The Insane Hypocrisy of Woke Activists - Peter Boghossian | heretics. 5

After my chat with Francis Foster from Triggernometry, I'm lucky to be able to interview controversial professor Peter Boghossian, who discusses what social justice warriors and activists actually mean by terms like peace and justice. We cover Israel-Hamas war, Gender ideology, climate change, Greta Thunberg - Left vs Right and more. Subscribe to Peter Boghossian: @drpeterboghossian
Follow him on twitter: / peterboghossian . While there, make sure to watch his Triggernometry (not spelt Trigonometry!) (Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin) video where they practice his street epistemology game known as Spectrum Street.
Also watch my interview with Francis Foster from Triggernometry Podcast: • Ricky Gervais vs JK Ro...
And Graham Linehan, who wrote IT Crowd and Father Ted, and was canceled for his gender critical beliefs about trans (transgender) - we consider him, Ricky Gervais and J K Rowling: • The World's Most Cance...
Thanks to the Battle of Ideas for the space, make sure to check out their events!: www.battleofideas.org.uk/
If you're a fan of Modern Wisdom (Chris Williamson), Triggernometry (Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin) & Diary of a CEO (Steven Bartlett), then Heretics is for you.
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Chapters:
0:00 What justice means
3:55 How to make people doubt
5:50 Why we are astounding (in a bad way)!
8:00 Andrew’s family when Palestinians die
11:00 Greta Thunberg’s Hypocrisy
13:20 Hitchens: You’re A Boring Person If You Do This
15:00 Postmodernism & Ryan Long Comedy
18:50 JK Rowling, the Substitution Hypothesis & Game of Thrones
21:30 Belief is Not Binary
24:00 Silly Ideas to be on Right Side of History
26:00 Peter Boghossian is Wrong About This
28:00 Artificial Intelligence, Morality & Richard Dawkins
32:00 Race vs IQ: What to do with controversial ideas?
35:10 John McWhorter & Sapir Whorf (Arrival Movie)
38:00 Yasmine Mohammed & Islam
40:05 The Right Won’t Discuss These Bad Men
42:30 The Kentler Experiment (Worst Thing Ever)
45:15 Purity Concepts
47:15 Stephen Fry & Water
48:15 Aliens: The New Culture War

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Who do you want to see on this new channel Heretics? And have you watched the first 4 episodes yet? Like this video, and let me know below.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Hi, Andrew. Please consider interviewing Alex Epstein (no relation!) regarding his *_I ❤️ fossil-fuels_* stance. He has had hilarious interactions at anti-fossil-fuel rallies.

[@juliej3155]

I would love to hear you interview Douglas Murray while he is in Israel.🇮🇱

[@Meoli55]

Julie Bindel

[@Meoli55]

Meghan Murphy

[@rebeccao8895]

Digging the new channel. Admiring you for having the balls to start it. Folks I’d like to see: David Starkey A pro-Brexit person A detransitioner Abraham Lincoln - just kidding Buck Angel

[@kaboom146]

It isn't just the existence of the far left or the far right. It's the absence of space in the center to ask questions and to compromise. It is awful for anyone who wants to solve problems.

[@ph8077]

The far-right was never a serious problem until the neo-Marxists captured all aspects of society inc crucially, the establishment. As a classical liberal, I never thought for one second that I would be in the same camp as fascists...& on some prevalent issues, there is definitely an intersection on the political Venn diagram. This is simply depressing.

[@ruminator3570]

Do you think prominent leftist KZbin channels like secular talk or Sam Seder or Vaush etc. are helping or hindering the shift to more rational and temperate discourse?

[@Perditions]

​@@ruminator3570So, yesterday, I listened to Alex O'Connor talking to Ben Shapiro. Ben was arguing that religion is a beneficial tool for cohesive society. Alex, was unconcerned about the utility of Christianity, when the truth of the matter is his priority. The implication of weighing beneficial effects of Christianity against the pursuit of truth appears lopsided. What I want to share though, is something Alex said. He says something like, "Now that I am an atheist, in order to have the superior society you would want, what would you have and do? Lie to my children about my belief in Christianity?" You can maybe see the problem. Even if Alex agreed that a Christian society would be better, Pandora's box is already opened. It's hard to see the benefit of requiring people to be dishonest about their beliefs. The Sam Sedars and Vaushes, and Hasans, should be free to spout nonsense. Or, I mean, people in general should be free to voice their opinions. We have to expect some will always be a bad influence. The question of whether they help or hinder the conversation isn't the problem, or at least, not them directly. Censoriousness, dishonest insular philosophies, tribal divisions, are aspects of the culture beyond these individuals. It needed to be dealt with when it was forming in 2014-2016, if that was even early enough. Best not to point out fingers at people we see as the problem. It's the nature and process of argument that's broken down. Everyone needs the freedom to be dumb and have dangerous ideas. How to fix the tribal nature of modernity? It can't be done. I don't think a policy could help either. Only we can individually, try to improve conversations in our own lives, where we can. I think, like AI, there's no sense in crying over spilled milk. We can only attempt to shape the puddle. I don't think a solution exists. I don't think too many people are even concerned. It's just culture playing out.

[@zeenuf00]

The 'center' has never done anything but betray normal people. Shove your 'center.'

[@zeenuf00]

​@ph8077 the 'far right' isn't a problem.

[@drpeterboghossian]

Thank you, Andrew. I really enjoyed our conversation.

[@a2dskins]

I'm confused when you said objectivity has gone by the waysaide in favor of subjectivity. As if we (humanity) have ever had, or if objectivity is even possible. Consensus seems to be the best that is possible. To truly know anything objectively, you would have to know everything. To know everything, would require observation of everything.

[@ObjectiveEthics]

Mr. Boghossian I very much appreciate your videos that you have posted regarding the "trans" issue. I believe that we can be sympathetic to people who suffer from gender disphoria and we can be accepting of all people who want to identify as the opposite gender without having to sacrifice our own understanding of biological reality. I would really like to see you do a video with Buck Angel or Blair White. They are both very articulate transsexuals who have a lot to offer that conversation. Happy holidays to you and your family 🎄

[@soulpowerful]

Conversations such as this are imperative.

[@Matthew-ir7wq]

Imagine the zenith of your intelligence being that you don't think women have penises. I mean, I don't either, sex is sex, gender is gender, Trans women are not biological women, but still. Have fun dying on that hill with other have been like Jordan Peterson. I guess it's all just a quick fame boost and a paycheck masquerading as deep social and political thought. I'm a woke dude, and the working class American has more in common with me than with your spoiled butt. You shouldn't be so quick to make a name for yourself at the defaming of your peers and students. Your worldview will not age well, in spite of your straddling some supposed middleground. The truth rarely lands in between the two opposing arguments these days.

[@Matthew-ir7wq]

Trans women will never be women in the bedroom of the heterosexual man. Outside of that, who freaking cares?

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

I was just talking to a girl friend of mine in her 50s about doughnuts, of all things. She mentioned that she had just eaten some doughnuts from Dunkin Donuts. So I said oh what kind and she said 'Boston creme', and she mentioned when she was in the shop she had mentioned Bavarian cream donuts to the clerk and the Dunkin Donuts clerk said point blank with total conviction that 'they had _never_ had bavarian cream donuts.' We were shaking our heads, and laughing, trying to figure out where young people get such conviction over something they LITERALLY know nothing about. I had exactly the same experience at Wendy's when I asked the drive thru clerk when they had switched their fries and the clerk said, 'they hadn't switched their fries, they were ALWAYS that way.' When I questioned this kid further he admitted he'd only worked there 6 months, but apparent the restaurant chain didn't exist before that, by his reckoning. These kids were raised on gaslighting. They honestly think the world began when they arrived and anything outside of their own experience never existed. This has happened to me at least 1/2 a dozen times when a kid at a shop has told me, with complete certainty, the thing I'm asking for never existed. IT'S SOOOOO WEIRD. No wonder young people are completely clueless about politics, they honestly think the world only exists as they create it.

[@nf6386]

It’s funny but also has alarming implications. They/them who control the present control the past, they/them who control the past control the future, even when it comes to donuts!

[@hosmerhomeboy]

Man, it is so frustrating. You go into a hardware store and you're like " I need x part", they go " no you don't that's not a thing. doesn't exist. What's your problem? Oh! that! you need Y part!!" I go " Y part doesn't work, Get me an x part" They go, "nonono! You just use the Y part like this!!!" Some freaking idiot with 3 weeks on the job feels like they need to teach a guy who is an expert on the matter how to do his job, because a sales rep for a part talked to them one time....

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

@@hosmerhomeboy Yep, it's like that everywhere. I was at my local grocery co-op and I pointed out to an employee that they had a pie on the shelf that was mis-marked. Without looking and/or listening to what I was saying the employee just snaps 'no, it's not.' I'm like yes it is. Then seamless she proceeds to tell me that I am mistaking the sell-by-date for the price - gaslighting exchange number two. And I'm like if this is the sell-by-date, this supposedly fresh $25 apple pie has been sitting on your shelf for 9 months. The chick didn't even bother to look before she dismissed my point. Finally she followed me to the aisle where I showed her that the pie which was half the size of the first pie was also priced at $25, so clearly one of these items is mismarked. The clerk was absolutely incapable of admitting that she was wrong, three consecutive times. At that point it was clear she didn't give a rat's ass how stupid she sounded or what the actual problem was, forget solving it. At this point, I find myself explaining the whole problem to employee # two who goes through the exact rigamarole as the first idiot. At this point I realized these kids were literally raised on gaslighting. They honestly had zero ability to understand, let alone solve a problem, and they not only didn't care, they weren't gonna turn their brains on for love or money. I don't think there is an on switch at this point. And yet they both were perfectly capable of making up half a dozen excuses. Their brains are stuck on a endless loop of 'you're wrong, I don't have to do anything, you're wrong, I don't have to do anything, you're wrong, I don't have to do anything.' This has somehow worked for them all the way into adulthood. And this is by no means an isolated incident. I see it all the time. I don't think our society can survive when gaslighting is the absolute default for young people across the board. It's not just politics. The exact same rote repetition of meaningless, and clearly up-side-down, jargon comes out when they talk about anything. Anyway, my point is if these people can't even process a simple, straight forward mistake in the real tangible world that's right in front of them, glaringly apparent, then grappling with them in the realm of ideas is beyond hopeless.

[@sagdragon64]

I have had this experience as few times as well. To be told something did not exist or had not previously happened when I know it most certainly did is baffling and maddening. Such conviction born from ignorance.

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

@@sagdragon64 Yeah, it's infuriating. The Dunning-Kruger effect in full force.

[@fiercearmadillo6850]

I was in one of his Philosophy of Atheism courses at Portland. A thoughtful, respectful teacher. I've remembered him fondly and it's pretty cool to see him becoming a more well known public philosopher.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Perforce of personal suffering is why.

[@eternity7477]

My opinion is that the woke activists use their activism in the same way that some religious people use religion - as a way to appear better in the eyes of others, maybe to hide the fact that without it they are not very nice people.

[@roblogs7168]

What’s woke tho? Frankly word get tossed around and lose all meaning. I left behind all the religious crap and finally get that while many will continue to believe let us criticize the systems set in place. I frankly don’t care wether you pray to the sphagetti in the sky or a rock you seen on the road nor do I care if you wanna be a woman or a man do whatever you wanna do as long as it’s not fucking hurting anybody as for sport and stuff I agree no it put women at a disadvantage.instead of fighting for being able to get into women bathroom why not go back to the hay day of the public unisex bathroom 🙃. Progress is slow and painstaking specially when the old mfs are to stubborn to let go. This is true with all groups but specially the trumptard crowd. Each gen has the “mark of the beast” shit😂 visa, barcodes, social security numbers and many more from our modern day are considered mark of the beast it’s sheer idiocy based around a superstitious figure. We are apes but the best way foward is through progress. A lot of those non woke people are getting a bitter wake up call about global warming farmers on coast are losing the ability to plant crops n it’s costing them money but they can keep preaching it’s not real, till their crop land is saturated with salt water. I personally don’t deal with anything aside from providing the people who do the service a fair wage from both in and out the country. Some are ok with a kid losing their eyes as long as their little angel has their game boy😂and I care for environment while I can’t do a lot me and my sibling they are young clean up our rivers sadly I work alot meaning I get little time since I work healthcare . So what is woke If by woke you mean progressive I just can’t come to understand it

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Clearly then, the attempt on either front fails.

[@leviswranglers2813]

I think that your opinion is much deeper than it appears and I find myself completely agreeing with you.

[@duarteluder]

I think the world is getting increasingly polarised and that is preventing us from evolving. We like to demonise others who hold different ideas. It doesn't make sense to call "woke" people "not nice". We should leave our ideological gettoes and listen to the opposing camp. There's a lot to learn from putting our selves in other peoples' shoes when it comes to political or ideological discourse. At least I do.

[@piushalg8175]

These activists like Greta are members of cults which have their their own specific dogmas. They are in fact adherants of pseudo-religions.

[@user-cm7kt9xp8k]

No religion should be free of criticism, and we need to hold all religions to account. We should not hold any religion in a privileged position. Without free speech, all our other freedoms are lost.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

WHEN was any religion spared Criticism? Good grief, it's exactly why there are so many.When you say "account", account for what? And then you better open your own mind to the good that Faith does. If you fail to do that, you are the major fool.

[@theguybehindyou4762]

@@BlueBeeMCMLXI Try publicly criticizing islam.

[@AidenMarcelle887]

⁠@@BlueBeeMCMLXIyou’re either intellectually dishonest or extremely uninformed. While there have been hundreds of examples over the last several years, Charlie Hebdo is the first that comes to mind. No lives should ever be taken over free speech.

[@krisnaylor9488]

What? "No lives should be taken over free speech"? This is hyperbolic nonsense. People advocating for keeping freedom of speech are not condoning violence. Only fools think you can control violence by silencing people. If I understand correctly what you are saying: the statement doesn't sound anything like actual compassion for people. It sounds like a lil authoritarian heart hiding behind astro turfed compassion.

[@markcredit6086]

Wow you are really off base

[@ppm4eva]

"People in `this' age have been too sensitive to people's feelings. The kind of hyper-sensitivity that we have cultivated as a virtue in society has trapped people into ways of being and thinking about the world that does not lead to their flourishing, and the flourishing of society." Spot on, Peter B. Couldn't have put it more clearly myself.

[@bobkat8765]

OR…. Maybe highly sensitive people perceive the rise of fascism sooner and more clearly than others. Like when fascists are MASK OFF and being called to arms by a sociopath trying to stay out of prison while others stand back and watch because it’s politically expedient, or the consequences of resistance are severe and immediate - ie: COWARDS ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN. “Since the fascist route to power has always passed through cooperation with conservative elites, at least in the cases so far known, the strength of a fascist movement in itself is only one of the determining variables in the achievement (or not) of power, though it is surely a vital one. Fascists did have numbers and muscle to offer to conservatives caught in crisis in Italy and Germany, as we have seen. Equally important, however, was the conservative elites’ willingness to work with fascism; a reciprocal flexibility on the fascist leaders’ part; and the urgency of the crisis “that induced them to cooperate with each other.” Excerpt From The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton “Fascists often cursed faceless cities and materialist secularism, and exalted an agrarian utopia free by from the rootlessness, conflict, and immorality of urban life. Yet fascist leaders adored their fast cars and planes, and spread their message “by dazzlingly up-to-date techniques of propaganda and stagecraft. Once in power, they forced the industrial pace in order to rearm. Thus it becomes difficult to posit the essence of fascism solely in either antimodernist reaction or in modernizing dictatorship.” The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton “Fascism’s ideological underpinnings became central again in the “final stages”, as the accompaniment and guide of wartime radicalization. As the fascist hard core acquired independence from their conservative allies at the battlefront or in occupied enemy territory, their racial hatreds and their contempt for liberal or humanist values reasserted themselves in the killing fields of Libya, Ethiopia, Poland, and the Soviet Union.” The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton “The strategy of the Germans and their French police cohort was stealthy, predictable, and almost successful. Until mid-1942, when anti-Jewish operations became more violent and the rumors of a Nazi Final Solution had finally reached Paris, most well meaning and generous Parisians were aware in general of the laws restricting the lives of their Jewish co-habitants, but had convinced themselves that the government was only trying to control immigration and terrorism.” Ronald C. Rosbottom, When Paris Went Dark: The City of Light Under German Occupation, 1940-1944 “We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years.” - Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872 “A state that once again rules in God's name can count not only on our applause but also on enthusiastic and active cooperation from the church. With joy and thanks we see how this new state rejects blasphemy, attacks immorality, promotes discipline and order with a firm hand, demands awe before God, works to keep marriage sacred and our youth spiritually instructed, brings honor back to fathers of families, ensures that love of people and fatherland is no longer mocked, but burns in a thousand hearts. ...We can only plead with our fellow worshipers to do as they can to help these new productive forces in our land reach a complete and unimpeded victory. - Easter Sunday Blessing from Protestant Pastors in Bavaria, April 16, 1933 “It is the press, above all, which wages a positively fanatical and slanderous struggle, tearing down everything which can be regarded as a support of national independence, cultural elevation, and the economic independence of the nation.” Adolf Hitler “The organization of our press has truly been a success. Our law concerning the press is such that divergence of opinion between members of the government are no longer an occasion for public exhibitions, which are not the newspapers’ business. We’ve eliminated that conception of political freedom which holds that everybody has the right to say whatever comes into his head.” Adolph Hitler “They [Fascists] enforced with the utmost violence and thoroughness their threats against socialism. Street fights over turf with young communists were among their most powerful propaganda images. Once in power, fascist regimes banned strikes, dissolved independent labor unions, lowered wage earners’ purchasing power, and showered money on armaments industries, to the immense satisfaction of employers.” Excerpt From The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. ...Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. ... -- Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922 "Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." --Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922

[@CMA418]

Can we say with certainty that it's really "hyper-" though? Maybe it just seems that way relative to what has existed in the past? Is it possible we, generally speaking, have just been insensitive to the thoughts and feelings of others to an extent that this current push FEELS extreme? I will say, in my personal experience, considering the the thoughts and feelings of others-when speaking or acting-does take more self-restraint than doing the opposite. Many times I want to say, "Screw your feelings. Your feelings are stupid. And I shouldn't have to consider them, especially because I'm right." But this seems like the easy path; the path where I don't have to do any self-reflection where I think other people should.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

The very expression of their Humanity is emotional, and so they feel violated when that's not enough to close disagreement - or defuse their personal hurt. That would be a poodle pup of itself though - because it's the leftist quagmire of "intellectual" supports for new bigotry that is the savage dog. The Identity Politics, the ranked "lived experience" ladder of human importance. So, the united chanting by BLM'ers in Portland, Oregon 2020, looks a little warm and fuzzy - but the sun dips and the werewolves destroy whatever property and life they choose as they rampage. That is NOT virtue in any book. That is bestial. So virtue is not the modus. Power is the modus. The Law is spat on. Open your eyes, this is visceral not about culture. This is reducing the western tradition to tramelled dust. A philosopher knows ...

[@theguybehindyou4762]

@@CMA418 If we can't openly point out what is wrong with something, we are being censored. It's that simple.

[@CMA418]

@@theguybehindyou4762 You have more to gain by pointing to yourself than you do by pointing to others.

[@hagathacrusty8995]

Andrew is such a good interviewer, long may this channel continue.

[@andrewgoldheretics]

As long as you lovely people keep coming! Thank you :)

[@thomaslee8088]

You are so right, i truly hope this channel gets more traction

[@VioletACordy]

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[@redcliffsclosetresale]

"A uniquely stupid age" has me terrified, but I absolutely see this manifest regularly. I try to be hopeful for the future but it's becoming more and more challenging. My beliefs have evolved throughout the course of my life, and I embrace that evolution. Debate and the bold challenge of my opinions has been critical in the development of my values and beliefs. When logic and constructive conversation has gone by the wayside, where do we go from here?

[@99guspuppet8]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ technology is killing the human race

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

How do you think it was to live just before the French Revolution? There's your general answer.

[@Durzo1259]

I'm hoping it's an ebb and flow made of long, 10-20 year waves. The fundamental aspect of western intellectual society, since The Enlightenment, has been objective rationality. People who debated their opinions would argue over who's being more objectively rational. Now I'm seeing a generation who are taught that objectivity is tantamount to heresy and thinking about anything that goes against doctrine is offensive and immoral. I never thought I would see western civilization reject objective rationality.

[@angelmessenger8240]

Idiocracy was a documentary. We have lost connection to each other and to faith. the language is being adulterated so people can't express themselves. Very 1984.

[@joecoolioness6399]

Faith is the cause of so much of this hatred though. Belief systems are so very personal and those that don't believe the same as you are easy targets. I wish it were different. As an Atheist I don't have that, I think religious people are silly but I don't hate on them because they have that belief (in fact, I understand how powerful it can be for keeping people in line, giving them a community to belong to, and to take their money).

[@Durzo1259]

I know everyone loves to refer to Ideocracy and I enjoyed it too, but honestly it wasn't all that much of an inciteful or remarkable movie; it didn't really get into the underlying stupidity of society. I think it's just the only movie that spoke to people's fear that society is getting dumber, even if it didn't do so in a very significant way.

[@user-ll9wh4jt2k]

I was a doctor treating Afghan refugees in Australia, who told me nightmare stories of living under both the Soviets and the Taliban. They were totally accepting of Jews and taught me a great deal about the history and ideas of Islam. These parents are now sceptical of Islamic activism and continue to be pacifists, but their grown up children are now pro Palestinian, even though Hamas and the other Islamic terrorist organizations use the same tactics against their own societies. I think this radicalisation of the younger generation of refugee families needs to be looked into. For twenty years now I have seen these young people watching Nazi documentaries from World War II. This radicalisation of young Muslims involves profound antisemitism. Who is really behind it?

[@jayjaydubful]

Does it mainly stem from the emergence of Salafism in the 90s, funded by Saudis?

[@user-ll9wh4jt2k]

The Afghans spent time in Iran as refugees first. Iran is Shiite and they are Sunni Muslims. The young generation were born in Iran and Pakistan. I think the radicalisation of both Sunni and Shiite young people is happening within Australia, Canada, USA and Europe. One of the horrified parents who is a poet wrote, "Does the defence of faith require the killing of babies?"

[@kathyflorcruz552]

It's not just antisemitism. It's anti- everything except Islam. NO ONE "RELIGION" should be a protected class above another especially when Islam is not a religion but an enemy government with its own extreme law that that means DEATH to everyone ELSE in its path.

[@cherrob48]

@@user-ll9wh4jt2kwow! That about babies is really so telling about how deep the problem really is!

[@flowermeerkat6827]

I think there a lot of groups out there who want retribution instead of justice. It’s easier to be a hater than it is to be a thinker.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Yes. Revenge for acts of outrage that never happened to the assembled mob, but the mob rant on behalf of others from long ago.

[@joecoolioness6399]

They want revenge

[@DrCruel]

@@joecoolioness6399 Theye want to get paid off and become rich. They also follow the Attila Doctrine - it is not enough that they win, everyone else must lose.

[@gzoechi]

I think for many it's just the wish to wield power in some way. If someone is hurt because of what you do and he can't defend against it, you can feel like you have some power. This makes it easy to incite one powerless group against another.

[@flowermeerkat6827]

@@gzoechi I’ve noticed with some people I know that they seem to hunt for causes to enrage them and then see themselves as champions of justice. I had a discussion with a really nice person who called themselves a “bleeding heart” and framed their arguments as that they were compassionate and caring and those that disagreed with them had sinister motives.

[@BasedYoga]

I love Peter!! This is a great interview ❤ I think if you are always questioning, seeking evidence, using reason, weighing your beliefs against the available evidence and open to change, you will be much less likely to become ideologically captured and fall into delusion. It's so sad that our educational institutions are not teaching students this, but are rather leading them straight into delusion and ideological capture.

[@juliej3155]

Well said! I’m already thinking of sending my daughter to his new college in Austin.

[@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs]

You say that but he keeps on call the current lovely fir trans equality a ideology says it’s stupid despite the medical evidence. That sounds unreasonable to me

[@randyandretti]

I have to clarify what people mean daily at work. It is super annoying and time-consuming when the lazy way is just to make assumptions and move on. It really makes me see how little people know, absorb and understand what I’ve explained or instructed them to do. My entire day is spent trying to be precise in writing and speaking. It’s exhausting but pays off in the end. I love when people admit they don’t know or don’t understand.

[@Winterascent]

What field are you working in? I hope not air traffic control.

[@robscovell5951]

​@@Winterascentor nuclear power plant control!

[@timelapsega]

It feels like we're all on a sinking ship and instead of figuring out how to stop the ship from sinking and save ourselves we're arguing about who's fault it is the ship is sinking.

[@jojowynne233]

I absolutely love these conversations on Heretics! I’m now rethinking the word convictions. Although I still think we have some basic principles in us that we would truly believe such as the right to an education for all people. Peter blatantly pointed out how stupid this world has become. I couldn’t agree more. I will follow his channel because I am interested to see how he gets or doesn’t get people at opposite ends to move closer together or at least explain their position. As you said Andrew, there are people chanting “from the river to the sea …..” with no idea what they are really saying. The “useful idiots”!

[@soulpowerful]

This

[@clareirwin5791]

I've been subscribe to your other channel for about three months or more, and just started subscribing to this one about 5/6 days ago. Really enjoying it. Didn't know that happened to Graham Linehan. Loved his shows and he seems like such a thoughtful and sweet guy. The Francis Foster one was great too. Wasn't aware of him...I live in the States.Good luck with the channel! It's great!

[@rgghjs9270]

It didn't "happen to him", the guy has 220,000 tweets. He's a cry bully, obsessed and obstinate

[@annastone5624]

@rgghjs9270 How does that figure compare with other prominent users of Twitter?

[@theinnerlight8016]

Huge Peter Boghossian fan here. Thank you for having him on! These conversations are sorely needed these days. 🖖

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Thank you!! I’m doing his street game next month so watch this space! :)

[@lynnej.9357]

Between watching this video and reading some comments, I am reminded of my son when he was about five or six years old. He was most commonly heard saying, "What do you mean?" and, "How do you know?" He did go on to major in philosophy in university.

[@Rainy_day_puddles]

Omg. I love Peter! I first saw him on the Rubin Report last week .

[@carolroy52]

I think Peter is wonderful ❤it will be a great conversation. Congratulations Andrew in interviewing fascinating people - I would also like to see another HGTudor interview - can that be on this channel? ❤❤

[@andrewgoldheretics]

thanks so much carol. the only thing is that i am determined to do in-person 4k interviews for now. but i'll see if that changes in the coming months. can't do in person with hg!

[@keepitreal665]

What has HG Tudor got to d9 with this? He is a narcissist and studies narcissisum.A sadistic, controlling personality type.

[@laurenhowell7691]

Your videos are a breath of fresh air on a polarizing and confusing platform. The older I get, the more centrist I become. Even just becoming more distrusting of many media outlets and how things are portrayed.

[@bethscott4330]

I told my 25 year old son, Andy “I’m so proud of you…just continue being a good person” he looked me straight in the eyes and asked “mom, what’s a good person?” I knew what he was saying. It was a silly statement to make to him and I felt it as soon as I said it. I couldn’t articulate what I wanted to say. He and I were parting ways. We live 5 hours apart from each other and I wanted to say something encouraging. His wisdom was beyond mine. All it did was make me more proud of him. I just pulled him in for a hug and told him I loved him. What is the definition of a good person? That’s such an excellent question.

[@hd-be7di]

I think someone that has compassion and is able to put themselves in someone else's shoes is a good start.

[@FinHammer]

I have followed Peter for awhile and find his Socratic method approach really intriguing. I wish we could have more conversations as a society. We need that, badly. Thank you for having him on. I love your stuff aswell, Andrew ❤

[@AdamJones381]

Completely agree with Andrew about empathy, it is word banged around a lot when people mean that they are sad when something happens to their in tribe. It is quite ironic misuse of the word.

[@Poecilia1963]

I'm curious about how long and how deeply some of the western/white pro-Palestinian marchers have been invested in this particular conflict - ie, is it more than the flavour of the month? And are they as passionate about the Pakistan-Afghanistan situation, or the horrors currently underway in Sudan? And if not, why not?

[@donpietruk1517]

My suspicion, if I may, is there is an additional element involved in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that virtually no one addresses but is the elephant in the room. Many on the left regard the Isreali's as white and therefore they get tagged with the colonizer and oppressor tag. The Palestinians are regarded as people of color and therefore automatically oppressed. This fits very well into the CRT lens that many on the left view the world through. They feel by supporting the Palestinians they are affirming their credentials as anti-racist. This is of course ludicrous as Palestinians and Israelis share many genetic characteristics and haplo groups. They are genetically at least, close cousins. Further there are many Israelis that are darker skinned than many Palestinians and many Palestinians could pass as being from somewhere in the Mediterranean. They ignore these facts because it complicates the narrative. All the other conflicts don't involve this distinction and are to them frankly irrelevant. Much like they ignore the issue of black on black crime in the US but focus on white on black violence. They see the world through a racial lens.

[@Kieselmeister]

It's because they either have been educated by "fellow travelers" of marxism and/or it's ideological offspring, and uncritically swallowed their propaganda, or are some flavor of Marxist themselves. The PLO was founded as an alliance between the incrementalist Marxist Fatah & the Marxist-Leninist PLFP, and the USSR was openly & actively allied with the PLO from 1972 through the fall of the USSR. Hamas are islamists, not marxists, but most varieties of socialist activist are all about lumping disparate groups that hate each other together to fit their simplistic binary dialectic narrative worldview. Which is how you get the ridiculous "LGBTQ+ for Palestine", "solidarity with people that want to literally murder you next once they are done with the Israelis", nonsense.

[@spm36]

​@@Kieselmeisterbest comment on here

[@spm36]

We know why...they see israel as white oppressors....quietly ignoring the real oppressors running gaza and stealing aid

[@bigymara]

I really like your style of interviewing/conversations. You show that it is ok to ask questions, it’s ok not to know certain things and it is ok to have opinions that are not fully formed yet. I’m excited to see the future of the podcast!

[@andrewgoldheretics]

I appreciate that!

[@dvanaestcestica1135]

Exactly this. In the times where even an average Joe appears to have extremely strong and final opinions on everything, no matter how little or nothing at all they know about any given subject, and there is nothing that can shake let alone change those opinions, it's really refreshing and so rare to have a host of a podcast on hot topics who is cautious, thoughtful, balanced, intellectually honest and doesn't have an answer to everything, but is there to facilitate the conversation.

[@darksoul479]

Every time I get upset about human behavior I just remind myself that humans are apes.

[@rebeccao8895]

We all need to get out of our bubbles and listen to opposing views. Enjoying the new channel. Keep it coming!

[@CMA418]

I would agree. Though the title "The Insane Hypocrisy of Woke Activists" doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of this concept.

[@geoffreybrockmeier3765]

⁠@@CMA418He knows they’re insanely hypocritical because he’s listened to them.

[@CMA418]

@@geoffreybrockmeier3765 Of course they are. But they don’t have a monopoly on hypocrisy. Most people can easily point to other people’s hypocrisy. Very few will admit to and examine their own. 🤷‍♂️

[@dbentleyto95]

Wonderful to see and hear an interesting, intelligent conversation, meaning both people are listening and contributing. Listen and learn, lol.

[@F4xP4s]

The absolute first thing I ask someone is to question why they believe what they believe. I’d say 50% of the time, they don’t know why and get extremely defensive.

[@joecoolioness6399]

So true, try to get someone to give you a good reason they are a christian or a muslim or a jew, etc. The only good answer I have ever gotten is that someone they cared about told them about it and they believed without ever questioning it.

[@jasontaylor6779]

Very much looking forward to Peter. I hope to make the live.

[@Melody-st4df]

Hey I'm going to buy his book "How to have difficult conversations" !! Thank you Andrew, he's such a sensible man. Fascinating.

[@_nebulousthoughts]

It's very good

[@kathleenhartnellharper7234]

I’m of the opinion that if it’s true that we evolved from Apes we still retain what I call a Chimp mentality. In Jane Goodall’s studies of Chimpanzees she noted a group of them broke off from the main troop and settled in another area. She initially thought Chimps were peaceful but she watched in horror as the dominant group picked out and systematically murdered these former troop mates until there was no one left. The dominant group then took over the territory and resources. This is Chimp Mentality and we have not evolved past those primitive, primal instincts. I just saw Napoleon and in the closing credits it was noted that at least 3 million people died from his senseless, worthless campaigns. Chimp Mentality. I pray that mankind can evolve, otherwise we are doomed.

[@charlytaylor1748]

sad but true, Kathleen, and that puts us on 'the wrong side of history' currently. Damn that Rousseau.

[@DJJonPattrsn22]

Wow! How refreshing to listen to thoughtful, reasonable, informed & intelligent conversation... It is true that we are living in a remarkably stupid age, and dark age in many ways... True skepticism, critical thought and genuine open-mindedness have become extremely rare and that is a great reason to be terrified!

[@hypatia3068]

Egypt does not want the Palestinians, nor do Lebanon or Jordan. There are many reasons for this, mostly political. I see no solutions in the next 100 years. It is a horrible situastion and ditto tragedy for both parties.

[@leslielearnorth]

As long as I’ve been alive and able to understand words there has been “trouble in the middle east

[@excellentcomment]

Stupidity is the achievement of refusing to teach history, facts & logic. Followed by submission & fearful compliance.

[@emmiebl6605]

I could listen to Peter all day - his lovely smooth voice and his wisdom are the perfect combo! *slight swoon*

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Are you a hamster?

[@ingebjhj]

This is tv I have been missing since childhood. Philosophy is vital. We used to have discussion programmes on the only TV channel in Norway in the 80s, until furious debate programmes took over the role via commercial channels. Since then the state channel followed the lead to a certain extent. Never can we say that capitalism equals democracy. They are too often regarded as the same thing. Well now, I started with one thought, and ended in another. Hope something was coming through 😅 I like your channel, Andrew. Keep up the good work. There are many people with more questions than answers, and who are able to admit it ❤

[@peterkelly4567]

F*ck is defintely a noun, its also a verb, exclamation, and and adjective. A wonderfully versatile word.

[@SvendleBerries]

It is lol I can't remember who coined the phrase, but someone made a short sentence using nothing but that word, "Fuck the fucking fucker" lol

[@mathewhale3581]

The most versafuckentile word

[@Juttutin]

This was really fascinating. A really interesting and thoughtful conversation. I remain perplexed by Andrew's passing yet certain insistence upon his own *convictions* in an explicit context of being open minded and thoughtful enough to avoid having convictions.

[@Siss2012]

Love your shows Andrew! You always take a fair, sober, kind and nuanced approach to all subjects you discuss,and your shows are always interesting to watch. You are my favourite podcaster! I would love to hear Julie Bindel interviewed or Ayan Hirsi Ali, if she’s ever in town!

[@andrewgoldheretics]

This might be achievable! Watch this space. And thanks!

[@dustylong]

@SuperTsita Why Ayan Hirsi Ali?

[@devikalambert1674]

They have been offered more than twice a two stare solution possible four and refused

[@Siss2012]

@@dustylongwhy not?

[@dustylong]

@@Siss2012 I was just wondering 🤗 She doesn't have a great reputation here in The Netherlands, depending who you ask, of course. But she lied to get citizinship, so yeah.

[@joyspettigue2855]

Scary idiotic world !! Great interview

[@guygeezer1468]

"A uniquely stupid age..." So true.

[@clareirwin5791]

Enjoying this video. Also the setting is lovely with the windows behind you both. Liked the opening with the Platonic/Socratic discussion about justice. Watched three of the four and do like the channel very much. Long conversation/discussion is great.

[@meitalsaad7989]

As a Jew and an Israeli who grew up in constant war for genorations, I see peace as safety and freedom. not being afraid to tell people who you are, no matter the time, no matter if it's in your country or around the world. Ask Jews around the world if they really feel safe. Ask Muslims. Jews, as you have seen in recent months, are not safe anywhere. Muslims are usually not safe in their own countries because of their governments (Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia...) that is why many of them become refugees in the West. For some reason most muslims still choose to support the terror and dictatorships they fled instead of opposing it and exposing it. maybe you should ask them why?

[@anthonymorris5084]

Well said.

[@soulpowerful]

Out of all the conversations regarding Israel & Palestine, deeper conversations such as this are instrumental towards peace. I cannot thank you enough for this.

[@ellie698]

This new channel of yours is like a breath of fresh air to be found amongst the fetid miasma of KZbin 🙏 Breathe deeply everyone!

[@mycatsnameiskaren8253]

So excited for this! I just subbed to your new channel and I'm really excited to binge all your content!

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Yay! Thank you!

[@staciadams9445]

Love the content of the new channel.

[@TerribleFire]

Completely refreshing to see people rationally looking at the middle ground. Maybe not agreeing with one side or the other but just understanding it. We need more discussion like this as a species.

[@samaireoctober5584]

This was a great discussion. We need more like this!

[@emilyking9795]

Yesss! Love this guy! So good to listen to your convo. Thanks, Andrew.

[@andrewgoldheretics]

My pleasure!

[@JoTracy]

"They have the right to probe!" "I stand with Aliens!"

[@alainbellmunt9322]

Hello from Mexico, Andrew. Thanks for being a voice against woke culture. This kind of ideology has affected my life in many ways and I feel invisible even when I try to talk about something really serious that happened to me in a cult. A doctor used something against me called "law of mother and father" or the official name of "gender roles" in my country. I tried to talk with feminists and LGBT people but no one hears me, I even by accident stole an important piece of information that dismantles the system the cult uses. I think they don't believe I was assigned the profile or cast of "The Patriarch" as a kid and told my father was agressive when he was always good with me. Things are way worse than I thought. I tried to reach the Trevor Project telling them how it hurts to be assigned the profile of the lamb, the passionate and the indomitable seducer as a minor and they told me everyone has labels they like to use and I shouldn't be ashamed of that, WTF. I was even assigned a place in a fake hyerarchy and no one in the cult found nothing wrong with being told the "Master" is the only profile that has not a skull with any other one, is always the best and everyone should be like it, and obviosuly the leader Fernando casually is that profile and I'm in 9th place. This is horrible, please let me have a chat with you so I can show you proof because I found very interesting things no one in my environment wants to hear. I'm convinced those laws are used all across my country and maybe even connected to the MBTI (They both have 16 personalities each with 8 "laws" in Tanatodinamia or "cognitive functions" in the MBTI), they are the official gender roles and I gave woke people enought opportunities to write this down because it's really important but I keep getting silenced because my real story doesn't align with their fantasy and just assume I'm lying but I can prove it.

[@annanikia7949]

It is an idiotic era. I use my favorite motto often these days: “Only visiting this planet”

[@arydant]

Peter Boghossian is one of those rare individuals in our society today who skillfully challenges people to step back and look at the broader picture at a time when every example of media is striving to make each of us as narrow minded as possible so as to control our behavior for power and profit.

[@dempopragola7337]

There's no conversation if one side believed right are enforced by might or the illusion to have that kind of power.

[@99guspuppet8]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ might does win the day

[@rouxfan]

THIS is the most intelligent video I have seen in a long time! Why are sensible, objective, intelligent people in such short supply in our age? We all pretend to know stuff that we don't know. Great conversation! Thank you!

[@9ja9ite]

Fantastic conversation you guys. I really enjoyed this one.

[@deborahevans4249]

Always interesting ❤

[@Objectivityiskey]

Terry Goodkind~ “People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.”

[@FunnyMemo]

So true and well said.

[@Mr_Monkey_McNugget]

Wonderful conversation. Thanks.

[@kcc-karenschroniccorner9432]

So excited to see you finally interview Peter on your channel!

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@saiynoq6745]

Any kid from the 90s should understand that the trolls won the internet.

[@onlyme7308]

Empathy - is to understand someone usually triggered by something similar in your life you can relate to. Compassion is trying to understand the human plight without having experience necessarily.

[@mbroitt]

That's superficially nice and very detached. I don't have and do not aspire to have any sympathy for people committing reprehensible deeds.

[@agnesberes4084]

I love your new chanel! Thanks for the fantastic conversations.

[@SunnyVale-mt1ty]

I follow - and am supportive - of Andrew Gold and Peter Boghossian and the laudable work they do to inform on many controversial, critical issues. Both are very brave for taking on "the left" while not being simply the reactionary right. I am a liberal, also LGB. I am shocked by the Orwellian insanity of "gender ideology." On this show dealing with blind wokism/cult-leftism, Andrew Gold betrays his own unquestioned "[leftie] wokism" repeating leftist/Marxist disinformation he's swallowed along the way about "the Bolsheviks" he states as *[his] factual history* - by so *matter-of-factly* throwing out to Peter that "the Bolsheviks" [were] "a group of people who had a very righteous idea but put the righteous idea ahead of truth and fact and eventually went very wrong." Peter also does not question this. The so-called "righteous idea" was "in fact" an *Orwellian insanity* embraced by a handful of crazed-and-murderous "Marxist" ideologues to experiment on millions of human beings in an attempt to "socially engineer human beings" to fulfill an extremist ideology by force, murder, countless deaths. I am a history major and know all the classic "formation of the Soviet Union" historians and their political leanings. Andrew Gold's belief about the Bolsheviks reflects a "Bolshevik-apologist" bias and "Marxist-capture." A glaring blind spot for Andrew and Peter in this show about "ideology capture" and "leftist-wokism" blind spots. The Bolsheviks were never nice guys who only wanted the best for everyone but from the start were a bloody bunch of radical extremist ideologues led by the father of the "social engineering" (i.e. murder, deportation, purging any dissent) experiment, Lenin, and then the murderous diabolical monster Stalin - who allied with the murderous diabolical monster Hitler (of the "truth and fact" Nazi "racial engineering experiment" also "gone very bad" ). Again, I do appreciate all the excellent work both Peter Boghossian and Andrew Gold do but please do check your own "woke" bias - which we all actually need to do.

[@Sunmoonandstars123]

The way the questions are asked is of vital importance. For example, instead of asking why a person doesn’t believe Israel has the right to exist, they should ask why a person doesn’t believe Palestine has a right to exist. Israel is in fact recognized as a state, Palestine is not. The original question obscures this fact.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Hm. Palestine has not existed as an independent state before (despite what the Romans called it; it wasn’t an independent Arab state). Israel is. The questions should be “do you think Palestine should exist now and in the future” and “despite existing now, should Israel no longer exist”? And for both questions, “how should that happen”?

[@bradenchurch552]

Hypersensitivity to other people’s feelings. Nailed it.

[@standardprocedure7017]

Why don't we go all the way and wish for a quasi-genecidal/colonial and imperial utopia where narcissistic anxietie, panic and fear of inferiority and abandonment can be free from the complexity of parallel existences.

[@cherrob48]

Actually I think the problem is hypersensitivity to having one's OWN feelings hurt, and then activists project that to make other people, society in general, care about those feelings.

[@vonickles5033]

Your guest tonight is excellent, andrew gold, thankies so much or this part show xx much love xxx

[@tommymarco]

Second video in a row I have watched today with the same guest, really good talk. Going to look for more :)

[@Grace.allovertheplace]

Hi 👋 fantastic interview 👌

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Thanks so much!

[@sebytheman]

came here for Peter, staying for Andrew. Great convo.

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Love to hear it.

[@vonickles5033]

Most interesting show tonight x thank you mr gold xxx

[@erikhartley2494]

This was an amazing conversation!

[@sarasamson5922]

Glad I subscribed to Heretics. Thanks for another thought-provoking interview. If you hadn't listed your wide-rangingtopics and time stamps, I never would've guessed them. Upon reflection, 'aliens' being the answer to 'what's next' makes sense to me. There seems to be a continuing progression of people stuck in their tribal beliefs unable to see another side, with no will or ability to change their beliefs. Once people increasingly separate from those outside their tribe ('the other') via censorship, cancelling, name-calling., is the next step dehumanization, seeing 'the other' as 'alien'? If so, how is that better or different from oppression, marginalization or colonization? Let's see if my comment gets removed or censored, despite having no PDF files lurking. OOOPS...

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Us and Them is not news. Nor the "animal in Them".

[@ObjectiveEthics]

Fantastic interview and a fantastic guest. Very well done.

[@leslielearnorth]

Wow this conversation is wayyy over my head!!

[@anneclink3486]

When in Israel, our Israeli guide told us that the Israeli/Palestinian problem was with the politicians. We ate in Palestinian restaurants, met Palestinians and shopped in Palestinian stores. NEVER did we feel unsafe. The problem is not with the average person. All regular people just want to live the best life they can with their neighbors.

[@spm36]

That's because you were sat in israel..a free society..now try the same in a state run by hamas

[@cherrob48]

You would not be able to have an equivalent experience like that in Gaza, not any time in the last 40+ years !

[@cheyenneskylark]

Hello Andrew! Love your controversial video posts, particularly Heretics. Can you do a specific one on Christopher Hitchens, author of "God is not Great," on Islamic dogma? Christoper Hitchens dares to say what we all think, but don't because of the unwritten social media etiquette rule which we all (underneath it all) really don't support. If we do, we're surely red pilled! Marilyn, Connecticut US

[@andrewgoldheretics]

I wish he were alive, as I would ask him on. My guest booker did reach out to his brother Peter but we haven't heard back yet. He'll come up a lot during this podcast, though, as he is a hero of mine.

[@cheyenneskylark]

@@andrewgoldheretics Yes I recently saw a podcast interview promoting his book (didn't know of his passing) but wow he's so DIRECT, so logical in his reasoning. He makes complete sense and is unapologetic about it. Hope his brother or another family member reaches out. Thanks again for all your hard work here. You're a rising star!

[@elizabethmadron1336]

Christopher was a progressive liberal atheist. His brother is nothing like him,a staunch religious Conservative.

[@noisevenyes]

The idea you proposed as an alternative at 7:25 is an exact match with Luke Bergis's definition of empathy - going into someone else's perspective WITHOUT taking their side or dissolving your identity into theirs.

[@say10..]

Long time fan of Peter Boghossian's work, thanks for interviewing him.

[@kyoglesage]

IMO it’s not reasonable to ask ‘the person in the street’ what their solution is. Peter says, ‘This is not my area of expertise’. Well, it’s not the area of expertise of the vast majority of people at rallies either. It’s the job of diplomats whose entire career has been spent studying and attempting to find a way through to stop the continual impasse. Is it acceptable for people to publicly voice their grief, anger and frustration without having any concrete suggestion as to how to solve the problem? Same, IMO, with Greta Thunberg. It’s not *her* role to present solutions. She’s the public embodiment of millions of people who’re frustrated and frightened and it’s not *their* job to come up with simple solutions to an extremely complicated problem either. That’s the job of politicians, climate scientists and engineers with expertise in appropriate areas.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Anyone energised enough to march in the streets should have some idea, however vague, of the change they want to see in the world.

[@lucyh4355]

That's an interesting way to look at it, thank you.

[@alabaster2163]

People marching in streets for cease fire.... I don't think we need to get philosophical about that. Overcomplicating "to murder or not to murder" is ludicrous. Lol I didn't hear 1 point or 1 conclusion of his findings.... Gate keeping basic education is killing us but, wouldn't need these YT channels if it wasn't classist culture. Milgram Experiment.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@alabaster2163 they don’t even realise that a ceasefire must be observed by both sides, otherwise it’s not a ceasefire.

[@durin3415]

How will the protesters know if the politicians and diplomats have delivered what they want? How do they know when to stop protesting because they succeeded?

[@user-cm7kt9xp8k]

All religions are man made. Science depends on evidence, and one can be open-minded to new evidence and testing of hypothesis.

[@joecoolioness6399]

Correct. way more people have been destroyed by religion, because they were accidentally born in the wrong place and were raised to believe the wrong things.

[@marieparker3822]

I refer both Peter Boghossian and Andrew Gold to the U-tube video, 'WPATH and the Eunuch Archives'. I think it is required viewing.

[@heartpath1]

Relativism can only lead to one place: hypocrisy (contradiction) and absurdity.

[@tbishop4961]

How did you snag peter?!! This is great. Good for you man

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Thanks! It's been a good start to this channel, I've been lucky with guests.

[@majorbloodnok6659]

Thank you, a thought provoking interview

[@user-hn7my8ow4s]

Justice is vengeance dressed in fine clothes .....

[@NataliaMartan]

You are a great journalist Andrew❤❤❤please do more videos about israel ❤️

[@sarahbartlett4945]

That's why I won't be on the marches. I have no idea what the solution is. I'm still trying to learn about the history that has led to this point. I can say that the fact that we're still at a point where humans find it easier to annihilate one another than to sit at a table and keep talking until a solution can be found- that the idea that that's impossible, but bombing, raping, and killing children is in any way a justifiable alternative means we're still nowhere. I think of justice as fairness not an eye for an eye. I have been exploring (daily) transactivism for approximately four years, I am still exploring and whilst I certainly know what I think, I still see areas of nuance. I can't stand the way many humans are so SURE (and aggressive with it) with lazy arrogance but no idea about any facts either of their own position or of the people they're happy to demonise. I literally find it overwhelmingly depressing. It shows how easily we could fall into the madness of the mob and commit atrocity. 😢

[@sanniepstein4835]

Robert Spencer and Bill Warner explain the history and ethos of islam well. MEMRItv has content without comment.

[@jmoney9494]

People haven't put much thought into their opinions, let alone someone else's, and are put into an echo chamber and have it reinforced. They want instant gratification and the best way is to shout into their own echo chamber instead of questioning anything

[@hala9175]

Fascinating! Great interview. Thanks!

[@andrewgoldheretics]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@margartista]

you're not going red pilled are ya?

[@JohnJames-kw5de]

What does this mean?

[@hagathacrusty8995]

He's been pretty open about his feminist leanings

[@ainsleystevenson9198]

The Christian church imagines Gods justice system is like the human justice system, where a judge accuses, condemns and punishes lawbreakers, but this idea is derived from the pagan belief that God wrote laws, man broke his laws, therefore God must punish lawbreakers. This concept declares God a lawbreaker, for one cannot burn his enemies in pain, suffering, agony and torment in hell without being unforgiving, retributive, punitive and lawless like us. And in this scenario Jesus came to save us from Gods punishment by becoming a live innocent human sacrifice, whose blood we offer up to appease Gods wrath, thus changing Gods heart and mind so that he will no longer torture us but instead declare us innocent, saving us from death. But there is another, unpagan, way to interpret scripture, whereby we first believe Gods law is his eternal character, therefore God is law-full, sinless according to the law like Jesus, and incapable of changing nor denying his law-fullness. If we interpret scripture through believing God is exactly like Jesus, we would conclude that Gods justice system is like a Doctors surgery, rather than a courtroom, where the Doctor diagnoses our terminal lawlessness and provides the saving remedy, which is a changed heart and mind, a born again experience where we no longer desire lawlessness but instead love law-fullness. In this interpretation Jesus came to ‘heal’ by showing us the truth about his fathers character and offering the free gift of his spirit to change us within, thus saving us from the sin which is destroying us. Therefore the answer is not to kill terrorists but to heal their hearts and minds in order that they no longer desire to elevate themselves by killing Jews, but begin to love others more than they love themselves. It is about time we brought up the subject of the character of the God we worship and serve because we do not have one true God here, we have many false Gods elevated to a position of adoration.

[@99guspuppet8]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ what you just said is ouroborean foolishness ……. Let’s all go to Sugar rock Candy Mountain.

[@joecoolioness6399]

Your god knows what it would take for me to believe in him but so far has chosen not to give me that. So justice, in your gods view, is now after I die, I get to burn in hell forever. Sorry, your god is an immoral unjust monster. (PS your god already knows what is going to happen to us all so he created me knowing I would not believe in him, in order to put me in hell when I die, that is just gross)

[@99guspuppet8]

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[@ainsleystevenson9198]

@@joecoolioness6399 I most definitely do not believe in the God you are describing, in fact, if he were real, I would also reject him.

[@AmberMyers-ek2bp]

Appreciate your dialogue. Rational critical thinking is essential for a prosperous and uplifting human society.

[@afidemist]

Thank you. Been saying this stuff for years.

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

When I hear about peace and justice, I always remember the video Pain's Speech from Naruto. It talks about how the world is ruled by hatred and people don't understand each other.