The Insane ‘Lord Of The Flies’ Reality Show You've Never Heard Of

[@CynicalReviews]

Just so there's no confusion as to why there's no comments, basically they got nuked. KZbin randomly decided to disable them (and didn't tell me, I had to find out from a fan). I re-enabled them, but the process of doing that somehow put the video to "Scheduled", which means the video is temporarily made private. And if a video is ever made Private, apparently it completely and permanently nukes the entire comments section. So there we go. Wonderful.

[@asnaghall]

It's because you dismissed animal cruelty. Be better than that. Stop uploading abusive content.

[@bee.phobic]

@@asnaghallwhat?

[@zawarudo1041]

More important is fight against HUMAN cruelty first before any bambinistic stuff

[@j.monica8794]

There's a show called the secret lives of 4yr olds I believe is also a UK show I think you'd have a hoot watching

[@Starkor990]

@@asnaghall are you stupid ?

[@metaloopa6907]

“It’s a bit like Lord of the Flies, but there is no murdering.” _the bar is in hell_

[@GodOfOrphans]

More specifically in Cocytus.

[@jesuszamora6949]

In the 9th circle. Satan is using it for playing limbo.

[@АъЪнт]

I would like your comment bro, but it has 666 likes already. And this is perfect IMO

[@DM-it1qf]

My autistic ass literally imagined a bar/pub in hell when I first read this.

[@meloneatingwolf1882]

@@jesuszamora6949 I don’t think he will have much luck there, not even paper could limbo under it.

[@gregoryfenn1462]

If you have to say “well, there was no murdering” as a defence... that’s not a good sign.

[@inspectorjavert8443]

That's like the absolute lowest bar you have to clear...

[@BattleManiac7]

Right? I feel like that's so basic it's below the bare minimum for any definition of, not even 'good', but 'alright' entertainment. Whoever wrote that was grasping at straws to defend themselves with.

[@AH-tu3km]

Writing this down, this is my quote of the day

[@angelofchaos8233]

We beat the hell out of each other until near death....but no murder.

[@13MRBrooks]

IF they would've left the show for too long it would have been likely

[@ducksarecool9306]

"It's a bit like Lord of the Flies, but there is no murdering" He says that like it's a good thing

[@dia8183]

"no murdering" is a very low bar

[@Xehanort10]

It's a bit worrying that he seemed to want them to kill each other.

[@littlekitsune1]

@@dia8183 Seemed to be the only rule in practice, tbh. They only intervened when they tried to murder a hedgehog, and when they tied up a boy and came at him with baseball bats.

[@itamarolmert3549]

@@littlekitsune1 didn't he say they didn't intervene when they tied the boy up?

[@victoriashevlin8587]

It's like how the second documentary here was called "Not as bad"... I'm mean, that is a Hell of a qualifier...

[@hull_k0gan641]

This reminds me of an AskReddit that was basically “What experiment would you conduct if ethics weren’t an issue?”

[@6Six6Six6Bruh]

For me, it would be how long a human can survive completely isolated from birth, with only an AI that has basic communication skills as company in a sterile environment

[@fatalityin1]

@@6Six6Six6Bruh We already had that with apes, the harry harlow one. The 60-90s were a wild ride of experiments without regulations and cruel at that, currently the russians are in the lead with keeping a dog alive (I won't go into detail, my comment just gets autoblocked). If I were to ever test anything without ethics, I would genetically engineer the shit out of human babies, thousands of them, and collect knowledge on how to create superhumans.

[@Sage0fThiccPaths]

@@fatalityin1 Yo if you ever figure out how to create them, hit me up. I wanna become a Super Soldier like the Space Marines lmao

[@anarchomando7707]

@@fatalityin1 so eugenics

[@Sky_Cloud]

@@anarchomando7707 not necessarily since eugenics is based around selective breeding for the best possible hereditary traits, what the guy talked about was directly editing human babies’ genetics until they found the right set of genetics for a superhuman

[@adrianomaly1760]

Crucial missing info re: Lord of the Flies: The book was specifically supposed to address the fact that these were Eton type boys. Who were beaten and not supposed to show any emotional weakness growing up. That they were boys who were going to grow up and be pushed through a system that favoured them being in government. The whole point of Lord of the Flies was “how about we teach children the value of empathy instead of beating it out of them?” And “can’t you see that having these same traumatised people, once they are adults, as heads of state, is a really bad idea? That the choices they make will not have sufficient humanity to them?” Etc. So this show was inherently leaning far more towards addressing gendered bullying and gender roles than it ever had anything in common with Lord of the Flies.

[@technicallythecenteroftheu1349]

That's really interesting. I love LotF but I never knew that context.

[@knshinn2]

Um, no. It was about Humanity in general's ability to succumb to evil, and how even the discipline of a public school isn't enough to help with that - it's never named as Eton, and there's not even a hint that these kids are favoured for government positions. That's entirely your projection. But hey, turn a powerful tale about good and evil, empathy and callousness into class war platitudes. Cheers.

[@MatthewTheEmperor]

@@knshinn2 Mate everyone has different interpretations of the message media might want to tell and there are also other versions of the book like a movie those other versions might have said that about the boys. Do you also have to be dick about the way he saw it? And he's not projecting he is simply stating what he thinks.

[@re1010]

​@@knshinn2 um, dude, when did he disregard empathy and callousness? He literally said that tge kids are taught to be callous and not empathetic. Also, at no point are all the kids considered inherently evil. Aside from Jack and Roger, most of them just feel the need to survive, which Jack provides, while Roger enforces.

[@prettyoriginalnameprettyor7506]

It’s almost as if there’s a reason we have people raise children instead of dumping them head first into living alone

[@sarroumarbeu6810]

Oh wait you're into something ಠಿ_ಠಿ

[@Butter_Warrior99]

Wow, who would've thought.

[@apinchofstars5465]

Maybe its the trauma idk

[@kaihanstein52]

You dont get it. The kids were NOT raised properly. Seemingly they did not know how to act with other kids on their own at all! But they re just kids, right? Means, they cant know better, since they re soo joung. Right, just LOOK at them: they re basically toddlers! And when they go to collegue, they STILL act like damn toddlers and whine about just everything and still need parental guidance like "trigger warnings" and stuff like this. but hey, at least they dont SMOKE anymore! THAT would be REALLY bad!

[@apinchofstars5465]

@@kaihanstein52 ...Sir who hurt you? You good?

[@n.ayisha]

when one pre-teen is asking another pre-teen if they're suicidal... that is the point when adults should have ALREADY been involved.

[@YourFriendlyOnlineStranger]

How the hell are the other kids more concerned for this girl's well-being than the adults meant to supervise them?

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Fucking right! Also, what idiots think you need to simulate Lord of the Flies in reality for entertainment and experiment? The guy who wrote the book and the book itself makes it clear that this is not a good thing to be emulated or experimented with. And all the "results" of these extremities of nature and human behaviour have been studied and demonstrated at varying degrees by science and psychology before and after. We already KNOW this is what happens when you put kids into a situation like this. So its not a necessary experiment. And it sure as fuck is not entertainment.

[@marocat4749]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 Also that guy was a school teacher, you can eplore that perfectly fine, asking the experience of teachers. Like the lord of the flies himself drew from a class of his. Aside that the intent to escalate a soial experiment is always bad, ask zimbardo, there ill alway be the intention to get some results, and the showmakers were even worse, using children. Also that redhaired kid that scrared so much, needed help. And the girl with potential selfharm.

[@jirjeesal-shammaa8246]

Why did they even go their? They are children. They should not think or worry about his stuff.

[@TheWoostergirl]

@@valentinegonsalves7322 Funny thing, while what Golding wrote is a pure fiction some years later a fter the publication something similar happened, a group of boys took a fishing boat and end up being stranded on a deserted island for 15 months. They survived by helping each other, building a small community and even healing their companion broken leg.

[@Xehanort10]

If even a young girl was scared one of the other girls might be suicidal then adults should have definitely picked up on it.

[@EmilysAdventuresInHorrorland]

Hey Xehanort! Fancy seeing you here 😁

[@EmilysAdventuresInHorrorland]

But yes, someone should have intervened

[@Xehanort10]

@@EmilysAdventuresInHorrorland Hello Emily. Last time I saw you in these comments was on the Sierra Burgess video.

[@joshualeahy2162]

Yep but eh good entertainment in their eyes ig.

[@joshualeahy2162]

@@EmilysAdventuresInHorrorland c:

[@itssj974]

I saw “Girls Alone” a few months ago, and one of the things that shocked me the most was how Sharday made one of the girls tell stories about sex and r*pe and also told her own stories. But then the next day, she tried to make it seem like the other girl came up with it on her own. There are psychologist there, but NONE of them pulled her aside afterwards to see why she would say something like that? Or if something happened to her?

[@xakirax_8864]

That's disturbing as hell

[@completely100percenthuman]

Poor girl. I wonder if her acting out was bc or abuse or trauma.

[@abloodcorpse3318]

Oh she was definitely going through some fucked shit. I mean she acts like a prick then shuts down and locks herself away in a bathroom? That's fucking coping, and a bathroom is probably the one place she feels actually safe in. While she comes out later looking alright I can almost bet she was drying her tears.

[@xakirax_8864]

@@abloodcorpse3318 Suprised NOONE saw the signs

[@digitalharmony26]

@@xakirax_8864 pretty sure the adults saw the signs...that’s the worst part.

[@BjornThePiper]

There was a series of experiments in the 50s called "Robber's Cave" that was basically this, but even more deliberately engineered to be Lord of the Flies like. It took place in a Summer camp, and boys were put into rival teams which they got to name themselves, and they had to compete in various ways. As you'd guess, there was strong rivalry between the teams, but unlike this TV show *within* teams there was a lot of cooperation and everything went smoothly. (The two teams' huts were some distance from each other) ... And then there was that one time the experimenters decided to create as much friction between the teams as possible by sabotaging them in various ways and making it look like the rival team did it. Weirdly there was *more* friendliness between the teams - they'd apologize for the things they hadn't even done, and offered to make it up to their rivals. And then they figured out they were being manipulated and both teams ganged up against the experimenters! lol

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

I wanna watch that.

[@xakirax_8864]

Aw

[@ericamborsky3230]

It probably went so well because: a. They were probably not hand picked to be a bunch of brats for entertainment purposes b. They were given tasks to complete and thus, did not suffer from the same boredom.

[@Sky_Cloud]

@@ericamborsky3230 plus they had an “enemy” already, which lessens the chance of creating enemies within when there is enemies without beforehand

[@IsaacCahn]

would watch that because i want to know what the kids did once they learned they were getting manipulated

[@LizzaRob160]

Ah yes that infamous lord of the flies quote, “maybe there is a beast, maybe it’s only corrupt show runners”

[@rollingon5566]

Get a life Liz, goddamn

[@lanietalk]

@@rollingon5566 said the

[@ddjsoyenby]

"ok we'll abandon these boys on the island"

[@grettoonist4997]

@@rollingon5566 So there is practically no clear context you give as to why you would think that Elizabeth needs to get a life. If you would like to specify your position, that would be really helpful, but there are a few angles to take this, and they all make you look bad. Let’s start with the worst implication: that you want to shield these showrunners from people like Elizabeth making fun of them. I don’t think this needs to be said, but considering this comment, it might have to be said to you: these showrunners who exploited children and their parents for ratings and tried to pass the buck onto the kids for not being manly enough, do not deserve your defence. And the only reason why you would do so to begin with is if you were as malicious or incompetent as them. So let’s go down the list of what these people did, starting off with how things went. Children were left to drink bleach, became hungry and homesick, because they didn’t know how to cook because they wouldn’t have been taught that yet, they ended up eating enough sweets for a fight to go on. And Channel 4 decided instead of breaking things up, could only see pound sterlings in their eyes, and thought, “This is appropriate and suitable to put in our trailer for everyone to see!” Also, one boy pulled a kitchen knife on the other and it isn’t clear if the chaperones realised that they needed to intervene before things could get legitimately fatal. Two girls smoked on camera, bullying broke out in both houses, these children have been emotionally impacted by all of this for sure. In the case of Boys and Girls Alone (2009), the people at Channel 4 decided that God Save the Queen, but Satan Save The Showrunners. Their response to the carnage that went on was to move the blame to the parents, for failing to raise them. These people were in charge of children, and yet are too stupid to know how children work. They even tried to shift the blame onto the children themselves for not being manly, like literal supervillains in a parody where they scoff at those rightfully calling them pricks. One truly braindead spokesperson said that there were “just flying fists, tears and lashings of cruelty.” However, “there is no murdering.” If this spokesperson came out to be an actual psychopath, I wouldn’t be less surprised. Because you need to have a bar down into hell to think that murder is where the line is crossed in a house run by kids. This is why other companies and broadcasters hire educated people, and are run by educated people. This happened in 2009, and unless Channel 4 can prove to me that they have changed with more sensible leadership, accountability and having those jesters and psychopaths in their company sacked, I would only choose them if it was the one thing keeping me off the streets, and even then it would take me hours to consider the job. But okay, back to the comment. Do you stand by all of that? And consider anyone who dares to mock these idiots should “get a life”? Because to reiterate, if that’s the case, you are either just as malicious, or just as incompetent and these clowns. God, I hope it isn’t the case. In fact, maybe it isn’t, maybe it’s the other implication. That because Elizabeth is referencing Lord of the Flies, you somehow think that’s pathetic and that she should get a life. Well, that would be a step up from defending those with future tickets to hell, but that’s as a low of a bar as saying that at least there was no murder. Because that means you’re ridiculing her for… knowing about Lord of the Flies and using it at the showrunner’s expense? How on earth is that sad, or pathetic, or renders your life as worthless? That’s just borderline ridiculous. If you mean that reading Lord of the Flies and having enough knowledge of it to make a relevant snarky comment is apparently wasting her life, that’s just a disrespect to author William Golding. Because even if you don’t like the book, it’s taught in the school curriculum for good reason. Not to mention, for any reasons why you would say it, whenever I see people telling others to get a life, I always ask myself, who put you in charge? Who gave you the position of dictator of what constitutes a life? Even the showrunners I’ve shown extreme disdain to, I wouldn’t tell them to get a life. Partially because they’re certainly doing something with it, but also because that’s none of my business, and it’s no different for you or any of the other self-proclaimed dictators of what constitutes a life. Why does this person making fun of immoral people while also showing her knowledge of a well-known book related to the subject bother you to the point where you feel the need to remind tell her to get a life, whatever your intentions may be? Besides, it’s not like you’re talking to someone who spends their time reviewing and collecting comic books as an example (though let me make clear that’s perfectly fine as well, it’s simply a template for what some people determine as an unfulfilled existence). This person just made a snarky comment, nothing “pathetic” to remotely grasp at!

[@rollingon5566]

@@grettoonist4997 I said it because she is my IRL best friend and I wrote the comment with her sitting next to me in philosophy class specifically for us both to see if anyone would try to decipher the strange lack of context, but goddamn I didn't expect anyone to actually care hahaha, I really enjoyed reading your comment though, it was probably the most detailed comment I've ever seen on anything

[@insanecowstar3008]

Sad thing is there are parents that raise their children this way. They believe that children are capable of raising themselves.

[@InfiniteSkiegh]

I dunno. I pretty much raised myself. I think I came out fine. Though, spaghetti noodles with chocolate syrup is still my favorite meal and I eat it 5 times a week...maybe I'm not well adjusted...

[@shrek_has_swag2344]

@@InfiniteSkiegh At least you discovered such a delicacy 🤷‍♂️

[@user-tx9eg4tc8o]

Yeah,my mom's like that,but i didn't end up terrible......but mentally speaking I'm not doing well imma be honest

[@alexroy5854]

@@user-tx9eg4tc8o I hope you pull through all of the pain and bullshit!

[@sleepysera]

I think to some degree, raising themselves is actually NECESSARY, especially if you want well-adjusted, independent adults one day. When I grew up, there was generally still a lot less focus on supervision than nowadays. We had spaces entirely to ourselves, we spent a lot of time on our own, and so on. And NONE of this ever happened. We took care of our stuff because we knew we wouldn't get new stuff if we broke it, we took care of the house because we knew we'd be the ones who'd have to live with whatever we did to it for years to come. There were no adults to tell us that we had to clean up or be careful with things because that knowledge had already been firmly established as important by the time we started being on our own (7+). I think a big "problem" with this was that they knew they'd be gone after 5 days and nothing they did would matter since it wasn't their own stuff that they broke. As for their diet - there have been proper scientific studies on if children still get all their proper nutrients and eat healthy enough if they get to decide the menu, and it turns out that yes, they do. Because while of course the first reaction is to go "ohh cool then we can have all the junk food and sweets we want!" they actually DO grow sick of only that rather soon and want more variety. Again, not something that would play out within a mere 5 days. That these kids didn't even have the option because they were never taught how to cook properly doesn't help either, but that's not the main issue imo. Anyways. Basically, just saying that children can be quite civilized and well-adjusted without adult intervention if they treasure the place and things and relationships with their peers.

[@jirjeesal-shammaa8246]

Did anyone else want to cry when one girl was sad Becuase she thought the experince was going to be fun but it was a nightmare for her? Children should not be crushed like this.

[@ForeverLaxx]

I wouldn't be surprised if they were sold a line, like "it'll just be like one long slumber party" or something. Kids always think it'll be fun without parents because they're not usually without parents for more than a few hours at a time. Stretch those few hours into an entire week and suddenly they don't know what to do anymore and revert to a tribal mentality.

[@eds6755]

She's better off learning how to handle disappointment early in life.

[@Niobesnuppa]

@@eds6755 Piss off. Inflicting trauma on a kid is never a good thing, no matter how you try to wrap it up in "tough love". This shit is scarring.

[@HJ-ju4ui]

@@Niobesnuppa the next generation is gonna be soft as shit if every mildly tough learning curve is labeled as ''traumatizing'' those kinds of kids that are sheltered as hell will always as adults crumble at the slightest inconvenience because they were never taught at home how to deal with hardship

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

@@HJ-ju4ui Weird how people are defending this as Tough Love, when it's literally just fat cat assholes literally manufacturing and scripting trauma to line their pockets for a big mega yacht. But sure, it's the kids fault for being soft and shit, I guess

[@strangeavocado9279]

Despite the havoc they reap, the girls’ first few actions, meals, decorating, and entertainment is actually pretty sweet

[@jackcouch8322]

Even sugar goes bad after some time

[@ColdFuse96]

Day 1: "Let's do a dance :D" Day 6: "L E T S S M O K E S O M E W E E D!!!!!!!"

[@IceFireTerry]

Calm before the storm

[@retrogaming2899]

@@ColdFuse96 lmao that’s literally what they were doing

[@anonymoustipster202]

I’d agree if you were talking about the 2003 version but I don’t know what the 2009 version is like.

[@clink_erton]

15:18 - _"but she writes a very depressing note"_ Okay, how bad could it be? _"And I feel so awful, I don't care about what happens to me."_ _"What is the matter? Are you suicidal?"_ O h . . .

[@renameagain5808]

i shouldnt have laughed at that scene

[@britishpigeon838]

God damn this show is disturbing, children are not supposed to be in situations like these. I feel sick

[@96javo53]

I agree, this is beyond fucked up.

[@geofff.3343]

It was the point of the book.

[@moongem4489]

@@geofff.3343 Nice how fiction books and acting exists to make the point, so there's no real need to put actual children in these kinds of situations.

[@benjirivoh]

@@geofff.3343 oh lord.

[@benjirivoh]

@UCuJs5EYgG3V0hsBxscvTMkQ this isnt twitter.

[@ranchoth]

So they say the children were "carefully chosen and screened, including by a psychologist"...I'm guessing this was to specifically filter 'out' the responsible, well-adjusted, interpersonally skilled kids who were capable of opening and heating up a can of beans in an emergency. "Boy Scouts and Farm Girls Alone" probably wouldn't have gotten as much press or butts in seats, admittedly.

[@Fabianwew]

Seems like they chose one extreme trouble maker for both genders too.

[@cwg9238]

yeah they deliberately chose brats, for the sake of melodrama. in plenty parts of the world its not an alien concept that kids have responsibilities and discipline. only in the upper-class west are they coddled and sheltered and kept infantilized for as long as possible.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Yep exactly how they choose adults for reality TV. Then the creators act suprised when the contestants get bullied, suffer mental health problems etc.

[@cwg9238]

@@NotAnotherKuromi thats why Survivor was so popular, we got to see a bunch of psychos.

[@TaliVarda100706]

This just reminds me of the 13 reasons why people saying 'we have a psychologist on set to advise us on how to portray certain scenes' and then just blatently ignoring anything the psychologist said about portraying self harm, assault etc.

[@Groomsman]

Yeah, there was a reason why the man at the end of “The Lord of the Flies” was disappointed in the boys

[@mrbubbles6155]

It's been awhile since I readed it, but wasn't the navy captain disappointed that the boys didn't handle being shipwrecked without supplies or shelter like proper British men?

[@Groomsman]

@@mrbubbles6155 Yeah pretty much

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

And then he looked over at his ship and before silently asking himself if he was any better

[@kungfuvoodoo9889]

When I was first making this comment, I was about to talk about how it's a bit different due to the boys being from military school but in the process of factchecking myself I realized that wasn't the case in the original book but rather the 1990 film which was my first experience with the story. Still, I think that's what makes the 1990 film a bit more tragic as the idea is that the boys were supposed to be better trained for situations like that due to the structure that provided them with discipline, but as soon as that structure was removed things just devolved all the same so that's why the man at the end was disappointed. But maybe in the book the idea was sort of the same due to it being written in a different era when boys most likely did have more discipline (and of course it's completely fictional anyways so who knows how accurate it would have been if it actually happened back then). Putting aside the horrible moral implications of doing a show like this, the premise is fundamentally not interesting to me because of course real kids in the modern era without as much discipline being put through something like this (with an almost completely negligent camera crew) will wind up in an awful situation. Everybody knows that even if you don't teach children lot of discipline you at least have to provide constant guidance to them until they reach maturity.

[@wanderingoryx3710]

@@kungfuvoodoo9889 constant guidance? Whatever happened to faithful raising and putting confidence in a child and their abilities?

[@reesepiece331]

''...only intervene for safety reasons.'' *Crew just keeps recording a gang of boys tying up another boy*

[@hannahlack1061]

I might be misremembering but I feel like they left him out there overnight as well.

[@apoptosisduellinks109]

@@hannahlack1061 He got out quickly and didn't seem upset

[@KarlSnarks]

The most real comparison to Lord of the Flies is actually pretty hopeful. In 1977 a group of young boys from Tonga decided to skip school and go sailing with a stolen boat. They end up stranded on a inhabited island. While they have a hard time, they manage to have a very peaceful little society. The few times some of the boys have tension between them, the others send them to different parts of the island until they're willing to work together again. After 15 months they're found, and they stay life-long friends with each other and the guy that saved them. Link for reference: /watch?v=eDz-331V-pY (the video clips of them on the island is a reenactment, obviously) Granted those boys were significantly older than the children in this show or the fictional children in LotF (the youngest was 13, the oldest 16) but it's still an interesting story.

[@unclenought6385]

Show runners: “Well we would have intervened when that young girl locked herself in the bathroom and wrote a note threatening to hurt herself, but uh, you see, no hedgehogs were at risk so we didn’t.”

[@meloneatingwolf1882]

Priorities!

[@darthplagueis13]

I mean, fair enough, hedgehogs are cute.

[@unclenought6385]

@@darthplagueis13 I know that’s where I draw the line

[@unclenought6385]

@Jean Sanchez yes. We care about hedgehog and only hedgehog. Reject cat, embrace hedgehog.

[@ayyylmao101]

@@unclenought6385 Maybe don't embrace the hedgehog from the top, though. Pointy...

[@cubeincubes]

The fact everyone freaked out and the parents took ZERO responsibility COMPLETELY proves the point the show originally was trying to make

[@NanoMan737400]

What responsibility do you want them to take if they could do nothing at all to stop that mayhem from happening?

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@NanoMan737400 They could have demanded to have their children pulled out of the show, or never allowed then to participate in the first place.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

ah hell oh boy

[@clockwork4255]

@@OtakuUnitedStudio what was the point the show was trying to make? Also the video makes it seem like the ppl who were making a fuss weren't the parents of the kids involved.

[@Xehanort10]

It's Channel 4's fault for making it and the parents fault for letting the kids be on it.

[@simonio6655]

They literally use the dark souls font for 'boys and girls alone'

[@lizzystarkk7467]

Yeah but dark souls didnt exist then so it really had no relevance

[@littlekitsune1]

That is hilarious in retrospect.

[@t.r2603]

Gonna take more than Estus Flask and some Humanity to fix that psychological damage

[@_stupidbro]

@TwistedGamer Nah.

[@adam.n-steve]

@@lizzystarkk7467 It's a joke buddy.

[@JJ-vh8ex]

I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the amount of times the girls house discussed tons of r rated things with each other and that was just what the film makers kept in the film. God only knows what they said and did that wasn’t included

[@scp--297]

What?

[@JJ-vh8ex]

@@scp--297 if you watch it, the girls alone episode is filled with them saying really bizarre heavy things

[@squarelar]

@@JJ-vh8ex I too am intrigued by this, but too lazy to google them myself, could you please give some example, thanks buddy

[@sibanipanigrahy5509]

Oh my god☹️

[@SéaFid]

Shows the feminine mind is warped and in need of patriarchy to make them less degenerate.

[@cg6176]

This just reminds me of school. But without the psychologists or cameras.

[@TokioTE]

Completely agree. I wonder if the British audience see the documentary differently to the American (and any other countries) perspective here.

[@sinistertwister686]

So... just like my school was.

[@crownpenguin9180]

Same here

[@weregretohio7728]

So true, pure suffering with indifferent adults.

[@Leotheleprachaun]

Cameras and psychologists...in your school....what...

[@liamcollinson5695]

At least one of the girls actually had the sense to leave

[@tbk2010]

The only winning move is not to play.

[@littlekitsune1]

I think several boys did too, but were afraid they'd get shamed as being "weak" for it.

[@littlekitsune1]

@Amanda Aquafina That and one of them called her useless and apparently bullied her on top of it.

[@-Hyperdryve-]

@@littlekitsune1 And that's such shit too, calling the only one doing the work "useless" is pretty nasty

[@vaishnavinayak5917]

Probably because of gender dynamics. If a boy leaves he is considered weak due to his "cowardice". If a girl leaves, she's just missing out. It's very sad that those boys felt pressured to stay in a hostile situation.

[@JLongbone]

Pretty sure their parents watch reality shows, and one day they thought "toxic environment, dirty conditions, fights...i'll let my kid be part of that"

[@CynicalReviews]

Pretty much. Many of the parents were happy for their kids to take part and had no regrets.

[@brokengirlsrus]

Fancy seeing you here, Boney! Love your channel

[@aliquisvultteisus1012]

Wait, some the parents were like "No regrets! LOL!" What in the actual fuck?

[@jack1701e]

Probably not much different to their home lives sadly...

[@LyleVSXyle]

Hey, J 🦇🚺

[@michaelhegwood9977]

There was actually a article a while back about how the kids turning on each other like LOTF isn't entirely true and kids will often try to take care of each other, SO for better TV the hosts and producers will often intervine to create conflict.

[@comyuse9103]

they absolutely selected for kids that would make trouble. maybe not all of them, that one girl concerned with suicide and the boys that tried to create some order were alright kids, but then you had kids like that boy who just screamed or that girl who kept trying to get attention. they were there solely to strain the rest of the kids into making poor choices.

[@otimo144]

@@comyuse9103 Ya but that is kind of the mess though isn't it? If you hand pick people the experiment is kind of worthless since trouble makers are everywhere. Also lord of the flies is kind of like the Behavioral sink Experiment. It isn't just that the kids where left alone it is also that they are forced to stick together in a relatively small location.

[@CynicalReviews]

Yeah the real life LOTF was much more wholesome.

[@aaa1e2r3]

Yeah, one of the contestants from Kid Nation did an AMA on Reddit a while back and they stated out right that the crew created events for drama. For example, because the kids were actually pretty good about cleaning up after themselves, the crew had to fill the town with trash and the like for the sake of an episode's events.

[@marocat4749]

They do that in reality shows too, at least pressuring certain behavours, but there,its messed up.And shaming children that did clean up.

[@bread4945]

I saw these documentaries years ago when I was a kid and even then they really disturbed me. Micheal and Sharday's behavior, the fact that the boys tried to kill a hedgehog, and that the girls where so flippantly talking about SA, suicide, and EDs was concerning. I hope those kids are doing well now.

[@anonymousperson1771]

The only thing stopping this from being a horror movie is a villian tossing the boys pointy sticks and saying only the winner gets to leave.

[@xakirax_8864]

There was a criminal minds episode about this but it was 3 girls

[@gracevidal-hall6230]

As someone who is neurodivergent but wasn't diagnosed as a child, I'm absolutely terrified to consider what this experience could have been to any of these kids if they were vulnerable in that kind of way. I know for a fact that I would have come away traumatized.

[@littlekitsune1]

Hell, I was secondhand traumatized just watching it. Can't imagine actually being in that situation.

[@adaroben1104]

Given the tone was to see if the UK was raising a generation of "cotton-wool kids" it sounds like the show runners wouldn't necessarily view it as trauma... I get a "if you're crying you need a slap to toughen up" vibe. Hopefully the show runners don't have children of their own.

[@cookie_space]

I was thinking the same. I'm not on the spectrum but am overly sensible and I felt anxiety rising just thinking about being in there as a kid.

[@themudpit621]

Well, apparently they were screened by psychologists beforehand for things like that, but I think what they were really screening for was personality types likely to make good TV.

[@GrandCorsair]

I can't imagine the over stimulation. I feel stressed just watching it second hand.

[@jamescollier9196]

Animal cruelty is where the crew draws the line, but child abuse is fine.

[@michalaswindail783]

I mean the cat was left alone without intervention, so they basically just draw the line at hedgehogs. Maybe the guy's favourite animal was a hedgehog? Idk

[@dawpps]

"I can excuse -racism- child abuse, but I draw the line at animal cruelty."

[@livymiso]

@@dawpps "You can excuse racism?"

[@livymiso]

@nnioop nnioop it's from a show (Community) and I was quoting the next line :)

[@livymiso]

@nnioop nnioop oh you totally didn't, no need to apologize!!!!

[@Charlie-up8hy]

What kind of parent allows something like this? You would think that having raised a child for about 10 years already they would know that something like this could only go wrong? Like they should know what children are like, because they gave them?

[@Olebull93]

I just cant believe that this is can be sold as entertainment. And that the government didn't pull the plug on this.

[@smalltiny]

are you a parent? when you become a parent and actually care about your kid, you realize how little people actually care about their children and mostly do the socially expected things and not a single thing more for them

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

It a amazes me how little some parents understand children despite having them. It boggles my mind that anyone has trouble understanding children, having been one at one time.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@smalltiny That isn't even remotely true for the majority of parents. And if that was the case with yours, I am sincerely sorry.

[@shawklan27]

@@smalltiny this

[@Blueberrycaprice]

The kids really quickly showed how much they look for boundaries - they instantly trash the place looking for intervention, and try to create structures to no avail. Basically, they show how horrible a show like this is for taking that security away from them

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

"You endangered children's safety and sanity!" "It was just a prank, bro."

[@Pipkiablo]

Anyone who has ever brought a child or younger sibling to a birthday party and then had to stay to watch them could have told the producers exactly what would happen here. I had to take my eleven years younger sister to a four year old's birthday and it was literally like walking into the Hunger Games.

[@16taysia]

Yikes... Good thing I and my sister are 27 and 17 years old now and that I was never subjected to that! 😂

[@missamieholly2313]

Hopefully no one died I assume?

[@Pipkiablo]

@@missamieholly2313 Well one of the moms went missing, but she turned up again a few days later buried alive under the swing set mumbling something about ice cream cake.

[@Elsa-wq5ug]

The Birthday Games

[@lillxproductions3234]

@@Elsa-wq5ug underrated comment

[@msjkramey]

I think I could do 90% of the things that needed to be done by those kids as a kid myself at their ages. That's solely because I was the oldest sibling with 2 overworked parents and I had to grow up fast. I was basically "mom" starting at a too young of an age. And none of this is a brag because it also hindered me. That last 10% of important things are still ones that I struggle with to this day: emotional regulation, compromise without being a pushover, mental health, social skills. I lived in a bubble for so long and I can do anything around the house, make repairs, soothe a crying child, give first aid. But the me-centered stuff... I'm lost. Yes, kids need to be taught life skills, but it's not *their* fault for not knowing them. And when all you teach them is the "practical" stuff, you're missing the bigger picture. And kids also just need to be kids sometimes. That's important for development, too

[@Rowankeenanx3]

The most relatable comment I've stumbled across. Growing up being a door mat has caused me to accept so much unnecessary pain from others because I can't say no. Wish that was something I learned

[@ve2vfd]

Many kids can and will take care of themselves just fine, but these shows being crappy "reality tv" I would not be surprised if the kids had been chosen SPECIFICALLY for their helplessness, lack of basic home skills or common sense. Makes for "better tv" after all... *groan*

[@5am_nightmares]

What your describing is called adultification in psychology and sociology, which often happens to older siblings with overwhelmed parents. Thought having a term for it might be helpful for you :) There's also a gender and race aspect to that, like "girls are more mature" and especially black and lantina girls being sexualized incredibly early.

[@conorodea9346]

I amnt trying to downplay your childhood independence, but it can be hard to look back at yourself and know for certain how would you react this sort of situation.

[@msjkramey]

@@5am_nightmares thank you. That actually does help. There's just something about learning that there's a word for what you went through that makes you feel less alone. All that said, I feel great pride in how my siblings are turning out and I wouldn't trade any of it for the world. Maybe it wasn't super ethical for a kid to be made to raise kids, but I feel an immense sense of pride when I help people now. That's all I want to do. I just need to learn how to help myself

[@TheSmartboy64]

Speaking as a high school teacher, you keep an eye on things and have to maintain some form of discipline. Even with high schoolers, who are more developed than a 10 year old, can do some dumb shit when allowed. I got some stories even when being present. You want to film a 'social experiment' with kids? Just go to a high school cafeteria. That's ground zero and no teacher in their right mind goes there. Its chaos. Side note, grats on the Music video getting its momentum back and hitting the #1 spot.

[@jojomang3016]

My high school didn't have a cafeteria. We just ate around the school where we felt like and honestly, I feel like that's better. It gives people a chance to spread out and not force kids to be close to people they have problems with.

[@TheSmartboy64]

@@jojomang3016 That's what my friends and I did in High School. If it was nice out we would just pack up and head outside. Much, MUCH better.

[@space_veggies]

@@TheSmartboy64 same, I always ate outside in the courtyard with my friends. The cafeteria was way too noisy and there were too many people in there. When it got cold in the winter we'd sneak by the teachers and eat in a hallway instead of outside in the cold

[@Bluey306]

@@jojomang3016 oh yeah that's way better. my high school experience had its regular teenage problems but the most grating of all was always the dang cafeteria. it also didn't help that our school was relatively new at the time and didn't anticipate getting more and more students each year, so it just got more and more cramped every year. they had the audacity to ban students from eating elsewhere, as if the cafeteria wasn't bursting at its seams every lunchtime. nothing stressed me out more than hoping we can grab a good seat at the cafeteria so that we could have a pleasant lunch period. it got a bit easier when they started doing year rotations (e.g. older students have earlier lunch times) but it still wasn't the nicest experience. i understand the staff being worried about cleanliness and all but MAN would i have liked the chance to eat somewhere else with my friends at school. the nice parts of the lunch period was always *after* we finished eating and we'd disperse to a classroom or a random corner of the campus to chat or do our own stuff.

[@sephikong8323]

When talking about dumb stuff done by high schoolers at the high school cafeteria, it just reminds me of one of my friends who went there every day to take a cup of coffee or two and he would never use the little plastic stick (idk how it's called) that you're supposed to stur the coffee with, and so instead of wasting it, he just put it in the interior pocket of his coat, everytime. At the end, it was as if he were holding like a pocket bible in his coat and he would frequently bring one of those things out as his universal answer to questions he didn't know the answer, and as I still speak with him, I can testify that he *still* has those in the pocket of his coat to this day, he has kept these for around 5 years ....... I don't think it was what you meant exactly, but damn thinking back, I really wonder about what we did back then if it didn't shock us that much and we just mildly laughed at it

[@milhy6567]

If a child can tell another child is at risk of attempting suicide, you have failed as a human being for standing there with a camera on. I don't care if they're under contract to not intervene or whatever, every single adult failed to show basic humanity at that moment.

[@screamingcactus1753]

"Now for our next reality television show, we leave a six year old child alone in a locked room for twenty-four hours with nothing but a knife and a loaded gun!"

[@TheCynicalEngineer]

"Doesn't include murder" wow what lofty heights for standard television you have reached

[@TheBlackBrickStudios]

Weird, it's almost like kids don't have the capacity to live independent lives, and rely on their parents' guidance and protection until they mentally and physically mature so they can live and support themselves independently. We're really breaking new ground here...

[@nicoleackerman205]

I know my mind is blown.

[@chaosincarnate7304]

Holy fucking shit! You mean to say human children that have EVOLVED to depend on their guardians and community for protection, which is the sole reason why they cry in the first place,? Since they have no fear of attracting predators. Or are so weak they can't walk unlike many other animals that age because they are developing intelligence which isn't an instinct or something the human mind can reproduce without dangerous trial and error they have no need for since they can develop slowly and efficiently by relying on others? Woow!

[@b.d6642]

If you listen closely you can hear someone saying it with a very sarcastic tone

[@trinidad17]

And here we come to place in the comments that think reality shows are totally for realz. They had people looking after them, but tried to not appear on camera or did just edit out when they had to, shocking, I know, the existence of fiction is not something people can reasily deal with, as even exaplained on this same video.

[@gamingforever9121]

It’s a bit like lord of the flies alright stop ✋ right their cancel it right now.

[@rebbyra]

something like "Lord of the flies" should be a warning, not a goal

[@Liessssssssssss]

What you mentioned about Sharday was only the tip op the iceberg. If you watch the whole thing, you will notice she is saying a lot of disturbing things that the other girls simply don't understand but the adults definitely should've intervened and get her and her parents in therapy

[@Steven-pb4wn]

Honestly, boys alone reminds me of pleasure island in pinnochio

[@CynicalReviews]

Not a bad comparison actually.

[@JimmehRulez]

E

[@Xehanort10]

With Channel 4 as the coachman.

[@littlekitsune1]

The PS2 game "Rule of Rose" has a brutal hierarchy of young girls as another good example in fiction, too.

[@Steven-pb4wn]

@@Xehanort10 they probably even came out traumatised

[@Shermansart]

Cynical: “Executives will always find ways to exploit children for views” Cuties: *sweats nervously*

[@littlekitsune1]

I'd be curious to see him do a video on KZbinr/influencer family vlogs and how much it's coming to light that they exploit their kids for views (having babies just for more views, knowingly letting predators watch, etc). This made me think of it, weirdly enough.

[@thecinematicmind]

@@littlekitsune1 The fact Daddyofive is not in prison baffles me.

[@littlekitsune1]

@@thecinematicmind Same.

[@ddjsoyenby]

yes.

[@hyacinthmenace]

Cuties is Great your Just Mean (this was posted on April 1st just so you know)

[@ddjsoyenby]

"lord of the flies" was not meant to be a guidebook for reality tv dammit.

[@rainbowdemon5033]

Isn't there also a British Show "how to train your child like a dog" or something? Some German TV Company picked up the concept and it was a huge scandal bc it's literally a dog trainer coming to families and "helping" the parents raise their children with clickers and treats

[@sinko3811]

What the hell? I'm german and I never heard of it, but it sounds pretty awful (were they perhaps inspired by the South Park episode? 🤣)

[@rainbowdemon5033]

@@sinko3811 I think it was RTL that picked it up but it also only got to air one episode or so.

[@sinko3811]

@@rainbowdemon5033 Of fucking course it's RTL. Should've known...

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@sinko3811 hey it worked on Cartman, it should work on any troubled kid who isn't Jeffrey Dahmer

[@poprocks6576]

As a kid this is terrifyingly the idea of being in a house without my parents filled with other kids sounds terrifying I feel so bad for all of them

[@rosykindbunny1313]

As an introvert, it sounds ten times more terrifying

[@claudiasaini2782]

I don't think they had a qualified psychologist at all or they would stop the filming and help the girls in that depressive situation.

[@n1ppzmagee]

Even if they did, that person obviously cares more about the money. But I guess we wouldn't no for sure the lady mite of flipped on the producers alot of times and they could of just ignored her.

[@claudiasaini2782]

@@n1ppzmagee a qualified psychologist who has some integrity in their professional area should say something to someone. It is possible someone in the production/edit section had cut off the part where the psychologist tried to stop the situation, but after that, why keep the suicidal girl on the screen? It would damage the show further than a psychologist that helps in a potential suicide case. As a showrunerr I would try to turn out the best way possible and if I could prove my effort, why don't show it? I hope it is clear, my english is basic, I am Italian 😅.

[@n1ppzmagee]

@@claudiasaini2782 thats a good point. I guess will never no for sure what happend, unless there's some interview with the kids after they got older.

[@claudiasaini2782]

@@n1ppzmagee I agree totally.

[@MegaNymphia]

I'm just going to say this as someone who works at an animal shelter with families and doing adoptions: Usually the kids who arent taught by their parents how to respectfully handle animals and give them space when needed, are the same kids who grow up to be absolute nightmares to not only animals but other people as well. it's like they dont have as much of a grasp on empathy and boundaries is my guess

[@KarlSnarks]

I'm not surprised that parents who raised their kids like that, are the type of parents to sign them up for a reality show ;)

[@ForeverLaxx]

@@KarlSnarks Just like with Cuties, all the parents see is an opportunity for their "little baby" to become a star and live vicariously through them.

[@GrubbyGub]

Yeah I get that ;-; but the crew definitely should’ve intervened

[@mal_3157]

Children don’t develop empathy till 11

[@MegaNymphia]

@@mal_3157 I would love to see the sources saying this, since children as young as 6 months old start showing cognitive awareness of emotions, which is the foundation of empathy. there is not a certain age were the empathy switch suddenly flips, it is learned through development of emotional awareness. that happens far before 11

[@AmberCommentsThings]

"This was a terrible idea" *Mmmyes, the floor here is made out of floor*

[@Bea-xl9rb]

Here in Sweden, all crime is illegal

[@benjirivoh]

if you stab someone they will die.

[@anthonykeller1957]

My floor is made of hickory

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

Who even needed this crap for entertainment? Even if you remove all the scientific precedent and go off of the entertainment standpoint, Big Brother and Get Me Out Of Here exist. This shit doesn't work with adults with fully functioning brains (not really). Putting kids into a scenario like this is heinous. How about get some other dumb celebs and politicians and recreate Animal Farm?

[@Snow-xd4rv]

I’m your 1,000th like

[@arnold20139]

Oh man, I thought he was gonna talk about the horrible reality show: Kid Nation. I didn't know there was a British version of that. What a time to be alive.

[@Inbal_Feuchtwanger]

The girl who locked herself in the bathroom and wrote the note is when I was fully on board that they need to intervene. It should be mentioned they did intervene with the boys when they were actually trying to hurt an animal(cat?) in the bushes. I can get not rescuing an irritated cat or immediately tending to a minor injury. I think the worst part really is the psychological damage. From what I could tell there was no effort made to make this a learning experience. Imagine if half of it was going over their behavior and teaching empathy. The show would have a whole different feel and actually might have done something positive.

[@1leon000]

"It should be mentioned they did intervene with the boys when they were actually trying to hurt an animal(cat?) in the bushes." cynical clearly said that they tried to hurt a HEDGEHOG

[@probablyhuman9947]

@@1leon000 chill dude, people make mistakes

[@infinessia4019]

“We chose perfectly well adjusted children just to show how quickly one can warp and traumatize them.” -Some producer on this show no doubt.

[@funsies8107]

that straight up sounds like something a super villain would say or a crazy scientist "The intention of the experiment was to see how easy you can break something that has no signs of breaking" it has THAT kind of vibe, It fucking sounds like it came from a badly written super villain

[@TheArceusftw]

@@funsies8107 So in other words the bastard lovechild of Chris from the Total Drama series, and Shiro Kanzaki from Kamen Rider Ryuki?

[@breana2734]

They had full episodes on KZbin a few years ago and it made my jaw drop . The fact these kids parents LET them do this and didn’t expect it to effect them when they got home.. and the lack of basic things like knowing how to use a microwave

[@RaxusXeronos]

Money makes people do stupid shit. They were obviously paid to let their kids run amok in a house unsupervised

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

At first I thought If I was there nothing like that would have happened But now I realize that I would have done just as much as everyone else, I know the things that I know now because I was passionate about them and didn't do what everyone was doing but in this situation I would have just copied everyone to fit in or more accurately survive

[@littlekitsune1]

Yeah, like I know it's a stereotype that men can't cook, but holy hell this really highlighted how that problem is caused by parents not even teaching them the basics from a young age. That actually genuinely shook me when I saw how they acted in the kitchen vs the girls. No reason for that incompetence in parenting.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Social Services will eat well tonight.

[@RaxusXeronos]

@@littlekitsune1 Tbf 1. Kids that young aren't going to be taught that unless A. they ask or B. it's necessary due to household situation. 2. Once they're older all you really need to start cooking is basic reading comprehension and maybe a timer nowadays with a lot of foodstuff having instructions on how to prepare it.

[@camilorodriguez5603]

*Looks at my box of currently unpainted miniatures* “Emperor knows I do know Cynical”

[@TheSmartboy64]

I can never get into 40k because of the amount of work and prep for an army, let alone the cost.

[@comyuse9103]

@@TheSmartboy64 there isn't that much work you gotta put in, you don't _need_ to paint them after all, but my god the price is ridiculous. games workshop are total shit heels with their pricing nonsense.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@comyuse9103 the fact that they charge as much now for 1 plastic mini as they did for 3 pewter minis a few years ago shows just how far up their own large intestine they all are.

[@TheSmartboy64]

@@comyuse9103 Oh yeah. I got a buddy who plays 40k and it's the one thing he always brings up at the end of any conversation. Games Workshop pricing is the worst.

[@TheSmartboy64]

@TwistedGamer If it's a game I enjoy, lore isn't a problem. I'll read through it.

[@thefangirlingpuellamagi3345]

The way another child was able to immediately recognize that note was alarming while the cameramen were all "still not time to intervene"

[@elcannotspell]

I remember watching the second Boys Alone thing a few years ago when I was studying Lords of the Flies in school and the only thing I could think about was how similar the events are to the actual book (they elect a 'chief' that isn't listening to, the fat kid is relentlessly bullied, the loud boys and quiet boys create their own group, even killing the hedgehog together could be like the hunters killing the pig). I have no idea how much was scripted but I think it was either all scripted or the book is horrifically accurate on teen boys.

[@milktea6676]

British producer: I would like to do a reality show where all the kids are Stuck in a city with A bunch of cameras kinda like 1984

[@thatoneguy9582]

The Truman Show 2

[@alexanderf8451]

So its just any British children's book from the 20th century?

[@katie2275]

I mean there is big brother

[@ThatOneMan830]

Nah, it’s more like a weird version of The Truman Show. 1984 for kids... That’s terrifying to imagine.

[@AverageWagie]

So a bunch of kids walking through London

[@gezi5927]

This shows that every child should know how to cook, regardless of gender.

[@beasttitanofficial3768]

my grandma had me make rice when i was like 8

[@__yklim]

@@beasttitanofficial3768 rice... Lmao

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@__yklim what's funny?

[@holliisixx]

I know!!! At their age, they couldn't pour a bowl of cereal for breakfast?? That's the first thing i learned to do at a kiddie.

[@CryptP]

Fr though kids need to learn to cook way before they're adults

[@worlddomination92]

Was the clinical psychologist Dr. Phil? He seems to have a hobby of sending kids to terrible places...

[@spacebubble1552]

Aye

[@crouchingidiot]

you rlly EXPOSED him like that. true royalty

[@AlexBermann]

Knowing how reality tv works, they probably specifically looked to include children with particularily problematic behavior to escalate the situation. Even the food situation reeks of manipulation. If we exclude things that require cooking, why did they have access to sweets, but not to some food that doesn't need preparation? Also, there is the effect of a rather confined space. So even if the situation was "children stranded on an island", they probably wouldn't act like this.

[@ThanosTheManos]

Take away: this shouldn’t have happened, the crew should have done something, the parents shouldn’t have done this to their kids, and both boys and girls who are kids aren’t capable of making rational decisions or solving complex issues surrounding leadership and team work at a level that would ensure everyone had a mostly fun and comfortable time.

[@gustafandersson237]

Imagine being a parent and letting your kids go on one of these shows

[@shawklan27]

They must be a bunch of sociopaths then

[@gregoryfenn1462]

Money. Bet they got paid off

[@Monke12268]

Have CPS take them away

[@_valstrax_8748]

@@Monke12268 hopefully that happened, but I don't have high hopes.

[@CynicalReviews]

They thought it'd be a fun adventure, or they wanted their 5 minutes of fame.

[@man-wv8xj]

“lord of the flies” and “reality tv” should never mix

[@Liliana_the_ghost_cat]

Unless it's an reality tv were someone is reading the book "lord of the flies"

[@killminewin4733]

Read by Morgan Freeman or someone like that

[@MrLego3160]

I dunno, that bear grylls show was fun for a couple seasons, although that had adults

[@JC42023]

When I was 13, I had numerous problems with home and school, and even though I never watched any shows like Kid Nation, I knew of them and their premise, and ended up fantasizing frequently about how cool it would be to live in a society ruled by kids and young teens with no adults around, no more being required to go to school. At a young and impressionable age like I was, it's easy to view that as the ultimate freedom Watching videos about these series now, however, makes it clear just how much more miserable I would've easily been. I can't help but think how traumatized these kids must've been and wonder how they've been coping with it as adults.

[@crispyandspicy6813]

you know it's good when the highlight is that no one died. "Well we might've screwed up your kids and possibly even maimed them, but hey, you're lucky you got them back"

[@nicolehuff8455]

They probably just had the child psychiatrist there to claim that the kids were technically not on their own. But they clearly were. Whose idea was this?

[@Moonlitwatersofaqua]

Girls alone reminds me of this one time where I was at a sleepover and there was next to no parental supervision. The older sister of the birthday girl kept harassing her and picking fights with everyone and it just was chaos. There would be attempts to talk it out among the other girls but it didn't go well. And the worst part is this wasn't the only sleep over I've been to that was like this. Its worse when you are a kid because time feels like it moves so slow. Conclusion: don't leave a bunch of children alone to their own devices without supervision for very long.

[@LeleChanX3]

I find the concept of sleepovers so odd, my parents never allowed me to do this with my cousins much less basically strangers from school, we could visit each other but by six everybody had to go home. They only let me do sleepovers when I was 15 and had a cellphone, where were the parents when you guys would do this?

[@Roadent1241]

This sort of thing was bad enough in school WITH adult supervision, no wonder I was quite happy to sit in the corner with a book and be the 'wierdo' who wasn't causing trouble and now I'm thankful I didn't get asked to socialise with kids I only knew from school, didn't like as they didn't like me either.

[@Moonlitwatersofaqua]

@@LeleChanX3 They were around but some didn't always know how to handle the situations. And sometimes there's not always much adults can do. Sometimes all of the friends of the host don't mix well with one another and fights break out. That happened more than once. And there's just not much you can do about that. I personally never had that problem when I had my own sleepovers, but my parents limited how many friends could attend to 6 and child me had the sense not to invite friends who I thought would cause issues.

[@sethesteem]

about the boys alone and girls alone separate series: the house was for demolition afterwards anyway, so that's why it was used.

[@CynicalReviews]

That makes total sense.

[@fatalshore5068]

I wonder if they filmed the girls first as they already knew the boys would destroy it

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@CynicalReviews Are you a furry?

[@aaa1e2r3]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 He answered that in an AMA a while back

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@aaa1e2r3 im joking.

[@yamihatarou7850]

The shot of the eleven year old kid smacking himself in the face with the end of his jump rope sums up why this show was a bad idea

[@bmsg1]

You right Britis' boy they should have a license for that

[@user-ck7tg1dq9y]

I find it suprising that the boys called the psychologist for help while the girls didn't.

[@zombieguy4444]

This isn't a social experiment This is a bunch of adults leaving kids alone to go crazy and hate each other for the adult's amusement and wallets This is horrific

[@JUMBOSCLOWNROOMANDPINGPONG]

This is just going to end up like Kid Nation show. I don't predict this going well...

[@simonio6655]

When I read the title I thought it was kid nation

[@hotlinerevachol5436]

@@simonio6655 Same

[@abdullahmalik7217]

@@simonio6655 same

[@birdthenerd2163]

@@simonio6655 same

[@abdullahmalik7217]

@UCS-kpssqNXLEzzrrLS3gkXQ yeah it was a similar show, u should search up jontron kid Nation if u want a good vid on it

[@vampire847]

I disagree that we learned nothing. We learned there exists a list of people who belong in prison for child neglect and it was neatly compiled in the form of the credits of the shows!

[@midnightrant7487]

Shout-out to the girl who worried and asked if the other was suicidal

[@bashfulbreloom9294]

She wasn't worried. You can hear in her tone that it was more of an insult.

[@gregoryfenn1462]

@@bashfulbreloom9294 I can see it both ways, it’s a difficult thing for her at her age to process. I thought she seemed sincere and worried, but I can hear the other interpretation too.

[@littlekitsune1]

Sounded much more mocking and exasperated than worried, to me.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

I'm not British. But I've watched enough British TV to know that "are you mental?" and "are you suicidal" is more 8 times out of 10 an insult and not concern. 😂😂

[@themudpit621]

@@bashfulbreloom9294 she was talking loudly so she could be heard on the other side of the door.

[@rickydavis4325]

Cynical Reviews: Sharday locks herself in the bathroom also Cynical Reivews: Because there's no toilet in there, she eventually has to come out. Seems legit

[@TheAndrassa]

It’s more of American thing to have them in the one room. Europeans, Australians and many other countries usually have the toilet in a separate room.

[@tultsi93]

I live in Finland and the house I, my sister and parents live in, has two toilets. One is downstairs in its own room (don't worry, there's also a sink), when the other one is upstairs in the showerroom (and also sauna).

[@ColdFuse96]

@@TheAndrassa Scews me Whaaaaaaaaaat????????????? Are you really going to tell me it's better to have your toilet and your shower in two different rooms?!?!?

[@bluester7177]

@@TheAndrassa I don't think it's an American thing exactly, am not American but having the toilet and the shower in the same room is a normal thing in the part of Latin America I am, also baths are rare and things you find mostly in hotels.

[@hull_k0gan641]

14:52 as the proud dad of a sweet, amazing daughter, Sherri’s clip here broke my heart.

[@skippingmeg6068]

'We're looking for parents to abandon their children for a week, the results probably won't be great' parents- ooh this sounds fantastic, sign my child up, I may get on television.

[@oscarwang7227]

There’s a pretty easy way to manipulate. Producer: your child will be on a tv show Parent: oh cool Producer: just sign

[@cookiesnmemes8202]

What baffles me is that the parents actually agreed to this. Like, what in the actual hell.

[@user-tx9eg4tc8o]

Money makes you do things....

[@Xehanort10]

Some people will do anything for money and fame. Even use their kids.

[@nokaton]

Answer: Money...

[@themudpit621]

Oh mate, back in my day the parents would have been falling over themselves for it. Character building! Times have changed thank goodness!

[@addex1236]

@@themudpit621 no things have not changed in the slightest

[@benjaminarnold51]

"Well, there's no murdering!" Oh great! I was worried for a moment! Sure these kids were harmed, both physically and mentally, but at least it wasn't Battle Royale!"

[@adiraiju9336]

Say what you will, but this still went far better than I expected it to. I fully expected several children to start murdering one another the moment the adults were out of sight, if the kids I grew up with were any barometer.

[@andrewdiaz3529]

@@adiraiju9336 It would have gotten to that point if it was a month not a week. Also if they weren't Brits

[@addex1236]

I'd ask why the parent's who HAD CCTV through all of this didn't get involved but these are parents who put there children on reality television so they probably didn't even look at the cameras

[@garrettsattem4799]

Watching children crack one-by-one under the weight of emotional trauma and lack of maternal affection. Truly no better way to spend an afternoon...

[@sleep-c3m]

I think this situation is utterly ironic because lord of the flies often get critiqued for its inaccurate and horrible portrayal of children and people want to believe that it’s not going to happen However, when they test out this horrible idea, they found the results to be near identical to Goldings implications. If the boys started fighting each other on like day 3, then murder is within possibility by like day 30. The even more ironic thing is that Golding was proven right a second time because of the fact that dumb adults are actually evil enough to even carry out this experiment. I bet Golding is laughing in his grave right now at the entire situation because he was right all along.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

Except that this is a simply atrocious comparison. These kids were placed where they could leave and basically just given the right to do whatever they want while having way too much energy to spend. Kids behave very differently in an actual survival situation because despite being children, they can tell that if they act up they won't have their parents picking up the slack. Also it's obvious they picked the worst kids for as much drama as possible. They intentionally looked for kids with antagonistic behaviors and probably weeded out all kids that seemed responsible and mature. If you want a real example of Lord of the Flies, in an actual real situation, look up the Tongan castaways. They did fine for 15 months.

[@asurmenhandofasuryan4610]

@@ivanlagrossemoule Granted, it does still mean that the Lord of Flies is still a possible situation.

[@candy-ninja]

@@ivanlagrossemoule To be fair the Tongan castways weren't as young as these kids. However, some of these kids def do look like they have some issues

[@joeytofil2259]

I think it can go either way based on the variables. As Ivan said, there has been a real life example of children pulling together and surviving. However, if there had been different kids in different circumstances, it could easily have gone much worse.

[@LoveProWrestling]

@@ivanlagrossemoule do you think these kids would have been better behaved or more able to care for themselves if this house was on an island?

[@darthcinema4262]

This is probably one of the most depressing, horrendous, and mean spirited shows ever. Some of those poor kids look like they just wanted to go home. This, and Kid Nation should be forgotten and the people in charge should be arrested

[@ve2vfd]

Oh wow... I remember seeing "Boys Alone" on tv when it aired... it was kinda weird as when the trailer ran at the beginning my prediction was: "Well, obviously the kids will completely destroy the house and hurt each other"... and of course I was not wrong.

[@annakelly1313]

We watched girls alone and boys alone in year 9 English lessons back in 2012 as part of our study of Lord of the Flies

[@HolyGoddessMotherAnne]

Never got to study that in my old secondary curriculum,I got the book and might read it some day.

[@janeljett9527]

That's cool

[@HolyGoddessMotherAnne]

@@janeljett9527 please leave me alone,you've proved your point long ago.

[@janeljett9527]

@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne I'm not even bothering you but ok

[@blueshell292]

Whenever I see shit like this where children are supposed to act like adults all on their own, I remember a quote from a wonderful little cartoon I’ve read once. "Baby animals learn the skill they need most earliest. Foals can run hours after birth, baby snakes can bite a short time after hatching. And children? Children cry. A human's greatest and most important skill is asking for help."

[@dionysustheaceson3457]

“They should’ve done something!” *And they did absolutely nothing*

[@littlekitsune1]

I played "Rule of Rose" I know the female version of Lord of the Flies doesn't work out either. These people are insane, this is absolutely child exploitation and cruelty.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

nice to see a rule of rose fan in here! but also yeah, agree. reality tv is already trash enough as it is.

[@Kino_Cartoon]

I was thinking the same!

[@nikkiaraneta3305]

I liked your comment, then decided to unlike it again because it was 69. Kidding aside. Yaaazzz, rule of rose.

[@littlekitsune1]

@@nikkiaraneta3305 No problem, friend. Preserving that 69 is important! XD

[@DragonRagovi]

How do shows like this even get past the concept stage in the first place? Does NO ONE on the production team take a step back and say 'Guys, I think we might be going a tad too far with this.'? And the scariest thing is that it's not even the first of its kind. Congratulations on your last video reaching over one million views. It was informative, well researched and enjoyable (by that I mean you ripping into the movie, not the movie itself).

[@CynicalReviews]

Honestly, you'd be amazed what gets through multiple stages of vetting with noone batting an eye.

[@sugarkitty2008]

Yeah I remember these. Among other shocking moments, I don't understand why they didn't intervene on the suicidal girl. What if she'd snuck in or made something sharp enough to slit her wrists? Or snuck some toxic cleaning products in with her to consume if they weren't in there already. She could have been bleeding out in there or dying of poison after the note. Did they think she was just overreacting or making it up for attention because she's a child? It doesn't matter how big or small the issue leading to those thoughts are. Suicidal thoughts can lead to death.

[@drinkerofpaint]

I'm just imagining a camera team watching these children scream at eachother and moving to get a good angle

[@wolve58]

How, exactly, did the producers of this show expect it to play out? Never mind. They knew exactly how it would play out. That was the point.

[@IBradFrazer]

I was pretty young when this show aired, I remember it being an interesting concept, but now that I am older I realize how exploitative it was.

[@CynicalReviews]

Same. The kids in Boys Alone are my age.

[@ooohheldenring9770]

I thought this was just going to be a Kid Nation video. How were there multiple shows like this across the U.S. and U.K.?

[@andrewdiaz3529]

Just be glad they didn't do a Kid Island. The way these played out, putting a bunch of kids on an island all but alone would turn out like Lord of the Flies. And one kid definitely would almost drown.

[@Guntherson220]

“It’s a bit like Lord of the Flies, but there is no murdering.” Congratulations, you cleared a bar set so low a toddler could walk over it.

[@gabrielle3960]

Seeing those children break down and cry breaks my heart. This is horrible. No one should do this to children. Also your Sia video was how I found you! It is really good.