The Intriguing Italian Battleships | World of Warships: Legends

[@kpz1234]

Agree with your analysis of the shells. I am enjoying the new BB line. Admittedly, I am leaning into a full secondary build at T3/T4. (ETA: 6.8km for Caracciolo secondaries with 16/3 von Hipper inspiring 16/2 di Revel).

[@Xarkun]

So am I. I'm really frustrated that I didn't get the Caracciolo because I really want to see if I'm right and the smoke will be beneficial in tandem with the secondaries, but I just won't buy those crates....

[@kpz1234]

@@Xarkun errr... don't blame you for deleting this post but I do have a game in the Caracciolo up on my channel with the smoke in use...

[@Xarkun]

Apparently my crate RNG is bad. Feels like everyone has it!

[@kpz1234]

@@Xarkun We won't discuss what I paid to get them all :)

[@AlekTrev006]

@@Xarkun I bought one single 10 pack for 7500 Gold, and got my Cara that way. Very lucky, I admit … but seeing those crazy 1254 Damage Penetrations pop up when the 41mm-Pen 152’s score a hit is truly breathtaking 😀.

[@LUX1243]

For now i'm enjoying the T5 italian battleship. I'm almost always getting high demage games when i play it and the secondaries are very nice when they catch a cruiser or a destroyer that gets too close. I just wish that the dispersion on the main guns wasn't this bad because we don't have SAP main guns here on console. I also don't understand the high reload. I hope that the Littorio azur lane commander will help with accuracy because they most certantly need it. It's also sad that we don't have a free to play options for now, but maybe next update we will get one

[@Xarkun]

The long MB reload the poor MB accuracy are holdover balancing stats from PC, I think. Just as the stupidly long reload on the Italian cruiser guns are holdover stats from PC. I do not know why they retained those characteristics on either line considering neither has MB SAP. It's a strange balancing decision.

[@davide498]

I still haven't unlocked it from the crates... but, on paper, it looks exactly like the Giulio Cesare... but the Cesare it's at tier 4.

[@The680002]

I only have the T3 Alighieri and am really happy with secondaries. I’ve had 2 death strikes on destroyers with one having full health. At first I wasn’t sure how it happened, then it happened again and now I’m just sailing into caps following destroyers and hunting red team destroyers.

[@VazzVegas]

Great video. I'm all in on SAP secondaries. I feel like the range is fair. If it were longer, it would just get nerfed eventually.

[@beautiful_muse]

Here to see your thoughts on the Italian BB's. ☺️ Good to see you Xarkun!!! ❤️

[@lillpete64]

100% agree also looking forward to getting the AL dispersion commander and useing a secondary build

[@stephenmarshall3771]

I’m hoping that this is a precursor to them adding in manual secondaries in our version

[@manasuars.3341]

My Colorado loves these ships. Never seen a salvo hit both sides of the map.

[@njamilla]

Haven't gotten the Adrea Doria yet but I do have the tier III and IV ships. Unlike the GC, I don't feel confident with them as a brawler, so I haven't seen how well the SAP works. I'm aggressive the the Julius Caeser; maybe I need to get more aggressive with the new bbs. I don't spec for secondaries with Revele, relying more on armor to protect me when I go 1v1 with other bbs.

[@konahriksil]

What would be the best commanders to use on each italian bbs

[@crimzonblitz281]

The sap secondaries on the t6 Italian battleship does 3000 a hit to the front of a Nelson.

[@AlekTrev006]

Not 3000 a hit, but 1254 on a Full Pen from the big 152mm triple-barrel cannons , can indeed pop up as 3000+, since they have appx 40mm Penetration power and will cut right through Nelson’s 25mm Bow armor 😉. It’s indeed impressive…

[@crimzonblitz281]

@@AlekTrev006 When I was brawling the guy I was moving around him from his front to his side, definitely chuncked tons of health to his low armor bow and did almost nothing when on his side. Very impressive on thin armor parts of ships.

[@thomashawtin8706]

There is 3 min video on my KZbin. Shows a full health t61 being taken out by the F. Front 150 fires, then rear 150 fires, no more t61

[@blackjack-fd1fo]

I had a full health bovoi ruching me and he was gone within 10 secs further I love the tier v up until now defenetly going for the tier VII

[@randychang9733]

if you've already invested heavily in secondary builds, it feels obligatory to try this, but what's the batting average of attempting to mine utility by carving out a niche out of a niche? i'd guess low

[@AlekTrev006]

It’s actually really strong to go full secondaries on the T-5 and T-6 (and my analysis of the upcoming T-7 Vittorio Veneto suggest it should be even more amazing if they keep the current stats in place - 4 second Base reload on SAP 152’s IS kinda broken though, as those same SAP guns have a much more reasonable 7.2 second base reload, on the PC’s Legendary Italian Cruiser, Napoli).

[@Xarkun]

It's very strong situationally. But the situation is you have to close the distance. Can that be done reliably every battle? No. But when it can be done, it works out surprisingly well.

[@AlekTrev006]

@@Xarkun Indeed, indeed ! I actually just used the T-3 Dante with my full 5.5 km secondary setup to get Rank-1 in Duel-Arena, which I’ve never done before 😉, and you know I love my Brawling Advocacy work on the Reddit forum.. I’m just pondering whether the Devs gave the SAP secondaries their current really high Base Reload speeds just to enable more hits / damage per battle by Players, given they are doing this Test Month for them, before possibly adding it in for the Italian Cruiser & BB Main Guns ? (3 sec on the 90mm ones is fine, and almost exactly what they have on PC-Napoli, but a mere 4 seconds on the 120, 135, and big 152’s is what puzzles me - though I love it !)

[@DEATHRAGE157]

Me and sone of tge guys on the Warfare At Sea are planning to do some good division play because i pulled the tier 6, and yeah a sonar dd with smoke and the caraciolo with rolling smoke can win caps really easily, if the guy on the caraciolo dont pull the trigger and let the friendly dd and his secondaries kill the enemy dd and then just retreat and let the friendly dd take the cap.

[@Xarkun]

Some other people have told me the smoke can be used in this way, and I really want to get my hands on that ship

[@AlekTrev006]

That’s a hilarious and epic idea, Barbosa ! I did something along those lines with my own Caracciolo, where I pushed into a cap - angled a bit, and popped smoke - then secondary booster (Cara can reach a functional 7.1 km range with a 100% Full Build ), and because my comrades were spotting for me, the SAP guns tore apart a Colorado, and New Orleans that had tried to push in - while I took zero damage for the 40 seconds or so the smoke was going 😅. With the high-pen of the SAP guns, Tier-6’s melt pretty fast (though of course SAP can still ricochet at very steep angles, like AP, or Shatter if the armor plate is too thick. But against most Bows & Sterns, you just tear em’ up !).

[@DEATHRAGE157]

@@AlekTrev006 i would prefer using my smoke to make a play on early game capping alongside a lighting, z23, Loyang or orkan, to quickly get caps and or kill the enemy dd

[@donbrooker3837]

I got the tier III and tier IV and have Haruna and Von Hipper up to level 16. The secondary range is tough to deal with, but when it comes to close quarters, they just pummel everything. Destroyers...gone, cruisers...wrecked, battleships, run away once they start losing 2,000-3,000 points each hit. Nice. The main gun accuracy is not good, at all.

[@f.t2482]

I also got the tier 3 and 4 and like them, the sap is very good to deal with dd and cruiser. And even at range they hit and dont look like a shotgun with shells all over, and the small gun size 305 mm hit ok hard on bb also tier 5 bb. Its nice with a new line of bb and they are fun to play. So I looking forward to the rest of the line. Special tier 6 and 7 with the rouling smoke, wander if it works right on a bb

[@Xarkun]

The main gun accuracy is trash. It really shouldn't be as bad as it is. But it's trash on PC because the main guns fire SAP. They don't here, so these ships could do with an accuracy buff.

[@Koksta1972]

Ass in, and this boat is quite tanky, got a lot of ricochets there. When I came in the middle of a California, a low Poltava and another ship, yes I went down, but after the Poltava went down and the Cali lost half her health

[@Xarkun]

Yep. Good Italian armor.

[@lunchbox71282]

I got the tier 6 and I use the smoke just as you described and I drive into dogfights in my smoke and let the SAP eat. 😁

[@Xarkun]

I really really wish I could try that out

[@Zapranoth-lf8nt]

I only have the tier 3 so far...and yeah, I'm not buying these crates, either, so we'll see what the rest of the campaign crates have in store... The Dante seems pretty accurate at 6 to 8 km...farther than that, and it's a crapshoot...I would agree that brawling is what they're meant for...likely why we got di Revel and not an accuracy Captain...? I've gotten in secondary range twice, and yes, 947 damage seems a common number...I think Dante has a few 120mm secondary guns? Good luck getting the 6...😎

[@AlekTrev006]

Yup, Dante’s entire secondary battery is 120mm guns. 6 of them (per side) are in the WW-1 style Casemate fixed mounts, and the other 4 are intriguingly mounted in two Double-barrel turrets with good firing angles, on the front and back side of the ship. This allows you to ‘most of the time’ be firing the 3 front casemates, plus both double turrets, at an enemy (7 SAP shells every 3 seconds or less) - and if you angle even more sharply you can bring in those other 3 casemate guns. Because of the little mini turrets though, I actually like Dante’s secondary setup more than Tier-4 Cavours. Cavour and Roma might be the two Italians I run an accuracy / snipey setup on, with the new AL-Liitorio upcoming commander. All the others should be awesome for Brawling setups though 😎

[@battle_promaster3631]

I find the AP’s seem weak but the HE’s are a fire starter almost every salvo.

[@Xarkun]

The guns are just small and inaccurate. The AP is fine when it hits broadsides. But the HE is very good.

[@user-nickxlmanou]

I have to say that even though i opened 11 Italian creates i got nothing

[@Xarkun]

Glad I’m not the only one with crap crate RNG, but that sucks. I would’ve been happy with just the T6 and nothing else though.

[@Hulivilivoo]

Pc 90mm sap has 26mm pen, i guess its the same here

[@Xarkun]

That sounds about right based on what it did to the Fuso and what I've seen it to other ships.

[@Hulivilivoo]

@@Xarkun 38mm with 135 sap and 42mm with 152 sap

[@ladymaria5446]

Do you think these kinda kill the point of German secondaries they desperately need the 32mm pen and without them their essentially useless

[@walterrivolta8695]

the secondary ones are right... also their anti-aircraft artillery are also good

[@CRAIGKMSBISMARCKTIRPITZ533]

I'll Be So Pissed Off If I Get Those BATTLESHIPS Out Of A Crate 🤬. I Want To Wait Till Their All UNLOCKED So I Work Up To The TIER 7 😃

[@TomTheSurgen1]

Here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaK2dodundKFmac

[@HughMorris69]

It's too squishy for a brawler, too shotgunny for a accurate BB. Besides the new secondaries it's mediocre over all.

[@grandadmiralthrawn6388]

Butchered the name again smdh Xarkun