The italians can make great bikes! 🇮🇹 @BassoBikes_HQ

[@VIEultimate]

Good to know that there are still companies that care about their products.

[@asams7255]

State of the industry where correctly faced surfaces and decent paintwork is incredible and not the benchmark

[@Robutube1]

So true!

[@richardmcdonald307]

But they will still charge you £10k

[@diehardbikes]

​@richardmcdonald307 for once, 10k for a bike that is actually properly made? No cut corners? Not made in China? Frame protection put in several places from factory? Painted right and faced? Many brands don't do any of these and still charge you 10k. Which would you choose for 10k? A properly made bike, or an improperly made bike? That's the point. For once, I would pay 10k for a well made bike.

[@EllasPOSEiDON]

Specially if we see the frame prices. This should be normal, nothing extraordinary.

[@deantranter1258]

According to Basso the Venta frame is made in Italy.

[@Mapdec]

I misspoke. It been a week

[@shhhdontshout]

Manufactured in italy? Or just actually 'finished' in italy? Most they just import back those frames from taiwan,china then paint, assembled in italy then called it 'made in italy' 😂

[@nuArk-eq9mq]

Basso company is no slouch, maintaining good quality as always like in the era of classic steel road bikes

[@WesleyNeedles]

@@shhhdontshoutit’s actually all made in Italy. Check their channel and manufacturing label

[@shhhdontshout]

@@WesleyNeedles really? Good, like Daccordi. Truly 'handmade' in their factory in italy using italian made carbon tubing (atleast thats what they cllaimed)

[@zappenduster7]

I have a Basso Venta as well and it´s been a very lovely bike so far. Made in Italy carbon bike, a reasonable price, excellent quality. Had a budget left over for a saddle and wheel upgrades. And I have a matching blue Basso Gap from the 90s. Love this brand!

[@trwilliams22]

I used to have a steel Basso. Super comfy ride. Glad to see the company is still doing well.

[@123oner2]

Great to see a more family orientated business making quality products. Nice that it's all done 'at home' witth hem as well. Brilliant

[@sebastianm2381]

I really like the Diamante SV design wise. Plus the fact that they are actually manufacturing in Europe. Kudos to them. Nice to see that the quality is there as well.

[@jameshancock18]

Started watching your videos along with hambini’s recently, huge insight into how bad some manufacturers are with QC on bottom brackets. Nice to see there’s still good stuff available

[@Mapdec]

Thanks for watching

[@wearejames1]

It is great that you are giving the thumbs up to high quality finishing on this carbon frame. Why can't all the top manufacturers do the same, these frames cost thousands, anything less IMO is an insult to the paying customer.

[@ev-ezaye3580]

Exactly!

[@kevinfrost1579]

Nice shout out where it’s deserved. Good to see Paul, Cheers 👋

[@victorrodriguez2806]

Basso, are a great family run business. If you can get your hands on one, you'll fall in love with the bike.

[@paulstuart9465]

People should only buy from those companies that do real QC . Meeting industry stated specifications and facing mounting surfaces where necessary. All power to basso. Shame on those who peddle substandard goods and expect the customer to perform corrective work. Especially, those wanting a king's ransom for a frameset that they pay next to nothing for.

[@valiantabello]

I love my Basso Venta, never going to another brand

[@Mapdec]

Hey Valiant. Haven’t seen you in the comments for a while. Hope all well

[@mk-yg7op]

I want to thank you very much for raising awareness among buyers, but ultimately also among manufacturers, about the importance of the quality of bicycle frames with videos like these. It is absolutely unacceptable that carbon frame sets costing around 5000 euros are sold where the bottom bracket shell or brake caliper mount needs to be reworked afterwards.

[@Paddystyx]

I have one, beautiful bike.

[@freezteil1]

The Italians generally make lot of verry good mecánics.

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

It's literally the opposite, italians are incapable of producing high quality vehicles. Regardless if we talk about cars, motorcycles or bikes, Italian stuff is about posh and high prices rather than quality and engineering

[@rosshole]

Interesting frame-protector -- a contoured, form-fitting (3-D) sticker 🤔 Clever engineering in & of itself!

[@deadelvis66]

One of the few Italian bikes actually made in Italy. I have a basso Astra. Lively Matt black…although not used in over a year as most time spent mountain biking with my son😬

[@garybird8646]

Knew a guy that rode on a team that had a deal with Basso, he got through three frames and he wasn't the only one.

[@rosshole]

What do u mean "he got through"?

[@chrisgleave6364]

I’ve ordered a Basso Palta frame set, I’ve had a call from my LBS and it is due next week

[@DaveCM]

I almost bought that frameset myself.

[@diehardbikes]

​@DaveCM you should have!

[@jaredmcdaniel6896]

Every part of basso bikes is made in house in Italy even the laying of the carbon they oversee every step

[@basengelblik5199]

Lovely ending

[@JaiJai-by4tp]

The short distance to the rear mech is terrible if you go mechanical with these .They are clearly made for electronic shifting

[@aljaliah6868]

They all seem to be coming back to Europe, I think BIANCHI is relocating to Italy in 2024 and it’s already increased their order book

[@therainbowgulag.]

Wow! A bike manufacturer making a product that works.

[@trroland1248]

O.k. then. Who produces the Venta model on contract for Basso in Spain? Is it the same factory which produces bikes for Orbea or BH? That is the way of the bike industry. Also, why was a brake mount adapter needed? Cheers.

[@Mapdec]

To run 160mm rotors

[@simonalexandercritchley439]

Shock horror,and round holes are round? Making something properly should be a given imho but good to see. Are Basso anything to do with Ivan Basso?

[@rogerwilliamson7161]

No, no connection.

[@diehardbikes]

We agree that these things should be a given, but unfortunately they are not. That's why when we see it, and all the details line up like this, it's a wonderful sight indeed. Beautiful and something that would fill me with joy to see!

[@LucaBonato]

They actually produce most of their frames in Italy. It's the same family of lee cougan

[@JacquesMoore-Hurley]

What do you make of the proprietary Seatpost design and function? It put me off this frame

[@Mapdec]

As far as proprietary ones go this is well made and functions well. Got a clever sleeve design I quite like.

[@rosshole]

Yeah, Italians know a thing or two about making great bikes.😂

[@danielhertercasagrande1686]

I had a Basso Steel bike many years ago I sold it bécause I had no place for all my bikes - Basso had the reputation to build high quality painting was far better than my Masi and Colnago bikes - no chrome (tube manufacturers prohibit chroming because of the whole process aggressive baths sanding etc) Thus they are indestructible

[@domestique3954]

Actually that’s not true-I had one of the first Basso steel frames in Germany ~ 1982 and it had a chrome microfusion fork,chromed chainstays and the hit was the indentation at the left side of the top tube where the rear brake cable was pressed in. Impressive sportive geometry,outstanding paint job( metallic red with white decals) and with Campagnolo super record. One of the best bikes i’ve ever raced,together with the gios*torino

[@millsshumps1968]

I have reservations about bike brands in terms of their origin and where the majority of their bikes and components are actually made. Orbea from Spain, also make quality bikes but they don't have the same marketing prowess as other brand names. Historically I can't think of any brand name from its country of origin (with the exception of China) that is successful in doing everything in-house as well as exporting.

[@Mapdec]

We defo need greater clarity

[@joehart3826]

Hambini time?

[@Mapdec]

No need.

[@AndreasHappyfarm]

Spain?

[@Mapdec]

I meat Italy. Both amazing countries with coffee bike and mountains.

[@cx123456]

A bike shill comes out of a bakery: - OMG, no mold, I just wet myself.

[@joegiro4433]

Full video please! Like with your Look 765 Optimum 🙏

[@Mapdec]

Kinda. Don’t quite have the time. I am putting something together though.

[@thomasgonin9133]

Orbea is a spanish brand...

[@barryherron5351]

Nice, £2599 off wiggle sound good?

[@Mapdec]

Yeah. Bargain

[@se7ensnakes]

is this spanish or italian?

[@Mapdec]

Italian

[@simonderoo9189]

Their frames are great, their wheels aren't, I've seen multiple wheelset that make a creaking noise because the spokes rub

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

Press X to doubt. X

[@purpleaki7135]

Italian bikes are great but why are you showing a bike made in Spain?

[@rosshole]

Made in Italy, not Spain. -- He commented that he mispoke, corrected himself.

[@jonb5397]

Let's see what hambini has to say about it

[@leebob6521]

Made in Spain?? I believe it’s one of the only companies still hand building theirs bikes in “Italy” not Spain. Who is this guy!

[@Mapdec]

It’s great for comments.

[@Metal-Possum]

Italian bikes historically were never as good as the paint jobs and athletes lead us to believe. The French and English generally did a better job of a lot of things, but somehow they're not the brands old men are buying to hang on their wall, or refit with a horrendously tall stem so they can pretend to enjoy riding them again.

[@Neilz911]

My wife has a venta and the paint quality is horrible the rest of the bike is fine.

[@Mapdec]

Oh no. What happened. Did you take it back?

[@Neilz911]

@@Mapdec the paint is very vulnerable to impacts more than any other carbon bike frame my wife or i had and thats a lot (2 x cube, 2x canyon, specialized, pinarello and colnago) and all the others are doing much better. There are many places at the vente where the paint is missing and you dont know why. And at other spots the paint got "washed" away by dirt water while riding in rainy conditions, this only happens at the ventas paint... ... Basso Support offered a paint repair Stick. And they answered its all caused by impacts so its Our fold. What makes it even worse is that the color "purple lable" is very dark and the base layer is light grey, so the bike looks pretty beaten up.

[@tomast7911]

@@Neilz911 I agree with you, I have Basson Diamante and have same experiences. Paint goes down pretty easy :-( in compare to my other bikes

[@richarddinning6901]

Electric bikes i don't like. They are defeating the purpose of a push bike to keep you fit 💪

[@lfoster7601]

Basso are Italian

[@stressle55]

Spain really ? I always believe they're from Italy...

[@Mapdec]

Ahh. Thanks for the correction. Brain fog today 🤪

[@aljaliah6868]

@@Mapdec Have a coffee, an Italian 🇮🇹 coffee at that 😂

[@Dellvmnyam]

Lmao

[@juanhidalgo7043]

Well basso a former dopper (performance drugs) I would not buy this brand and besides why have a bike with someone’s name sorry my option.

[@Mapdec]

Different Basso. No connection to Ivan Basso

[@geekpharm2108]

Theres youre problem right there pressfit and disc brakes👎