The IMPOSSIBLE World Record | Women’s 800m

[@Arthur_Pint]

Kratochvilova set an unbelievable World record aged 32 in the Women's 800m, in what was only her 2nd race at that distance. And she did that whilst being built like she could've won the outright men's World Middleweight Boxing Championship! Until she was 28, Kratochvilova was at best a 'Journey man' type of athlete, but in just a few years she obliterated the 800m record, and improved her 400m record by, wait for it, a full 5 seconds! So, how likely is it that she was using performance enhancing drugs? Answer- Virtually Certain

[@Erikre33]

few years ago she said: ""If they took away my record, it would be complete nonsense. I have never taken banned substances"" :D we czechs and slovaks have a good sense of humor sometimes

[@joseflomicky7126]

Nevím proč lže, vim co říkám,klidně vám odpovím na vše

[@JohnSmith-vy4lh]

Well she would say that. It was obvious she was on the juice . And this problem hasn't gone away. There is a big problem in Kenyan athletics at present.

[@lekoricovacz]

​@@JohnSmith-vy4lh it is possible that a person can be so physically superior than the generation they're living in. Nobody will argue that her appearance was manly. Throughout sports the fact that a person is so physically superior they're then the best. Racehorses are the same. Secretariat an American horse ran an unbelievable time one day in the US which has never been surpassed and autopsy on him showed a heart size double of a regular racehorse.

[@JohnSmith-vy4lh]

@@lekoricovacz You keep telling yourself that , if it makes you feel better.

[@TheEulerID]

@@lekoricovacz the women's 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m and 4 x 400m world records were all set in the 1980s. The only women's sprint or middle distance record set since that decade are the 100m hurdles, 4 x 100m and 400m hurdles. That is surely beyond coincidence. There are no men's track event world records from the 1980s (just two throwing events). That seems to be beyond coincidence, and the most likely hypothesis by far is that performance enhancing drugs have a disproportionate effect on women's bodies.

[@TheStr8line]

How did Roger Daltrey find the time?

[@davidholmes2283]

😂😂😂

[@Logans3Run]

@@TheStr8line Now that you've pointed it out, it bloody does! 😆👍

[@Daniel-79]

No one knows what it's like To be the bad man To be the sad man Behind blue eyes And no one knows what it's like To be hated To be fated to telling only lies…

[@luispalacios7412]

There is absolutely zero doubts that this woman was not extremely doped. A woman can not get this muscular without androgens it is just impossible. She has the body type of a male sprinter. You will never see a man this muscular setting a WR in any event longer than 400m because is not possible.

[@mariamonig3366]

Seen her yesterday in TV. She is older,of course. But she looks slim and female. No doubt,she used Doping during her career. But still she refuses...

[@VeridicusMaximus]

@@mariamonig3366 It could be possible she has plausible deniability - she was given PEDs unknown to her. Thus the 'I've never taken PEDs' - technically true!!

[@Simon-xi8tb]

that, or she was born 3/4 a man

[@CIF-pm7tk]

She was at balco labs 🧪 🧫 🥼 before Bonds and the rest of them

[@keir92]

keely has now run 1:54.61. she might never break it, but she might break 1:54 and may have the fastest probably clean time ever.

[@ianhirst1148]

She is only 22 and getting better.

[@anvithkotha630]

That was a dope race!

[@AndreasJohanns]

Personally, I don't think that record is a clean one. Consider the upper body physique of world class 800 runners today (rather thin arms, understandably) compared with Kratochvilova and her striking deltoids, pecks, and triceps (I say the same of Flo Jo, btw). Unique training methods don't account for that upper body muscularity, especially when it's not vital to middle distance running.

[@MrSweeper420]

She even looks more powerful than Semenya

[@AndreasJohanns]

@@MrSweeper420 Good point. Shall we add the presence of the Adam's Apple. Now, if only we could find a recording of her voice at that time (listen to Semenya's voice).

[@ronniejohnson196]

Wrong! Flo Jo's Physical Appearance was that of a Beautiful Well Conditioned Woman Athlete(Height 5' 7" & Weight 125 lbs) No Comparison.>Get Your Eyes Checked and/or Learn more about Women.

[@carsonmalleet4367]

I think she either doped or was unknowingly intersex. Female natural or nearly natural bodybuilders can’t even achieve her physique. She has the same physique as Nick Symmonds or Mahkloufi, both of which I’ve seen get accused of doping because they were also supposedly too muscular to be world class 800m runners.

[@chessplayer-ms3pn]

@@ronniejohnson196 She was def doping.

[@zvbx]

Here’s a reason why I think Kratochvilova is not legit, the current men’s record holder in the 800 meters is David Rudishi of Kenya and he’s built the way a 800 meter runner should be. If Kratochvilova was a bit taller she could play opposite Aiden Hutchinson on the Lions.

[@bernardm2528]

This world record first lap was run in 56.82sec. We have just had a female 17 year old and 1 month, run first lap in 56.56sec and finished in 1.57.86 sec.

[@deanwerny1]

yeah i do have a comment, she was doped to next level, it wasnt her fault, it was state run and she would either take it or would be banned from competing, her parents would lose their jobs and so on. That being said, her training was absolutely bonkers. She trained every day like no one would train for one day.

[@MarkB-vp9ki]

I might be wrong but i think I can see the outline of her entire hog in those shorts.

[@chrisoutram3118]

It is called clitoromegaly

[@emenem6131]

Bahahaha!!!

[@dombrandon3018]

I was thinking the same thing. She also looks like my mate Henry.

[@thebighousencaaattendancer478]

You mean "The most juiced up track world record there is!"

[@lekoricovacz]

Did you listen to the video? How come you don't acknowledge the extremes in training that should be commended rather than baseless accusations? Anyone who trained so hard deserves what they achieve

[@bobbyk9939]

Definitely 100% steroids user. No woman middle distance runners have those types of arms, legs, deltoids, or built with lots of hair in the armpits. With the male jaw line features in her face, looks like a dude 800m record to me.

[@Zeus-7778]

let alone women not even middle distance men have those build

[@giovanna722]

100%

[@charleshuang1110]

The training you mentioned that she did really caught my attention. Today, everyone from middle distance to marathons only train a little in the gym and just run plain but I wonder if training with a higher resistance while running (weighted vest, restricted breathing, tire attached) would actually yield a greater gain then just plain running

[@payrysdoscs4903]

Yeah, her training and her farm background were factors of her success. But the difference in her stature compared to girls like Jelimo and Mu makes her performance sketchy. And considering the next few performances on the all-time list are also from that time period, the doping allegations get more credibility imo.

[@charleshuang1110]

@@payrysdoscs4903 yea i pretty much have no doubt it wasn't clean. She's the most jacked 800m runner ive ever seen male or female. Shes more jacked then most regular 400m dudes too

[@ronniejohnson196]

@@charleshuang1110 Pretty Much!!!

[@carsonmalleet4367]

I think especially in the 400/800 resistance training is ESSENTIAL. The interesting thing about these races is that you race to muscular failure similar to how you would in the weight room, and 400-1000m is really the only event range that is like this. I was always a 56-57 guy for most of highschool, until senior year I got injured for 3 months and could only lift. No speed work, only aerobic training on an elliptical, and lifting. A week after beginning running training again I ran 52.5. After getting back in good running shape and keeping up the work in the weight room, I broke 50 and 1:50 a year later in college. I think the lifting was easily the largest factor. I notice in these events the more muscular guys seem to have the better finishing kick (think mahkloufi, Snell, Symmonds) when in other events it seems to be the opposite.

[@kobbieafriyie2172]

@@charleshuang1110 hahahahahaha---your comments are too

[@andrewsmith3037]

Impossible to break cuz that’s a whole dude

[@trinidadrodriquez876]

Not impossible hidtchkins just ran 1.54.61,

[@Fatta007]

Facts tho 😂

[@RichardJones-u6c]

If it was purely down to her training regime as she claims, why hasn't anybody else done it since using the same methods or updated versions of them? Particularly, given she's now a coach, you would've thought she would pass this 'knowledge' on to her athletes!

[@MNC2k]

mate she'll be doped out of her mind lol

[@rielbertrand8255]

Dude looks like a lady.

[@HeyPaulhasopinions]

Honestly… looks like she was sweating testosterone 😂😂

[@evandonahue5456]

THAT’S A DUDE

[@kevinkasp]

Even more, a dude pumped full of steroids with blood fully doped.

[@wretchlikeme6899]

Right!😂 No question in my mind.

[@trackaholic-noel9488]

Absolutely!!!! More dude than Caster Semenya 4 sure. Double standards at play. Record should be vacated post haste. Ridiculous!!!!!Dude has a neck like a football line backer & muscles in his face. His gait in walking & running is distinctly given to the masculine gender. Probably the first trans athlete.😅

[@joeortiz7715]

Jelimo as well.

[@ownknow8161]

*Right; that’s a dude, a roided-up dude, or a roided-up woman.*

[@ajuk1]

Roger Daltrey?

[@zvbx]

I was trying to figure out who she (?) looked like any you nailed it!

[@sanderslongdrive]

Cheating is not confined to drug taking and was it ever the key issue? Drug taking within athletics is almost never fully understood by writers in forums, and see the issue as black and white and its far from it. How do you feel about athletes who have taken drugs outside of the testing 'Reveal time?' And are 100% clean when tested, albeit possess a body like tarzan? 1. Is drug taking the no. 1 issue? If a person competes in a women's event and 'she' has a massively high and not allowed testosterone level either occurring naturally or by injection how does such sit within your critical analysis? How do you feel about the level of track springiness (co-efficient of restitution) being unregulated and massively reducing records? How do you feel about modern shoe technology? Clothes technology and what is or should be banned (as in swimming) I know nothing about. Possibly not yet fully addressed? 2. How complicit are governing bodies in rule breaches? (a) For years (indeed until extremely recently) women in short distance events were allowed to compete notwithstanding illegal testosterone levels. (b) At at a not too long ago Olympics 96% of host competitors tested positive. There was only one disqualification based on such!!!!!!! So very rarely spoken of! I only ever saw it mentioned with credibility within a year of those Olympics. (c) Testing by blood / urine is only good for a few days after injestion. Taking a hair sample can be good for up to 30 days if the hair is long and has not been bleached, but a very rare test. There are many other things which I could list which support the notion that it's easy to cheat, or otherwise legally improve times without improvement and likely always will be, if one is that way disposed, and only careless fools get caught.

[@dr.doomandgloom]

Honestly, I was trying to figure out who this man was and what record he held.

[@jamescaricola6439]

Finkel is einhorn

[@emenem6131]

Everyone in the house that I lost my mind laughing like a crazy person at this comment! Oh shhh thank you for that! 🤣

[@wf1901]

She ran at a track meet I competed at. People were shocked when she ran past. She ran like a linebacker. Nothing graceful in her stride.

[@terrya8989]

They were all on steroids back then, both East and Western athletes. What set her apart was the unbelievable hard training, 8 hours a day, 7 days a week.

[@iangraham9050]

I'm not so sure she wasn't drug-free. I have seen some women who are ripped just as some men through insane training. When she trained at 4 a.m. on ice in winter, dragged the tyres, and ran on a cinder track, wearing a respirator to increase her lung capacity was just mad, but having worn a respirator I can tell you it does increase your VO2 max massively. What I see from the pictures and videos is a ripped body ahead of her time. Now if she did, then she did the same as all the Russian and American athletes were doing at the time, so her record should still stand. I hope Keely is the one to break the record, but she will have to take a leaf out of Kratochvilova's book and try some of these insane training methods to see if it improves her physique, stamina and times.

[@lekoricovacz]

Emil zaptopek. He wasn't doped i believe yet hard to understand how he could do what he did, especially running more than one long distance qualifiers in the same day. Because are not British or American you throw accusations around online. It is acceptable to perhaps think it but not correct to write it.

[@Levoyageur-y3w]

Je pense que celle qui battra le record du monde de Kratochvilova sera Phoebe Gill qui vient de gagner le championnat d'Angleterre alors qu'elle n'a que 17 ans. Elle est qualifiée pour les jeux olympiques de Paris. Elle n'était pas essoufflée à l'arrivée et n'était pas fatiguée. Sa marge de progression est énorme. Elle pourrait courir deux tours en 56 secondes chacun et battre le record du monde en 1'52"". Je pense que Phoebe Gill va être la sensation des jeux olympiques.

[@normanbell-br7nf]

lot of muscle for an accountant

[@jp05598]

“She”

[@mf5202]

I thought we were talking about the 800 Woman record not men...

[@chessplayer-ms3pn]

lol

[@benamago6667]

That’s a man

[@adrianthompson7618]

Phoebe Gill is around 3 to 4 seconds faster that KH was at age 17. She is most likely to be first to break the world record

[@LearningFast]

Barry Bonds thinks this record is obviously tainted.

[@VeridicusMaximus]

He would know!

[@stephanfourie6879]

The only person that could possibly break it was Caster Semenya till seb coe derailed her career

[@ianhirst1148]

That was because she had male genes.

[@erickelly4107]

She looks more muscle bound then many men, she was doping and doping hard.

[@Anakunus]

Spoiler alert: neither Hodgkinson nor anyone else beat the record in 2024 Olympic games.

[@jamesmurray5600]

It would be very unlikely to see the 800m record go down at the Olympics. It will likely have to go in a Diamond League meet.

[@54321-p]

See the close up of her jaw. The dope may have caused this overgrowth and misalignment. So sad this "record" is still the record.

[@dfinma]

bro was fast that's for sure

[@beatricemaluki8396]

Faith kipyegon requests a chance to challenge the 800m record.

[@jimbones155]

The women's javelin WR of 80M is no less impressive and will probably exceed the 800M WR in length of duration, as will the women's discus WR of 76.8M; however, Bob Beamon has the oldest Olympic record which will be 56 years old in 2024. Flo Jo's records are in jeopardy, but seems unlikely. The women's 800M record could be the first to go down among the trans men of the 80s.

[@archie6945]

Seem to have forgotten Moraa - & is it for Semenya to have a go, if she's allowed? Think if she hadn't been far better than the rest at the time, she probably wouldn't have had a problem...now these three could be competitive against her.

[@Trackstaa_]

Moraa has added herself into the conversation. Semenya as of now can't

[@eiralevp9639]

Marital Koch and jarmila kartilova could have had high testosterone level.

[@ianhirst1148]

Koch was part of East German drug porogramme.

[@dantealigieri2268]

I had the opportunity to meet Kratochvilová. I was not able to handle her training doses. Be aware of a few things. She is a very tough and talented woman. In her time in the Czechoslovakia, it looked like she trained every day. No family, no friends, no fun, no personal time off. Just hard training. It's similar to Viktor Tikhonov's base in hockey. This was the time. Today, no one would want to live like this and train for one thing. Maybe she was taking drugs unknowingly. I think not. That kind of person just isn't born often. To this day, he has no health consequences from the drugs and still runs. If she took drugs a lot, she wouldn't be able to live like this anymore.

[@trackaholic-noel9488]

That's a transplant athlete!!!! More of a dude than CASTER Semenya 😅😅😅

[@anibaljrbalt]

Your comments are nonsense. She was a cheater. And a liar ever since.

[@hillaryhillary2098]

I love the way you snuck in a *he when referring to her

[@tomsheppard378]

Nothing but hard work and trenbolone sandwiches.

[@johngodfrey.766]

These drugs are taken not just before the event to perform on the day better, but while training so she could train so hard as she was, they prevent break down though injury.

[@bboyb7]

Caster Semenya would have probably broken it by now if it wasn’t for the new rule

[@emenem6131]

Castrated what?

[@BlueBerryMilkshake-yi6rz]

Yep she would have, those who persecuted and bullied her knew it was under threat.🤞🏾

[@rustysworldofentertainment850]

What new rule? That only women can set women's records?

[@cathynewyork7918]

@@emenem6131 Not funny. Look up Caster Semenya if you truly do not know who he/she was.

[@archlutesmith]

Yep Semenya's the better man

[@The_SuperNatural803]

We'd have to find another man with that physique to have a chance to break the record.

[@UltraWhale]

Looks like s(he) has the same condition as that caster semenya dude

[@shonisanisteven6015]

Unfortunately Semenya is not pink European human being to get protection he/she this record holder have

[@gnrnando88]

Lady looks like Roger Daltrey from The Who! hahahah

[@apcook34]

Imagine if they had the Nike shoes of today ...

[@roberttaylor9628]

Women? I thought it was Sebastian Coe.

[@anibaljrbalt]

To suggest that Jarmila wasn't using steroids is total rubbish and reckless. It does disservice to Sport. If you look at her physical features between then and now you can clesrly see the marked difference.

[@freestyle88]

How do we know that wasn't a trans male running the female events? The muscle tone is just too jacked... something ain't right.

[@nikohot1]

That’s a dude, Adams apple was big as hell

[@Chris-es7qp]

This will change next year... watch Kelly Hodgkinson go

[@krismarais1725]

This ' record' should be scrapped for ' obvious ' reasons.

[@netia2]

Til this day im not sure how they allowed this grown man to run this race against woman, set a record n keep said record.

[@danielvermeer3363]

NOCRACKCRUTCHILOVA.😂😂

[@andisacrament825]

Was this person an actual female?

[@cbridgettestewart8635]

THAT'S A MAN!!! LOOK AT HIS CROTCH AND THROAT!!! NO WONDER "HE SET THE RECORD. 😮

[@qaskew24]

That is a dude, that record will never be broken. That is not a female. Look at her or him.

[@Trackstaa_]

no comment

[@petyrkowalski9887]

« She » also holds the 400m as well. This was in the peak steroid era.

[@terrya8989]

No she does not. It is held by Marita Koch set in 1985.

[@orlandoduran9850]

Ella tenía una historia de récords antes de estos en 800 no salió de un año para otro como FLO FLO

[@gule55]

este récord y el de 400m son dopaje, de limpio no tienen nada.

[@peterrutkowski8172]

Spoiler alert - that's a dude.

[@prowelsh56]

no ladt schik bck in those days?

[@Ноунейм1221]

Kids don't use drugs

[@johngodfrey.766]

It doesn’t count, or shouldn’t, these methods you show are nothing to do with her record, I can’t say what I think unfortunately, like the 400 meters W record and the 100 meters W record you can discount them all.

[@patriciogrinstin4827]

There is too much hipocresy talking about 80s athletes. Mention me only 1 record from this era whose athlete has not been doped.

[@HeliosNeo]

Photographic evidence should be all that's needed in this instance.

[@MrBeast-1]

Very hard working..... on tons of PEDs, basically a man.

[@kobbieafriyie2172]

hahahaheheheheheh

[@cesarlua1113sl]

DRUGS REALLY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. ERASE ANY WR S BEFORE 1985

[@meinolfwestig9463]

Take that record away from that guy ! It's totally unfair to the women !

[@CIF-pm7tk]

U say has masks and tires! I say 💉 🩸 alll 🥤 up!!!

[@matt7iron]

Thats a dude 😮

[@anitdua]

That is a guy.

[@vlastimilpesa8846]

No on ten Jarmil Kratochvíl dokázal věci.

[@ownknow8161]

*That’s either a dude, a roided-up dude, or a roided-up woman.*

[@gabrielakoncinska8209]

Let me just remind you all "smart people" that Men's world record for 800 meters is 1:40:91 from year 2012...thats whole 12 second faster....Jarmila's time is not even in mens list so no....she is not a dude....

[@johnlewisiii2076]

She never had children. I wonder why. Kinda sad.

[@delwoodkelp8590]

Cute as a button... remines me of the sisters Irina and Tamara Press.... Lovely gals

[@norwolf4765]

That woman who set the 800m record......I would swear is a man!

[@boblonergan7583]

They check to make sure she female.

[@brutus669]

She was probably taking roids like candies. It's not just her muscles and masculine appearance, but also the skin. Steroids cause skin go hard and look older, there's that specific look you can easily recognize. Even lots of male athletes get skin problems and akne from that stuff.

[@bobbyknox9258]

She looks like my mate Phil. But more manly

[@tommyshanks8375]

…and Steroid Use, that Gal had hair on her bag.

[@caroljones587]

Nothing feminine about her but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck then it is a 🦆

[@judgeroybean6930]

If Kratochkilova DID run a fair race and won on merit she has had to survive 40 years of finger pointing, verbal allegations and abuse simply for the period in which she ran AND due to her country and others similar having a record of " WIN, WIN, WIN. No matter how you do it, that isn't important, just win.

[@GomesDavid69]

The records will come eventually, when they are due. Athletes will always focus on getting better, and on winning. It's what they can and should do. The good thing is, it will be true talent and real progression of training, technique and the human body developing with time. Without the use of harmful substances. When it happens, it will be amazing. And I'm sure it will surprise everyone. And it would be wonderful even if it's someone completely new and unknown that does it.

[@killerwhale-pb2hg]

Is 1:53:28 really that fast? I mean the world record is 1:40:91

[@Trackstaa_]

the women's world record is 1:53 though?

[@terrya8989]

1.53.28 is the womens record dummy.

[@davidevans6064]

Drugs5

[@AlonsoRules]

This is the most doped race in the history of the human species

[@nadeerawij4283]

Thats a male or a transgender

[@OlympicShortsStories]

Setting a world record at 32 is incredible, but the fact that Jarmila Kratochvílová's record still stands today is simply legendary.

[@mediacare6744]

This is a man!

[@hillaryhillary2098]

He was way ahead of *her time when it comes to transathletes competing with women

[@thomasgreen1914]

She's a man

[@pjoseph1658]

Everyone---ladies---in the Communist East Block (East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Russia) were taking steroids, various enhancement drugs---all towards increasing testosterone (for women---there are no records by men at this time of any significance). Marita Koch, Jarmila Kratochvilova, Tatyana Kazankina, were all world-record holders, aided by drugs---and, yes, tough unorthodox training. Flo Jo, also was drug-aided. She nearly grew a moustache. She knew she would never win gold or break the world record without it. So, why did they do it? Ambition makes people do dishonest things, and cheat, anything to win, and run a world-record. There a fewer drugs for men---I think---as there are for women, so, it is not exactly to a man's advantage. Hicham El Guerrouge, I believe, did not take any enhancements, medical aids, at all. He was born with a spry, light frame, the perfect physique, and he trained unquestionably HARD---to the point of tears (sobbing) it has been said. It was willpower that got him to the top. Look at Jacob Ingebrigtsen. Sheer willpower, courage, and strength. And good, if not great, genes. Clean. Let them keep their records. Someone will break them---cleanly (more advanced training techniques, faster tracks, better spikes, etc..). I believe that Kelly Hodgkinson, and Athing Mu, either, can do it, in time.

[@masterjediluke8680]

I know for a FACT that El Guerrouge was doped. Please stop saying he is clean.

[@ronniejohnson196]

Show's what You know or Don't know about Women. Many Women of Almost Every Nationality Have a "moustache"! Open Your Eyes and Observe instead of making uninformed Accusations.

[@pigslefats]

@@masterjediluke8680 Point to the medical tests please. Would like to read them

[@robynholliday4794]

This is a man

[@Fatta007]

Thats a dude

[@CommonSense9eleven]

dude, what about learning how to pronounce name correctly? such a shame

[@Cowboy0707]

most obviously cheated record

[@bjorneriksson6480]

that is a man