The Iron Giant, Train Scene

[@Avragesoulsgamelover]

I love how a train can almost take down the iron giant while a giant tank and heavy weapons can't even deal a single damage to it

[@Idroppedaburrito]

The fact that mr incredible, who is much smaller, can stop a highway metro train in 15 sec is whopping

[@jay8980]

this got me thinking, so i did the math. standard north american trains travel 40-50 mph to be as efficient as possible before risking tipping/buckling on turns, and the long line of coal cars tells us this is the standard 70-car coal freighter which weighs 3-8 thousand tons, so well go right in the middle with 5k. now, normally a freight train at this weight and speed would need well more than a mile before the inertia died down, however we can see that the train stopped within a staggeringly short 50 or so feet. this means that the force behind the train went almost entirely into the giants head, instead of slowly losing inertia on the rails. this leaves us with well over 150,000 tons of force applied to both the conductor in the train and of course the giant. its no surprise that the innocent ex-killing machine is fine, but its quite alarming that the aforementioned conductor is completely fine, even though that much energy would turn any living thing into goo almost instantly. it seems the conductor has inhuman, perhaps god-like durability. now we must ask ourselves what else this unnamed entity in human form is capable of, as well as one simple question. can the conductor beat goku?

[@NoriMori1992]

He wasn't in fight mode, and trains are enormous.

[@bondseanbond5190]

@@NoriMori1992 woah,woah! Stop! Hit the Brakes!! Too late! Should’ve done that 30 seconds earlier.

[@SEEKER-1609]

Actually I’m pretty sure that the iron giant can tighten his limbs witch can be a part of his transformation and… and your not listining

[@dirtydodge96]

As someone who works on model railroads, the giant trying to line up the tracks perfectly at 1:30 is funny to me.

[@calebshockency2083]

Is nobody gonna mention how both train engineers walked out of that wreck with only concussions? Forget sending the army, send Frank and Ollie from Maine Central Railroad!

[@madgavin7568]

IRL they'd have been killed instantly from the impact.

[@ryanward652]

That’s because the engineers are voiced by the Disney animators Ollie Johnson and Frank Thomas

[@ChadTrainEnjoyer]

Maine Central RR severely damaged the Iron Giant, best RR vs. Monsters?

[@MrGlostuber]

Someone needs to mod him into GTA5, maybe he's the only thing to stop the train.

[@LeftytheGansterGremlin]

KJris DeWitt I'm guessing the train is an unstoppable force? And there are no immovable objects?

[@Mdmd-h9y7u]

ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ!!!

[@Idroppedaburrito]

How about mr. Incredible?

[@MR-SINISTER76]

@@kjristian9618 yea cause i think nothing can stop a train in gta games but imagine if he was added in and he could

[@philhartman1948]

spider-man (tobey version): *AM I A JOKE TO YOU?*

[@VivaLaDnDLogs]

The shot of the Giant turning to face the train always gets me. So many beautiful shots in this movie!

[@TheSouthern1cross]

lol when that OCD kicks in you just gotta make sure its straight!

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

All the freakin' time. Lol! Who would have thought the Iron Giant is like this, too?

[@ZakWolf]

Heh, it looks like the Giant also wanted to make sure the train didn't derail, only he stayed on the track too late and caused it to crash anyway. Luckily the worst that came out of it was the engineer Frank Thomas getting a big old bump on the head.

[@joehumpston7937]

wileyk209zback yep! Things like that have to be OCD immaculate in design in order to function right!

[@kurlykayla9013]

Honestly, I can empathize with Giant here. I too am a perfectionist.

[@annal7670]

when I was a kid I always thought that the antenna was also a representation of a "headache," like he was sore after getting hit by a train and coming apart lol

[@ZakWolf]

Heh, interesting thought. Of course, train engineer/fireman Frank Thomas got a nasty bump on the head in the train wreck, and amazingly, that was the only injury in the accident!

[@thesourlemongoober]

Imagine a kid killing hundreds with a giant robot and all he says is, "i was just testing the new cybertruck"

[@GeneralCane]

This scene stressed the absolute f*** out of me as a kid.

[@talb.1805]

yea same

[@htcm038]

❤️🌌🗺🌎🌍🌏 Mm I’m sorry ta hear th@ how old were u @ the time

[@kaylasilverstein4137]

For me it was the scene from Pooh’s Grand Adventure where Tigger is stuck on the log in the ravine and he can’t jump back up. It was so stressful even tho I KNEW nothing bad would happen lol

[@rafttaleryder]

When your OCD kicks in lol

[@chasevanderdussen8690]

haloallstars94 I jumped when the giant suddenly appeared in front of Hogarth. How bout you?

[@xBluefirex1]

Even robots get OCD lol

[@htcm038]

❤️🌌🗺️🌎🌍🌏 LOL yeah Ahh

[@CSX2665]

When you stare at your model train coming down the track a bit too long...

[@Steeldune]

CSX2665 when you relize theres no real conductor to stop it for you

[@gino7197]

as a kid I was scared to go out at night because there was a house on a hill a mile away from my backyard. It looked like the iron giants eyes staring at me.

[@sirlunacy8066]

I know this is a kid's movie, but man that train conductor Wayyy underreacted in my opinion lol XD

[@viyhexe131]

He's just another example of the saintly characters in this movie. He didn't care that his train was derailed and that his job was at risk. He was more worried that someone might be hurt.

[@Voucher765]

It's somewhat off that a steam locomotive in New England would pulling freight or passenger service in 1957 because by that time most of the railroads up there phased them out, I know a retired trainmaster named Victor who grew up during this era and remembered see steam on the Boston & Maine RR up in New Hampshire and they ranged in size from small 2-6-0s to big 4-8-2 mountains.

[@skiiipawbs]

Well, yeah but this is a movie. They probably just wanted a cool looking engine for their movie.

[@ogragan3492]

Its not outside the realm of possibility, There were a few steamers that survived almost into the early 60s especially out east. i heard the N&W ran steam in revenue service until 1960/61

[@madgavin7568]

@anferny el niño que le gusta dinosaurio y tren Those were used exclusively for passenger transportation right? If anything I'd assume it would have been a 4-8-2 Mountain.

[@braysfinds7479]

The J3-A hudsons were retired in 1957 around the same time as this movie. I always headcannoned that the Maine Central bought some of them after the NYC retired them from passenger use. That's the closest I have to an in-universe explanation...

[@Voucher765]

@braysfinds7479 One J-3a 5413 was shown in Herron Rail's NYC volume 2 and railfan Doc Blackburn took a cab ride in it, If I'm going to save a Hudson it would be 5413

[@TommyPicklesFan]

Train: Get out of My Way! Giant: Oh No!

[@markmonroe3067]

Move bitch get out the way

[@coringraham1294]

The Giant is VERY special. His Antenna Flashing can repair himself.

[@swisscheese-394]

The locomotive that crashed is a "New York Central J3A Hudson" locomotive, except 2 inaccuracies, you cant exactly get a close up so i don't know if the second point is correct: 1. The J3a was an express locomotive, but here you can see it pulling hoppers 2. The J3a was a steam locomotive, so obviously it has to have a tender, but it doesn't seem to.

[@madgavin7568]

I'd have thought the train was a 4-8-2 Mountain of some kind.

[@Teencat]

I understood absolutely none of this but trust you 100%

[@swisscheese-394]

@@Teencat lol

[@ezugen]

I thought it was the class J, like 611

[@swisscheese-394]

@@ezugen Yea I looked at a few photos and stuff and it seems to be a J3A, with 611's livery. Weird.

[@JVMstudio97]

1:08 *Nailed it 😎*

[@OtepRalloma]

I love how this scene sets up as foreshadowing for the ending. No deus ex machina; just a Chekhov's Gun-I mean Giant.

[@itshanginglikehighnoon]

Me and my brother making really good points in an argument Our dad choosing to ignore them: 0:17

[@seanpirwin]

A train blows him to pieces but a full salvo from two battleships doesnt leave a scratch! How?

[@shadowmc2609]

In fairness, he *did* have additional plating when he was in his combat mode. Plus his head was deliberately encased in the armour too, so it is suggested that his head is known to be more vulnerable.

[@RedR4g0s0l0cc0]

Train:GET OUT OF TRACK! :Giant:Uh? SLAM! :Train:I Think I Am Hurt

[@Sonicthehedgehogfan-ee4ig]

+RedR4g0s0l0cc0 lol :3

[@romaroma7056]

hlo

[@romaroma7056]

hlo

[@RedR4g0s0l0cc0]

okay i following the train!

[@RedR4g0s0l0cc0]

ALL RIGHT!

[@The_Lunch_Man]

This scene was so tense

[@blen_dysstudio3487]

0:50 Hogarth:*hears Thomas the train them song coming* :o

[@Timerman765]

Realistically the boiler of the locomotive would have exploded like a bomb

[@PannierLaw]

To be fair putting the track together wouldn’t have stopped the train from crashing as the rails would buckle under the trains weight since they aren’t connected to the railed ties anymore the train would have derailed no matter what

[@curious5887]

Well the coal train behind the locomotive did derail in the scene

[@dannyjohnson599]

0:17 favorite part

[@Haueru86]

The iron giant puts the tracks together like it's a hornby railway

[@Jesse12489]

*trains hits something and train stops* Contactor:Are you alright?

[@jdgator95]

1:25 When the subway is coming but your friend needs to put money on their card

[@bigmeknurgle]

people wouldn't need to transfer money so fucking frequently if they actually had some willpower and were responsible with it

[@Thatguy-kg3tz]

Ah the J3As what a great class of engines.

[@tayzadayzah6681]

0:16 Ah-ah-ah Oh! XD

[@pershing5286]

You can't rush Perfection.

[@TheDeMIlz]

i fucking love this movie its so good

[@jakemiketta3868]

0:41. 😂. Now that’s funny 😄

[@jerichamesclammay3107]

1:40 it was at that moment that the iron giant knew he fucked up.

[@TauGeneration]

because if his OCD , i get PTSD in this scene

[@engineer_comeback]

0:48 *Stressful scene approaching*

[@nathancruz9172]

0:41 😒? 0:43 wait a minute. What do you 🤔 you’re doing? 0:45 👀 at this mess!

[@StupidLy-ih1rb]

Train sirens ring meaning the train is coming 😧

[@southernpennsyrailfan8579]

I love how they used the New York Central Dreyfus J3A Class Locomotive for this scene

[@averylegitperson6305]

Omg. 0:19. If I saw that on the mountain I would freak out so muchg

[@NERRP2017]

Lol my fav scene with that whistle it’s the polar express whistles

[@loyscgodlike]

All you had to do is follow the damn train CJ

[@burlingtonfan7492]

Ok,so this is the proof. The train in this scene is in fact a NYC Dreyfuss Hudson. On a movie clip of this movie I was watching (You can find it on KZbin) It showed on a Newspaper the locomotive which closely resembles a NYC Dreyfuss Hudson. Otherwise (I haven’t watched the whole movie though) this scene was great and the closeup of the locomotive looked realistic.

[@Slade51463]

Train looks like an NYC Hudson but sounds like a N&W J-Class.

[@ryanward652]

Plus this locomotive only pulls passenger trains and should not be pulling a freight train

[@benhughes3394]

1:21 That’s the sound effect from The Lost World Jurassic Park.

[@philhartman1948]

In which scene in The Lost World?

[@benhughes3394]

@@philhartman1948 Before Dinos wreck the camp.

[@philhartman1948]

​@@benhughes3394thanks for telling me

[@philhartman1948]

Do you know about more sounds that were heard in this film and other films? Because the info would be very helpful (i am a sfx wiki user)

[@Everettescottortiz]

Now the giant has caused confusion and delay.

[@Name-fo7lj]

very metaphorical. no matter how perfect or straight the path is, you can still find ways to make it better and end up making it worse.

[@LegendRails]

It's the New York Central J3a Hudson.

[@ryanward652]

It’s also a passenger type and it shouldn’t be pulling a freight train

[@jakemiketta3868]

0:45. Is it really a mess? (Iron Giant taking off the rails)?

[@briannahurley2449]

I seen the iron giant before. And I've seen him many times with hogarth. I've never seen the iron giant fit train tracks together just as a freight train was coming.

[@WarbonnetProductions]

When you try to be perfect lol.

[@sharkyfish3492]

I was watching the old original Iron Giant the other day. There is a scene where the giant tries to eat the Railroad tracks, and is hit by the train. I was AMAZED to see the locomotive that hit him was a Class J. I had to go back and watch it again, just to be sure. It was pretty wild, that this iconic loco is used in a cartoon

[@thenorgalofthehills5688]

Sharky Fish I thought it was a class J too for a while, But it’s actually an NYC J3A Hudson.

[@liamsvideos6053]

Geri Halliwell - It’s Raining Men

[@benhughes3394]

1:40 But it was too late.

[@nickp2271]

Now that’s what I call a train wreck.

[@Lambda_Ovine]

I bet this scene is satisfactory for people with OCD.

[@freddybonilla2472]

Oh I remember this scene

[@jakemiketta3868]

Me too

[@ryanward652]

@@jakemiketta3868Ditto!

[@zackschulz6448]

Stop! Stop the train! Stop the train!

[@cruisetheautisticboy994]

You know, the Iron Giant is just like Frankenstein's monster! He's misunderstood!

[@bfgnerfer]

It might be old but I’m gen z and I watched this when I was 5 this is still amazing movie and I need the ending right

[@TheGrayRatArmy]

1:39 Thats N&W 611 steam locomotive

[@Slade51463]

aaron james 2005 or an NYC J-3a Hudson?

[@ericjimenez8777]

1:36

[@SpinosaurusStudios_]

Is it weird I dont remember this scene?

[@DjayPaniora]

The train in the movie is a nyc stream lined 4-6-4 Hudson which is long gone locomotive which pulled trains like the empire state limited and the 20th century limited these locomotives run from 1927-1957 sadly all of them were scrapped

[@armorpro573]

Shame we didn't preserve any

[@jamesbelcher8509]

NYC Dreyfus Locomotive 1:10 [train whistle] 1:40 NYC Dreyfus Locomotive

[@BrandonKohout]

Look, you can’t go stomping around and you can’t come with me. My mom will wig out.

[@cunningflop]

how does the train do so much damage but tank rounds do nothing

[@funkeystudiostv]

The train is more percussive force.

[@angelabm8971]

i used to think that the giant has more durability when he is in rampage mode

[@chasevanderdussen8690]

I think I can offer a better explanation for this. Time to apply physics to this. The first law: in an initial frame of reference, an object lies dormant (ei the Giant still in front of the train), or remains in motion and continuing at its original velocity, in this case, the train is still moving. The second law: In the initial frame of reference, the concussive force of the train is equal to the mass of the Giant and the train as well, since its carrying more weight despite moving at a fast speed, multiplied by acceleration of the train. The final law: When one body (the train) exerts a force on another (again, the Giant), the second body, the train, simultaneously exerts a force on the giant equal in maginitude and opposite in direction, in this case the train was moving forwards while the Giant stayed stationary, on the first body.

[@TheIrrelevantYT]

In short, the tank shell can only apply so much power due to its size. A train is hundreds of tons of force, and even if its slower than the tank shell-you know what? Force = mass × acceleration. Done deal.

[@amtrakisveryepic]

Conductorand Engineer: NO THAT'S ALOT OF DAMAGE!

[@G-Money-hw9nr]

1:40 I think it’s the NYC #5450 Hudson

[@luisalvarado754]

With the way the whistle sounds and it’s smokebox, it’s more like the 611.

[@SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702]

It's actually a New York Central J3A Hudson Dreyfuss with the whistle of N&W #611 and CP #1293

[@ryanward652]

@@SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702Exactly! Plus it’s only for pulling passengers trains and not pulling freight trains

[@elaynadiedinside]

This stress is real man

[@justinscott9277]

IT’S THE HUDSON TRAIN

[@kyaing9047]

holy shit that unit coal train surely did a number on his jaw

[@seanfairlyoddparentsthisto1015]

CP Canadian Pacific/Ohio Central 1293 & Norfolk And Western N&W 611 Whistle in The Iron Giant (1999) 0:51 1:09 1:26

[@Austinator0630]

Though the double failure of Quest for Camelot and The King & I helped doomed The Iron Giant at the box office, Warner Brothers lack of understanding of the film caused them to show indifference once things started to go wrong.

[@jakemiketta3868]

1:42. Crash 💥

[@nssteampunk4865]

Better if it was a diesel locomotive because around 1957, steam was fading fast and internal combustion engines began taking over.

[@schmenkspeedtyping218]

That's a New York Central J-3 Hudson Streamlined, It wouldn't be used as a freight train, right?

[@nssteampunk4865]

I believe it was used for some freight service in the final years of steam

[@ryanward652]

Well the locomotive that hits the giant is a New York Central RR J3 ‘Hudson’ engine. Plus they’re passenger type and almost never used on freight trains

[@simontrainbrainz6038]

How I try to fix my track when I play with my model railroad. I accidentally burned up one of my engines because of it, but she’s up and running.

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

0:19: *Goofy Ahh.*

[@Samuelsmoviecorner]

Dominic torreto from fast and furious is voice by the iron giant

[@emilybriand9453]

Now hold on a damn second the first sence behind the boi the train tracks were not there then the second scene he is I had them How does that work?...

[@brutecompaq2999]

That has to be a NYC j3a Hudson it has the find on its nose

[@schmenkspeedtyping218]

Thank you, you are the first person I found that actually knows

[@--marshy--]

My personal favorite steam loco

[@ambermedellin9891]

No wonder the train was left out of the war battle.

[@ZakWolf]

In real life, there were no train wrecks in the USA back in 1957, and I also recall none of the international ones that year were caused by hitting a giant robot! :P

[@nssteampunk4865]

Im sure there were derailments and accidents back in 57. Not with giant robots, but Google Search a roster of train accidents. Avoid Wikipedia, not a useful source

[@ZakWolf]

@@nssteampunk4865, yeah, but they weren't un the USA.

[@gcHK47]

It is pretty funny how the Giant tries to make it perfect.

[@silverplanet2078]

OCD

[@SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702]

0:51 Canadian Pacific #1293 whistle

[@andrewsmith6563]

Hey. Can I please use some of your footage in my films? I will credit you for it.

[@santiguillen1460]

0:52 Canadian pacific class #1293 4-6-4 steam engine & The polar express #1225 baldwin 2-8-4 S3 class berkshire type steam engine

[@Elitesolider1023]

Did you catch the locomotive?Sorry I missed it.

[@themeparkreconnoiter9787]

Norfolk & Western J with the New York Central J-3a Hudson's Prow Reminicant on the Front

[@nantania6521]

True

[@oriontheraptor8119]

How did the train even do that much damage to a robot of that size and we already know he’s a war machine so why would his creators make him so easy to bust apart

[@Qwerty2_6649]

Wait.....Is That a N&W Locomotive?

[@--marshy--]

no NYC hudson

[@utahrailroadsofamerica1991]

R.I.P Norfolk & Western J Class 4-8-4 😞

[@firstnamelastname3841]

Golden Spike Berkshire #759 it was actually a Dreyfus Hudson

[@utahrailroadsofamerica1991]

How Do You Know That?

[@traingame2.053]

Cus it is

[@schmenkspeedtyping218]

It's a NYC J-3 Hudson Streamlined 4-6-4

[@themeparkreconnoiter9787]

Damn That Brad Bird! And his Damn Dessegions!😖 You know what I going to say that was the N&W J with the NYC J-3a Dreyfuss Hudson's Prow Reminicant on the front. I dont care what everyone says. and I didnt mean to talk like its Just annyoing and fustrating of him to make that Disegionand I really dont like that I love the Js and I even have a MTH scale model of it and everytime in this scene I will blure myself

[@TheFxyO]

GIANT THIS ISNT A TIME FOR YOUR OCD GOD DAMNIT

[@jonapocalypseau1383]

TheFxyO Well sorry

[@kyawthu755]

1:26 the train is getting so close that the screen itself shakes

[@Thomasthetankengineandfriends]

1:28 me: STOP SOMEONE’S ON THE TRACKS STOP THE TRAIN STOP! The engineer: (gasps) applies the brakes

[@eltsu2940]

??

[@artismbyjoey779]

Steam engines where still in uses in the 1950s. Right?

[@armorpro573]

Well yeah. We didn't fully get rid of steam until the mid 60s

[@thelateguy2349]

what if this film is based on a True Story??.....

[@WarbonnetProductions]

TheLateGuy 234 Government secrets lol.

[@bondseanbond5190]

@@WarbonnetProductions don’t ever cause a Train Accident and also don’t let your thoughts get in the way! It’s fine just the way it is so there.

[@bigbadseed7665]

1:39 To Be Continued...