The Isle Concept Analysis | Allosaurus

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Hello everyone, and welcome to another The Isle Concept Analysis! This is a series I will be making for the following weeks where I explore and analyse all the dinosaur concepts that the devs have been releasing since 2020. Today we are going to discuss the Allosaurus.
Hope you all enjoy the video :)
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Chapters:
Intro 0:00
Original 0:25
Asset 3:11
Concept 4:43
Speculation 6:02
Outro 7:11
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#TheIsle #TheIsleEvrima #Evrima #ConceptArt #Concept #ConceptAnalysis #GameAnalysis #XZaguer #allosaurus #Roadmap #TheIsleRoadmap

[@albino4160]

I think the allo charge out of the brush is linked to a mixture of carnos charge and utahs pounce, which is why they put there mechanics in first, the allo will probably charge at prey at a great speed for limited time and if it's smaller than it like shown with Cera it will pounce it and pin it and if it's large than it, it will likely grapple on shown with Para it's literally so obvious what he can do

[@otze89]

Exactly my thoughts! I also like the ides of it being able to carry bigger chunks of meat or small corpses with its arms. That way you'd be able to move way more food towards your nest or to safety.

[@DanDan-qj4ou]

I think your right

[@Kio_vidz]

I hope yes, allo was my main in legacy and i wish i can play him like that in evrima too. I hope update 6.5 is gonna be fixing our all problems or at least most of them.

[@gajspalt]

I'll say it again. Utah > Wild Dog Carno > Cheetah Cerato > Hyena Allo > Lion

[@gajspalt]

@@varatic644 Pretty much yeah. It's not a bad idea to model their roles in a fictional ecosystem based on irl animals.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

Herrera is leopard

[@TheDinoNerd]

Just a little fact here, did you know that hyenas actually only scavenge 10% of their meals while lions scavenge 25%?

[@NM-ue8on]

What about buffalo ? Dibble? Trike? Hippos? Elephants ? Hmmm

[@crabhater9373]

Allo seems to be the most anticipated upcoming creature, and for good reason. It seems to be the spitting image of a generic therapod, but in all the right ways. In terms of size, it is middle of the road with no lopsided physical proportions like carno's baby arms. It is fast, can ambush, has decent overall stats, has good bleed, can form packs, and has claws. No matter what animal it fights, it will always have an advantage in some way. In this sense, allo is the swiss army knife of the isle, able to fit the mold of whatever it needs to be in the moment. The problem allo will face is competition with other predators that share the same build and niche. Bary and sucho in particular are both around the same size, and both use claws to fight. There are some differences such as size and how bary and sucho are semi aquatic animals, but the overlap is significant. Balancing not only the stats but the mechanics are very important because it can be very easy for the slightest disadvantage to make an animal completely unviable.

[@Jeff_Reyx]

Allosaurus canno't be generic therapod because, as its name suggests, it is diffrent lizard than others

[@deergutter8241]

“Para should run from allos and other mid tier carnivores.”-kissen Para: *is 3x the size of an allo and would very likely dom them with a kick or tail slap if they met irl*

[@infernowolf8914]

Yeah, it’s unfortunate how the devs have, and are continuing to do Para dirty

[@Luceat_]

It's also funny how they treat Magy better than Para, i just start to cry when i see them doing Para dirty.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

Let's wait for the para concept art before making speculations

[@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927]

Allosaurus could get lengths up to 35 feet, their pretty similar. But I’m assuming this allo is the smaller one

[@realdaggerman105]

@@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927 Length does not equal size. Paras are always going to be significantly more bulky than allos.

[@manofmemes7315]

1:41 they didn't make packs, but they did something similar, where if there was enough allos in the area and there was a big sauropod or a sauropod herd they would temporarily all congregate in numbers up to around 30 or 40 allos or 20 in order to take it or one down, and then when they kill it they just act like they don't know each other and will attack if one gets too close to the other Edit: allo might not be getting a ambush sprint, instead it could have it's acceleration speed be basically instant but slightly slower than utahs acceleration

[@DanDan-qj4ou]

Ya

[@irondudeful]

It’s widely debated whether they packed regularly or opportunistically (as you mentioned) however multiple groups being fossilized together more strongly supports the idea that they were communal/pack animals

[@nikolasdemoulin8093]

Complete invention on your end. We have zero idea of their social behaviors. These are animals that have been gone for over 150+ million years, stop speaking on their social behaviors as if you’ve witnessed them like lions and it’s settled fact. All we know for sure is many are found fossilized together, which can hint at communal living like wolves, or perhaps it was a death pit and many allos simply got stuck and died whilst trying to scavange, from whatever it was that caused the deaths (be it a tar pit or toxic fumes). We have no idea in reality how they behaved or their social structures. That stuff doesn’t exactly fossilize.

[@espinossauroquilombense9777]

allosaurus has officially 2 running animations when it's animations were shown alongside half of the still unreleased roster 2 years ago, and one was a normal run, wiht the other being a faster sprint, soooo.....

[@dakomii]

Lovely video as always Zag! Thorough, in depth and includes great paleo info. Keep it up!

[@berxerk8161]

Love your concept videos! 💕 The Acro concept is the main thing I am waiting for at this point, as it was my favorite underdog from Legacy!

[@abaddon3710]

sorry for everyone who likes pack hunting but it is more likely that allo hunted in more loose organized gangs like Komodo dragons.

[@DimitriHellas]

Well mr warmaster, though there is little proof so far that allos hunted in packs, there isnt something to disprove it yet so i think it's not a bad idea for the game

[@mrspino4002]

I honestly wanted to see how it clashed with Albertosaurus in this concept, hopefully when Albertos concept is shown, we'll be able to see how their rivalry will play out.

[@crabhater9373]

From what the devs have said in the past it seems the goal will be a focus on skill based gameplay in matchups. The devs want animals of similar weight classes to be competitive against each other, so This particular matchup would probably be decided by things like skill, diet, circumstances, etc. Albertosaurus will probably have the advantage in damage trading since its basically a mini rex, but allo will probably be able to out bleed and out maneuver an albertosaurus. Also allo would probably have a numerical advantage. I think the more important matchups are between allo, bary, and sucho. They seem to have similar builds, except allo isn't semiaquatic.

[@crabhater9373]

@@varatic644 they are both medium sized fast predators that focus on using their claws. If you look at a size chart they're pretty similar. Yeah Allo is bigger but pachy is also smaller than carnos but can kill a carno. They have very similar niches and are gameplay wise are the closest competition.

[@Wonone-Buppyone]

Dude I just found your channel and these videos are amazing, I’m sad I didn’t find you sooner

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

Perfect video of a perfect concept art

[@sober1.6]

Been waiting for this FOR SO LONG

[@saitou4412]

me too!! but i cant wait

[@stramaus_]

I don't understand the point of eating homalocephale, when it will give you less than 1% food :/. They present this feature of dig in a burrow like : "Oh my god, you see! what will you be abble to do ???!!!! Owowowowo!" The isle ☕

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

That mechanic is not made so you go searching for burrows, it just means if you find a burrow while doing other thing you can get a free meal

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 "get a free meal" then why are ANY borrowers even going to be in the game when they're all made unviable by the megatheropods

[@sauraplay2095]

Great video X Zaguer! I love this series!

[@Kio_vidz]

For sure it will be a pack hunter to up to 4 or 3 adult pack members, it may be best bleeder and mid tier predator in game (not mentioning cera but he was mentioned to be very slow so yeah, very small danger exept if you wanna eat peacefully), it has also charge pounce ability to pin down a smaller pray than his size and pounce like utah the bigger ones as showed in its concept art- para got pounced and cera got pinned.

[@flightlesslord2688]

I imagine it like a smaller faster giga, able to keep up with something like a tenonto (similar to camptosaurus) or even dryo in a sprint, able to mob larger prey to exhaustion. It should also be a good scavenger, maybe being able to get more meat off carcasses, whilst cerato, rex and alberto are able to eat bone as well. Allo is thought to have been gregarious but not a coordinated pack hunter. Like how crocodiles will attack something all at once, and when it comes to feeding its a free for all. A lot of allos in bone beds might have been killed by other allos during feeding frenzies. So I think allo should play as a fast hunter, capable of taking down apexes in a mob, and recovering from wounds well. Giving it high nutritional needs would help balance this, create competition within groups: limiting how common they are, their size and how long people stick together. This would also make it difficult to get to adulthood, to reflect their violent and often short lives. It should be a dino you have to take risks with, not OP but can still take on a stego and survive if it fails. Also uh, cerato was only a bit smaller, was bulkier and had a stronger bite. It was rarer but it wasn't just a punching bag. It should have a relatively equal match up against cerato which could take more hits in a fight but Allo could recover from very severe wounds which would balance the 2. If an allo survived a fight it would be able to recover, but the cerato might not get as damaged in the fight itself, and be able to inflict more damage thanks to the stronger bite.

[@DimitriHellas]

Well, both of them have several subspecies but only the largest is even close to an Allo in size so a fight between them should favour an Allo but the cerato should be something the Allo shouldn't want to attack unless starving

[@flightlesslord2688]

@@DimitriHellas indeed

[@woogieboogie3889]

At the time I write this, there is speculation that allo may be a surprise drop. Dibble is in hordetesting and will drop soon. With trike and rex supposed to be next. If allo drops as a surprise before or alongside trike and rex it may prove to be a vital link between the 2 apexs and the rest of the roster. Also considering the possibilities of the new pounce to pin mechanics, a pack of allos will be able to keep the numbers of rex and trike in check by being able to pin them all the way up to and possibly including full grown trikes and rexs. As the speculation surrounding the new mechanics suggests that if enough raptors pounce onto a full grown stego with enough drained stamina they can pin it. The same could occur with allos and rex or trike. Allo may prove to be the lynch pin that facilitates balance for the roster now and moving forward.

[@tsbro2995]

Personally I love these videos, but I also love he goes over the isle history of the dinos Also ngl concept could be a little more descriptive

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

You cant describe more with drawings

[@tsbro2995]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 I messed up my words, What I ment was more concepts describing what allo might be like

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

@@tsbro2995 oh ok, but I guess if allo was going to get another mechanic they would have shown us

[@Exquailibur]

Allos are my nemesis, I am a cerato guy. I do want them in the game though so that I can showcase the cerato's superiority.

[@DimitriHellas]

L

[@drakebryant3821]

I think the little part with allo tackling cera is both showing the rivalry between the two and how their both capable of going against eachother especially how we know cera is going to be a pretty dangerous foe due to it being strong and tanky to bully others and having an ability that likely infects others, also I do think allo being ambush based is not a bad idea since the fact that it was said magy was faster than it while being a sauropod of decent size and how allo has tools that can allow for better ambushes, so i think making allo like that works well since it doesnt try to be similar to carnos roll of being a fast, low maneuverable rammer to take down prey quickly and ceras roll of being a big bully made to eat rotten corpses

[@mvbnv7006]

Like your speculations and give grounding facts so it is easier to follow. If the ambush mechanic is reintroduced like in legacy then we will see crawling allos on daily bases. Think they want to prevent that and mimic somewhat the carno boost ability but be able to accelerate quickly from stands at the cost of stamina. And grappling at contact instead of knocking it down. This may be supported by the allo ambushing the galli and after we see it gripping the para and cerato.

[@zombie_hunter_spidey_fan6663]

I am so excited to main allosaurus again!!! My own personal theories about the allosaurus were almost true and I hope that the allo can make paras and ceratos cry in the corner muuuwahaha🤣🤣😈

[@indigo2018]

ceratos>

[@iamandyFEARME]

we have no proof they were pack hunters and it's unlikely that they were. this goes for all of dinosauria.

[@waterenjoyer7850]

Unlikely is not a word I would use, but then again how many fossilized packs have been found

[@theswiftphil8789]

Pov: you play dinosaur game but don't play dinosaur research

[@iamandyFEARME]

@@waterenjoyer7850 i think media hypes it up too much, it would be awesome dont get me wrong. they may have had cooperative predation events but no coordination on the level of packing behavior in mammals. a lot of scientists have suggested it would likely be similar to komodo dragon hunting behavior which is that they just circumstantially come across the same prey, perhaps drawn in through the smell of blood or something.

[@duder7396]

Albertosaurus:

[@StelloTyrannus]

I wouldn’t approach it this way. Monospecific bonebeds like what are seen in Dromaeosaurs, allosauroids, and tyrannosaurids are still a mystery yes. And the recent backing that they weren’t packs simply seems to go into the fact that very few of their close relatives don’t have complex pack structures as seen in mammals. While this is true, I don’t think we should leave out pack hunting entirely, simply due to the fact that these dinosaurs are filling similar niches to mammalian carnivorans that are commonly known to pack hunt. These bonebeds aren’t the best evidence since they could indicate a variety of scenarios, but they ARE evidence nonetheless. Heck, I would even call Komodo dragon and crocodile style mobbing a form of cooperative hunting, hence.. pack hunting. And going on all of dinosauria, there’s plenty of evidence that dinosaurs commonly associated with each other, carnivores and herbivores alike And frankly I hope allosaurus is promoted as a pack hunter in the isle, maybe a scaled up Utahraptor even. That’d be super fun imo.

[@dougthetyrannosaurus2297]

5:27 I feel like this represents Allo's casually attacking Ceratos either their rivals or maybe a who eats who situation where Baby Ceratos could be snacks for Allos and Baby Allos could be snacks Ceratos also it might be like a Wolf And Coyote Thing Where Ceratos Are the Coyotes And Allos Are The Wolves But Remember It's Just a Theory A DINO THEORY Sorry I had too

[@Kurominos1]

it could be much cause somehow there is not any real fossil evidence Allo and Cerato ever fightet or competet only thign was Allo was more common then Cerato so the whole Allo is better then Cera and kills every Cera it sees is just human logik but prob not what in reality where going on just cause one is less common in africa you also have less common carnivores then Hyenas and Lions ,,,but dont get killed by them theyr just in general ,,less common

[@dougthetyrannosaurus2297]

Lol the funny part is that I was gonna say but I forgot is that probably just diffrent ways the grab works If it is medium its a pin but if it smaller it's a grab 😅

[@doragonzx]

Now im wondering if They will make Elder allos Saurophaganax...Would it Allo to enter Apex tier? Since Saurophaganax was around 13 meters long, if they did made saurophaganax the elder Allo, it would be a force to be recon with.

[@irondudeful]

Allosaurus fragilis are still speculated to have been able to grow to 38 feet long (rivaling T-Rex), I think it would be amazing to get an Apex Allo as an elder

[@SuperGalfrieg12]

Awesome video, also, your accent is beautiful. Mind telling me what it is? Anyways, keep it up :)

[@XZaguer]

Thank you for the compliment 🙂 it's European Portuguese

[@SuperGalfrieg12]

@@XZaguer that’s awesome :)

[@tdwwolf6107]

I hope that the allo will be trash by players who aren’t skilled, but a good if the player is skilled. I want allo to be a skill heavy dino

[@lucassam1324]

its going to be so long intell thay are going to add allo

[@Bagelgeuse]

Allosaurus is a based dinosaur. That's all I've got, good bye.

[@gambitaku6179]

Hey there

[@scottthesmartape9151]

nice

[@Shemp3791]

Random question are you Portuguese? My GF who is, was listening in while I was watching you, she rekons you're 100% Portuguese from your accent so we have a little bet going if you are or not and there's a chocolate bar on the line. Good video thanks for content 👍

[@XZaguer]

Buy your girl a bar, and thank you 🙂

[@emidiodejesustaylor9604]

yes

[@Shemp3791]

@@XZaguer haha ok thanks for the answer bud

[@merikh1512]

How is ur game looking so good bruh

[@eggo5809]

Can’t wait for allosaurus, but Evrima is kinda unplayable for me because my ping rises to 102 and my fps drops to 14 when fighting other dinos

[@tdwwolf6107]

I just started playing the isle a few weeks ago and haven’t played legacy. But I’m planning on going over soon bc I have died countless times because of broken hit boxes or because of bugs.

[@zacktory161]

Ceras and Allos "rivalry", when Cera has actually 0 chance against an allo, atleast in Legacy :P

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

What? A cerato in legacy is more than capable of killing allo, I dont even remember the last time an allo killed me playing cerato

[@realdaggerman105]

A cera has a better turn by far.

[@TaintedNimbus]

Cerato wins as long as the Allo doesn't abuse it's ambush repeatedly in the fight. Really all it takes is an allo who knows what to do to win the fight, no matter how good the cera may be.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

@@TaintedNimbus allo cant be in ambush all time, believe, no allo can kill me, and if I'm close to a forest there is no way it can kill a cerato

[@TaintedNimbus]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 I think you've being overly cocky. If allo has the slightest idea you're nearby and it's a direct fight, he can just bite once in ambush, run, and repeat. There isn't a single thing you can do outside of die or hope he misses a bite.

[@kittycatcpieqw7772]

♥️♥️

[@gracefuldove8414]

ground bird

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

I don't think is hinting ambush, I think is showing us an opposite thing, that allo is not super fast,and it will need to catch preys by surprise, but in the case allo really get ambush, I think it shouldn't last more than 5/10 seconds

[@ninettebolinder9388]

Egen Getting realezed?

[@_solitario_3720]

a lot in the future... very much future

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

3 years

[@ggsmrdoink]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 8 years*

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

@@ggsmrdoink no, I really mean it, you exaggerate a lot, development is very slow, but not that slow

[@ggsmrdoink]

@@ender_z4nd3r83 thunk about it, in the past 3 years of evrima we have gotten 5 major updates with only 9 playables the next few playable are pretty much confirmed to be beipiaosaurus, stethocanthosaurus, ceratosaurus, and gallimimus which will take another few years. And seeing that the concept art just came out its likely to assume we are not gonna be seeing this guy for atleast more than 6 years

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

@@ggsmrdoink what? Galli beipi and cerato, and maybe herrera, all of them will get them next year, I understand you dont believe it, is also hard for me to believe it

[@IDK-kj1vl]

IF allo going to be getting ambush speed shouldn’t all the carnivores have it?

[@Misto_deVito6009]

All ambush predators yeah

[@ryancramp7720]

The game is trying to be more to the real life counter parts of the real life dinosaurs allo was an ambush predator like trex so it makes sense allo should have it

[@saitou4412]

allo 2 years later?

[@kayamkara6138]

2 years? Ahahah

[@saitou4412]

@@kayamkara6138 more late???

[@zacktory161]

oof i wait until the premieres is over and i can actually watch the video...

[@cro-magnoncarol4017]

Oh boy! Para is going to suck so bad...

[@Kurominos1]

everyone loosing theyr midn cause Allo is so cool asnd so "handsome" uwu ..allo meanwhile Torvosaurus was actually the apex during htis time and way bigger then Allo same iwth no fossil effidence that allo ever huntet Cera or the other way around only that Cera was less common then Allo even that Cera was way more addaptet to hunt in river sides and swampy areas while allo prefered dry open fields and the old drope ,,,Hadrosaurs are weak fat ...punchign bags who cant defend themself gets old ,,,way to much somehow only< shant or edmonto can defend themself everyone else in the grouping is just dumb aF ? even most hadrosaurs where more then able to destroy mid-tier Carnivores if they had to fight

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

Not really, north america torvosaurus was smaller than allo, where torvo was bigger than allo was on europe, but yeah europe torvo was bigger than north american allo

[@AlloArtz]

In North America, Allosaurus was the most dominant predator as it filled most of the predator role in the Morrison Formation. If anything there would be more competition between Ceratosaurus and Torvosaurus due to both of them living in similar habitats which were Riverways and forests, while Allosaurus (and Saurophaganax) would've hunting in the open fields. This was all remember about the predator roles during the Morrison Formation. I definitely can be wrong tho.

[@DimitriHellas]

Torvo lived in forested areas and was far less common, same with cerato meaning both were less successful than Allo

[@Kurominos1]

that literally dont means its less sucessfull lol do you even have any idea about how animals work ? or oyur now just fanboying over allo lets see thers dev more Jacals in Africa then Caracals for every Caracal there come like 10 + Jacals stil lthe Caracal is more sucessfull then the Jacals also when your better at doing stuff you generally dont have the need to reproduce like crazy cause most of your young will survive anyway to adulthood