Indeed, Trevor Noah is very compassionate, well-spoken/articulate, as well highly intelligent. Thus, his emotional intelligence, especially, seeps through his eloquent words and actions. I have the deepest respect and admiration for Trevor’s wonderful qualities and his story (life journey). In kindness- 🙏🙏🙏

[@ADarkRogue]

Write yourself a script or have others write it for you & read from a teleprompter... You'll do just as well.

[@KG-th3cr]

Right. A guy who knows nothing about firearms and has probably never even held one or fired one in his life. A guy who comes from one of the worst places for crime in the world. One of the places where citizens have nearly zero rights to protect themselves from the corrupt government or roving gangs. He's such a great example, huh?

[@Kaiserland111]

@@LostinMIA Colion Noir's mind works much more impressively than Trevor Noah's, I think they'll find.

[@silvermediastudio]

So.... the take away you got is... make up false situations, blame inanimate objects, and propose nonsense that actually exposes that your opponents are correct, while blaming them for the problems? Cool.

[@dbillett1]

Brilliantly stated. I grew up with in a family where shooting recreationally was normal. Going hunting was normal. But also respecting the power of the rifle in your hands and obeying safety rules was paramount above everything. I have never understood why there is even a discussion around trying to make sure the wrong people can't buy guns. Of course we should prevent the wrong people from buying guns. Of course we should put age limits and proper training requirements in place on all guns and they should be even stricter on guns that are being used in mass shootings. We should be willing to try whatever we have to in order at stop the next school shooting. And we shouldn't be afraid to make mistakes. If something we do doesn't work as intended, we can improve it or undo it completely.

[@tororojoh8439]

How about instead of sending 40Billion to Ukraine, we provided those 40B for school safety. But oh right, Biden wasn’t concerned about it. *here, thought you might want to know more about the issue* kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@Freewilly2000]

@@thinkharder9332 it don’t matter how many laws are in place or how many bans are out their it won’t make one bit of a difference if you don’t lock up the people that are breaking the laws in the first place. That’s like running and lifting weights if you don’t diet right you are wasting your time

[@DoraTheMFDestroya]

Well, seeing as you already have age limits... And required training for any licenses involving guns... And the protected right for those considered a able bodied militia to keep and bare arms... Able bodied being any healthy civilian between 18 and ~50...

[@sshad9431]

@@DoraTheMFDestroya So what is the solution??

[@givemethemusicd]

Fun fact...in our lifetimes in the US, we all have a 1 in 10 million chance of dying in a mass shooting, and a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car crash. This dude is a propagandist robot.

[@Leonaza7]

If only gun control had the attention that taking away women’s rights did.

[@tinaperez7393]

Uh, it does. And both have attention. Multiple topics can have attention at the same time. And it's not like even women's rights - I mean human rights - have even maintained their needed ground lately. Including the human right to not live in fear like from gun violence.

[@CharleyMK9867]

@@tinaperez7393 the fact that you changed woman's rights to humans rights gives me the opinion you don't understand what women are going threw at all.

[@TheN0odles]

@@CharleyMK9867 Feminazi alert. Don't dismiss human rights, your rights are not superior.

[@midknight]

Republicans prefer guns and bullets to living children

[@ntony6033]

Hey Friend you seems to look familiar to me, where are you connecting from?

[@miricori]

"You have to keep bothering". - loved this.

[@diamondxdragons]

We'll see how far you get without that armed security.

[@evelyndominguez4757]

Absolutely correct. Start somewhere.

[@andrewtucker7990]

I don’t know a single gun owner that says, “Yea, just ban these guns” “It’ll be alright”.

[@jerrythekazzyy]

Oh but I’m sure Trevor does. He’s on tv so he must be telling the truth....

[@andrewtucker7990]

@@jerrythekazzyy gotta be. It’s illegal to lie on TV or the internet.

[@silvermediastudio]

Bingo. Gaslighting the people in the middle.

[@Qtrainer]

It's almost like someone out there is making money off the sale of these guns...

[@lauragasque4292]

The same people that sell those weapons to the mexican drug cartels to keep selling drugs to the American drug users.

[@eliassalcedo5229]

A check from the NRA is real and the ranking is what drives up the rewards.

[@rolltide5059]

Amazing how every time a Democrat is in office, gun sells go thru the roof. I’d love a peek at their portfolios.

[@molly-gh4we]

Better NRA grade= more money from donations-donors who make zillions from lax gun laws.

[@ADarkRogue]

Just like this show makes money.... you're starting to catch on... Trevor has a script & a teleprompter...He's an ACTOR from South Africa... What's really causing all of the problems....Criminals & mentally unstable people.... Guns...knives...hammers....cars.... all used to hurt people... used by who?... Criminals & mentally unstable people.

[@polaromonas]

Politicians who said there’s nothing we could’ve done should turn in their badge and quit. Unless they are ok with these daily slaughters.

[@timothyavendt677]

"Shout out to the Americans applauding Ukrainian people for picking up select fire guns to fight tyranny at the same time demanding gun control in their country. You guys are the real MVP" -A wise Man

[@GawgaCracka]

Hear Hear....they don't even realize how brainwashed they are.

[@truebrew3498]

So its ok to defend a foreign nation, but you shouldn't be able to defend yourself at home?. That makes no sense at all.

[@davidc3943]

They didn’t pick up any guns. Biden shipped them $40 billion of US guns and ammo.

[@timothyavendt677]

@@truebrew3498 Theirs plenty Ukrainians begging for some more rifles and ammunition. Imagine if 20 percent of the population already had a rifle before the war and a few bricks of ammo. That would have helped big time

[@shaneb5284]

Biden: small arms are no use vs government forces. Biden: sends 5k rifles, 1k pistols and 20m rounds of small arms ammo to Ukraine.

[@JammastaJ23]

You're making a very faulty assumption that all Americans are smart and rational. A lot of people are neither.

[@dayaaron87]

And you are one of them

[@immanuela209]

@@dayaaron87 Aren’t you too then?

[@dayaaron87]

@@immanuela209 nope not at all. I am very smart and think rational. You should try it some time

[@materialnothing2742]

@@dayaaron87 You definitely aren't.

[@dayaaron87]

@@materialnothing2742 then prove it??? Oh I guess you can't because you don't base things on fact only emotions. Debate me, I dare you?,?

[@sjchevalier07]

Unfortunately this country has a lot of people who cherish guns more than they do people.

[@jimschleich8753]

They care more about guns than people they don't know.

[@aniketk7401]

And that's why there are more guns than people in the US.

[@marryellenmonahan5585]

And their gun $$$

[@Oneness100]

Many of them are ex-military which is where they get brainwashed into thinking they NEED a gun. And of course, society in general due to movies and TV shows has reinforced it because having AR-15 style weapons is glamorous and seen as a ego boost. My father owned guns, but he only used them at a gun range, but he had the exact same weapon he used in WWII because he had been brainwashed into thinking he NEEDED it.. His home was burglarized at least once, but since no one was home, those guns were useless to use to prevent the break in. he never used it to protect his life or property in a many decades he owned them...

[@marryellenmonahan5585]

@Bryan Kirby who is saying disarm? Nobody...just common sense gun control so our kids quit being taken as the leading cause of death.

[@toshiizo-gumi]

That last part is the most inspire thing i ever heard for my monday. now i am MOTIVATED!!!

[@doughesson]

From 1994 to 2004 there was a ban on certain types of semiautomatic rifles, standard capacity (20 rounds are standard capacity) magazines, bayonet lugs & other features that have nothing to do with the operation of a firearm. The law was allowed to expire as planned because it wasn't having the effect on crime that its supporters had claimed that it would have. It was a little curious that every time a gun control bill specifically mentioning a firearm was up for a vote, someone would commit a mass shooting using that very firearm, increasing the calls for restrictions. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence but the third time something happens, it's a deliberate action.

[@loitoshfreddo]

The car analogy was spot on🎯💯

[@coyote520]

Cars are not a Constitutional Right.

[@wrenlittle8826]

The calm voice of sanity.

[@madhurad1735]

I simply love this guy and his simplicity to explain most of the complex things ... Best analogy for today would be the outlook towards guns and the gym .... You can easily make this understandable to a small kid as well ... Hats off to this guy !!!!

[@robmccauley4692]

The thing is that he didn't mention diet and that is the most important thing. Gun control is like lifting weights it might make you feel better, but if you still have the root of the problem which is a bad diet in this analogy it will either not get better or get worse.

[@GRWelsh7]

Right to bear arms doesn't mean no limits... I don't know why people lose their minds when we try to discuss what these limits should be. For example, in most states automatic weapons are illegal... so, we already have gun control.

[@rtd1791]

They loose their minds because the gun manufacturers’ lobby has done an incredibly effective job of persuading gun enthusiasts to believe that any limits are an assault on their liberty.

[@seregruin]

Originally, this passus was only meant to give a right for people to bear arms within a militia, when the government wasn't able to protect them in a far off state. The modern interpretation, that anyone needs to be able to carry guns without training or any checks within civilisation where the police is responsible and able of dealing with crime is just ludicrous. It has nothing to do with what the constitution intended.

[@midknight]

Bcs republicans rather create problems than solutions

[@jessecuevas6456]

I can understand you being skittish of the damage certain guns can cause, potentially. But actually…. In the pure language, it says “the right to keep and bear arms (armaments), shall not be infringed.” It doesn’t say “the right to bear (certain) arms.” So your claim is just not backed by the actual writing.

[@wojolomiogbe1499]

@@jessecuevas6456 if that's the case, why then can't people randomly buy say, a tank or a bazooka?

[@desireeespinosa3954]

Such a beautiful person. Thank you Trevor

[@elliotserrano7333]

Colion Noir has some excellent intellectual and fact based insight on this, check him out.

[@jdmart82]

Yea he busted so much of what trevor with acutal facts vs his opinion

[@godSPARDA1995]

Nah Colion talked bs man

[@elliotserrano7333]

@@godSPARDA1995 lol because facts and the constitution are BS but let's take a lame comedians opinion as fact 🤣

[@handsometall28]

@@jdmart82 I lost brain cells listening to Colin, what are couple facts Colin says?

[@handsometall28]

Give me a couple of facts Colion stated.

[@Najolve]

What I find is a major problem when debating guns is that it tends to be an emotional debate rather than logical. I recently was talking with a coworker about guns and I referred to a study by the FBI and the study was dismissed outright because my coworker didn't trust the FBI (defaulting to the "agree to disagree" argument).

[@GuiltyFaT]

because the people who are trying to make more and more gun laws, dont know a single thing about guns in the first place.

[@vincegonzalez2171]

As Jim Jeffries said, there is only one legitimate, real argument in favor of owning guns: "I like guns!"

[@raulsanchez2610]

@@vincegonzalez2171 So guns being the most effective form of self defense isn’t a valid reason to own a gun?

[@vincegonzalez2171]

@@raulsanchez2610 no it isn't. Watch his video if you want to know more.

[@raulsanchez2610]

@@vincegonzalez2171 and no one should ever own any firearm ever?

[@sanneseeberg6679]

When you spoke about guns the silence was deafening, rarely have I heard anything like it on your show.

[@OGStoneVegas]

chow down. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@richardgreen1491]

Trevor, I'm not mad at you. You're a comedian, not a political analyst. So try this... Shout loudly and regularly about a Constitional Convention to create an Amendment that permanently removes money from politics! Imagine the broad results of such an Amendment!

[@ofdrumsandchords]

That's the elephant in the room. How can people take Cruz or any GOP senator seriously knowing they are funded by NRA, gun makers or gunlovers associations ? Any right winger going against guns is defunded and loses his job. We have a problem in EU with corporations infiltrating our parliaments but it's under surveillance. The funding of the political campaigns is strictly controlled. Yet we didn't succeed to forbid glyphosate.

[@narutohenaruto]

The US is starting to fade, slowly. Internally and externally its losing its grip over everything.

[@abd-animation-22]

They can't even tell which gender is which Such a sad state of affairs

[@lovel7838]

We knew it's finally here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvRe6SNfs98bJKd

[@lovel7838]

We knew it's finally here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvRe6SNfs98bJI,

[@Finthefish-hr8ky]

@@abd-animation-22 facile comment mate. Totally facile.

[@minuette1752]

Even Rome fell.

[@wickedeye00]

This guy remains to be the ultimate genius in breaking a discussion down to it's simplest form for the majority of others to understand

[@emilybroh7004]

Oh, 100%. It makes him easier to watch.

[@jasonbrisco6585]

he's a clown!

[@ikas808]

What are you talking about? Trevor has no clue what he is talking about. And you are believing what he is saying🤣

[@user-uy5py5ih2t]

Exactly. He’s explaining in a simple way to try and convince everyone that these issues are an easy one size fits all solution. You just proved my point lol. Also, If he cares about mass shootings why doesn’t he focus on them as a whole instead of only the ones in schools??

[@ADarkRogue]

Trevor has a script & a teleprompter...He's an ACTOR from South Africa... It's meant to make him seem rational & intelligent. What's really causing all of the problems....Criminals & mentally unstable people.... Guns...knives...hammers....cars.... all used to hurt people... used by who?... Criminals & mentally unstable people.

[@traceh4693]

Just because it has been, does not mean it must be.

[@jacobstiller5648]

I'm from NC, and a proud Democrat, and carry my concealed carry firearm everyday/everywhere I legally can. I was one building away from the shooting at UNCC my senior year, a place where I found myself defenseless. I carry, and will forever do so, because I refuse to be a statistic, at least not without a fight!

[@taopan963]

But you carrying a gun cannot save everyone's life. Banning (certain) guns will save more lives.

[@lloydritchey]

@@taopan963 That's an idiotic response. Just apply that rationale more broadly. And what's the limiting principle? At what point do you stop controlling others' lives in a paternalistic attempt to dictate how they should live? There's less paternalism in a Methodist church service than in this idea.

[@chriswinnett2462]

@@taopan963 look at Europe, they banned all firearms and now they have a "mass stabbing" problem. It's so bad that they're buying back knives, and have knife dump stations. You guys are so brainwashed it's hilarious.

[@GuiltyFaT]

@@taopan963 no it will not Chicago is the perfect example cant buy a gun, has the most strict gun laws in the country has the highest gun crime in the country.

[@nicholassmith4168]

@jacob stiller bravo sir

[@jasonluong3862]

George Burns said that “Too bad that all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving taxicabs and cutting hair.” Perhaps it's time we elect comedians instead of lawyers and millionaires with dubious morals.

[@mahaffer71]

(Response To Trevor Noah's The “Impossible” Conversation About Guns In America) by Colion Noir

[@givemethemusicd]

Fun fact...in our lifetimes in the US, we all have a 1 in 10 million chance of dying in a mass shooting, and a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car crash. This dude is a propagandist robot.

[@briley2177]

“You have to keep bothering… that’s what hope is.”

[@KingKobra49]

HEY! BELIEVE IN YOURSELF AND YOU WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE😤. The moment you want to quit is the moment you need to keep pushing. You got this !❤️‍🔥💯

[@marial870]

If you want to fix something, you look for solutions. If you don't want to fix something, you look for excuses.

[@Lkdltn]

Obstinance and fixation are regressive traits. If someone can't explain their position beyond "it's mine," they usually don't have a real position, you know, with words and stuff. Gun control is an emotional issue. A lot of people even associate their personal identity with all this weaponry, which means any doubt against guns is a doubt against them. Since it's such an emotional issue, they're clearly not thinking straight or logically.

[@LindaC616]

Regardless of whether or not they can defend their position (or lack thereof) intelligently, the sad thing is they will still vote

[@Lkdltn]

@@LindaC616 We need to stigmatize logic illiteracy, misinformation, and regress.

[@fluffymonster396]

I think we need to move past "guns" being a personality trait. I don't doubt a fraction of the push back are from people who are super into guns, but the NRA paying off people to push against it and controlling the messaging around the incidents certainly don't help. People who want regulation don't even want to get rid of all guns, but that's the message they feed their people.

[@LindaC616]

@@Lkdltn 👍

[@ajs11201]

@@fluffymonster396 It's both. The NRA is feeding misinformation, and those who are operating out of fear and emotion aren't equipped to see through the lies. And the politicians who are paid off by the NRA know how to prey on those fears and insecurities.

[@jilladelyn]

I’m absolutely obsessed with what you say and convey. I appreciate your show because you articulate what truly matters in a way that everyone can understand. Thank you for being you. Keep going. Keep speaking truth.

[@sftita]

I disagree. Hardly insightful. No facts presented. And I don't even own a gun. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@garyburner4362]

It's not about the guns..there are deeper reasons why these shootings are happening..

[@hogandonahue9598]

I'm a common gun owner and I can say with 100% certainty Trevor is thick as mints and I do not agree with ANY gun controle! Harriet Tubman fought for rights WITH. A. GUN. FOH.

[@duskrider1724]

Between The Scenes, Trevor is becoming our group therapist

[@dorothywright5094]

You have to keep bothering...love this!

[@javiertenorio3246]

These are the best cuts in the show. You get to hear and feel his own idea about gun laws. It's a deep conversation overall about life itself.

[@thefirstKenpachi]

Come on Trevor, the problem is obviously too many doors!

[@berylallando]

Well said for anything in life step by step!

[@sftita]

I totally disagree with his emotional argument. No facts, no stats. He should stick with comedy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I And I'm not a gun owner. Critical thinking is your friend.

[@stevenfeil7079]

Including destroying our rights. Guns gone, rights gone.

[@sylviahoffman9440]

Beautifully and perfectly stated, Trevor!!! Keep doing those push-ups 🥰

[@OGStoneVegas]

I'm going to leave this here for you... chow down. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@sftita]

Comedians to stick with comedy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@givemethemusicd]

Fun fact...in our lifetimes in the US, we all have a 1 in 10 million chance of dying in a mass shooting, and a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car crash. This dude is a propagandist robot.

[@ChrisJohnson-vi3ed]

The Swiss have a lot of guns, but every male citizen is obligated to enlist in the army at 18, and they have training. I feel that joining the national guard, or the army, should be a requirement for owning an assault rifle.

[@saturnalia91]

This might work...? It's a tiny step in the right direction. 🤔But I also talked to someone who fought in two wars (taking his word for it) and owns an AR. He's also a racist bigot who tried to tell me I'm not welcome in the US. I'm not only a legal US citizen, but I was born here in the US. My point is: just sending people to do military service isn't going to work. We'd need more regulations along with this, such as a strict mental evaluation to get into the military. Then they can own a rifle after they've completed their service.

[@humourlessjester3584]

Or maybe an obligatory training program that is specialized for private gun owners? Like how we take driving classes before getting a license.

[@melindusfindus1668]

Literally no Swiss civilian owns assault rifles. They are not allowed. Those kinds of weapons are used only in military.

[@patr5319]

Why should I have to join a military that has and will continue to commit atrocities against brown people in order to earn my second amendment rights?

[@jorgestravels]

@@melindusfindus1668 also you're not allowed to carry a loaded weapon on the street, and ammo also not carried with the weapon. You bring your gun from home, go to the firing range, get bullets, fire, in the end if there are bullets left you're not allowed to leave with them. so yeah, just that is a HUGE difference to the US.

[@mtsplash24]

Beautifully said

[@virginiaturner2570]

Brilliant. Living in both continents as you have provides you (and now us) with a unique and powerful perspective.

[@sftita]

No he doesn't. Comedians should stick to comedy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@corneferreira3079]

I live in the country he comes from and I can tell you that he doesnt speak the truth. Walking around with armed guards doesnt make you an expert on gun control. Criminals are what they are because of a mindset, not because of a device in their hands. People are killing each other in this country in the most innovative ways, very few of which involve guns. If anything, in this country if someone breaks in you hope to die by shooting because the alternative is far worse. Dont talk about things you dont understand. Our every day stories will give you nightmares. I am very honest when I say Trevor is doing nothing but playing to the masses. He does not represent the truth.

[@TheRealFLX81]

He hit the nail on the head right there. I live in Stuttgart, we have lots of Americans and a big military base here. You can discuss anything with these american people all day long and they are intelligent and understanding. But switch the subject to guns and you see their faces change immediately and they become tight lipped and dont even hear your arguments. Its insane.

[@dahawk8574]

Two other things you can't talk to us about: - 'football', and - metric.

[@akiravue498]

I love this guy!!!

[@dvout382]

So we impose laws so that law abiding citizens can't own guns to defend themselves, their families, their friends, their property, their rights and liberties. It's easy to lose focus during tragedies getting caught in all those lives lost. BUT I remind you that guns are more often used responsible and despite the medias attempt to fool you into believing that you could never use a gun for anything more than destroying life; their are many who go unsung that use guns to protect others (and I don't mean the military or police). The National Research Council found in 2013 that the number of lives saved from the defensive use of firearms numbers somewhere between 500,000 and 3 MILLION.

[@mendres3718]

i agree

[@Skyostin]

The video started and you already agree, nice

[@coldblue32E]

I really wish we could have Trevor as our country's leader, he has wisdom and charisma. Blessing from South Africa 🇿🇦 🙏🏿

[@sarahhasan6781]

The one guy who finally convinced me of the benefits of working out 😬

[@christyliebel9500]

We have all kinds of laws - and criminals ignore all of them. It's amazing how blind people are. And they get paid millions. And to protect themselves and what their millions buy for them, they hire armed security.

[@darklord2222]

Man I respect Trever so much.

[@cajunrcfamily6188]

A small group!? Sorry but I don’t know a single gun owner that agrees with banning any type of gun. I’m not talking about a person that just recently bought one and stores it in a closet either.

[@randomblank955]

This just goes to show he is part of something bigger. He has the will to lie and mis inform others for himself or his political afiliation gains.

[@SaniaPAssaf]

Thank you. Please continue to use your humor and elegance to demonstrate reason and maturity. Xo

[@givemethemusicd]

Fun fact...in our lifetimes in the US, we all have a 1 in 10 million chance of dying in a mass shooting, and a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car crash. This dude is a propagandist robot.

[@CrimpKeeper]

To think this guy from another country, who is godless himself, has a better idea of gun laws for this country than our founding fathers. You have to be low IQ to think this way 😂🤙🏽

[@joncook6167]

He would be a bit more mature if he knew actual facts

[@mygrammieis]

I Second That Emotion.. With Much Respect SIR✊

[@SO-nz5tj]

Martin Luther king , Nelson Mandela , fought for their civil rights which also includes the 2A Harriet Tubman fought for her freedom with a gun also

[@themightierpencil]

AR-15s didn't exist in 1860

[@SO-nz5tj]

@@themightierpencil what’s your point ?

[@GuiltyFaT]

@@themightierpencil nothing you have said it anything close to the topic. as well they had machineguns in the 1800s as well

[@DoraTheMFDestroya]

@@themightierpencil but I could own a warship, as many military grade cannons and muskets as I wanted AND have a privately owned security force??? "T...they didn't have moderns guns back then!!" Oh wow, it's like the founding fathers still knew technology would change since they LITERALLY INVENTED A RIFLED MUSKET AND CHANGED WARFARE AS A WHOLE WHILE THEY FOUGHT FOR THESE RIGHTS. they wrote the laws explicitly stating that these rights were to allow civilians to keep and bare military grade arms to combat tyranical governments who prey on disarmed populations. I never read a section in my constitution or bill of rights that said "these only apply to this centuries weapon technology"

[@CrowandRaven]

@@themightierpencil The most advanced weaponry of their time existed, and citizens were still allowed to own those weapons, including cannons. Your point?

[@Monster_myron]

Perfectly said. Big problems take a multitude of solutions not just one big solution. I don’t understand this all or nothing mentality we seem to be stuck in.

[@ntony6033]

Hey Friend you seems to look familiar to me, where are you connecting from?

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

Because America never got beyond middle school, mentally. Largely due to the fact that a significant portion of America literally didn't get beyond middle school.

[@GuiltyFaT]

his argument was based not on any form of fact but mindless emotion, at one point he even admitted he wanted to go after all guns. which is the same thing people have been saying the left wants to do.

[@necryeopyre9577]

totally agree with Trevor. it requires incremental steps rather than a straight solution that solves the problem

[@Relentlesscopez]

Incremental like trying to ban guns for 80 years and already having 30000 current gun laws? And were supposed to believe you when you say you dont want to take my guns?

[@9ninrninr947]

Incremental steps that don't lead to to any solutions...Because youre driven entirely by irrational fear and ignorance.

[@Areniapixie]

Huh, I needed this. It’s beginning to look unfixable, but now I have a new perspective

[@doughesson]

You keep equating all gun owners as being criminals. Why would you do that? Aren't we supposed to not blame all members of a group for the actions of a few of them? How is gun control working out in South Africa? May I suggest that you invite a man named Colion Noir to the show & debate him?

[@markusshelby3436]

You are not man enough to go on with Colion. He said many times he wants to sit down with you why don't you show us how smart you are how right you are and that your man enough to be able to beat him. If not you're just another Rich Foreigner that's privileged and a coward.

[@albertbecerra]

Eh Trevor would be to much of a coward

[@DavidRooke5412]

Trevor sums up the situation clearly.

[@TooLittleInfo]

It's an impossible conversation because they deliberately do not want to find a solution. They cannot allow the conversation to be opened up because they know at some point they'll be backed into a corner and unable to justify themselves in any rational way. So they just won't even go there.

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

Well, we may be seeing the beginning of those gun nuts being backed into a corner. Let's keep pushing.

[@ianmiller6040]

@@georgeb.wolffsohn30 But that's when they start shooting into crowds. We need to be careful how we do this, but yes, strict gun regulation like Germany and most of Europe is needed in the US as well.

[@sworddomo1951]

Would you be able to compromise a solution they would want that you wouldn't or would compromise or conversations only lead to your answer?

[@commanderuseless1685]

@@sworddomo1951 I think the problem is that there are more than one type of solution, one that addresses the core or root of the problem and one that tries to put band aids over them instead. You know, reduce available guns vs up school safety for gun violence.

[@TooLittleInfo]

@@sworddomo1951 By the way that you wrote that I can see that in your mind this is an ideological debate. It isn't about that anymore. People want kids to not die at school. Come with solutions that have a chance of working and people will be willing to listen.

[@rinniebell31]

I love listening to his point of view on things!

[@silvermediastudio]

Yep, always a great example of what not to do.

[@williamcreighton1417]

Any country that wilfully refuses to protect its children is sick broken and disgusting

[@fitforfreelance]

I was thinking about this in terms of personal (and public!) health too. One solution won't fix the whole problem, but it's infinitely better than not doing anything at all!

[@givemethemusicd]

You should stop driving. Fun fact...in our lifetimes in the US, we all have a 1 in 10 million chance of dying in a mass shooting, and a 1 in 107 chance of dying in a car crash. This dude is a propagandist robot.

[@KillerAJ]

It’s not an impossible conversation. But both sides need to educate themselves about firearms before starting the conversation. Example: someone asked a New York lawmaker if the new semiautomatic licensing requirement would apply to .22s and the lawmaker replied “whats a .22”?

[@censored4770]

Both sides? Nah just the anti gun people, gun people are very well versed on firearms, and gun related death tolls

[@KillerAJ]

@@censored4770 There are three type of people in the world. Pro-gun, anti-gun, and those who actually know how firearms work. I hear lies about firearms all the time from both sides. Examples of the lies: AR15s are responsible for most deaths. No, handguns are are responsible for most gun deaths. AR15 is not a weapon of war. Yes, it absolutely is a weapon of war. However, the 2nd amendment is about providing the citizenry with parity of arms and covers weapons of war. The 5.56 is a high powered round. No, it is a low-intermediate round. An example of a high powered round would be .308 or 30.06. Just because it can do a lot of damage doesn’t mean it is high powered. High power refers to how much energy produced and recoil generated.

[@censored4770]

@@KillerAJ That's not true, there's pro gun, and anti gun people who know how firearms work, mostly just pro gun. Also that's two blatant lies from anti gun people because clearly a 223, or 556 is not high power, and yes handguns are used most. The only thing you said that pro gun people will lie about is the "weapon of war" thing, which is a loaded comment. Saying it's a weapon of war implies that it's only use is for warfare, and that's where pro gun people will say, "no you can use it for any purpose firearms are used for." Was it designed for combat? Yeah the M16 was a response to the AK47. However you said it yourself, that's regardless because the constitution still protects the right to own it. So I don't see a high level of deception from pro gun people there.

[@censored4770]

@@KillerAJ I want to reply to you but when I click the comment thread it doesn't show your replies, thanks for trying to have an actual discussion about it though

[@KillerAJ]

@@censored4770 Idk why that happens. I see what I posted. Can the channel hide comments?

[@Gut2-Cush]

Why have gun shootings increased dramatically in recent times, what is wrong with America??????

[@evanmaples3301]

Your proving our point when we say your trying to take all of our guns you know that right trevor?

[@AlexKPorell]

You sick gun nuts should have your little toys taken away

[@mikeyoo9841]

I appreciate this content and replies. I comment after one of Texas school shooting that gun is made for killing and can't believe reply I got. I felt same. Impossible. Than again, you all give me another hope. Thank you.

[@sftita]

It was an entirely an emotional argument. No facts, no stats. He should stick with comedy. And I'm not even a gun owner, never owned one. But I DO know the laws and stats on guns. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@shonniebeenatural]

Well said Trevor

[@timblank4432]

This is one of the top commentary from Trevor Noah about this topic. Step by step we can reach that goal.

[@chrislamar9511]

But he also has to think about the fact that anyone with a 3d printer and a little bit of experience can make a gun thanks ghost guns for example

[@Kamekichi9E]

@@chrislamar9511 why 3D print a gun when you can just buy a gun and file off the serial number or just steal one?

[@allpoliticalskykomishvalle963]

Remove juvenile protections that prevent them from being flagged when they turn 18. A history of violence domestic or criminal. A history of mental health issues. These are the common issues that all of these young males that commit these heinous acts. This is the loop hole in the law that allows for them to purchase firearms. No clean slate for kids that commit crimes. Their record should be avaible to these background checks or any background check being performed. This will prevent the legal sale of legal guns to those that shouldn't have them.

[@hillcresthiker]

This is the area that needs more research and controls/ this would be common sense. Not taking guns away from law abiding citizens.

[@DasGrosseFressen]

Gott you are... Oh forget it, shoot each other.

[@wintergarden7539]

Thank you for this conversation, Trevor!!!!

[@OGStoneVegas]

chow down. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@jasonsharpe9963]

Interesting comment. Winter Garden is a bot?

[@wintergarden7539]

@@jasonsharpe9963 Not a bot. LOL. I truly appreciate how Trevor discussed this hot-button issue that's used the same tired old arguments for decades.

[@annestovgaard681]

A very emotional video, and I agree. Never give up your hopes and dreams, americans deserve better lives, its worth fighting for.

[@ntony6033]

Hey Friend you seems to look familiar to me, where are you connecting from?

[@scottdegregoris7987]

I know, right? May the wings of liberty never lose a feather...

[@annestovgaard681]

@@ntony6033 me? I´m from Denmark, I just want americans to be safe and happy to :-)

[@ntony6033]

@@annestovgaard681 Thanks very much for your concern Hope Denmark is doing great?

[@annestovgaard681]

@@ntony6033 we are thx :-)

[@pyronymph-868]

Remember back when they used to tell us, " Now is not the time to have the conversation about gun control. Right now it's about the families of the victims. Stop politicizing their grief." I always thought that was a cop-out. Now that mass shootings are occurring nearly daily, they don't say that anymore. It's because it never was appropriate; NOW is the time to talk about common sense gun control laws.

[@animewitch1416]

Oh they’re still saying it. At least the “stop politicizing guns” and “now isn’t the time for this conversation” parts. They’re just forgetting about the victims and not saying it as much. Of course, those same people who don’t want guns politicized use guns as a basis for their whole political careers. If that’s not politicizing guns, I don’t know what is.

[@thenetworkguru3485]

The truth , individuals often are quick to be judgemental. Trevor speaks the truth

[@alanpadgett3213]

You all hear on the news and social media about the 0.00001% of people that HAVE guns, NOT the 99.99999% of gun OWNERS that adhere to the laws. Wise up people that you're no where near from what is ACTUALLY happening and only chose to listen to what you want to hear and NOT was is actually happening in front of you. These late night talk show hosts are OPINIONATED mouth pieces of one...not the majority.

[@ADarkRogue]

SHHHhhhh, don't burst the bubble. They don't know Trevor has a script & a teleprompter... they might not even know he's an ACTOR from South Africa...

[@chengkuoklee5734]

How'bout other countries' experience?

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

So, not to spoil your fun, but 0.00001% of America is less than 40 people.

[@twoperrin]

So where are these 400,000,000 Guns that are in America? Mostly owned by YT people? That's truly unnecessary.

[@TheReviewQueen82]

Well, I hate to burst your bubble. However, I guess you didn't know that Trevor's opinion is based on personal experience. Yeah...his mom was shot by her ex-husband/his step-father years ago. In fact, the reason why Trevor went to the states at first was to get away from South Africa as his step-father threatened to hunt him down. It is true that this didn't happen in America. Yet, understand that this situation is a reason why guns hit home for Trevor

[@rossp561]

Since the Constitution states a "well regulated militia", why don't we require everyone to serve in the National Guard for two or three years and then grant them the right to own a gun.

[@CRanapia]

Uh, because that's the wrong answer to the wrong question. Here's the right one: Does the 2nd Amendment still make a lick of sense in the 21st Century America that hasn't been a largely agrarian country that was barely a generation away from being colonial subjects of the British Empire, and didn't have a standing dedicated army, for a very very long time? If America could repeal Prohibition, and introduce constitutional amendments to abolish human slavery AND grant women the right to vote, it's not beyond the realm of possibility to say the 2nd Amendment is no longer fit for use.

[@patr5319]

Because it's quite clear that the founding fathers meant that the "militia" of that time meant every able bodied adult in the US. Frankly, I'd have no problem with your requirement but the "National Guard" these days doesn't really do much Guarding as much as they are fighting the same illegal and unethical wars overseas like the rest of our military. I shouldn't have to partake in atrocities against brown people in order to earn my second amendment rights.

[@OrangeGuyBlows]

first off you might want to research what that meant at the time....here i will help you : What is a militia? At the time of the American Revolutionary War, militias were groups of able-bodied men who protected their towns, colonies, and eventually states. "[When the Constitution was drafted], the militia was a state-based institution," says Rakove. "States were responsible for organizing this." What did it mean to be well regulated? One of the biggest challenges in interpreting a centuries-old document is that the meanings of words change or diverge. "Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed, well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was in an effective shape to fight." In other words, it didn't mean the state was controlling the militia in a certain way, but rather that the militia was prepared to do its duty. constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf

[@fatherplatypus2316]

Bcs it infringed their right. Directly quoted from a reply i got

[@onelongwordable]

@@CRanapia The US never overcame slavery. It is still clearly allowed by the Constitution, no I am not exaggerating. If you're a federal prisoner you can be subject to slavery in clear and plain language

[@mikeb5499]

Wise words my man.

[@shaund9759]

I love you Trevor Noah. This was incredibly powerful.

[@sftita]

Hardly "powerful", hardly incisive. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fp3FZ3R6r82DY5I

[@jasonsharpe9963]

Was it though…

[@hazelem1266]

It’s also that small group, in power, that is highly compromised because of the money they have received from these very wealthy corporations.

[@helgaioannidis9365]

When I was a kid we were watching some Hollywood movie with my mum. Don't remember which. My mum about 10 minutes after the beginning said "so that guy will die towards the end then". I was confused and she said "in American movies the bad guy towards the end dies. They just don't like the concept of the bad guy changing his mind, seeking redemption and becoming a positive part of society. You're bad, you die. That's how they work. They just really adore seeing someone die they dislike." I was pretty shocked by this statement and whenever I come across discussions about gun violence in the US this comes to my mind. That maybe my mum is right and their culture loves death more than life, punishment more than redemption and guns more than people.

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

Yes, yes, and probably. Also, I appreciate that observation with Hollywood movies. I hadn't noticed it, but yeah that generally is how they go.

[@davidbingham4348]

My favorite Trevor Noah material is these “Between The Scenes” segments, where he’s more thoughtful and less silly. He’s extremely intelligent and articulate.

[@Relentlesscopez]

Yea hes really articulating all those wrong assumptions about firearms.

[@swiggeyy8620]

He’s a rock

[@porfiriato84]

I used to be all about Stephen Colbert. But the more I watch Trevor the more I respect him and his views. These more intimate segments are so needed. Stephen just uses monologues and jokes too much.

[@globaladdict]

Stephen is on his way out to be honest. I just feel like he's gearing up with retirement. He intentially took his late night segment because it's waaay less strenuous than all of earlier wacky projects that we love

[@ajs11201]

They're both excellent at what they do. It's just a different style. I'd be honored to be in the company of either of them.

[@porfiriato84]

@@globaladdict on top of that he takes more breaks than any other late night host.

[@silvermediastudio]

He really does articulate lies and deception well. It panders to low-IQ leftists like yourself who love the idea of giving away your rights and power to the Government, in return for an empty promise of safety and stability.

[@anxiouspotatoes]

Gem of a quote at the end.

[@annsanse2935]

it's the money in politics. get the money out of politics. that's step number one. that overton window thing is probably step number two.

[@M69392]

Or at the very very least force politicians to publish all their donations = who they really work for. The USA really is the freest country in the world... including the freedom to quietly buy politicians.

[@ElectroDFW]

Vote all incumbents out. Repeat for about 12 years. Maybe they'll start representing the people if they want to stay.

[@Airlequin]

I really really like these moments with Trevor. I wish the world have more people of influence like Trevor. Maybe it would make the world a little bit better....

[@manniefresh3425]

The only people he’s “influencing” are people that already agree with him sooo..

[@andrewjeffries8721]

So Trevor is not just a funny guy but has a wise and sensible viewpoint on solving the issue to prevent mass shootings. Thank you Trevor for your honest viewponts!

[@devastatinglogic6252]

Hello Trevor, So one concern I have is about the emergence of an underground market in guns or in some other weapons, if certain firearms became illegal to own. Just look at some other examples of "banned" items that remain obtainable even though politicians have passed legislation after legislation to regulate or even ban them: a multitude of drugs, shadow banking, prostitution, gambling in your friend's basement, to say nothing of alcohol prohibition of the 1920s. All of these things are (were) either illegal in some places, heavily regulated, or maybe banned altogether. Yet, if I wanted any of them today, I could get them within an hour. Wouldn't this kind of access also apply to weapons? Please tell me I'm wrong, because I kind of wish I was.

[@ElectroDFW]

Sounds to me like you know a lot of criminals. Someone should probably look into that.

[@devastatinglogic6252]

@@ElectroDFW Could you please define "criminal"? Also, what about the broader concern, that banning this or that could push that product underground. Is this a valid concern, do you think; or perhaps would this phenomena somehow not apply to weapons? Any honest analysis from anyone is appreciated here.🤔 By the way, I'd be happy to provide my best definition of "criminal" as well. When I see your definition or someone else's, I will share mine as well; I just don't want to bias your reply, or anyone else's. But I don't want to digress into what it means to be a criminal. I'd like to know whether my concern about an underground market in weapons is valid, or am I just concerned over nothing; and why.

[@Dimps80sBaby]

@@ElectroDFW I'm crying real tears 😂😂😂

[@Dimps80sBaby]

But to your point there already is... so that point is moot... but its harder nowadays for people to buy illegal firearms than it is to buy them legally... Which is the issue

[@MakiiBlue]

I'm French, and just because there's an underground market, we still never have school shouting. There's always a black market for something. But This is still regulated, and illegal, which makes things fewer chances to happen. There's an underground market in every country, but you're the only one to have all guns and have school shootings.