The Incredibles - No Capes

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[@agentdeputyleon8933]

Is it just me or do I have a funny stupid reason that they all died because a invisible villan or hero just made it look like that, I mean it all of these look like they were planed.

[@AnthonyLeachman-sc6es]

​@@agentdeputyleon8933😠....No capes that why

[@agentdeputyleon8933]

@AnthonyLeachman-sc6es that's just me man and it's a joke, I know it was the capes, anyways, about capes, how come batman and superman get a pass.

[@AnthonyLeachman-sc6es]

Incredibles 🗝

[@WhatName007]

Love how lots of superhero durability is litterly normal human like in incredibles universe lol 😂

[@Mysteriousmachine1]

It’s interesting how one of Edna’s most iconic lines is “I never look back darling, it distracts from the now” and yet she remembers the exact date of death for superheroes her suit designs killed. What’s more, these tragic histories actively informed her decisions for designing new superhero costumes. I guess the real message of Edna was to take from the past what helps the future, but nothing more.

[@blackhand9581]

She also took safety into account. Her adamant refusal against capes wasn't because of a fashion decision. It was because it proved, time and time again, that it posed a danger.

[@Mysteriousmachine1]

@@blackhand9581 yeah, that’s fair. Sometimes philosophy can get in the way of basic practical reason.

[@Сайтамен]

​@@estebangutierrez160 After repeating them 7 times which costs 6 more lives...

[@frankspick7544]

to be fair that could be that she design those suits before anybody died so@@Сайтамен

[@alecLogan]

@@Сайтамен In fairness, the only two that got dates were within a year of each other, and it could be presumed that she tried recalling after the (chronological) first two established a pattern and didn’t get calls back/wasn’t taken seriously.

[@CascadianRanger]

I never considered this until rewatching this movie a couple weeks ago, but her cape motto isnt just as a designer. She likely blames herself for every single one of these deaths, which is why shes so adamant about no capes. Her earlier designs haunt her

[@jovalin5939]

It also foreshadowed the fact that Syndrome's cape proves to be part of his undoing at the end of the movie.

[@KaiserAfini]

She never comprises on safety for her clients. Suits that protect them from harm, from hurting themselves with their own powers, trackers so they can be rescued and so on. She cuts no corners both in style and safety.

[@TheKyrix82]

To be fair...all creator's earlier designs haunt them

[@haihuynh8772]

@@KaiserAfiniCould have gone with trackers that don't beep loudly to the whole room but can't have everything.

[@Kryptnyt]

@@TheKyrix82 true but not all creators are partially culpable for the deaths of friends as a result of their creations

[@hmk5123]

Not all heroes wear capes. Edna: All heroes should NEVER wear capes.

[@SpoonyJeffUK]

I want an Edna movie! :D

[@joshhorn8283]

I agree! If I was a Super I would follow the rules and not wear a cape!

[@victorspell1]

​@@SpoonyJeffUKI will pay a $20 ticket for that!

[@KittyCat-sp3jm]

Well she does have a point....

[@jackpierce1724]

Like Superman, Batman and J'onn J'onzz

[@Winter-The-Masquerade]

What's funny about this is that the No Capes rule was actually a result of technical limitations at the time. See having things being all flooly like capes or long hair was a MASSIVE pain in the ass to animated. That's why Violet has so little screen time in the first film her long hair part of her character but it meant that her screen time had to be cut to avoid animating her because of her long hair. This is also why she has so much more time in the second film because CGI has some a long way since then and it was a lot easier to animate her hair properly. However, instead of just having it where all the heroes we saw had no capes even though it's an iconic part of the Superhero Genre, Brad Bird decided to play into this idea and came up with the joke that capes got heroes killed for stupid reasons that could actually happen and used that as a Brick Joke for Syndrome's death later in the film when his cape is got in the jet turbine. Of course this meant they had to get around Syndrome's cape which is why we get so many up close shots of him and why he doesn't appear properly until the half way point of the film. Notice that in opening of the film Buddy has only a minute or two of screen time. It's because his cape was something the animators had to work around. Just a fun bit of trivia.

[@TheKoriKasai]

This is absolutely fascinating, thank you for sharing. I had no idea about any of this. I appreciate when people who have to do limitations in something like a game or movie add a canonical reason to why so.

[@戴劭名-z8p]

Okay, but how did you get this knowledge? Are you an animator or sth?

[@DTheAustralian]

The part about Violet being hard to animate might be why she has the power of invisibility. It’s easier to include a hard-to-animate character in on the fun when she doesn’t need to be animated half the time.

[@Winter-The-Masquerade]

@@戴劭名-z8p A little Bird told me. :) In all seriousness though Brad Bird himself said that was the case, that they realized early on that capes were a pain in the ass to animated in CGI so they decided against. It's mentioned on TV Tropes which is where I first heard about it and did some fact checking and sure enough it was true.

[@rebb9890]

​@@Winter-The-Masquerade"Batman The Animated Series"

[@SilitongaProduction]

Ironically, cape is what killed Syndrome. Every superheroes died to a cape ain’t so lucky

[@terencecaronan1458]

​@@TheUrbanGaze oh damn

[@williamfincher2260]

I think he made the suit himself. He did when he was young.

[@staringcorgi6475]

@@TheUrbanGazei don’t think so bc syndrome would be so wealthy and inventive that he could design a suit himself

[@Kira22558]

Yeah..

[@Kira22558]

​@@TheUrbanGazeor she doesn't care.

[@mattaldana2021]

I like how in the lego Incredibles game, Edna actually calls you out for choosing a cape when creating a custom character.

[@ciarangleeson2880]

I like how it makes the dead supers playable characters.

[@ammash3000]

Stratogale’s death really gets me. Such a horrible way to die and she was just a high schooler according to some sources… adds insult to injury that it probably caused the jet turbine to fail entirely and doom the plane to crashing, adding fuel to the anti-superhero movement…

[@secretblue0290]

The human body is so fragile. I mean have you seen pictures of the aftermath of jet turbine accidents? I have, and they're not pretty, but looking at it, I don't see how that would cause the turbine to fail

[@ammash3000]

@@secretblue0290 A *bird* can cause a jet turbine to fail

[@spade8094]

The funny thing is I'd probably see something like this in the boys

[@ammash3000]

@@spade8094 …You did not just make a comparison between “The Incredibles” and “The Boys”…

[@spade8094]

@@ammash3000 yes, I'd see a supe(r), get its body shriveled and sliced leading to a plane crash, in the boys

[@MikeSparkC]

I can see why Peter Parker didn't want Miles Morales to wear a cape

[@Superemie401]

Peter must have watched this movie.

[@mathiaslienafa789]

I honestly think it’s wholsome from Peter to want that Miles Morales was in security in his future Spiderman job

[@brandonlyon730]

Spider-man doesn’t look good in a cape regardless who is wearing the suits.

[@JazzyPantsINC]

It’s disrespectful, man

[@santiagocamilojimenezjimen1647]

​@@brandonlyon730well, unlimited's short cobweb cape looked good

[@daguroswaldson257]

As one who works in a factory, I agree with Edna because any loose clothing or long hair can prove hazardous in a work environment and in the superhero business where your environment is to be taken into consideration, for superhero PPE, NO CAPES!

[@Tank50us]

yeah, it's one thing if the cape has some function to it (for example, Batmans cape in the Nolen films, where it allows him to glide), but if there's no function.... NO CAPES!

[@cristhianramirez6939]

@@Tank50us Also as a shield against fire for example

[@RMJ1984]

In war as well. There is a reason why soldiers have all their hair cut off.

[@txgunguy2766]

There was a famous photo in Life magazine in 1943 of Hollywood actress Veronica Lake with her long, curly, blonde hair accidentally caught in a drill press during a publicity photo shoot.

[@foxymetroid]

​@@RMJ1984I think it has more to do with standardization and making the hair easier to clean, though female soldiers don't shave their hair.

[@DigimontamerB]

Once is an isolated incident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern. This woman has FIVE examples.

[@ciarangleeson2880]

You skipped four.

[@isavenewspapers8890]

@@ciarangleeson2880Actually, you are allowed to say a sequence of numbers without it being a counting sequence. It's not against the law or anything.

[@TheDMan2003]

What would one call five times?

[@isavenewspapers8890]

@@TheDMan2003 A pattern, like three. But, you know, stronger.

[@ThorDude]

​@@TheDMan2003A guarantee

[@joshhorn8283]

Fun Fact:Edna Mode is voice by the director of The Incredibles! Brad Bird!

[@SpoonyJeffUK]

Oh wow that's quite cool, Edna could have her own spin off show to be fair

[@joshhorn8283]

@@SpoonyJeffUK Great idea!

[@ammash3000]

IIRC The way he got the role was by demonstrating for the casting team how he wanted her to speak… he was so on point they just gave it to him 😂

[@kibaanazuka332]

​@ammash3000 Lily Tomlin was Brad Bird's first choice for Edna. She came in either for an audition or to do the actual recording and she said that the demo tape Brad Bird did was really good and that he should voice her instead.

[@dodecahedron1]

@@kibaanazuka332 he gave an example of what he thought she should sound like and she responded with "what do you need me for, you got it already"

[@ShUrIkEn2558]

Edna: No capes! Superman: *Whistling*

[@eugenekrabs2403]

Put Superman in the same scenario as all those other Superheroes who died because of a cape and he'd be fine, unless he was suffering from the effects of Kryptonite

[@ShUrIkEn2558]

@@eugenekrabs2403 That's what I'm saying like bro what's gonna kill if he only got one

[@SinarBaru-bp4jx]

Batman, robin, batgirl, supeman, supergirl, martian manhunter, dr fate, captain marvrl shazam, ras al ghul, ares: whistling

[@marko-gj1uj]

Superman's cape is something more. It can help the person without Powers and one comic had Superman using the cape to protect the person from falling to the Earth from OUTER SPACE and Superman held the person.

[@davidgordillo6583]

@Shadow_outofcontextdeath of Superman movie: “you sure about that”

[@spiffyn00bz]

did Edna just ever think to make the capes easily detachable?

[@AzureMoebius22]

Either she might have been more new to costume designing at the time, or she just was not keen on chancing another cape-related fatality.

[@spiffyn00bz]

so my guess is your later answer, she just finally was like "This just isn't a good idea anymore". Maybe when technology was less developed capes were less of a risk

[@thewanderingwriter4448]

@@spiffyn00bzI see it as the capes being her early designs and then one by one all the cape-wearing superheroes got into these accidents within the span of a few years. Gosh, it’s horrible to think how many times she hears news of these heroes’ deaths back to back to back and she had to scramble to recall so many others just to stop the accidents from happening anymore.

[@insertscreechingskeletonhe2792]

Im pretty sure you wouldn't think of detaching your cape when you need to detach it within The 3 seconds of life you might have left because if you noticed the slowest death was from the tornado at it was barely 5 seconds

[@AzureMoebius22]

@@insertscreechingskeletonhe2792 I think the idea was a cape that would detach on its own if enough force was supplied.

[@lucianoosorio5942]

“Cape caught in a turbine.” Foreshadowed. I guess strato girl met her biggest fan

[@AzureMoebius22]

And I thought my comparing Mandalorians to Asians came off in poor taste.

[@tigertoxins584]

Holy crap that's dark, and I'm laughing my ass off

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@AzureMoebius22 What? Why would you compare Mandalorians to Asians?

[@Wario_B]

💀

[@creativegamer_03]

nah it was her biggest turbine

[@alexroberts237]

The Incredibles History: Wearing A Cape Is Almost Certain Death. Do You Remember? Thunderhead: November 15th 1958, Cape Snagged On The Missile Fin. Stratogale: April 23rd 1957, Cape Caught In The Jet Turbine. Meta Man: Express Elevator. Dyna Guy: Snag On Takeoff. Splashdown: Sucked Into A Vortex. Syndrome: Cape Caught In His Own Jet Turbine. NO CAPES!

[@joshhorn8283]

Yes! Indeed!

[@Shockwave117yt]

Funny enough Syndrome is the only supervillain on this list

[@thatonepipsqueak887]

Syndrome was NOT a Hero, not in the slightest...

[@mr.awesome6011]

Thanks now I don't need to watch the video🙄

[@ashlynn6485]

Superman: got killed by a Kryptonite Bomb!

[@dominothealphaandomega5512]

Blown up Shredded Crushed by an Elevator Strangled and possibly Decapitated [But that’s just a theory, depends on how fast he was flying and how hard he was snagged, it’d take a LOT of power for his head to just… Come off… like that.) And sucked into a water tornado… Just now realized how Hilariously Fucked up that entire scene is, God I love This Movie

[@mdalos0624]

Looks like dyna guy got his neck snapped

[@DestructiveDave1900]

How was that possible? What, did someone supposedly "glue his cape" to the ground on purpose? :3

[@dazzag371]

@@mdalos0624 nope

[@fadillah6014]

@@DestructiveDave1900 probably stuck on something, probably a vehicle, debris or maybe manhole

[@julianfalken8861]

I mean its not confirmed they all died right? I mean the girl yes shes 100% dead but the others could of lived with a little bit of luck and plot armor

[@Agent_3141]

Man I never realized how many brutal deaths were in Incredibles. You have this scene (btw the girl caught in a Jet turbine was just a teenager), then the scene showing how Syndrome basically committed mass genocide on heroes. Really messed up

[@robotx9285]

You got a point, Incredibies 1 probably has the highest death count of all of Pixar' movies...Besides Cars 2...Maybe.

[@zwergz1122]

They were killed by Syndrome

[@HOTD108_]

​@@robotx9285I love that Cars 2 of all movies has the highest Pixar body count lmao.

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

La de la turbina de jet es la fatality de homelander

[@NathanielStobbs]

Explains why Incredibles 2 is garbage.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Me when I see a kid laughing at Skibidi Toilet on their phone: 0:15

[@spooky882]

Good job gumball fan, you're so good punching a child. Everyone is proud of you

[@IssacRuesga]

little Harch Depend on what kind the original which it has story or those crimes that just ruined the reputation

[@spooky882]

Wow bro, you are so sigma! Let's punch someone because your opinion doesn't match theirs! You are much more mature than skibidi toilet kid

[@spooky882]

And amazing gumball fans are the most normal and not disgusting people!

[@TheHandThatMocked]

The feds after watching me rig a senior center with plastic explosives 0:15

[@eugenekrabs2403]

Well I guess Bruce Wayne must've learned something from Edna in his later year as the Beyond Batsuit doesn't feature a cape

[@SinarBaru-bp4jx]

Dick grayson nightwing was first time learned from edna

[@BlossomPathOnStage15]

Original Batsuit cape was designed to be use as a glider and misdirection against long range weaponry. Beyond suit can turn invisible and retractable wings for gliding and flight. So it's more like in his time the technology not exist yet so he had to rely on other alternatives.

[@niikokun5326]

@@BlossomPathOnStage15 I believe there was also a late instance before the Beyond suit wherein Batman used his cape for misdirection against incoming fire, and said fire went through his cape and ended up hitting either Nightwing or one of the Robins.

[@triplecrosscounter]

Batman actually used to use the cape as a shield and for a short time attached sharp pieces of kevlar to the ends of it allowing him to use it as a weapon as well.

[@Mr_BrokenKeyboard]

I'm sure a lot of his suits had detachable capes. You can't have batman's level of planning and overlook capes.

[@the_mackshack]

“I never look back darling, it distracts from the now” Although she’s talking about fashion, that pretty much sums up the main theme of the movie. Mr. Incredible was so fixated on his past, trying to relive the glory days, that he was missing out on the joys to be had with his family in the moment. Him wanting to patch his old suit, or design something that felt classic totally exemplifies that. In a way, seems like him accepting the new suit, the one that his whole family now wears, shows his growth and appreciation for being their husband and father, while still acknowledging what makes them special. On the other hand, Syndrome was also fixated on the past, unable to move on from the obsessions and betrayal he felt as a kid. And in the end, it was the cape, a symbol of that past, that ultimately led to his demise.

[@BlaneNostalgia]

well said

[@nurizyanbintizamani5426]

Well said indeed

[@joshhorn8283]

I’m not gonna lie Edna, but being a Super without a cape, great idea!

[@SpoonyJeffUK]

I want a Edna movie! :D

[@joshhorn8283]

@@SpoonyJeffUK me too! But right now, Pixar’s making a movie called Elemental!

[@SpoonyJeffUK]

@@joshhorn8283 oh I saw the adverts for that, not sure what my feelings are but knowing them it will be good 😁

[@joshhorn8283]

@@SpoonyJeffUK to me, it looks a little bit like Inside Out and Soul!

[@Ghaztf0r3verDR0ID]

@@joshhorn8283"do you remember thinserhead??"

[@kittenclysm116]

You gotta love how Edna not only remembers each superhero that lost their lives because of capes, but she remembers each date and exactly how it happened

[@vexedlex8230]

She probably had the argument multiple times with the designers who were inadvertently killing heroes. Given that Mr Incredible's first suit, and Elastigirl's (both made by Edna) never had capes, I'd wager she foresaw the danger they'd pose and memorised each time she was proven right.

[@kittenclysm116]

@@vexedlex8230 And, although he wasn't a superhero, she can put Syndrome on that list😄

[@Thornskade]

And she wasn't present so she remembers newspaper articles and probably autopsy reports

[@estebangutierrez160]

​@@kittenclysm116I do like the theory that Edna Mode designed Syndrome's with the cape because she knew he was evil.

[@kittenclysm116]

@@estebangutierrez160 I didn't intend to make it a theory, but that"s a cool thought

[@adleranderson6797]

DC Comic's the Dollar Bill! Cape caught in a revolving door and shot to death. NO CAPES!!

[@JTHPADF2K2]

0:15 I always laugh at that part.

[@georgsgrants9925]

The dentist bills must be expensive though

[@harbour2118]

That literally sounds like stock audio XD

[@philhartman1948]

​@@harbour2118it is

[@sadagastgaming1392]

"Ouhahaha !" *Punch* "Aw !"

[@markeithmiller650]

Same here 🤣🤣🤣

[@arnoldschpeiker7887]

I liked that in the graphic novel Watchmen the first Night Owl explained in his in-universe autobiography a similar tale about why he didn’t wear a cape. For those who don’t know, a caped crime-fighter named Dollar Bill tried stopping a bank robbery by rushing through a revolving door, only for his cape to get snagged and delaying him just enough that the robbers had time to shoot him.

[@dudelebowski9746]

Came here just to write this lol Also the best part is that Dollar Bill actually never wanted to wear a cape, that was an idea of the bank who signed him as a testimonial

[@jonmcinnis1645]

@@dudelebowski9746you do have a point and if you think about it the overarching plot for this movie shows lot of huge similarities to Watchmen.

[@dudelebowski9746]

@@jonmcinnis1645 Always thought, such a hugely influential comic book

[@jonmcinnis1645]

@@dudelebowski9746 yeah and you basically realize the Incredibles has the same plot as watchmen

[@dudelebowski9746]

@@jonmcinnis1645 It's like a family friendly version of Watchmen meets the Fantastic Four

[@GPBA89]

If you want a superhero uniform made right, it's best not to argue with Edna. She's a professional who's been doing this for years. She knows exactly what she's talking about.

[@vexn3699]

It makes sense Edna feels strongly about the capes. She designed those outfits, so maybe there's a little guilt in those heroes' fates. What's undeniable is that she learned a lot since then: sure, you need to look dapper and flashy, but being able to do your job without your freaking outfit getting in the way is the most important part of your suit. The fact that she can also make them frictionless, able to become invisible, practically indestructible, fresh to wear despite being made of what looks like very tight spandex, AND can be washed in a washing machine... That's just the icing on the cake.

[@blaisen.3239]

I actually respect Edna,she’s a mastermind at what she does,and though she doesn’t show it,she truly cares(in a non romantic way) for Mr. Incredibles safety;even though she’s stated she never “looks back” she probably does so because of the past mistakes she’s made and the suits she’s fabricated for hero’s which resulted in deaths. Honestly, though she’s absolutely hilarious, she’s a very intelligent and very caring woman,hence why she vigorously put Mr incredibles idea of a cape out of discussion,she doesn’t want to see him die.Quite frankly she possibly cares for every hero,it’s why she makes suits!

[@q-tip4723]

Batman was smart enough for his to actually serve several purposes. Among them include, but are not limited to: *Bullistic resistance *Fire resistance *Glider *Shield from explosions And on top of that, it has a quick-detach mechanism in the event it gets snagged on something

[@joshuafocht1044]

At least some heroes with capes like Batman were smart enough to have their capes detachable to avoid dangerous situations that could get them snagged and killed. Not so much for Syndrome as his cape was fully etched into his outfit resulting in his death.

[@q-tip4723]

@@joshuafocht1044 Funny you say that. I don't know if you are familiar with this fan theory, but it is a rather popular and totally plausible one. It states that Edna Mode saw through Syndrome's BS and bravado and made the cape on purpose so that it will catch up to him one day.

[@joshuafocht1044]

@@q-tip4723 I never payed attention to fan theories all that much. I always assumed that Syndrome designed his outfit himself and that he should have been aware of the "no capes" rule for supers and so he ended up fully attaching his cape to his outfit when it should have been a detachable one.

[@magicaltour1]

Batman also used it as part of his strategy to convince criminals he was an actual bat. They’d spread out to resemble Bat wings.

[@romelrosas7781]

Finally someone knew about the Emergency Cape Ejector, brought by Batman when cape gets caught in a shark's jaw. A little something from the early demonstration.😅😊👍🖖

[@Ultriac301]

So THAT'S why the Batman Beyond costume has no cape!😅

[@overlordmgcover2262]

Another reason were the rocket boots.

[@IronGiant-vw2tu]

Tbf Batman in some continuities does have the cape detachable

[@BaronVladHarkonnen]

I always had a theory that Edna designed Syndrome’s costume at his request claiming to be a new superhero, but she was able to catch on to the fact he was up to no good and deliberately sabotaged his costume by including a cape in the design

[@keyspirits95]

Now that's an amazing theory! It'd make Edna the crucial asset to his defeat

[@danamarvelstar]

0:19 there is something about that line delivery and the timing of the video that gets me 😂

[@Tomfoolery_Man]

0:28 sweet lord that gotta be the most gruesome thing in a Pixar movie, along with Syndrome’s death

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

She was only a highschooler too. Only Brad Bird can get away with starting a Disney movie with an attempted suicide, throw a 16 year old into a jet turbine and have his villain commit genocide. The man has the super power to get away with anything he wants.

[@ciarangleeson2880]

You ain’t wrong about that. I mean, the thing that inspired him to make a movie of The Iron Giant was the fact that his sister had recently died from a gunshot!

[@snapclub8751]

It’s amazing how Superman and Batman hardly have any trouble with their capes.

[@SinarBaru-bp4jx]

Zack snyder superman and batman had his capes pull by enemy

[@ATAS18.]

And in The Batman, Riddler's henchman caught Batman's Cape, choking him.

[@bighand1530]

@@SinarBaru-bp4jx That one scene in Man of Steel

[@missmarshmallow5775]

DCaU (Superman TAS i believe) had a scene when Bruce almost got crushed by newspaper press by getting his cape snagged... Also the Official 75 years anniversary of Superman animation shows how supes used Bizarro's cape against him... It's just that this depends on writers and/or animators. Batman's cape has actual utility beyond cosmetics, unlike how most depictions show superman's outfit.

[@Tesseract.2012]

At least Batman’s lucky his cape never gets caught on the back of the Batcycle or Bat Pod which in real life is a safety concern for actors or stunt riders.

[@MegaManJake]

I don't understand why 0:15 is always so FUNNY to me. It has no right to be, but it IS. XD

[@davonwx]

LMFAOOOOOOOO nah fr 😭🤣

[@Waltersop]

To think this would foreshadow syndrome's death. This movie has such a perfect script.

[@kidhalloween8570]

0:35 was that the sound of the neck breaking?

[@SpoonyJeffUK]

Yeah pretty sure bud 😬

[@DestructiveDave1900]

wonder how his cape got stuck to the ground?

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob]

​@@DestructiveDave1900I wonder how it didn't tear

[@jacobrichardson1952]

​@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNoobeither glued or stapled.

[@jonnycarcano]

I heard it too.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Love how bob looks at the cape as a fashion choice when he is the hero and Edna sees the cape practically even as the costumer designer. I respect using capes if they help with flying or as a lightweight shield.

[@SuperGamefreak18]

Yeah Batman tends to have a good example of a cape especially more recently.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

@@SuperGamefreak18 he uses it for flying and slowing his descent. I think of john wick and kingpin with the concept of bulletproof fabric. Or if you could, do it like legion when angels had wings made of metal and were bulletproof.

[@retrogamelover2012]

Pity that nobody ever thought to try and have capes that worked like those clip-on ties, for certain emergencies like that.

[@TheHammerGuy94]

For most superheroes, capes are just a way to make the wearer look large and intimidating. The way bob is thinking of capes is literally form and no function. Meanwhile as a super suit designer, she thinks of form AND function. Function usually follows form. And other than the flashy appeal, it just adds a weak point for movement and combat.

[@jeffreymodesitt3345]

I think the latter point is used to explain Superman’s cape in the comics, it’s made from some super durable Kryptonian fabric so it can be used to shield people in an emergency situation, sometimes it’s just normal cloth though so it’s one of those things that fluctuates based on the writer

[@youtubedeletesmychannels2329]

This was a good movie. It really helped sell the whole no capes thing at the end when syndrome died. I still remember fans anticipating the Incredibles sequel thinking he would come back. I’m like bruh what as a bone fragment? I mean I’d like to see syndrome back as much as everyone else but how do you come back from being pulped? Maybe it’s a decoy or body double apart of the storyline who knows but then that just ruins the original ending. Then again they do that with lots of movies nowadays

[@noneofyourbuisness1679]

To be fair, superhero comics are rife with people coming back from the dead, to the point where it's pretty much a joke and the death of any major character has little impact on the fanbase. That said, The Incredibles seems to take place in a more 'logical' world, where super powers still exist, but there are less sci-fy or fantastical forces at play (if any). Makes sense that Syndrome wouldn't come back if they weren't going to implement any of that.

[@youtubedeletesmychannels2329]

@@noneofyourbuisness1679 but what’s the theory on how he would come back? I don’t know about any jet engine deaths in comics that characters come back from

[@noneofyourbuisness1679]

@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329No idea. I'm not saying your wrong, just pointing out that the theory does have some support, albeit pretty weakly. As for jet engine deaths specifically, I can't name any. I believe there have been several points where a character has had to form a new body for their soul to inhabit or take over the body of someone else. If I remember correctly, Animal Man (DC) was killed and came back in the form of a Triceratops to return to his family, where his daughter - who had powers similar to him, due to her being a vessel of the Red or something - formed a new body identical to his old one. I feel that wouldn't have been necessary if his original body wasn't in some kind of irreparable state.

[@youtubedeletesmychannels2329]

@@noneofyourbuisness1679 so I’m like what’s the fans theory to bring him back besides flashbacks.

[@noneofyourbuisness1679]

@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329No clue, you're the one that brought it up. If I had to guess, perhaps a less 'evil twin' route might've been digitally copying his mind?

[@williamfincher2260]

Unless it has a a function aside from being an decorative accessory, a free flowing cape is More trouble than it's worth.

[@Midnight-Starfish]

Kinda weird that Bob is perfectly fine dismissing the deaths of his friends for the sake of a flowing piece of fabric. Even really gruesome ones like being sucked into a jet engine.

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

But it is kinda in character. Bob's thing is he's caught up with the romanticized image of being a Super sort of like Syndrome. Practical or not, nothing makes you look more like a superhero than a cape.

[@AdolphusEudora]

Looking at his NSA file (found in the bonus content of the DVD for the second film) he has lower intelligence compared to ElastiGirl and his personality includes being carried away by his emotions. So yes, as one of the replies said it is rather in character for him...

[@cupoftea3499]

I was gonna be like "Well, he might not have been friends with all of them." But then I remembered all of them except for splashdown were at his wedding.

[@Chicky_Lumps]

​@@AdolphusEudora It seems like both Mr. And Mrs. Incredible are intelligent, but Mr. Incredible's judgment is more easily clouded by getting lost in nostalgia.

[@chuckingreaper8654]

Another thing to mention is Mr.Incredible was Super of the year and renowned as a celebrity of sorts in that community. He has some of the best stats of any Super around. Everyone that died had much weaker durabilities than him do it makes sense his ego and confidence would argue for style over practicality.

[@connorclemmons8698]

I’m actually surprised how popular she is considering she’s the reason why all these heroes died. You’d think she’d be looked down upon and her costume designs later rejected, yet she’s clearly got enough favoritism in the hero community to literally turn her home into a fortress if need be (referring to the machine gun that popped down from the ceiling, not to mention the laser security when Bob first visited.

[@CrysJaL]

Note she doesn't specify they were her clients, just that they died due to their capes.

[@joaobatistaperinjunior953]

The superheroes probably wanted the cape themselves, mr incredible himself went there wanting one, can't blame edna for them dying

[@Santabandicoot]

If I recall correctly, according to the superhero databank or whatever it was called on the second disc of the DVD, Splashdown was never actually confirmed to be dead. Instead he was listed as Missing In Action with the reason listed as possible suit malfunction.

[@crissalazar8870]

Batman: uses his cape to fight, stealth and glide. Wonder how an interaction between Edna and Bruce would go

[@jacksonconley5117]

Every time I hear that line, I burst out laughing.😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SpoonyJeffUK]

I know it's too funny, I was saying in a different person's comment that she needs her own film 🤣

[@blackshadow37_Wraith]

i just rewatched the movie and all the supers that died through costume malfunction were actually present AT bob par/ mr incredible and helen par/ elastigirls wedding minus splashdown

[@dazzag371]

They were killed by syndrome

[@Ghaztf0r3verDR0ID]

0:36 the funny part

[@kidz4p509]

“Splashdown”, sounds like the name of an incompetent hero.

[@profchaos91]

"the fun part" shows a man strangled to death and suckes into a tornado 😂

[@lysanderfilipe6786]

Batman to the other heroes: shoulder made yours detachable

[@ryuuronin9852]

Mr Incredible: Why not make it a tear away? Like they do for TV show outfits. You can have the style and if it gets caught it'll just tear off. I mean what were they made of before that kept super powered beings from being able to tear them due to pulling the other way anyways? Edna: * slow realization *

[@Vigriff]

That is a rather good question to ask, what *were* they made of?

[@Dmclives41]

Apparently mega mesh

[@scrappy2082]

i remember reading an old tumblr post that theorizing that Edna may have designed their outfits and is secretly feeling super remorseful about their deaths since her designs technically played a hand in them

[@gor9027]

Edna definitely designed Bruce and Terry's suit for "Batman Beyond."

[@llamareactionstudios7208]

Ironically, Dynaguy, the superhero Mr. Incredible wanted a cape inspired by, was one of the people killed by his cape.

[@ninoortega7946]

You know it's funny that she said no capes because if you look superheroes, and vigilantes who wear capes; they often get it snagged on something.

[@Gabi-dd7bq]

I remember reading a theory that Edna was the one who designed Syndrome’s custom, and purposefully added a cape to his custom when she realized he was evil.

[@peytoncard330]

I do recall when bane grabbed Batman by the cape .

[@endamcnabola]

0:12 I keep forgetting the movie is set in the 60s.

[@peytoncard330]

This reminds when doomsday graves Superman by the cape

[@SmashFever]

I just realized that because of Syndrome at the end of the film we have somewhat confirmation that Stratagale was probably not the only one who didn’t make it out alive of that particular situation…

[@adammartinez8061]

Because after syndrome got sucked in, the jet went 💥💥💥💥…….right…..

[@sunsetvibe1063]

Edna clearly hasn’t seen Doctor Strange

[@captaintalon4485]

To be fair Strange's cape can literally just leave him if it needs to

[@jaredruff9823]

But Doctor Strange doesn't wear a cape. It's a cloak. Also, his Cloak has a mind of its own.

[@sunsetvibe1063]

@@jaredruff9823 yeah, that’s the joke

[@TheGoldNinja101]

Dr. Strange survived a jet turbine, but his cloak did not survive.

[@eduardomagana3858]

That is a cloak. Not a cap. Big difference

[@zhengwenyu1587]

Unless you are Batman with an utility cape, NO CAPES!

[@frogmouth2]

Disney wouldn’t include a scene nowadays where a bunch of characters quickly die in a slapstick montage.

[@dannsthamann195]

0:15 what I wanna do when I go in public and see a little kid on their iPad laughing at Skibidi Toilet

[@DeadhunterThe]

When she figures out how to make a material that can fly, shapeshift, camouflage, and can turn into a virtually indestructible armor shell through sheer willpower and survival instinct like Spawn's cape can, THEN Edna MIGHT consider changing her mind about this, but until then......NO CAPES!!!

[@sonrouge]

I'd have loved to watch a "discussion" between her and Batman on capes.

[@stealthynaxo]

"Ok, what about Spawn-."" "Oh here we go! Everytime one of you wants a cape, you bring up Al. Listen he is a special case dammit! So excuse me for not having the devil's touch!"

[@DJB3lfry]

"Thunderhead died horribly because of his cape" "Yeah but, like, he was stupid lol."

[@kidz4p509]

“Thunderhead” is a play on “dunderhead”, and dunderheads are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier(s).

[@LennyCvijanovic]

@@kidz4p509😂😂😂😅😅😅

[@isavenewspapers8890]

In case it wasn't clear, Bob is implying that Thunderhead let his cape get him in trouble *because* he was stupid.

[@Terastas]

I only just now noticed that Thunderhead gets yoinked out of his shoes. That's a nice touch, especially for a blink-and-you'll-miss-it gag.

[@florpnorp2482]

You have to appreciate that her reasoning isn’t with fashion it’s with the safety of the hero’s wearing the suits

[@patrickspencer6550]

0:37 As Shrek would say to Donkey from 2001: *NO CAKES!*

[@eaglewolffox6275]

Terry McGinnis from Batman Beyond seems to heed Edna's Advice.

[@eugenekrabs2403]

Bruce was the one to listen to Edna's advice The suit didn't have a cape when Terry began to use it

[@JadirMora-y1p]

But actullay terry mcginnis suit doesn't have capes, but the suit does have wings.

[@pinkcake4229]

Edna. Was. Right. Wearing a cape is too dangerous for superhero! By the way, my favorite line from this movie is "NO CAPES!"

[@fine_ol_chap]

Stratogale was by far the most gruesome death out of any of the others. Well, there's Syndrome who died practically the same way, but I'm talking about the others.

[@joaquinfranzpayumo8460]

And to think she was just a teenage girl.

[@adammartinez8061]

And apparently if getting Sucked in, the results is Severe trauma or death such as Getting fragmented or decapitation or Dismembered or disintegrated 😳😳😳😳……

[@hopeoconnor1626]

@@fine_ol_chap And to think she’s still young and has her whole life ahead of her.

[@jeannguyen3199]

Not only that, but they're also impossible to take seriously these days. Except for Batman, he makes it work.

[@hopeoconnor1626]

Me: Not all superheroes wear capes Edna: All superheroes should NEVER wear capes

[@MaxPerullo-hd7tu]

Finally a fashion designer who’s main (or at least secondary) concern is practicality

[@ciarangleeson2880]

And safety!

[@Doctor_Idiot]

Superman with homemade suit : "am i a joke to ya?"

[@joshuafocht1044]

This is an excellent example of foreshadowing for what happens to Syndrome near the end of the movie as he had a cape fully etched into his outfit, as Edna puts it "no capes!"

[@IronGiant-vw2tu]

One of the characters who died in this scene also got caught in a jet turbine

[@Yonkage-ik5qb]

The dangers of capes is a direct reference to a scene in Watchmen (many other tropes from which The Incredibles is spoofing in the first place). A masked vigilante named Dollar Bill was attempting to stop a gang of bank robbers when his cape got caught in a revolving door, allowing them to shoot him.

[@darbyk]

0:15 what the hell was with that super deep laugh😂 I’d injure my throat trying to go that deep

[@delsingray5923]

Girl flew in front of a jet engine. She was toast regardless

[@zirconviper]

Edna: No capes! Spawn: Care to examine mine!???

[@davidhill2020]

In the wedding scene, you can see all of those supers sitting next to each other. The Incredibles was a very dark movie with a high body count, the direct opposite being The Incredibles 2.

[@adammartinez8061]

Also I looked up what would have to happen for Stratogale…a superhero teenager…..to be good friends with Mr incredible and Elastigirl…..and the answer I got? Have to have looked up to them as a role model or mentor…..her death hurts even more now.

[@Glacial7]

I have and will always want a series set in the Incredibles universe before the events of the movies, so that we can get to know all the now-deceased superheroes and see what they were like in their prime

[@amutofan45]

This conversation almost sounds like two comic artists trying to design a new superhero comic

[@snaketooth0943]

I remember watching an interview on this website were Chris Hemsworth was talking about how, when playing Thor, he kept tripping up on his cape and the interviewer quoted this scene. When I told my dad what Chris Hemsworth said, he quoted the scene as well. I think this scene got some things about superheroes right.

[@hayleyyeager8008]

Some of them went to Bob’s wedding 😭😭😁

[@Zero-lc1yn]

I love that this film takes place in the late 50s/early 60s, it really plays into the whole No To Supers idea really well, as well as just having the 50s/60s aesthetic.

[@prod3130]

Watching Man of Steele and when I saw Zod thrashing Superman around by his cape I paused it to come here just to see Edna prove her point. No capes 😂😂

[@Mushpire]

Imagine being DynaGuy and flying off while you're cape was snagged to the ground, the force couldnt rip the cape or even jimmy it free and you're neck snapped.... I guess the fabric Edna uses is way too strong for its own good?

[@SpoonyJeffUK]

Yeah have a tab on either side that rips under pressure.. nifty 😀

[@tpmiranda]

Edna behaving like a true designer. Analysing modes of failure and removing detrimental elements at the same time that conjugates her client's needs and wants with technological and aesthetical principles.

[@AceLM92]

Funny to think how these Heroes could propel themselves forward with flight powers, but they can't stop themselves from being pulled backwards by a piece of cloth tangled in something

[@justvictorgodot]

Probably super cloth.

[@Blaze-hh7vw]

It's extremely ironically funny how in amazon prime's the boys, this is almost exactly what happened to homelander's cape during his fight against butcher and soldier boy 😂

[@TSamirT]

she really said "no cap bro"

[@JamesLandon]

I'd like to offer a rebuttal: Proper cape design should include the cape being able to detach from the outfit at any given time, to prevent such tragedies.

[@MagnustheDemon71]

Agreed it would be useful if a villian is hanging by your cape as you are flying very high and then you just detatch the cake and the villian falls to the ground

[@AzureMoebius22]

Edna might have been worried about the potential for said detachment feature to fail at the worst possible time, and as such just found it better to nix the cape altogether

[@benginaldclocker2891]

​@@AzureMoebius22 better safe than sorry I guess

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob]

Or maybe make the cape be as tall as your waist and not have it reach your heels

[@benginaldclocker2891]

@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob still, Edna wouldn't want to risk another death due to her trauma because of her designing capes, even if the chances are slim.

[@dale4039]

0:15 that laugh and the punch with the teeth flying out lmao every time

[@Avalon64]

wonder how Batman would talk to her..given he kinda NEEDS his cape lol

[@maybussell5099]

The saddest part of this for me is how she says Thunderhead was “good with kids” That tells me that he wasn’t just a customer to her.

[@IronGiant-vw2tu]

I like to imagine the superheroes would talk about their personal lives with Edna while she’s designing

[@darktooth4576]

“No capes!” Has the same energy as Toronto Tonto’s “NO CIGARETTES!” And i can’t unhear it.

[@StunnaGs]

Splashdown ended up getting splashed down🌪️🌊