The Kennedy Assassination: Inside the Book Depository - Lemmino Reaction Part 4

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[@jackhughman4398]

I'm sorry, but I still find it impossible to believe that LEMMiNO acted alone in this. Look at the planning, the amount of time spent in preparation - it's too much for one skinny, insignificant guy. I heard from at least 3 people that this assassination video was coming out several days before it happened! How could they have known that? It's said that he's responsible for all the diagrams, the annotations, animations, even the music - all done by one man? You know that he hadn't posted for nearly a year before this? Where was he? Just take a look at a map. See how close Sweden is to Russia? Is that supposed to just be a co-incidence? We all listen to that accent, but how many of us can swear that it isn't from Smolensk instead of Stockholm? You sheeple can believe what you like, but you ain't fooling me!

[@jeffbenton6183]

This comment is criminally underrated Thanks so much for posting!

[@jackhughman4398]

Thank you, Sir, but these questions need to be asked. I hope and pray that one day, the truth will be found

[@peterfraser9070]

That better be a joke 🙃

[@-THE_META]

It's all there, just staring us in the face!

[@peterfraser9070]

@@-THE_META Exactly, Oswald in that window shooting away...yep

[@Ozai75]

Lemmino continues to knock it out of the park. He's just astoundingly good at what he does. Loved everything that you added Chris. It really all comes down to the fact that we, as human beings, want to find order in chaos...and we have a hard time coming to grips with the fact that something as chaotic as a presidential assassination could happen basically on a whim, or through circumstance, when it has so, so often happened that way in history.

[@derekhiemforth]

Humans have an uncanny ability to recognize patterns, which plays right into wanting to find order in chaos. So even if the idea of an assassination being possible on a whim doesn't seem so scary to someone that they want to invent conspiracies to explain why it *_wasn't_* a whim, they're still likely to recognize the pattern of after-the-fact face-saving shenanigans that went on, which make it *_look_* like there was a conspiracy...

[@simonjames1604]

there were two other attempts on kennedys life during motorcades before dallas, sure doesnt seem like it was just a whim, seems like a concerted effort that finally came to fruition, unless you think that the two other plots that were thwarted were just also pure whim and coincidence, which you know is kinda of pushing the definition of those words beyond where they go.

[@wisdomleader85]

@@derekhiemforth We also shouldn't forget that most people don't have a reliable memory, which is why the Mandela effect exists, in which people confuse Nelson Mandela's story with the story of another South African activist, Steve Biko.

[@simonjames1604]

@@wisdomleader85 if people dont have reliable memories that applies to all witnesses, which means all witnesses are equally useless. i do not think that is remotely true.

[@jhb134]

Forget about it, esp. since TWO of John's wounds came from the front and/or right (shot near the Adam's apple, and the shot to the right temple). Let Lemmino find photos of the limousine, when it reached Parkland; there are photos (and testimony) about the bullet hole near the rear-view mirror. Etc.

[@Taskicore]

Lemmino's videos are top tier. I have probably watched his Jack the Ripper video 8 or 9 times since it came out.

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

As a lifelong student of the Ripper murders I believe Lemmino’s JtR is the best presentation I’ve ever seen on the subject.

[@edwardguest1404]

@@VloggingThroughHistoryhave you seen the new evidence and theory with Hyam Hyams that came out last year as the identity of the ripper?

[@YoungLiam74]

Yeah his Ripper video is my personal favorite of his. Its crazy how rewatchable his videos are, even his older stuff is done with such care and consideration even when he didn't have the budget to work with. I truly believe Lemmino is one of the best channels on the entire website.

[@kingrex1931]

The probably should be bought by and aired by the History channel.

[@Taskicore]

@@kingrex1931 I feel like they'd ruin it though. They'd have him play up the 'conspiratorial' aspects of everything.

[@zachloed4294]

Your reactions and teaching of history is one of the main reasons i want to be a history teacher so i can educate people on history like you do

[@zachloed4294]

Also your a great person and i love your content and stuff

[@bendikakre9800]

@@zachloed4294Me too! Currently studying to be a history teacher

[@dankmatter3068]

I applaud you, but be careful because many try to conceal or ignore history, which is dangerous. You don’t want to be a history teacher at a PC school where they don’t let you teach half the important topics because history is not PC lmao.

[@bendikakre9800]

@@dankmatter3068 That’s not as big of an issue in Norway as it is in the US. You guys got some issues to work out right now.

[@dankmatter3068]

@@bendikakre9800 I wasn't talking about Norway. However I always wanted to visit lol.

[@ericanderson8886]

The detail that Lemmino goes into is amazing. Great analysis as well.

[@buffalorick5598]

There is much more to this story. Let’s see if he dares tackle it

[@kelticowl9400]

Well I'm holding you responsible for this Rabbit Hole of Analysis of the Assassination, THANK YOU, it's extremely interesting to dive into something that wasn't really covered in our History classes

[@ShepardVI]

This is right up there with Jack the Ripper in terms of real life mysteries

[@DAWesome_]

​@@ShepardVII learned a galaxy's worth of info from Lemmino's vid on ol' Jack. Now the same is happening with this.

[@marquisdelafayette1929]

You should check out the whole secret service did it (accidentally) theory. Watched something that actually seemed plausible. SS was known under JFKs term for partying pretty hard. They apparently had been up almost all night before drinking and picking up women. Most were hungover while on duty. After the first shot which hit the street was fired, Hickey turns completely around and acquires Oswald on the sixth floor of the school book depository building. His turned head is documented in an AP photograph by James Altgens. Hickey reaches for the AR-15 under the seat, releases the safety and begins to lift the gun. The second shot is fired by Oswald, hitting the president and Texas Governor John Connally. The president's car and the follow-up car containing Hickey suddenly sped up. This is attested to by Secret Service agent Clint Hill. Hickey, who is unstable because he is standing on the cushion of the seat, rather than the floor of the car, begins to fall back due to the acceleration of the vehicle, pulling the trigger of the AR-15. The gun is pointed toward Kennedy at that instant, and the bullet strikes him squarely in the back of the head. In parallel, he believes Oswald's second shot through Kennedy's neck may have already critically wounded the president before the third shot was fired.

[@jeffbenton6183]

I think the main reason why it isn't taught in our History classes is lack of time. A year-long US History course always seems to end with World War II. I think that US high schools ought to spend 2 years on the subject.

[@kevinloveshistory7353]

I am absolutely with you on the JFK movie It is so frustrating how there are people out there who treat the movie as credible source of the assassination when it straight lies and misleads the audience about so many facts on the case

[@buffalorick5598]

Agree, the movie never should have been released. I still believe others were involved but not the way the movie portrays it.

[@joshuabowen6919]

I agree too. I watched Oliver Stone on Rogan and he still talks about his movie like it was a documentary. It's ridiculous

[@SimonBellaMondo]

This confirms what I suspected all along. An elderly black man with a bald spot fired the fatal shot. Oswald was the fall guy.

[@simonjames1604]

its hard to disagree with the 15 year old amos eunis whos own father once said "you cant believe anything that boy says"

[@xmanc5687]

😂😂😂

[@billkeon880]

The questioner of Euins didn’t go far enough. Him describing a spot on the top of his head is absurd, even to a teenager. He most likely meant ‘receding hair line’ but couldn’t get the words, so said bald spot. If you watch his post- New Orleans TV interview, he does look like that. His head looks a little misshapen actually.

[@billkeon880]

That’s another reason why law courts don’t rely on eyewitness reports anymore unless they are independently corroborated by multiple sources. Conspiracy theorists, like I was for 30 years, rely on eyewitness discrepancy and cherry picking isolated events without entire context to build their case. WR, HSCA and law enforcement rely on hard evidence primarily and conspiracy theorists rely on unreliable eyewitness, suspicions and cherry picking

[@simonjames1604]

@@billkeon880 his statements to police and the WR keep chaning the ehtnicity of the shooter he claims to see, how can he see a bald spot or receeding hair line and not know what colour the person was? he is all over the lake here.

[@Kringsat81]

Gavrilo Princip in a simlar way changed the course of history by assasinating Duke Franz Ferdinand. Admitted Princip didn't act entirely on his own, but the assasination can hardly be called a grand conspiracy involving governments or states.

[@simonjames1604]

he didnt act on his own at all , he was part of a group of conspirators who were all arrested later. the fact that he was definitely part of a conspiracy is kind of the opposite of the point you are making, the austrians DID feel that governments were behind this group so they had this little thing called WW1 to bring the guilty to pay, you may just have heard of this.

[@David-sl6xf]

I wouldn't be too sure about that, there is reason to believe the Serbian government may have been involved in that assassination. They definitely had connections with the Black Hand in the past, at the very least.

[@nickbell4984]

I don't know about that as the Serbian government had co-operated with the Black Hand gang in the past. Nonetheless, I can't blame Austria-Hungary for blaming Serbia for the assassination even if they had no connection to it.

[@leodesalis5915]

I would argue tho with the circumstances of Franz Ferdinands assassination he may as well have acted alone, yes the earlier attempt on his life that day was a group effort but it was only princip feeling sorry for himself, sitting alone at the restaurant that just so happened to be on the street that the car would take its fatal wrong turn.

[@simonjames1604]

@@leodesalis5915 you can argue that but it makes no sense, princip was part of an orchestrated effort who was by pure circumstance able to carry out the plot but that groups ties to the serbian government is not in question and this lead to the start of world war 1. you cant say "well the plot failed at first so then prinicip is no longer a plotter" he IS part of a plot and that plot ultimately succeeds. didnt go to plan sure but it worked out none the less. if princip wasnt part of the plot he wouldnt have been there in the first place so the plot is a key part of the days results.

[@ronryan3210]

I was firmly in the conspiracy camp before. I had some doubts, but thought the evidence pointed firmly to this being a big scheme, especially with the other assassinations that happened. But this amount of evidence and detail and the arguments presented have helped to change my perspective on everything. There was a lot of stuff here I just wasn't aware of. Brilliant video, amazing response to it, and I do believe my mind has been changed. Kudos to both of you. I enjoy having my perspective altered with the presentation of new evidence.

[@stevestevenson289]

Ya, why bobby? A Palestinian? Ya ok. Mossad

[@blockedblock5203]

What I love is that multiple times throughout these videos you said something along the lines of "You also have to take into account that X", or "Also while this was happening, X", and almost every time you said something like that, LEMMiNO's vid would touch upon that exact thing in detail not too long after, or at least at some point in the vid. Really shows how detailed and comprehensive the vid is.

[@gaylebaker8419]

Oswald is a practical demonstration of the narcissist's inability to plan beyond the achievement of his goal. He utterly failed to give any thought to getting away.

[@samwallaceart288]

Lee Oswald: "The girls need new shoes. . ." Robert Oswald (on the other side of the jail window): " . . . _'New shoes'?_ . . . How about THEY NEED A FATHER, did you think about that?"

[@ignacio9399]

I understand that narcissist is a popular buzzword these days but I don’t think we can make the assumption that it applies to Oswald. I don’t think he did much planning at all.

[@gaylebaker8419]

@@ignacio9399 Thank you for proving my points.

[@gaylebaker8419]

Jack Ruby got in there because he was a frequent visitor, being a police buff. Nobody suspected he would shoot anybody.

[@GoldudeMK]

Ive enjoyed throughout these videos that you have brought up information BEFORE Lemmino brings it up several times. Shows that you know your stuff, but i'm also glad that you havent stopped because of this, and just defaulting to believing to yourself that "oh he'll probably get to that later"

[@ChessJew]

Love the content! As an aside, you're correct about Oswald nearly killing another officer in the theater - he yelled "This is it!", struck an officer, pulled his revolver, and in the subsequent struggle for the gun Oswald fired and it was the skin of an officer's thumb that stopped the hammer from landing. Curious behaviour for an innocent man.

[@dj71162]

He had ties to the Soviet Union and the agencies in the US had been tracking him for months. This, as well as his ties to the mob and such figures as Ruby, means that he would be scared for his life if they (the conspirators) decided to come after him and pin it all on him as the patsy. It doesn't prove that he killed anyone. He could just have been scared for his life and acting in self defense. We don't know because conveniently the police never recorded his statements.

[@kerrylangman214]

Oswald was yelling that he was not resisting arrest in the theatre as police were restraining him.

[@ianbentley-rb7hs]

@@kerrylangman214 So waving a gun around and trying to squeeze the trigger isn't resisting arrest?

[@tommyv997]

​@kerrylangman214 People who are guilty ALWAYS say that. "What did I do?" Or "I didn't do nothing!" Times haven't changed at all.

[@simonjames1604]

if that happened, ask yourself a very very simple question, why was oswald not charged with assualting a police officer or attempted murder? and think long and hard before you answer. if it happened adding those charges would have helped convict oswald and yet no charges were laid, again why do you think that is?

[@tdkb3395]

So crazy how this exact video caused some stir about reaction content and how many don't insert any input to add to the video watching experience But these vids you put out are very insightful and opinion based that make the video both original and all your own Very well done

[@corey2232]

Oswald saying he didn't shoot anybody, yet shot a cop in front of a dozen people... No conspiracy theory really explains this well. Just saying he didn't shoot Tippit isn't really believable when so many people saw it, and he was caught less than a mile from the shooting with the gun. There just happens to be a cop shot & killed right near where the prime suspect of the presidential assassination is chilling watching a movie? The same suspect that should be at his place of work, yet he's found at a theater instead? I just don't see how he can claim to be a "patsy," when he did so many unusual things that don't make sense for him to do, especially when the rest of his office is currently swarmed with police investigating the assassination.

[@simonjames1604]

despite the way evidence is presented there is in fact only ONE solitary witness to the shooting of officer tippett who claims to have seen the shooting, and thats helen markham and her testimony isnt exactly rock solid either, other witnesses see two men on the scene, or a man who drives away from the murder after commiting it ( oswald didnt drive) and descriptions of the person fleeing the scene contrdict each other in terms of what oswald was or was not wearing and a jacket supposedly beloning to oswald that was found was obvioulsy not his. the tippett case also has lousy ballistics, the bullets arent a good match to oswalds gun, the fingerprints on the patrol car arent oswalds, and the time line is iffy as heck,. that case was even weaker than the jfk case. a decent lawyer had more than a fighting chance of winning it. despite the way some folks present the evidence,

[@bethann0808]

Hey Chris, you mentioned living through the 1960's... I have. Was a very tumultuous time. My older brother was in Vietnam and I remember the race riots later in the decade and Robert Kennedy and MLK being killed. I still remember watching this stuff on our small B&W TV. I've never bought into the conspiracy theories. Just a police department ill equipped to handle a Presidential assassination, and then trying to cover up their incompetence. We look back and shake our heads over how they could make so many mistakes, but you have to remember, this is the 60's and the south. Forensics have come a long way since then. We now have DNA evidence and all of the scientific stuff that they do today. Procedures have been created so that evidence can be taken to court. It wasn't even thought about back then. Thank you for bringing this to us.

[@michaelrumsey7932]

You mention a thing that a lot of people forget about, "and then trying to cover up their own incompetence." As far as the Dallas Police department goes, and even many of these FBI agents, if we remember that these are people who are handling this there become a lot of reasons why someone would act the ways they did, fear (both for themselves or their nation), greed, fame, becoming "a part of history," or just simply being unqualified. And even a little bit more accusatory, does anyone really believe a bunch of Texas cops are going to admit that they can't handle something or their own ignorance...

[@kluaoha731]

Can we all just appreciate how Chris adds so much of his own input to these reactions instead of just ripping off the videos for free content like so many Twitch streamers do?

[@dusty975]

I fully agree with the comments by Lemmino and by Vlogging Through History. This extremely detailed study of the school book building makes it very clear that Oswald was indeed the assassin.

[@simonjames1604]

how does a study of the buliding do that? nobody saw oswald on the 6th floor of the time of the shooting, nobody saw him operate the rifle at the time of the shooting, nobody saw him with a rifle in the TSBD that day, and the person who saw him arrive at work said emphatically his hands were empty when he walked in. so how do you take that info and say it was clear oswald was guilty? becuse he was at work that day?

[@Helix7rance]

@@simonjames1604 I think you missed that part about the person that saw him enter with empty hands. He said his observation of Oswald entering without anything was "At a glance". Besides this he testified to the shooting happening before 12. His story was just not consistent. You've left a lot of comments being sure about Oswald not being the shooter and that's fine. But you're really misrepresenting a lot of the facts here.

[@simonjames1604]

@@Helix7rance heres the thing i am someone who has actually read his WRC testimony i have read the entire WRC not that i recommend it its incredibly dull with less pertinent info than you care to slog through, anyways they ask him REPEATEDLY how well he saw his oswald and he gets more defenitive with each answer, he saw him clearly and has no doubt that oswald had nothing . now thats strong evidence on that point, but the rest of his recall isnt so good, and i dont disagree with that, but welsey beull frazier stated that he saw the dallas police bring a 303 einfield rifle out of the TSBD while he was being arrrested, does that make him a bad witness? he also states in his book that he doesnt think oswald was involved in the least so is h now a bad witness? its not misrepresenting what dougherty said to repeat it, its his unshakeable claim that he saw oswald and he clearly had nothing in his hands. that was his testimony to the WR and the only testimony he gave that had any value to the series of events, when he ate lunch , where he ate lunch and how he recalled the events surrodning his lunch add NOTHING to our understanding of what happened that day, so really its you misrepresenting the evidence. you can dismiss witnesses as you like but a witness making a miskate on any point means they are wrong about everything? we would have no witnesses left at all if you apply that standard to this case.

[@Helix7rance]

@@simonjames1604 I'm simply saying that a witness that contradicts his story with facts or contradicts himself is simply not a credible witness. That's not misrepresenting evidence, that's just a fact. A witness that's not accurate with facts is unreliable and can therefor hardly be taken seriously in a court setting. You're overreacting quite a bit and misinterpreting what i said. Making a mistake in your testimony does not mean any and all witness are instantly less credible, but making a testimony that conflicts with stated facts, like the timing of the shooting does not make your witness more credible is all. Building a case, and validating evidence means crossreferencing and connecting dots. If a witness testifies something that lines up with known facts like the time makes his testimony more credible than stating something "Might have happened" or that you saw something "At a glance". Not saying this applies to any particular witness in this story, but it simply is how it is.

[@Helix7rance]

I get the skepticism, the case was handled quite sloppily, witnesses were contradictory all around, and the mystery surrounding it makes for a compelling and interesting story. I dont really have a horse in this race either way, though im leaning towards it being a crime of opportunity, but i just wanted to point out the witness credibility thing.

[@stuarthumphrey1787]

Absolutely fascinating. Nice to actually have a well presented breakdown of testimonies, timeline, and the pros and cons of evidence . I always sat on the fence if Oswald was a lone gunman etc. But you having talked sensibly on the given evidence, and actually being impartial, I am now firmly in the camp of he was the killer, probably a last minute plan, and acted alone. Thank you for a wonderful breakdown of events

[@simonjames1604]

it wasnt impartial, he thought oswald acted alone and presented that evidence from the start. and it was less than compelling to those of us who know what was left out or glossed over.

[@rookcapcoldblood2618]

​@@simonjames1604 Buddy. I've seen you all over these videos. Almost all of the evidence you discredit is rather substantial, and you have to willfully choose to ignore it in order to make the ridiculous claim that Oswald was not the shooter. You have even worse bias against Oswald than we do for him, and it shows in every comment you make.

[@simonjames1604]

@@rookcapcoldblood2618 i would like examples of that thanks! i dont know if oswald did it or not, my interest in this case is always what a lousy case the dallas police had and how next to impossible to get a conviction it was going to be if oswald had a lawyer who could muster any kind of defense, i dont offer up any conspiracy theories , nor claim to have any inside info on who else may or may not have been involved, my sources are almost always fbi 301s, police statements, witness statements, their latter day interviews and books and of course the WRC itself. i am not peddling any alternative history, just showing the obvious holes in the official case, if you care to address any mistakes you think i have made i am willing to discuss them but you wont find any conspiracy theories here, sorry to disappoint you.

[@rookcapcoldblood2618]

@simonjames1604 I've seen you in multiple places question whether or not Oswald was the shooter and whether or not he worked alone, even in other comments on this video. I think we can all agree that the case was handled with incredible sloppiness, but the fact that the president was assassinated by a lone political radical is beyond dispute. Edit: Forgot the VERY IMPORTANT POINT that I understand that you're hesitant to believe the official story due to how roughly the whole affair went, but I cannot see your opinion as completely rational.

[@chickenfist1554]

@@rookcapcoldblood2618 _"but the fact that the president was assassinated by a lone political radical is beyond dispute."_ It's not a fact whatsoever and it isn't beyond dispute. A lot of the, lets say 'official' accounts don't add up to scrutiny or even common sense in some instances, and some are just downright farcical. That's why you have people questioning it. But as usually if the standard explanation is questioned in any way people get labeled conspiracy theorists and are met with hostility.

[@amankharb2401]

I had already watched it on the original channel but came here to hear your take on it. Love the discussions on your channel. Really appreciate your work.

[@NoemieC413]

I'm a closing manager at the store where I work, and after a long day, it's been so nice to see your latest Lemmino reactions pop up and to listen to them on my drive home.

[@kathrynblue2702]

! I'm the manager at my store and also listened to it on the way home after a long day. Coincidence? I think not! lol

[@NoemieC413]

@@kathrynblue2702 I love the way he presents his reactions, they can very easily be listened to like a podcast. Perfect for the commute

[@dionysues7449]

A lot of "reaction channels" have been getting flak for reacting to content, such as this video, with little to no input. However, I believe this is the perfect example of adding meaningful content to the original content in an educational and informative way. Thank you for your great content as always

[@elifaletgutierrez9141]

I had no idea a police officer was shot, completely new information to me. I've never bothered to look into the events of the JFK assassination, and it's understandable that the police killing is so overshadowed, but still was surprised to find this out.

[@buffalorick5598]

Yes, Tippet shot dead. But I believe more than Oswald were shooting

[@1Bolzard1]

As a lawyer, it isn’t just believable that the testimonies don’t add up nicely, its commonplace. Witnesses often change their story, slightly or greatly, or they state something they cannot possibly know as a certainty, or they recant on testimony they have given, even try to justify their own shaky statements with nonsensical arguments as to why what they are saying must be true. In truth, the only time I have ever seen a large number of witness testimonies add up “nicely”, all telling nearly the same stories, was a case that involved a corporate coverup.

[@jasonh1662]

I wish they brought up more of the fact that Oswald went through marine training and qualified as a sharpshooter.

[@simonjames1604]

his last test in the marines he scored a 191 , the passing mark was 190. he was not a good shot, which is why he was a radio operator and not you know a rifleman.

[@jasonh1662]

​@@simonjames1604 Still a marksman. What is your point?

[@simonjames1604]

@@jasonh1662 thats the LOWEST rank you can get without failing , so he was a poor shot. not a good shot, he wasnt a radio man because he was a good shot, and he never practiced with his carcano, and the thing sat rolled up in a carpet for nobody knows how long, bad weapon, bad ammo, bad scope, bad shooter, making incredibly difficult shots? you have to at least understand how the odds are so much against this being pulled off easily by a less than solid gunman, i am a medium shot and a clunky carcano is a terrible shoulder weapon, i have no doubt i couldnt replicate that shooting on my best day. with a better weapon like an einfield 303, its easy, but folks dont want to discuss what a hunk of junk a carcano is because , well mostly becuase of bias.

[@jasonh1662]

@@simonjames1604 The chances of of winning the lottery is 1 in 292 million. Using your logic, nobody in the history of man has won the lottery.

[@YpipY]

@@simonjames1604 I mean this is just not true. He was a US army trained marksman. He might not have been a crack shot, but he was a way better shot than most. Shoting at a target 50 to 100 meters away. Not that difficult of a shot with a scoped rifle. Nor was that outside of effective range of a carcano. The fact that he used a carcano makes sense, since it was a cheap rifle. Would not the conspirators have given him a better rifle?

[@Ki11ersix]

Great work on these videos. Glad I found your channel. Looking forward to what you cover next

[@lucask4377]

This a really good breakdown! You explain yourself really well in a easy to understand and educational way. Well done.

[@Camwhite_guy]

Well the timing on you releasing this was convenient, literally just finished watching the first 3 parts. Great stuff!

[@dzniel]

same

[@professorgummy]

Same

[@ZakiJeppe]

So in my job, I am trained to look at the behavior of children to analyse them. One of the things, we are taught is that you should be careful start off with a conclusion, cause you will observe things that fit that conclusion. I believe that is what has happened with this case. People are seeing evidence that fit their conspiracy, but these evidence doesn't really hold up. I am danish. I have no relations to this event. So I went into this with an open mind. Maybe there was a conspiracy, maybe there wasn't. After watching the whole thing it seems pretty clear to me that Oswald was the shooter and he acted alone.

[@simonjames1604]

because thats the position of the video, there are equally compelling works you can watch that will have you convinced that it was a massive cluster mess that is impossible to tell what happened. there was never a court case, oswald was never found guilty and the head detective on the dallas police admitted in 1969 that the case against oswald was purely circumstantial and nowhere near a slam dunk, thinking it and proving it are two different things, and there is no "proof" in this video just conjecture.

[@aaska1321]

Confirmation bias

[@simonjames1604]

@@aaska1321 well you can work that both ways, this video has a lone nut bias, and something like destiny betrayed has a conspiracy bias, dont know if either bias is better than the other, neither are all that supported by the facts. the facts in this case only take us so far mostly due to poor police work and the handiwork of jack ruby

[@crashingatom6755]

What about the "magic bullet," that tied the gun to the shooting? A clean round that pierced two people multiple times, yet sustained no fragmentation. And the fact that the shot cannot be replicated by any of the best shooters ever, let alone a mediocre shot?

[@IkLms11]

​@@crashingatom6755the shot has been replicated multiple times dude.

[@jilldesruisseau]

What a fantastic set of episodes! I binged this all in the last few days. The detail and organization of the information is astounding here.

[@CuriosityCult24]

Thank you for reinvigorating the interest in the subject that is history for me and many alike. 💪 Your content is greatly appreciated

[@Ceciestunpseudonyme]

I just learned Lemmino composes his own music as well. He's incredibly talented.

[@pjhoody]

Another classic from Lemmino and great commentary from VTH as always. A dynamic duo we didn’t know we needed.

[@petrri323]

I'm actually very glad that Lemmino did not give the Zapruder film more credence than any other piece of evidence. It was mentioned once in passing. I think over the years the Zapruder film has been heavily romanticized as some "missing link" in the evidence. Even VTH mentions Zapruder on multiple occasions, even though he is almost completely excluded from the video. When in reality Zapruder's tape is just a different perspective that really doesn't prove anything other than what we already know about the assassination. We can tell where and when Kennedy was shot and not much more. The Zapruder film can be an almost blinding piece of evidence because it is the best/only video we have of the assassination from that perspective. But that does not imply that it is therefore more compelling as evidence than anything else. This was my first time ever learning about the assassination without hearing about the Zapruder film ad nauseum, and it really changed my perspective on the event as a whole.

[@ebert311]

If he did talk about it at length, it would take away from the TBSR angle he was just covering in this doc. If he were to do one for Dealey Plaza, then he would have included it. The video is important because it gives us time, results, a bit of sound, and it establishes a baseline. With no video, we can't pretend to know how JFK's murder would be described in history. A man in a building shot JFK with a repeating rifle 6 times. A man in a building with a revolver shot JFK 2 times. The story could be colored in inaccurate ways.

[@kampclimax2966]

Cant believe your lyin'' eyes, head goes back and to the left. The motorcycle cop to the left to Jackie was so showered with debris that he had to stop to clean his visor and windshield. No, the fatal shot came from the front and to the right. Zapruder's film had to be hidden from the American public for over the decade because it would have caused public unrest because it proves the Warren Commission absolutely wrong.

[@simonjames1604]

zapruder also testified that the shots were coming from behind him from the grassy knoll, sometimes a witness is only as good as your perceptioin of him, so it is with the film, people see lots of things in the film , some see the proof positive that kennedy was shot from the front.

[@Ben_not_10]

Really the Zapruder film is just a gruesome showing of how kennedy died and adds nothing to anything other than enabling tv producers to show a man’s head exploding without having to use an r rating.

[@simonjames1604]

@@Ben_not_10 i think it shows much more than that, and establishes somewhat of a time line, who was where at the shooting etc. its the best evidence of what actually happened in the motorcade, far superior to the contradictory statement made by people about what they saw, better than the contradictory statements some people made about what was in the film itself...

[@65TossTrap]

Thank you for this thorough examination. It will go a long way in settling the “conspiracy” question. I also encourage people to read Posner’s book “Case Closed”. To fully understand this assassination, one needs to know the background of Lee Oswald, including the psychiatric report issued by the a psychiatrist c1946 regarding Lee’s psychotic episodes as an eleven year old student. On a personal note, I had the opportunity to speak with Ike Pappas in 1978 regarding his experience in Dallas, at the height of the conspiracy mania. He was next to Jack Ruby when Ruby pushed him aside and killed Oswald. Pappas said that highly doubted that Ruby could be part of any conspiracy. To all our viewers, it is noteworthy to compare this assassination to that of John Lennon. In both cases, the targets let their guard down and ventured into the public without proper protection. Kennedy should have used the bubble top. Lennon should have had a body guard. Nut cases will always find a way in, unless there is proper protection. Case closed.

[@itzmoney2369]

My favorite reaction series you’ve done in a while ❤❤

[@heli0ns]

Lemmino is an absolute legend for making learning history so engaging and easy to understand. I'm very glad you took the time to add your own insight to many of the points he makes, since that further increases ones perspective on what transpired. Really solid viewing on both accounts!

[@doylesgirl73]

I used to go back and forth on if I thought there was a conspiracy or not. I'm becoming more and more convinced that Oswald was the only shooter. And Lemmino put together a very good analysis of what happened in the Book Depository that day. Once again, you have helped expand my knowledge of a topic I have always been curious about.

[@michaelrumsey7932]

To me the nail on the coffin for it being a crime of opportunity (for me) was the facts surrounding the motorcade route, it was DECIDED only a couple weeks before the assassination, I feel like any conspiracy where almost 0 serious official investigation has had any movement in 40 years would need more planning than that

[@simonjames1604]

@@michaelrumsey7932 two other attempts on jfks life were made in two different cities during two differnt motorcades. kind of sounds like some planning was going on somewhere or do you believe that 3 attempts is just a coincidence?

[@jerryduffin1358]

@simonjames1604 yes total coincidence. Each president (especially one during a time like the early 60’s) has had hundreds of attempts made on their life. Only very few of them ever come to light because the vast majority are stopped

[@gaylebaker8419]

Oswald pulled the trigger, but the officer trying to grab the gun had fortuitously jammed the "web" between his thumb and forefinger between the hammer and the round.

[@simonjames1604]

why was he not charged with attempted murder of a police officer if thats a true story?

[@gaylebaker8419]

@simonjames1604 He was charged with the murder of Tippett, followed by a charge for murdering Kennedy. As for MacDonald, Oswald was surrounded by police officers-hands on-who were trying to grab the gun he pulled from his pocket. This was testimony taken under oath. Had Ruby not killed him, Oswald probably would have faced more charges.

[@simonjames1604]

@@gaylebaker8419 he was in police custody for THIRTY SIX hours AFTER being charged with the two murders. what do you think they were waiting for to file charges? his birthday? you havent thought this through, but try it, ask yourself why would the police concoct a story that seemed to present them with an open and shut case of attempted murder and assualt and then NOT file those charges. timing isnt the issues, so what do you think it might be? that probably starts to look a bit weird now doesnt it? okhams razor would suggest no charges cause the cops were lying . they beat oswald up and needed to provide a reason for doing so. cause you know, cops do get over zealous at times.

[@gaylebaker8419]

@simonjames1604 Fine, buddy. Have it any way you like.

[@simonjames1604]

@@gaylebaker8419 its not how i like it, its how it happened, but hey if you dont want to think thats cool too i guess.

[@dylanharris5719]

Hi Chris! I’m a history teacher from Indiana and I love your stuff and have learned a bunch! Keep up the good work

[@fangb1342]

Ive been so excited! I love your channel VTH, this is gonna be great as always!!

[@TheMinervaForum]

Fantastic commentary, VTH is one of my favorite channels!

[@ShepardVI]

This series has been really good. I used to think Oswald was helped, but I spent more time learning about this and am sure that he acted alone. It’s Jack Ruby who I question more than Oswald

[@simonjames1604]

if ruby is part of a cover up, then it follows that oswald is what they are trying to cover up, you cant have one with the other. and thats why conspiracies can flourish, sure seems like they were trying to shut oswald up before any trial could happen.

[@valritz1489]

@@simonjames1604 Not sure one way or the other here, but I could conceivably see wanting to make sure Oswald was dead to keep a trial from happening. A trial would drag out every failure of the intelligence community, national security, etc. In a world where showing weakness to The Enemy is the worst thing you could possibly do, I could see someone trying to close as many windows on this case as possible.

[@simonjames1604]

@@valritz1489 i still struggle with why the fbi cia and secret service treated each other as enemies back then,. i am guessing funding played a part? but man oh man did they work against each other in this case big time,

[@valritz1489]

@@simonjames1604 Funding, and using what's in their pants instead of in their heads. Access to powerful people is power. If you're the head of the CIA, and the President is taking his advice from the FBI, he's not taking it from you. And someone who's enough of a climber to get made head of the CIA isn't gonna like that

[@ShepardVI]

@@simonjames1604 it’s def just speculation. Obviously I have a hard time believing that Oswald planned this with anybody. All I’m saying is this. He was a known communist and the Police/FBI knew this. I can’t prove this at all, but I think this was something to do with Mafia. Jack Ruby could easily had been instructed to kill Oswald. And maybe the motive is that they wanted to kill the presidents killer. Who knows but Jack Ruby is such a mysterious figure and it sucks that they couldn’t keep him alive to question him more

[@torresmat10]

The conclusion has arrived! So excited

[@RK-ln6kg]

Thank you so much about this. This brings alot more explanations than before. Appreciate the content.

[@Kasamira]

I love this series you’re doing so much!

[@rybock]

Side note... I lived in Dallas for a few years. Obviously there is the Texas Book Depository, and there is an "x" on the street where the limo was when Kennedy was shot... But I love history, and I poured throught the Warren Commision report, picked out details to make my own tour.... I spent a day off going to see the house Oswald picked up the rifle that morning, the corner where Tippet was shot and where the rifle/pamplet pic was take, to the location of the movie theater where he was arrested, and where the garage he was shot in was... Seriously, look up what happened around you, you can go check these spots out and think on the history that happened there, even if there isn't a brass plaque to mark it.

[@faeembrugh]

The British DJ John Peel said he simply told a policeman he was a journalist and was allowed into the crowded press conference where Oswald answered various questions with many people mere feet away from him. Peel was not present on the day when the Ruby shooting took place but the fact that he had earlier simply told a policeman he was a journalist and this was accepted without question suggests security in the police HQ was very lax indeed.

[@dab.]

Interesting, didn't know that. Amusing to read Peel's account too.

[@KYTChris]

Good job as usual. This was a great documentary by Lemmino as well.

[@ElDragow]

I love you level headed takes on so many historical events. It would be so easy to be a grifter and pretend you believe a conpsiracy happened. So the fact you hold onto your true self and look at everthing with as much objectivity as possible is really admirable.

[@nicksivds]

The one thing that struck me the most when I visited Dealey Plaza was just how small of an area it was. I’ve maybe fired a rifle a total of 50 times in my life and I’m confident I could get darn close or make those shots with a scope. You do not have to be a sniper to make those shots and Oswald’s military records proved he was a good shot. 265 feet is 95 feet less than a football field. That is not some remarkable feat.

[@MikeCobweb]

@@simonjames1604True. I enjoyed the video and the reaction, but the reality is that this whole thing is a conspiracy, and a well planned out one too. The chaos and the human nature are enough of a factors to be great cover ups as established in the video with how people were dumbfounded due to the chaos. And also one has to return the question back to Lemmino, when he asked which sort of conspirators would let their work get filmed. My response was “Why wouldn’t they let it get filmed?” because if it didn’t get filmed then it would definitely cause a majority to say it was (and is) a conspiracy.

[@simonjames1604]

@@MikeCobweb why would they care if their work got filmed? they were trying to kill the president from secluded spots where they could not be seen. people filmed JFK and his limo nobody filmed the 6th floor of the TSBD or the picket fence on the grassy knoll, why would they? his point operates from a very flawed place, that those FILMING jfk would know he was about to be shot , of course they didnt know that. lemmino assumes oswald is guilty and works backwards like the warren report, its a waste of time that will impress folks who dont want to do the long hard work themselves.

[@bodystomp5302]

@@simonjames1604in your opinion, how difficult of a shot would this be if using a modern sniper rifle?

[@simonjames1604]

@@bodystomp5302 if you had experience with it and had the rifle in good condition? not difficult, the number of people in the limo might be an issue but a modern rifle would load quicker and aim truer than an older weapon , 4 shots in 8 seconds would be easy for example. and most modern sniper rifles are fine tuned instruments that are automatic loading. its really not a comparison . the technology has moved forward massively.

[@DoughBoi42]

I've been a fan for a long time sir! Definitely the teacher i wish i had. Greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭

[@richardvye9958]

Two weeks late, but finally got caught up with your break down after watching it myself. Thank you for introducing me to Lemino, very great content.

[@warhammerHighElf]

I just finished the first three, and I checked your channel...uploaded 19 min ago! Thankfully I didnt have to wait at all for the fourth part :)

[@movieman175]

I've read multiple stories of Oswald pulling his gun in the theater but it for whatever reason jammed or didn't fire and then the officer punched him in the face. Also him saying before he jumped up "well this is it. it's all over now."

[@simonjames1604]

and yet he isnt charged with attempted murder of a dallas police officer or assualt.

[@connorcook5260]

If we’re going to be selective of witness testimony and written statements of events I’m certainly not giving any credence to officers accounts of what a suspect said in the moments they arrested someone they believed just killed one of their own

[@usseg]

One person. One decision. One moment can change the course of history.

[@simonjames1604]

amd a small group of conspirators can accomplish the same thing.

[@buffalorick5598]

Far more to the story

[@bertmustin]

This was probably the best video you analyzed on this channel.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Your vidoes and content are out of this world! Thanks flr educating us man!😊😊😊😊😊

[@cervanntes]

Great series and commentary! I mostly agree with Chris on everything - Oswald was definitely guilty and most likely a lone gunman but….I can believe that he may have been influenced to some degree by others. I am working on a history series of my own that begins with one of our country’s oldest conspiracy theories and it’s a textbook example of how witness testimony can be all over the place as well as change over time. In this case, there are three major and very different versions of what happened…and they all come from the single person that is the closest thing to a witness we have. It’s easy to see how conspiracy theories can form in situations like this, especially when famous people are involved.

[@allycat0136]

I took a college history course last semester. It was a modern history class, covering 1877-2010. I am a huge history buff, and one of the things I have always been interested in is presidential assassinations. So when we started getting closer to the Kennedy Assassination, I got pretty excited because I was ready to have a good discussion about it. We spent, maybe TEN MINUTES covering it in class. Ten minutes covering the whole thing, assassination, media coverage, Johnson, Oswald, all of it. Only ten minutes! It was almost criminal!

[@simonjames1604]

lbj would have been happy you only took ten minutes, any longer and he would have been sweating in his grave.

[@paulnejtek6588]

@@simonjames1604 silly comment. No proof. Just keyboard fart

[@Zay13378]

Loved this series . Thank you

[@jdashy23]

Love these insights!

[@Shnipe1]

It’s great that you remind people about how unreliable eye witness testimonies are. Particularly when taken long after an event and where stress is involved. It’s well worth looking briefly into Elizabeth Loftus’ work on false memories and eye witnesses. Her work was revolutionary in the field of mental faculties and memory.

[@simonjames1604]

thats where the lone nut arguments fall apart , givens and brennan and markham all admitted to feeling tremendous stress that effected their testimony, marinas statements used in this video are all LATER than her fbi/secret service statements ( multiple 301s etc) that contradict her earlier statements, wesley beull fraziers statements were taken while he was under arrest as a conspirator in the jfk killing. some things read differently when you realize how some statements were achieved and when.

[@GodlessScummer]

Excellent series of reactions to this video. I must confess that I used to wholeheartedly believe that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy but in recent years I've come to the conclusion that the official story that Oswald acted alone is the most likely. Although I'll always have a soft spot for the theory put forward by the British Sci Fi sitcom Red Dwarf. The idea being that JFK was the second gunman on the grassy knoll and shot himself. 😂 Obviously Red Dwarf did this as a joke but when it comes to conspiracy theories I've heard a few genuine ones that are just as far out there as that.

[@zwhazey]

Can I just say, first this video, is epic from LEMMiNO, but also you see some of his personality peers through towards the end, with the little jokes and just makes him seem like a very likable guy. Love this video

[@Ben_not_10]

I just rewatched the original video with my family and here’s the conclusion we came to: “Oswald most likely did it. However, the Dallas Police Department, the Secret Service, AND the FBI, did very shoddy work. Leading questions, mishandling evidence, the lack of audio or video recordings for Oswald’s interrogation, lack of security for Oswald’s transfer (like WHY WOULD YOU TELL THE ENTIRE WORLD WHEN AND WHERE YOURE MOVING AMERICAS MOST HATED MAN), I could go on. Every example of “conspiracy” arises from the way in which the investigation was poorly handled. I get it, the country was in shock and questions needed to be answered, but the desperation and determination to find answers quickly led to too many mistakes being made. It’s scary how similarly handled the Kennedy Assasination and the Nicole Brown Murder were handled. Also if you really look at it, over the course of 100 years it took four presidents being killed by crazed individuals as targets of opportunity before the Secret Service took the necessary precautions to make the President harder to kill by a lucky gunman.

[@michaelrumsey7932]

The government doing very sloppy work also is what probably leads to the conspiracies. We would like to believe everyone handled this with the utmost investigative work (and as individuals I'm sure MOST did) but that wasn't really the case. Dallas Police didn't have a voice recorder for the Oswald investigation and didn't seem to try and find alternative solutions and the FBI was NOTORIOUS for asking leading questions at that time. Add that and whatever else was going on all up and you have a system that honestly Oswald almost escaped (at least for a longer period of time). You made a great point at the end about the Secret Service needing so long to up their game, and that's almost exactly what I mean, things were very, very different back then

[@danielbishop1863]

The Secret Service was originally established in 1865 in order to crack down on counterfeit currency. It took THREE assassinations (Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley) before Congress finally decided to give them the responsibility for protecting the President.

[@alrifr5786]

I wish I could just blow off the driver of JFKs limo slowing down and coming to a near stop during the seven seconds of bullets reigning down on the president as sloppy work, but that is fundamentally suggesting that the SS agent lost his ability to walk. It is so basic, that it is not thst easily explained away.

[@chrisdonnelly8807]

Incredible reaction to an incredible video! One thing I do have a theory on was why he would say he was in the lunch room with those 2 black gentlemen because he was probably throwing his shot in the dark that being the early 1960s in the south that they would falsely corroborate that out of fear or police would not trust them in their denial of seeing him or a really long shot, could turn some of the attention to one or both of them, we’ll never know unfortunately.

[@simonjames1604]

why would anyone falsely corroborate the story? in two seperate interviews , one with captain fritz and one with fbi agent hosty oswald states he is at the lunch room at 12 so that doesnt provide an alibi since we know jfk wasnt shot at 12. he then claims he leaves the lunch room later and gets a coke where he sees truly and baker quite some time later which leaves about 30 minutes not accounted for. if oswald is attempting to alibi rather than just saying where he was he is doing a bad job of it since even if he WAS in the room at 12 that doesnt preclude him from being on the 6th floor 20 minutes later to take up position, but this is how you read testimony IF you have already assumed oswalds guilt and are working backwards,. if you dont do that it just reads like a guy trying to tell you where he was and who else was there.

[@chrisdonnelly8807]

@@simonjames1604 very well said yeah and I think your last part is the most incredible part about this and Chris mentions that multiple times that depending on your preconceived thoughts of what really happened (we will never know 100% for sure) you will watch the same documentary and have a different reasoning for why everything happened the way it did. Personally I think this was a situation of everything falling into Oswald’s lap but it can easily be seen as how could this all be a coincidence? He was probably in shock that something he barely planned actually worked out and he never really planned an alibi. Such a shame that we never got more out of Oswald before his death.

[@simonjames1604]

@@chrisdonnelly8807 and i have to always state my position which is , i dont know, and it seems that a lot of folks dont want to admit that this case was kind of weak and drawing a conclusive opinion one way or another really does come down to bias. and i think a trial would have answered a lot of questions, hell oswald could have even confessed at one point , but jack ruby and the awful DPD job put an end to learning more about the case imo. i am always willing to be convinced oswald acted alone but i need better evidence than has been presented.

[@KeithWilliamMacHendry]

Just brilliant!

[@KeganStucki]

Man, I've recorded songs with my one of my long running bands, and through performances, have completely, unintentionally, changed the message, and didn't realize until I found some of those old recordings. I completely understand what you were saying on that topic, and I'm pretty sure this is occurring with some of these eye witnesses. They've told that story alot!

[@COwens]

5:24 For those of you who find the lack of a tape recorder suspicious, be aware of the following: - detailed written reports were filed by each of Oswald's interrogators that weekend; many of these were collected as Appendix XI of the Warren Report. - tape recordings would have been inadmissible in court. Oswald did not have a lawyer present and, even though the Miranda decision was a few years away, Texas law had a similar rule on the books.

[@simonjames1604]

problem with that is the reports are filed AFTER the event , there is no stenographer keeping track of oswalds EXACT words so cpt Fritz et al who filed reports were working on their memory of what oswald had said which is less than a perfect system, and Fritz for one stated he was getting almost nothing from Oswald and went on the record saying he was one of the toughest suspects he ever dealt with. so in a case thats so important the attitude of DPD towards oswald are all kinds of lax, no charges in the theater episode , no charges regaeding the shooting of connely, no transcripts of oswals interviews taken at the time...its almost like they knew that after sunday it would be a non issue when you look at the big picture.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@simonjames1604 It was not common to record suspects back in 1963. However, there are 2-1/2 half pages of DPD Captain Fritz’s contemporaneous handwritten notes at the National Archives. They’re obviously scribbled and sparse for twelve hours of interrogation, but they do set forth when each of the four interrogations of Oswald began, and when they ended. Though Fritz’s notes were sketchy, he was noted for his memory, and said that “several days later” he wrote more extensive notes of the interrogations (4 H 209) Detailed written reports were filed by each of Oswald's interrogators that weekend; many of these were collected as Appendix XI of the Warren Report, where they occupy some forty pages. .

[@simonjames1604]

@@stddisclaimer8020 who said rough non specific notes by fritz didnt exist? they still did not contain records of a single thing either man said they are just fritzs shorthand as to what areas he covered and what answer he got taken down in his own almost unreadable shorthand. so not sure what value any of that has? fritz put almost no value on it admitting he got nowhere interviewing oswald, and telling the dallas morning news as late as 1969 that the case against oswald was virtually non existant.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@simonjames1604 As you've unwittingly revealed, the extent to which Captain Fritz's notes are of "no value," are a result not of his poor memory or methodology, but of Oswald's stony lack of cooperation in the aftermath of his killing of the President. Again, detailed written reports were filed by each of Oswald's interrogators that weekend; many of these were collected as Appendix XI of the Warren Report, where they occupy some forty pages. .

[@simonjames1604]

@@stddisclaimer8020 whats unwitting about it? i have read the WR i know whats in it pal you dont. the "notes" are written in incomplete disorganized sentences , that are not written even in a linear method. they are of no value because they contain no direct quotes from oswald or even what the questions fritz asked. fritz DID try to make more detailed reports AFTER oswald died but those have even less value than the original scribbles, not sure why you are trying to place more value on these things than they hold, which is not much, they are not "evidence" of anything nor are they detailed to the timing of the interviews, the length of the interviews, the questions directly asked, the direct answers. there is no "there" there and your attempt to suggest this some kind of "gotcha" is typical of your weak arguing style,. 40 pages of low value notes is not impressive, nor would 50 pages of the same content be more impresive, your inability to bring any critical thinking to this matter makes these exchanges almost entirely meaningless, you misrepresent my position then misrepresent the nature of the "in " interview notes and the value of the post assinated oswald notes.

[@robertadams998]

How in the hell did the Dallas police department not have a tape recorder? If nothing else have someone run to the closest department store and pick one up.

[@christianwhalen9263]

Lemmino has gone through such a character ark, honestly. He started as a Top 10 channel, and it was only really three or four years ago that he got into making documentaries about long-standing mysteries, and he’s really knocking it out of the park

[@Ezz0Clan]

God I love Lemmino, but I do have to add that your commentary towards this is honestly refreshing as well, after all this is subject... As most murders of high class, under scrutiny and public conspiracy, nice to have break down from the point of view of someone who's also capable of applying common sense, which is so woefully underrated these days.

[@toddhemphill1030]

The one fresh take-away I got from this series is that 98% of the ear-witnesses said that all of the shots they heard came from one location. They only differed on which location which is understandable given the echos in the plaza. So, unless we dismiss 98% of the witnesses, we can say with some certainty that the shots all came from one location. And we KNOW that at least one shot, the shot that hit Connally, came from above and behind. Does it not follow then that ALL of the shots came from above and behind?

[@michaelrumsey7932]

Yes, but I don't think it's as damning as that seems. I don't remember much about the shot that hit Connally but I think the angle isolated it much more than above and behind, could have been another window or even building. I don't think it was and it definitely was Oswald, I just don't think thats the slam dunk it seems like. Definitely something to add to the pile of evidence tho.

[@alrifr5786]

The shot were heard from one direction because all the shots were synchronized by walkie talkies and umbrella man. People tended to hear the shots closest to them. The people in front of the picket fense heard the shots from behind the picket fense. About 20 of them also saw gunsmoke from where they heard the shots from. Must be from the echo, right? There was also a bunch of footprints there behind the fense where the shooter was, probably from all those echos.

[@alrifr5786]

Besides every witness who recalls heard three shots, minus one SS agent, heat a shot pattern of bang, long pause, and then bang, bang in rapid succession. Impossible from a single bolt action weapon. There were multiple shooters.

[@8mycake244]

If Nixon couldn’t hide Watergate, how are these things “hidden”?

[@simonjames1604]

because nobody investigated it. they did with nixon

[@stddisclaimer8020]

They're not "hidden," they never existed.

[@simonjames1604]

@@stddisclaimer8020 you have no clue if thats true or not, there is certainly a ton of information that has come to light in the past 40 years that was "unknown" to the warren report, and i am willing to bet still unknown to you, there is a small industry built around the jfk killing as you are well aware and it is the very fact that some shady nonsense "does" exist and some of it has lest verifiable proof. your single sentence nonsense notwithstanding.

[@dougseip5853]

Loved these videos and loved the original video too. I’d say LHO changed the US security apparatus more than any one single person ever in American history. Great looks.

[@mauiswift6391]

Brilliant teasing out the eye witnesses.

[@pusillanimous1]

I liked your comment on how people cannot bring themselves to believe that such a dramatic event could have been caused by one man acting on a whim. The public seems fine believing that John Hinckley was some lone crazy person who shot Reagan. There isn’t the same kind of conspiratorial culture around the Reagan assassination attempt because, well, the assassination failed and Hinckley was taken into custody.

[@simonjames1604]

there were folks who thought mk ultra or the cia brainwashed hinkley, but because reagan survived nobody cared much .

[@cowsaysmoo51]

I think any conspiracy hypothesis would have to involve some person or group convincing Oswald to do it on short notice. But it seems most likely this was indeed a simple crime of opportunity. Once he found the motorcade route, he would have thought "hmmm, i have that rifle at home, and i have a direct line of sight." it really can just be that simple.

[@badcornflakes6374]

Occam's razor

[@simonjames1604]

and if it wasnt oswald then what? and thats where the questions begin. nobody sees oswald with a rifle in the tsbd, nobody seems him on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting, nobody sees him pull the trigger, and oswald goes to his grave denying any invovlement. it can be as simple as someone else did it and oswald took the fall as well. the evidence doesnt suggest one more than the other, thanks to jack ruby oswalds side of the story is never told.

[@cowsaysmoo51]

@@simonjames1604there were plenty of people who claimed to have seen a man in a window with a gun. there are no other humans who could have been known to have shot kennedy. the gun was there, oswald was known to have been there at the time of the shots, he shot a police officer when approached and hid in a theater. that kinda sounds like something a guy who just shot the president would do.

[@simonjames1604]

and the rifle by all accounts wasnt at his home, it was at the home of ruth paine. according to the official story at least

[@jackosharkpie3892]

Before your 4 videos, I didn’t know much information about the assassination cause of living outside the United States but knew there might be a conspiracy or not. After watching your videos you have convinced me that Lee Oswald acted alone, impulsive decision, crime of opportunity. Love the videos ❤

[@iseeeverything]

Good job on completing this! I watched all four parts! Also Mr Beat is making his own version of this soon

[@tokenjoy]

LHO did, in fact, try to fire his handgun at the arresting police officers but one of the officers grabbed for the gun and the flesh between his thumb and index finger prevented the hammer from striking the cartridge.

[@simonjames1604]

ask your self this very simple question, if that is as you say a fact, then why is oswald not charged with attempted murder or at least assualt against the officer? if the anwer you can come up with is anything thats beyond the nonsensical you are smarter than most becuase if this story is factual the dallas police just went from being inept to criminally useless at their jobs.

[@drs-xj3pb]

@@simonjames1604 There wasn't enough time between his arrest and his murder for Oswald to have been charged with anything. Including shooting Kennedy. He was suspected, he was even accused, but I don't think he was ever charged. The investigation was continuing, and they were still figuring out jurisdiction.

[@drs-xj3pb]

Well, I was wrong about that. Oswald was arraigned for the murder of Kennedy at 1:35 in the morning of 23 November. He was arraigned for the murder of Tippit at 7:10 in the evening of 22 November.

[@simonjames1604]

@@drs-xj3pb so we have established that there was plenty of time to charge oswald with attempted murder of an officer, in fact given the series of events that should have been the FIRST charge that was laid as it was the only crime to which the police claimed to have direct eye witness testimony ( their own mostly) to back it up. and the DPD knew they had juristiction and did go out of their way to inform both the secret service and the FBI of this fact, didnt stop the secret service from keeping marina oswald under wraps, or the FBI from demanding evidence but thats not the point. so again it begs the question ,if its a slam dunk obvious crime that happened wheres the charge? and to apply everyones favorite razor , the easiest most obvious answer is clear, no charge cause just because a cop tells a tall tale doesnt mean it actually happened.

[@johnmiwa6256]

Well, I am disappointed that Lemmino did not go through the Zapruder film. That film definitively proves that the third bullet came from behind. Anyone who can't acknowledge that is indulging their need to see a conspiracy.

[@evanolivas5035]

The Zapruder film was heavily edited by the CIA. The clip you see on KZbin is fabricated by the government to fit their lone gunman narrative.

[@petrri323]

He mentioned it at one point as a piece of evidence. But did not give it more credibility than any other piece of evidence. I think the Zapruder film has been extremely romanticized as the "missing piece of evidence," and that's the main reason he chose not to focus on it completely. Also he prefaced the video as a whole with the fact that he would be focusing on the Book Depository, and only the Book Depository, viewing the evidence through a specific and more focused lens.

[@johnmiwa6256]

@@petrri323 "Also he prefaced the video as a whole with the fact that he would be focusing on the Book Depository, and only the Book Depository, viewing the evidence through a specific and more focused lens." Except that he discussed how different people in the plaza heard different numbers of gunshots and echoes. "I think the Zapruder film has been extremely romanticized as the "missing piece of evidence," " That's not the same thing as being able to refute the Zapruder film with specificity. The spray from Kennedy's head went forward. That means the bullet had to come from behind. Laws of Physics, pure and simple.

[@simonjames1604]

@@petrri323 how is the zapruder film a missing piece of evidence? its been available to everyone since the mid 70s when dick gregory showed it on national tv. and most people agree it clearly shows the fatal shot being a frontal one, so theres good reason not to focus on it, it contradicts a shot from behind.

[@johnmiwa6256]

@@simonjames1604 On the contrary. The spray from Kennedy's head went forward, so the bullet had to come from behind.

[@jemeryramos]

the ending was so wholesome

[@zackshrout6726]

It’s here!!

[@lithium23]

To illustrate how crazy the times were, according to RFK JR, RFK's first thought about his brothers assassination was that the CIA was behind it. Stating: "My father called the CIA desk officer and asked him, 'Did you do this?'" Kennedy Jr. said. "The second call was to one of the Bay of Pig leaders that was still close friends of the family, and he asked him the same question. ... It was my father's first instinct to ask if the CIA had killed his brother." JFK's brother, who clearly had the inside scoop on many things, didn't think it was out of the CIA's grasp to do this. I think the only viable way the CIA could have done this is if Oswald was a known Commie asset on a rolodex of many, and some CIA guy said something like.. "who do we have in Dallas that can maybe do this, lets get our pretend Commie handler tell him its possible to do this." The FBI and CIA have been known to push unstable suspects into committing crimes so this part is not too far fetched and it would also explain how some of the investigation went afterwards, as RFK also thought the Warren Commission was shoddy and the person who took charge of it personally disliked JFK a great deal. This logic just influences possible crimes of opportunity rather then creates a big web of strings that needs to place Oswald where he was. Personally though, I think it was probably just Oswald acting alone.

[@retrosympathizer8776]

Used to be a conspiracy nut and believe Oswald was not solely responsible. Many years later, I do believe him to be solely responsible, killing an officer just asking questions doesn't = innocent imo. Lemmino's conclusion of a conspiracy to cover up incompetence does make sense to me. According to Wikipedia, the Dallas PD has had incidents of misconduct to as far back to at least 1973, and that's just one case in particular. Not to mention the fact Ruby supposedly killed Oswald out of "patriotism" if you believe him. Of course there's also Oswald's communist sympathies during a time of high tension. Lastly, while I believe Oswald was soley responsible for JFK's death, it wouldn't surprise me if some people in government used it as an opportunity to get their way now that he was not in the way. The CIA is already guilty of many dirty deeds during this time. The mob also hated JFK and Bobby Kennedy as well, so when both wound up dead due to sole assassins with their own motives, it presents opportunities. Yes, this is a morbid thing to think, but it does make sense, at least to me(Also no, LBJ is NOT responsible for the Kennedy assassination, just want to put that out there. TL:DR- Oswald is the sole assassin who merely sensed an opportunity and took it. That said, this wouldn't rule out a benign conspiracy to cover up incompetence and it also wouldn't rule out people who didn't like Kennedy wanting to get things passed or approved now that he was no longer there. *I AM ONLY STATING MY OPINION BASED OFF WHAT I HAVE LEARNED AND WHAT I THINK* If have gotten anything wrong, just lemmino ;)

[@simonjames1604]

thats the trap that is set, tippet proves kennedy , kennedy proves tippett, oswald had to have done both, but heres the thing, there is no evidence that he shot either of them. the ballistics on the tippett case are non conclusive as they are on the jfk case, nobody at all sees oswald shoot jfk , nobody sees him on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting and nobody in the TSBD EVER sees oswald with anything that resembles a rifle. the tippit case has even less evidence, the sole witness to that shooting gives a conflicting account that does not jive with the facts and fingerprints found on the police car DONT match oswalds. i am not saying oswald was gjilty but oswald was never found guilty of either of these charges, so to assume he had to have done both is taking two huge leaps of faith and the circumstantial evidence dont quite get you there, and if ruby is so damn patriotic why did he skip seeing kennedy that day and instead go and place ads for his strip clubs at the time? doesnt sound like the huge kennedy fan he was portrayed as after the fact., sounds like a guy who couldnt care less.

[@malboyqt]

this was a great series

[@Jake-mc6kw]

Hello Chris, I loved this 4 parter, Lemmino is just fantastic as is your input which is rarely found with other reactions on YT :) I remember when you reacted to his Jack the Ripper documentary which is my personal favourite of his and I was wondering if you could maybe make your own video(s) talking about JtR since you also have had a fond interest in the subject for decades. I think you said you had wrote pieces about it all back in the day and I thought maybe you could bring them up and maybe bring light to other points in the story that Lemmino didn't get around to himself, as he always says in his videos there's only so much he can talk about in 1 documentary. I believe there have even been "new" findings, thoughts and beliefs about what happened since Lemmino made his video, it's a fascinating rabbit hole

[@jacobduncan2142]

For me, it's the events that occurred after the assassination that raised so many red flags. The fact that the Secret Service illegally took Kennedys body from Parkland to Air Force 1. The fact that the person who removed the body in Bethesda did not remove it from the same coffin as it had been sent. The fact that between Parkland and Bethesda, someone crudely cut into the scalp of the deceased President. The fact the doctor who performed the autopsy had never worked with bullet wounds before. The fact that he was ordered to burn his notes... I've never been one to say Oswald wasn't involved. But something feels very off with the aftermath.

[@COwens]

Gus Russo writes: "Complicated homicide autopsies have been known to last for two days. But when John Kennedy's autopsy had been in progress for just two hours, Bobby Kennedy, in his suite on the 17th floor, began growing impatient. It was 10 PM and he was ready to leave with his brother's body. Godfrey McHugh spoke with Bobby by phone and assured him the doctors would be finished by midnight. In his later testimony, McHugh stated that Bobby Kennedy frequently phoned the autopsy suite, inquiring "about the results, about why the autopsy was taking so much time, and about the need for speed." McHugh said that even after informing Kennedy that the autopsists would need a few more hours, Bobby called frequently to ask why it was taking so long. According to Captain John Stover, the Commander of the Bethesda Naval Medical School, Bobby went so far as to periodically visit the autopsy room during the procedure, further heightening the pressure on the investigators. Dr. Boswell testified that JFK's physician, Dr. Burkley, made it clear that he didn't want a report on the adrenals. Burkley was in constant phone contact with Bobby and Jackie. An FBI agent present confirmed that, to this point, there was "no question that Burkley was conveying the wishes of the Kennedy family." The above accounts, taken together, demonstrate a family's abnormal concern over the details of a murder autopsy. There is little doubt about the reason for the Kennedy family intrusions. It was indeed a coverup, but not of the assassination. During the 1960 primary campaign for president, questions about JFK's health had been raised from many quarters, including that of Lyndon Johnson, then a Democratic rival for the party's nomination. The American public, traditionally sensitive about the health of their candidates, was assured that Kennedy was in fine shape. They were further assured that rumors of his having Addison's disease, about which the voters were particularly concerned, were incorrect. In fact, the assurance was entirely false. In recent years, it has been learned -- from Kennedy's own autopsists -- that Kennedy's adrenals had atrophied to the point where they had practically evaporated, leaving only a few trace cells behind. The Journal of the American Medical Association summarized the importance of this finding: The Nixon vs. Kennedy presidential election of 1960 was extremely close; a scant 0.17% (114,673) of voters separated the victor from the loser. The mental and physical health of a presidential candidate in 1992 -- or in 1960 -- is of great political concern to the electorate. But had the American people been told that one candidate had suffered for more than 13 years from an incurable, potentially fatal, although fully treatable disease and that there were potential serious adverse effects of treatment, would the election results have been different? Of even more potential embarrassment was the fact that JFK suffered from severe and persistent venereal disease -- gonorrhea, specifically. Long-rumored, this fact became conclusive when the notes of JFK's physician, Dr. William Herbst, were made available at the Kennedy Library in Boston in 1992. Those notes clearly reveal his treatment of Kennedy's massive "gonococcal infections." Thus, on the evening of November 22, decisions were made by Robert Kennedy to perpetuate the lie of JFK's health history -- a move that also served to consolidate the myth of Camelot. For years, this secrecy fed the flames of rumors about a government-based conspiracy. In 1998, after an exhaustive review of the events, the Assassinations Record Review Board concluded that, "[in] protecting the privacy and the sensibilities of the president's family -- the legacy of such secrecy has caused distrust and suspicion." Before leaving the autopsy suite, Dr. Finck was specifically instructed by the Surgeon General of the Navy not to discuss the case without first coordinating with Robert Kennedy. That directive was bolstered two weeks later, on December 6, when Bobby Kennedy directed JFK's personal physician, Dr. Travell (over her strong objections), that "all correspondence which deals with a personal medical matter should be regarded as privileged information, and should not go to the Central Files." It was under these extreme pressures that the overwhelmed autopsists proceeded. Political realities and personal considerations dominated. Much of the controversy that would later surround the JFK autopsy focused on the competence of Drs. Humes and Boswell. In fact, given what they were charged to determine, they were competent. "My orders were to find the cause of death," Humes later recalled. And therein lies the crux of the controversy. There is a fundamental difference between a pathological autopsy (as performed by Humes and Boswell) and a legal-forensic autopsy performed in murder cases. Although Humes and Boswell determined the cause of death, a bullet to JFK's head, they were not precise enough for medical-legal standards -- which they weren't told to consider. (In truth, the doctors should have been prescient enough to undertake this type of autopsy without being so directed.) As a result, the President's head was not shaved, and the brain not sectioned. These procedures would have determined the exact point of entrance and trajectory of the fatal wound.

[@rustyknott-W.D]

Recollections can be nebulous, especially when talking about what happened years later with friends who were there at the time. It's amazing how the accounts, while similar, vary as to the specifics.

[@pmd_nails]

Great reaction as always! If you ever decide to do another JFK assassination reaction, I HIGHLY recommend Ask A Mortician's video about getting the body to DC/Planning the funeral

[@ryanm9566]

Walking a mile in 30 minutes isn't even a brisk walk, that's like a leisurely stroll lol. Average adult walking pace is like 3mph, not exercising or anything, just regular walking. You could easily walk 3/4 a mile in 25 minutes without sprinting. Yeah, people are inclined to want to believe that big, important events must have equally big, important causes...that's a common cognitive bias, but it isn't necessarily the case. Small droplets can create big ripples, y'know? JFK might have been a monumental figure, but at the end of the day he is just a human, and being an important human doesn't make him any more bulletproof than the rest of us. Just ask Lincoln, McKinley and Garfield.

[@moneymastermind2698]

Great point on 1:45. The dispatch says “You will be at large”. Which to my understanding means that Officer Tippit will be available for any emergency that occurs in the city of Dallas as opposed to just his assigned patrol location.

[@phantomtitan9792]

Fascinating video

[@TecDax]

I was once asked to identify a bike thief from a photo of a suspect. He had asked me for a cigarette shortly before I went back into my workplace building and he went to steal the bicycle. It had only been a few days, but I had absolutely no idea what he looked like anymore.

[@michaellefevre1253]

JFK, THe mystery of Roanoke, Jack the Ripper.... Lemmino create amazing content!!

[@weasel_town4870]

Thank you for helping my understanding of why there could even be a conspiracy about this. I knew it had something to do with the "effect of disbelief," but couldn't put it together in my head how to justify it.