The issue of 72 virgins. A response to the Atheists and Christians and Jews.

[@shahid8545]

Heaven is a place of no filth,no depression, no ill feelings, no sickness, no back stabbing or malice, no evil eye, no jealousy, no envy, no pain, no weaknesses, no aging, no dying, no anger. If God gives his servants whatever they wish as a reward for abiding by the divine law then so be it and women will also have what they desire. I don't see what the problem is.

[@DestinyAwaits19]

But islamic heaven IS a place of filth. Our sexual desires reflect worldly persuits. They are of this world. In Heaven there is no sexuality, because it is inherently filthy. And filth has no place in the most high. So your religion is wrong.

[@ratnakartandra5728]

Well the problem is that you don't see what the problem is.

[@JesusIsWithYouNowPrayToHim]

​My guy which woman desires to be slept with for eternal??? In Heaven THERE IS NO SEX!!! SIMPLE!! We will be like angels not Humans which sleep with Virgins!! Islam is a man made religion, you can just see this straight forward!!

[@shahid8545]

@@ratnakartandra5728 Riveting

[@Hey_you_______x]

Not servants, SLAVES, Abdul...

[@ICEAiseliasGamingChannel]

The fear of getting abandonned and the fear of getting betrayed. I also have that fear but im stay being a muslim. I actually dont want anything that much after i die. Like virgins, castle wtf. I dont understand if we going into heaven we supposed has no lust anymore. Then why this all virgins thingly again so thats not what i wanted. My target is only reach heaven.

[@Russ--R]

"I actually dont want anything that much after i die." - That's good then as you won't be getting anything.

[@ICEAiseliasGamingChannel]

@@Russ--R well...... heaven has free foods and free drinks river, i think thats already enough so what else 🤔 The only one confusing are we still has lust or not. Are we still allowed making babies in there??? Thats only thing confusing me 😂😂 It said in heaven we all keeping in same age.

[@Russ--R]

@@ICEAiseliasGamingChannel "heaven has free foods and free drinks river, i think thats already enough so what else" - Yeah, food, rivers and drinks are all physical.

[@ICEAiseliasGamingChannel]

@@Russ--R yeah, so what? You want non-psychal things? We can see angels, Allah, and everyone who already dead are there like historical ppl in the world. We can see all the prophets too. We can see our died family there.

[@ICEAiseliasGamingChannel]

​​@@Russ--RYea so what? You want non psychal or kinda impossible things? We can see Angels, see Allah, see historical figure who is already die long time ago. We can meet prophet, Family member who is already died/our anchestors. Just like the other comment said there place 'no evil eye', 'no depression' so yea a very safe place there than a hell. I dont really care whatever in heaven, leme think what i want to do if i reach there first. At least im not throw away to hell.

[@resueah7257]

Many atheists have stronger, deeper, more authentic and internally compassionate moral standards than many religious folk who just adhere to some cult leader’s sales pitch and fear propaganda and love their families and community highly conditionally. Ppl get triggered by the concept of many wives because it speaks to the exploitation of women and male lust inherent to many patriarchal faith systems and history. To say that, I am speaking very superficially instead of acknowledging further complexities of men being with their earth wives in heaven. If a woman really loved her first late husband, does she go with him or with the second? How material and rooted in base human desires do you really imagine this heaven to be? What does heaven look like for one of these 72 wives, is she happy? Your niece has some good questions and it’s a shame it only took until now to reach your ears

[@mills9402]

Where does the idea that atheists are of higher moral standards because they think independently reside? How have you come to such a conclusion?

[@dr.muhammadadeel]

I already knew what to say to my niece. She was not the reason this came to my attention. You are making assumptions. Lenin and Stalin were atheists. They killed millions. Atheists do not have any moral standards. They change their standards whenever it suits them.

[@resueah7257]

@@dr.muhammadadeel Sure, I might be making assumptions but you’re making ginormous leaps in causation referring to Lenin and Stalin as being exemplary of atheistic morality. It’s quite a hilarious reference to mass violence for someone heralding a religion which spread through empirical conquest foremost. Most atheists are good of heart well-intentioned, most Muslims are good too, to be fair, but the religion often makes them worse than they could be if they are really free to choose compassion and empathy for the sake of compassion and empathy alone. Also this talk about westerners going through 100 partners before they settle.. lol. Some do, yes sure, and often those are the ones who came from very strict/religious/traumatizing backgrounds to begin with. I know a few, and usually they emerged from a strong rebellion to long-standing familial oppression of some kind. Most sensible/grown people eventually come to realize that kind of approach to life is unfulfilling and empty, for the most part. Any argument for Islam falls flat when you begin to unpack it eventually, but the excuses and circular logic is abundant.

[@mills9402]

Atheists change their morals whenever it suits them and truth be told most self identifying serious atheists act the same way you describe religion also how do you assume that most polygamous people come from religious backgrounds what base does your argument have

[@mills9402]

@@resueah7257 once again I'm asking you to provide SOME BASIS for these claims perhaps some statistics or historical records a claim isn't a claim unless it has a root

[@victorgoodluck7843]

lmao this is a stinker

[@Aaron-xn7dg]

1. Not everything goes when you're an atheist, that is either projection of the beliefs that you hold onto others or a straw man argument against a fringe part of atheism 2. you can arrive at a moral compass without God

[@dr.muhammadadeel]

There is no moral compass without God.

[@Aaron-xn7dg]

@@dr.muhammadadeel Yes you can arrive at a moral compass, without God. Read Nietzsche.

[@dr.muhammadadeel]

@@Aaron-xn7dg Reading is one thing observation is another. At present west has become a big mess because of the lack of moral standards. They are changing genders of children and teaching them about immoral things at a young age. You might be fine with this but I am not because I have a moral standard and you dont. Tell me what is the logical argument against sibling or parent/child marriage?

[@user-vb3ri5gh6r]

@@dr.muhammadadeel if you cannot have sex in Kaba or inside or outside the Kabba, you cannot have sex in heaven around God presence and kingdom ! In Christianity. No sex inside the house of God, no sex in around hid kingdom! Did people got God said they pleasure more than sexuality, bring food carnal desire, pleasure, joy that make all this thing look like pain in compared to what you will give to us so he said no sex in his having here or no if he was for purpose in heaven, we cannot have the same thing That will never happen. Your heaven doesn’t attract us, it repulse us!

[@user-vb3ri5gh6r]

@@Knggrrggdryhfg ⁠​⁠ The God of bible said For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. Our sins started in our hearts where God see them clearly! What does Islam offer?

[@ChristianAnimator]

pure lust, the reason Islam expanded so fast among the Arabs

[@dr.muhammadadeel]

So what do you say about Solomon PBUH having 700 wives? You did not reply to my question. Is that lust by your definition. You guys tend to bash Islam when all of the things you bash us about are in your own scripture.

[@ChristianAnimator]

@@dr.muhammadadeel actually that's a sin from Solomon, we never say that Salomon or David did good having multiple wives, it's actually forbidden in the law of Moses.

[@ChristianAnimator]

@@dr.muhammadadeel on the Bible both, Solomon and David committed adultery, we don't say everything biblical characters did was right just because they are in Bible

[@dr.muhammadadeel]

@@ChristianAnimator You are making things up here. Solomon was a Prophet of God. He was the son of David. You probably never studied Christianity from a teacher. This is not the standard Christian and Jewish understanding

[@ChristianAnimator]

@@dr.muhammadadeel ok I know the Muslim narrative, that's not how it works neither for the Christians nor the Jews. We recognize they were prophets, but for us we know they were humans, and not perfect people, we don't believe they were sinless, and as I said the law of Moses forbids anyone from marrying more than one woman. So yeah you should check the law of Moses . And why both David and Solomon were punished by God.