He was the reason I became a Mets fan back when in 1985. Been with the Mets since through all the bad seasons. He is getting his jersey retired on April 14th wish I could be there.
@aaacomp15 ай бұрын
maybe you guys can meet up and do an 8 ball together.
@fasteddie90552 ай бұрын
Hey Mr. 8 ball, this site isn't for weirdo druggie comments. It demonstrates bad taste and lack of respect. We are discussing the great NY Mets 1980s era. Show some class and ''keep it real''.
@jayrodriguez92116 ай бұрын
At his apex he was as good as any pitcher that ever lived
@omarbahrour6 ай бұрын
No doubt, what he did at 19 is so fucking cool
@johnlant17303 ай бұрын
Doc was unbelievably dominant in his prime. I grew up a Mets fan in the 80s and watched almost every game he pitched. If you didnt watch him you wouldnt believe how good he was.
@jeffreybomba5 ай бұрын
His curve was humiliating! So many jelly legs and flat out crash landings.
@fluoriteheals5 ай бұрын
The curveball, the ORIGINAL ankle breaker! 🤣
@jeffreybomba5 ай бұрын
@@fluoriteheals You watch pitching contempt today, and a curve that gets a jelly leg is a top pitch of the day, while DG did that multiple times a game.
@fluoriteheals5 ай бұрын
@@jeffreybomba I bet some of those dudes see it in their nightmares! LMAO
@jeffreybomba5 ай бұрын
@@fluoriteheals Nightmares about being on the wrong end of the highlight reel!
@fluoriteheals5 ай бұрын
@@jeffreybomba YUP! THAT TOO LMAO!!
@carlpacquing25756 ай бұрын
Doc & Darryl are such fascinating stories. Glad to hear that they've turned things around in the past decade, and I hope that they can stay sober till the end.
@jeffn99526 ай бұрын
I think the Mets will be on the right side of history for honoring these two.
@sawyerbates20326 ай бұрын
Doc was so good. I didn't know Gary Sheffield was his nephew, they are only four years apart! Learn something new everyday, I suppose. Don't know if he's too old to cover, but Johnny Mize would be a good one to cover.
@mattmullins73696 ай бұрын
Finally got around to watching. Well worth the wait. Gooden represents the promise of what "could've been" as he himself acknowledged. Some sources credit him with that 2000 championship. Others don't. Black, white, it doesn't matter. Addiction is still addiction and he has tried to fight it everyday. The best line attributed to him goes like this, "19-21; greatest pitcher in the World. 21-23; above average. 23 on...just another guy" which is bad because he was certainly a great pitcher. Again, thank you for this. Go O's!
@Cam236 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! And you're right, just because he wasn't posting a 1.50 ERA or striking out more than 200 consistently doesn't mean he wasn't a generational talent. Go O's!
@jamesesterline6 ай бұрын
Gooden should be in the Hall IMO, his prime was so dominant and long enough and he put up enough counting stats to deserve induction.
@theywouldnthavetocensormei92316 ай бұрын
16 seasons, Sandy Koufax pitched for 12. A lot of people may call that a blasphemous comparison, but it's really not that absurd if you compare the numbers. I think Doc's off-field conduct is the main reason he's not in.
@k.s.nichols40606 ай бұрын
This is not a bad argument. I disagree, I think. Koufax retired because of pain and he was otherworldly dominant for longer, I believe. Gooden deserved (and has) a place in the Hall, but I don't know if he should be enshrined. (Though I am happy to have an auto card of his.)
@theywouldnthavetocensormei92316 ай бұрын
@@k.s.nichols4060Koufax had a better career overall, I just mean the longevity argument against Gooden doesn't really hold up since there are HOFers with shorter careers than him.
@theywouldnthavetocensormei92316 ай бұрын
His most impressive feat may have been his no-hitter with the Yankees, he was electric and untouchable in his early years with the Mets, but I've always been impressed by older pitchers that can use their brain to dominate even after their velocity has dropped.
@northstarjakobs6 ай бұрын
I've commented this before on a baseball video, not sure if it was on this channel, but my favorite band (The Mountain Goats) actually have a song about Doc Gooden called, well, "Doc Gooden". It focuses on his no-hitter with the Yankees, and just generally captures the feeling of watching an aging veteran who's nearing the end of the line but still has a few good tricks left up his sleeve.
@Cam236 ай бұрын
I don't recall hearing about this before that's really cool! I'll make sure to check that out
@danimalplanet79315 ай бұрын
You might be interested: I saw Mountain Goats summer '98 at some tiny club in downtown NYC with about 17 people in the crowd, and he played brand new song he'd written about Sosa & McGwire. This was when whole world was obsessively following the HR chase and I think MOST of us did not yet realize those guys were walking science experiments- so his song was rhapsodic & romantic, which in retrospect seems naive... But I've never seen or heard any mention of it, I feel like I'm the only person in the world who is aware it exists- or at least existed for that one night. I don't know if he ever performed it again. I only remember these lines, not quite verbatim but close: I've lost my youth and I've lost my looks All I've got is this goddam date With the goddam history books
@josephyodiceyodice59905 ай бұрын
If during the 1986 World Series anyone would have said that Gooden and Clemens weren't going to the Hall of Fame, I would have said that they were nuts❗ 😲
@spacelion47635 ай бұрын
People have no idea how good he was. Before age 25, Gooden was already 100-39 with 1067 strikeouts. He had already won Rookie of the Year, a Cy Young, was a four time All-Star and a World Series champion
@RetroBaseball6 ай бұрын
This is one of your best videos yet, keep up the great work!
@Cam236 ай бұрын
Thank you Retro! 🙌🏼
@flame-sky71486 ай бұрын
Great memories of the Doc, and another great choice as well as nicely done. My father took me to a Mets game at Shea in 1987, when they were champs the previous year. One thing about that 1987 year, Gooden was suspended for the first couple of months and the Mets finished in 2nd place with three games back. Had he been able to play in the beginning of the season, the Mets probably win the division and Doc most likely wins the CY Young award, as it went to closer that season. There is the "what if" with Doc Gooden. He probably had the best start you could possibly have as a pitcher considering his age.
@craigbrelsford6 ай бұрын
In 1985 I was sure Gooden was going to win 400 games in his career.
@omarbahrour6 ай бұрын
Well based on what he’d done to that point, who could blame you? Incredible.
@SmoothCriminal126 ай бұрын
Nobody: Cam23: TO THE NEXT LEVEL
@Cam236 ай бұрын
Climax of the vid 😎
@grace1975kauf6 ай бұрын
Gooden, so dominant. I remember his Topps '85 card. I was glad he was able to bounce back to pitch well in the mid 90s for Cleveland and NYY.
@mattmullins73696 ай бұрын
Showtime boys!!! Doc had all the tools.
@big8dog8876 ай бұрын
Interestingly, going into spring training 1985, Doc wasn't the Mets best pitcher. That would have been a fellow by the name of Sidd Finch.
@Cam236 ай бұрын
I believe SRS did a fantastic video on that legend!
@andrewvaldez86896 ай бұрын
Can you do Fernando Valenzuela?
@theywouldnthavetocensormei92316 ай бұрын
Breathe through your eyelids!🤣
@zoeledwards66176 ай бұрын
I agree ☝️
@BillyandtheCloneasaurus6 ай бұрын
Sad what the Dodgers did to him. His screwball was alien levels of disgusting. Had he not have been worked the way he was, I could see him having longer career similar to Carl Hubbell.
@chemBTW5 ай бұрын
just stopping by to say i cant wait for "The INSANE Prime of Will Clark" video :) ❤
@michaelgrant75305 ай бұрын
I'm crying right now
@grace1975kauf6 ай бұрын
Great video. Loved 80s/90s and early to mid 2000s baseball. Doc's talent would hold it's own against any pitcher.
@Cam236 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@BillyandtheCloneasaurus6 ай бұрын
Insane Prime of Billy Wagner would be cool. Future Hall of Famer.
@theywouldnthavetocensormei92316 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, probably not. His window is closing. I think he should be in, there isn't another closer with his kind of numbers that's eligible and not in.
@theywouldnthavetocensormei92316 ай бұрын
We had friends that had season tickets in the front row, right by the Astros bullpen, this is back in the Dome days when the bullpen was on the field along the RF line. My brother and I used to stick our hands through the railing when he was warming up, and you could feel the wind break when his fastball went by, and hear the fizzzzzzzzzle POP! I'll never forget that.
@TantrumFTW6 ай бұрын
TO THE NEXT LEVEL needs it's own lil graphic bit! Love your work, dude!! Keep it up!!
@Cam236 ай бұрын
Haha 😂 Thank you, I really appreciate that! 🙌🏼
@JeremyWaldrop-ls2pn2 ай бұрын
Doc n Darryl best one two punch in Mets history he could pitch ⚾️
@risboturbide93965 ай бұрын
First time on this channel; this is a very good video about one of my favorite pitchers, the great Doc Gooden. I'm now subscribed 🍻🍻
@Cam235 ай бұрын
Thank you, and welcome to the channel! 😎
@sbhbkdj5 ай бұрын
Awesome video as usual Cam! Great stuff! Still hoping you'll do a Timmy Lincecum video! Keep up the good work!
@Cam235 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great suggestion he's on the list for a video soon. Lincecum fits the mold of an insane prime as good as anyone I can think of
@Byrdman293 ай бұрын
1985 was the greatest season a pitcher ever had “
@PickledEggs45 ай бұрын
Any chance we could get a Daryl Boston video? He was my favorite player when i was a kid.
@omarbahrour6 ай бұрын
Hahahaha I don’t know why it’s so funny, but I love the little bit about his debut and showing up early. I feel like it’s such a nervous 19 year old thing to do haha
@chrisholden6156 ай бұрын
Your content is always great buddy! Keep it up 🎉🎉
@Cam236 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Chris!
@Xavier-e5c2 ай бұрын
That's Crazy!!! Amazing Stats 😮
@mickeywhite7878Ай бұрын
I sure miss the days of pitching complete games.
@mattmullins73696 ай бұрын
The best Gooden "comparison" was prime Pedro as I grew up on him. Even then, still not close.
@CountrySingerWannabe6 ай бұрын
Doc had 544 strikeouts in his first 2 seasons. Had he actually stayed away from drugs and alcohol and focused on his health, he might have torn is up in his prime. Dare I say that he could have played till he was 40 and rolled right along with Nolan Ryan in strikeout totals.
@Byrdman293 ай бұрын
He should be in the hall as the youngest pitcher to ever win cy 24-3 record as a kid “ a record that hasn’t been broken in over 3 decades
@plugchapman3 ай бұрын
very underrated hitter as well
@IRuiz8056 ай бұрын
Can you do a vid on Eric Gagne? He won a Cy Young as a Reliever in 2003 and no other relief pitcher has won the award since.
@janellemaynait6 ай бұрын
Juan Gonzalez hopefully
@fluoriteheals5 ай бұрын
HE FREAKING OWNED EVERYONE AT THE PLATE!
@damianpabon12402 ай бұрын
What could have been!!!!
@Chewbaccalypse5 ай бұрын
Everyone should watch the 30 for 30 called 'Once Upon a Time in Queens'. Every team in the 80's was taking amphetamine (Adderall) Dexedrine (dexamphetamine) and Ritalin (Methylphenidate). They kept a jar of em in the Mets clubhouse out in the open. I hope Doc is clean. Daryl got clean and runs a couple of treatment clinics now.
@monkeymagee20086 ай бұрын
Awesome vid 👍👍👍👍🔥🔥
@Cam236 ай бұрын
Thank you Sergio!
@leonzaduncan24384 ай бұрын
Baseball is weird about this, Doc was on the 96 roster, even though he didn't play in the playoffs, he still should get a ring.
@Rockhound61655 ай бұрын
Gooden and Strawberry should have had iconic careers and set records that might still be around today but drugs are a cruel, cruel mistress. Steve Howe is another one.
@chadholt11715 ай бұрын
A Mark Grace video would be cool
@samright46615 ай бұрын
We’re witnessing Spencer Strider break all Docs records! Doc loved him some Coke
@philb.15022 ай бұрын
Doc Gooden was great for his first two seasons, and then he really fell off. His 1985 season was one of the best seasons a starting pitcher has ever had in the major leagues. He only had two pitches. A fast ball and a curve. He peaked when he was 21 years old!
@jimlaregina5 ай бұрын
Doc Gooden took a no-decision in the Yankees-Indians 1997 playoff game because Mariano Rivera blew the lead. Gooden surrendered one earned run through 5-2/3 innings; the Yankees were up, 2-1. Had Rivera not allowed Cleveland to tie the score in the eighth inning, Doc might have had his only post-season win. The Indians went on to take the game and, ultimately, the series.
@carlozz86705 ай бұрын
Can you make about Robin Yount's prime,he's my best player of all time
@bryanklein64286 ай бұрын
These days we are lucky if a starting pitcher goes past the 6th inning
@GeordieGunner966 ай бұрын
I'm easy always a good video.i know you'll not be able to find coverage but I'd love to see some on older players or dynasties.
@Cam236 ай бұрын
Thank you! Old-timey baseball is a realm I'd like to tap into at some point, just have to figure out the best way to do it with virtually no footage
@GeordieGunner966 ай бұрын
@@Cam23 I totally understand man sports was more of a radio thing way back when,whatever you decide to do I'm sure it'll be top notch!
@chuckjammy92514 ай бұрын
Sutcliffe unanimously winning Cy Young over him in ‘84 is one of the most egregious instances of award voting in MLB history that there’s no way it couldn’t have been racially motivated
@HT-sm9dm5 ай бұрын
If Doc Gooden played today he would struggle to make a high school team because nowadays 13 year olds are throwing harder than he was because evolution
@fluoriteheals5 ай бұрын
He should definitely be in the MLB Hall of Fame. WTH?
@ibrahimkhalif835 ай бұрын
What’s the name of the instrumental at 16:06?
@Cam235 ай бұрын
The Næckbræker by Matt Large 🎵
@jahdeam2206 ай бұрын
Nomar !!!
@NickPR876 ай бұрын
His career saddens me a little, he had all the characteristics of someone who should have been among the best pitchers of all-time. Fortunately he's been on the bright side of his battle with drugs and serves as both a cautionary tale and an example of keeping the fight against your demons alive!
@Cam236 ай бұрын
I've always felt that we can learn the most from the "saddest" stories. Luckily, Doc's has turned out to be a much more positive one as of now!
@jimlaregina5 ай бұрын
Mickey Mantle hit the ball in the middle out of the park more than 500 times. Sure, hard partying improves nobody's health, but what cost Doc Gooden a longer shelf life was the fact that the Mets overworked him. He had his first injury at age 26. Yes, 26! Most players are only coming into their prime at that age! The innings overload to which the Mets subject Dwight Gooden turned him into an old man while he was still young.
@DrAnarchy696 ай бұрын
Yankees legend Doc Gooden
@person11926 ай бұрын
George Brett
@CountrySingerWannabe6 ай бұрын
Justin Verlander is rightly considered a power pitcher. Next to a Doc Gooden (parallel universe) Verlander might not be more than just "good".
@kingcassius25865 ай бұрын
4:38 His K per 9 was 11.49 If you leave off the last digit it should be rounded up to 11.5 K per 9.
@Cam235 ай бұрын
11.394 is how it's listed for 1984 mlb pitching leaders (perhaps you're checking a different site?): www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/1984-pitching-leaders.shtml
@kingcassius25865 ай бұрын
@@Cam23 I'm going to have to take the L on this one. Is it actually possible that it was miscalculated years ago? Unless that stat was changed alá Cobb's hit total(because I swear it was 11.49), I'll just have to stand corrected.
@Cam235 ай бұрын
@@kingcassius2586 that's a good question! Who knows, although I think they'd probably have to change more than handful of strikeouts after the fact in order for it to come down nearly .1 K/9
@kingcassius25865 ай бұрын
@@Cam23 I'm thinking maybe it was officially miscalculated at some point.
@flame-sky71486 ай бұрын
Rod Carew, Carlos Delgado, or Ralph Kiner.
@malachisnyder1676 ай бұрын
Chase utley or Steve Carlton
@reboot33325 ай бұрын
If it wasn't for drugs, he would've been one of the best ever. That rising fastball was so unhittable.
@bryanklein64286 ай бұрын
I love how doc missed the championship parade because he was busy getting high in a motel room on long Island
@ItBeHurka5 ай бұрын
I'm a Phillies fan. I can't stand the Mets, but I respect Doc.
@ArenaGuy16 ай бұрын
Gotta do Dave Winfield!
@rosschassy6 ай бұрын
I still want will Clark
@mattlitzenberg96236 ай бұрын
Pudge Rodriguez
@4392amtrak6 ай бұрын
Mike Mussina would be a good one
@bobbywhelan66686 ай бұрын
Tiger blood
@CrashPK776 ай бұрын
Ryne Sandberg!!!
@stonefree25735 ай бұрын
cocaine is a wicked pitch to have in your arsenal ....
@Youralwayswhining43675 ай бұрын
Doc and strawberry could have been special if they could have stayed off the dope
@ryanthompsonthompson8205 ай бұрын
Babe Ruth
@DND_Editz6276 ай бұрын
I liked my own comment
@ShineOnYouCD6 ай бұрын
I liked your mom’s comment
@kenyontucker64696 ай бұрын
Damn right.
@s.henrlllpoklookout50696 ай бұрын
I commented on my own like
@ibrahimkhalif835 ай бұрын
He was robbed of 1985 MVP
@MizTheDonGargon3 ай бұрын
They won BECAUSE of the coke...trust me
@joshua-nf3rx3 ай бұрын
The best prime ever was Pedro Martinez
@alejandroabreu16586 ай бұрын
A-Rod
@themase32196 ай бұрын
Day 22 of asking for Ted Williams
@bobbywhelan66686 ай бұрын
Thats a tough one bc noone likes the Red Sox
@themase32195 ай бұрын
@@bobbywhelan6668 yeah but Ted Williams was the best
@fluoriteheals5 ай бұрын
UGH COKE! What a waste!
@aaacomp15 ай бұрын
LOL at twirl. Pitchers don't twirl!
@Cam235 ай бұрын
I did not coin the term twirl for the record 😂it is absolutely something I've heard on many occasions via broadcast haha
@aaacomp15 ай бұрын
@@Cam23 they hurl, but surely don't twirl
@matthewstarjumper52865 ай бұрын
@@aaacomp1 y dont u both agree to disagree and move on it aint that deep
@ctcards26363 ай бұрын
Too bad the Mets over used him.
@rosschassy6 ай бұрын
Ok that’s better though he did take drugs
@theywouldnthavetocensormei92316 ай бұрын
You would probably be surprised how many athletes do, Doc and Darryl were just extreme examples because their addiction was so severe they couldn't really hide it in public life.
@alejandroabreu16586 ай бұрын
Alex Rodriguez
@willshad5 ай бұрын
Not to downplay it, but Gooden's ' prime' was one season, or maybe two at most. The rest was a huge disappointment.
@MizTheDonGargon3 ай бұрын
His prime was pretty much 1986-1990
@barbaracaroll5 ай бұрын
He was never Seaver
@wutangisforever27985 ай бұрын
🦄
@JoeValenzuela-vc9iv5 ай бұрын
yeah, the prime of his drug habit.
@jritechnology2 ай бұрын
I still love my 1984 Fleer Update set with Doc Gooden, and my regular 1984 Fleer with Strawberry. Those were 2 of my favorite sets as a child and I was able to recently acquire both of them.
@ronniek2015 ай бұрын
God bless Dwight Gooden. Brings many happy memories for me w my father as a kid. He was so dominant at a young age. Never seen a better pitcher in his prime til this day.
@mickeywhite7878Ай бұрын
Saw him pitch in the Astrodome in 1986. He was as good as advertised. They call a curveball an Uncle Charlie, but they called Gooden’s curveball Lord Charles
@dexteratoe87056 ай бұрын
Coca Cola
@stevejanowiak19825 ай бұрын
I remember an article back in ‘85 about how Doc threw 95 mph fastballs. Call me crazy but his pitches look WAY faster than dudes 97-99 mph pitches today.
@horchataguy916 ай бұрын
Crazy how those 80s Mets weren’t a dynasty with all that crazy ish they did and still smoked foos on the baseball field..read stories and watching the history makes this all too amazing to appreciate baseball more