The Search for D.B. Cooper (Lemmino) - Reaction

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[@alexanderg.i1991]

Lemmino’s Jack the Ripper documentary is a legitimate masterpiece

[@austinbatton9212]

Y’all really throw that word around way to much but yea it’s good probably the best that’s out but a masterpiece?

[@SaidBayan]

@@austinbatton9212 it is genuinely a masterpiece

[@whyareyouhere6274]

@@austinbatton9212 Lemmino is a masterpiece. He made alot of his own songs for his videos

[@theparadigm8149]

@@whyareyouhere6274 Really? Nice!

[@whyareyouhere6274]

@@theparadigm8149 Yeah, cicada 3301 is his own song

[@tdkb3395]

The disappointment on his face when they said he lost the cigarettes was hilarious 😂

[@jjpark98]

I think we all are disappointed by that fact. How the hell does the FBI lose big time evidence like that? Either it was done on purpose or someone at the FBI at the time was a real idiot.

[@negatiff3411]

This guy is real!

[@GenDrag1]

he was a juror at one point, dude definitely hates when slam dunks are thrown away because of negligence

[@HistoryNerd808]

​@@GenDrag1 In the defense of las enforcement there, they had no way of knowing, a decade+ pre-DNA testing, that it would be as valuable as it could have been.

[@101Phase]

36:10 What I find funny about suspect 4 is that all of the 'evidence' given came from his widow after his death, they were all way too perfect (especially the nightmare) and none of it is independently verifiable. It sounds to me like the woman wanted to make a quick buck from interviews or book writers by deliberately linking her dead husband to the story when she realised his background fit profile so well

[@jackmedlock5888]

Or she was terrified to tell anyone. It’s a possibility.

[@I_Stole_A_BTR-80]

​@@jackmedlock5888From personal experience, I feel it's a lot more likely that she just had a grudge against her husband. And making such an accusation would allow the memory of her husband to be ruined, and probably give her quite a few paid interviews as well.

[@patrickthomas8890]

Completely agree. Always need to consider motives or ways in which someone could benefit from a claim. Writing a book is a great possible cash cow if it’s a sexy enough story

[@RonaldNolter-ih4ry]

His Background ,and profile ,fit so well because, he is Dan Cooper,How can it be independently verifiable,when she was told who he was only3 days before he died,1. D. Weber looks a lot like composite C, sketch,the one from F. Shaffner' s memory,he looks like 2. ND photo with slight changes,no sketch is perfect for anybody,3.D. Webers brother worked for Boeing,he Weber studied for heist obviously,4. Weber was in Navy got kicked out,ended up in army,jumped from planes there,5. Why would you drive 3,000 miles and end up at( Tina's Bar)in late summer1979, 6. Wife said Weber walked downriver with bag from Trunk,she said hands dirty when he came back,Money found with rubber bands on but,FBI,said they were Putin within a year,Weber buried it to try and Throw Authorities off,make them think he landed, or died in river, it's sounds to me like his wife is just trying to figure things out after he mentioned this on his death bed,which is when you would,of course he kept quiet till then, because FBI,would be on him,she said she found N.W. airline ticket,a book on D.B.with his hand writing in the margins,and other things he said,7. Most important ,top clue,+ a lot more I don't want keep writing so much,ButA Man checked in to a Hotel in Portland the Night before the Hi Jacking, under the Name John C. Collins, Later found to be Duane Weber s Alias,his wife also found this amongst his stuff after he died, obviously you would lay low after and Weber did obviously,most of all these other so called top suspects,didn't lay low,look in to it,slot most of these,researchers,seem to suggest,you had to have 800 jumps,decorated military man,you could find 3,000 people fit that,or yo had to work in certain airplane engineer,which is ridiculous, nobody has more there than Weber and nobody under 42,or over 48, when you narrow it down then you'll find Cooper, (age,no criminal B. Round ,Height, weight ,if these are off move to next suspect).

[@RonaldNolter-ih4ry]

You half to just Dis regard Duane Weber s younger jail photo ,big ear photo' s,everyone looks different from photo ,to photo, especially year to year,look at other Duane Weber Photos, Webers ears Don't Stand out as much in other photos , remember he was wearing sun glasses,which can make photos not as notable,only one witness was close most of time ,to Cooper,Tina muckalo.

[@Ozai75]

I think the implication that she needed to head to the front of the plane and he not be disturbed lends credence to them basically not taking any chances of him blowing the plane up because they decided to be lookie-loos.

[@charlesevanshughes3638]

When in the air with a man threatening to blow the plane, the pilots and flight crew only want to get out of there alive. None of them would look back in the chance that it could help with the investigation.

[@davidevans691]

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[@michaelmccracken172]

So to answer your question about the routing from New York to Pittsburgh, the FAA has designed the airway route structure to include standard departure and arrival routings to and from major airports like JFK/LGA/EWR and PIT. They are designed in a way that provides the most efficient overall flow of traffic by de-conflicting the routes prior to Air Traffic Control (ATC) involvement. In other words, the departure routes from New York's airspace are not the same as the arrival routes. That being said, the arrival routes into the NYC area are more-or-less directly from the west (which is where PIT is located), which forces the departures from NYC to take routes that are either north or south of that arrival corridor. I'd be happy to show it to you on the flight charts if you'd like. Source: I'm an airline pilot who regularly flies in and out of all 4 NYC airports

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

I knew there was probably some reason for it, thanks for the explanation!

[@Shifty69569]

That’s super cool to read

[@badcornflakes6374]

Dude, sick name

[@admcToGo]

Really interesting! I thought it might have something to do with the nature of straight paths on a spherical surface. The direct straight path between two cities on the map does come out to be a curve instead of a straight line when looking at a sphere, if i am not mistaken.

[@michaelmccracken172]

@@admcToGo Yes, that is called a “great circle route”. This is why if you look at flight paths for transatlantic flights they seem to go wayyyy up north then back south, but in reality it’s a fairly straight line. However, this difference is negligible at short distances such as JFK-PIT

[@CoidyUK]

Lemmino used to create top 10 fact videos etc. and his content has reached a whole other level of production quality in recent years. Just a shame about his intermittent upload schedule but whenever he uploads It's almost certainly worth a watch. The only way it could be improved is with you providing your further insight and expertise as usual, cant wait to watch!

[@theaces3697]

to be fair i much rather he make tv level quality such as this compared to just another fact channel that pumps out content

[@animation1234111]

@OMB ZAY 🅱️🐝 Even back then, he was way better than other “Top 10” channels.

[@OrAngeAnArchy]

I can get subscribers being a bit annoyed by his upload schedule, it reminds me of CGP Greys, where production is great but leaves you wanting more. While I do like how Lemmino does his top 10's, i agree his long form history videos are just better, entertaining and educational and disscusion-provoking...my favorite is still Cicada 3301.

[@theguy1254]

the same can be said for oversimplified

[@9051team]

Tbh his top 10 vids is on another level when compared to other channels. Especially his space vids, they are extremely thought provoking

[@SSky06]

On the subject of eyewitness testimony being notoriously bad -- I came out of my grandparents house one night (they live in a medium sized city) and as I was walking to my car around the block, a man opened the door and got out. I quickly thought, "Oh man, I must have parked further away than I thought" and he clearly thought I was just someone walking by because we looked right at each other and he said "Hello" and I said "hey." I turned around and looked around for my car for a second before I realized that WAS my car and it clicked that my iPod (lol dated reference) was in the center console and he had exited my vehicle when he saw me coming back to it. When I turned back toward him it kind of clicked for both of us that I realized what was up and he took off running. I chased him for a few blocks and we passed a neighbor of his who said "Hey" to him before he gave me the slip. The neighbor saw me chasing him and asked what happened and I said he got out of my car and probably robbed me. I found out about 10 minutes later he actually hadn't seen my iPod and just stole my spare change. His neighbor gave me his name and address and in an hour or so the cops had him in cuffs and drove me past to identify him. For the life of me, I could not remember what he looked like at all, and I had been three feet away from him and he had said "hello" to me only one hour earlier. I totally blanked on his face. They said they needed a positive ID to arrest him and I was worried about the wrong person being prosecuted for something so dumb, so I told them I couldn't be sure. So now imagine 4-5 different people all trying to remember what Cooper looked like hours after the fact and then having the sketch artists get it right, which are also notoriously inaccurate. It's completely possible he looks nothing like his sketches at all.

[@MA-on9xl]

The sketches are likely accurate; nearly identical descriptions were given on the same evening in totally separate cities by eyewitnesses.

[@everburn]

Interesting story

[@kennylee6499]

difference is these people had direct and repeated contact with him for hours and hours.

[@Christan_Moreno]

It's likely the sketches are on the right track. Not exactly 100% though.

[@MisterJackTheAttack]

27:45 This gets said *a lot*, but that tidbit forgets history a tiny bit. The drop zone was in the area of Mount St. Helen's which erupted in May 1980 (just 3 months after the bundles were found at Tina Bar). Any evidence that would have been left behind very easily could be gone (or simply buried) because of that.

[@TORchic1]

Oh wow. I never knew that, and I had a small period of time in 2020 when I was enthralled by the Mount St. Helen's Eruption.

[@floraalmond1440]

Can we talk about how William Smith looks EXACTLY like the portrait they drew of suspect ? I know there are different sketches and it's not always 100% accurate but that guy doesn't even look a tiny bit different.

[@evok2714]

Ikr

[@LoaThunder]

The reason why I favor him over any suspect

[@kix4635]

Great reaction, I personally loved how they "solved" this mystery in the Loki show

[@michaelryvin7308]

It was a nice nod to all us history nerds

[@gregcourtney751]

The show prison brwak used it too. Cooper was a prisoner and season 2 is about getting his gold.

[@Ghatbkk]

As a military paratrooper who has spent time in the Pacific Northwest, I agree with the posters who think it is unlikely that Cooper survived. First, you have someone exiting an aircraft at speeds well above what parachutes are designed for in the middle of the night. So, IF he is experienced enough to get stable, spread-eagle to reduce his airspeed and then pull his ripcord before impacting the ground, you have the problem of basically making a tree landing in all likelihood. Without boots, without a helmet, with no real protection. Then, because he doesn't have a functional reserve, he doesn't really have a way to get out of the tree. It would not surprise me in the least if his remains are found hanging from a tree at some point, but it also wouldn't surprise me if nothing is ever found, simply because of how big that forested area is. If he did manage to survive the parachute jump, he then has to navigate to somewhere - does he have a compass? At a minimum, he'd need that. He's in a trench coat, a suit, loafers and has a briefcase (which he likely simply tossed out of the airplane) and a bag of money. Not exactly the items you'd want to survive in a wilderness. So, unless he was really lucky, landed fairly near a road and got a ride out, he is likely still in that forest. Bones slowly disappearing. Btw, assuming the parachute was nylon (which is likely), all that might be left is the parachute and it's cords. Everything else would have long deteriorated and disappeared already (maybe not the sunglasses).

[@doesnotexist305]

I’d say that there’s no possibility that he survived. The fact that none of the bills given to him have ever turned up just confirms it.

[@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@doesnotexist305 ”no possibility” is simply absurd. Of course it’s possible.

[@GBOAC]

@@doesnotexist305 There have been cases of people surviving a fall from an airplane *without* a parachute altogether (Vesna Vulović survived a fall from 10km). Of course it's unlikely, but still that makes a fall *with* a parachute far less improbable to survive. In any case it's baseless to say there's 'no possibility'. And some bills did turn up, 5800 USD was found in 1980 on the banks of the Columbia River.

[@thunderbird7020]

Problem with your claim is that copycats did similar if not worse jumps but survived (Martin McNally surviving in particular is one makes it clear Cooper surviving was absolutely viable). Also in 2019 it was revealed by the FBI that there was apparently a robbery within the drop zone in the community of Heisson only 3 hours after he jumped and the only things stolen were things that would be used to survive like gloves and food like beef jerky. Money and other valuables were untouched.

[@Ghatbkk]

@@apaulcalypse_ Hitting a road is breaking your ankles.

[@RRW359]

One thing I haven't seen many people mention about searching the area for "decades" is that his jump zone was well within the area that was devastated by st. Helens 9 years later. If he died either on decent or by exposure then all the evidence would have been buried afterwards.

[@ItsTheCos]

Smith and Christiansen are the two most interesting suspects talked about here, I agree. The Cooper case is really interesting because it managed to completely capture our attention despite it being a bloodless, victimless crime. It's just a pure mystery box through and through.

[@Elydir]

I think it being bloodless and victimless is what makes it more romantic. It's hard to romanticize Jack the Ripper who butchered women. This guy? He just shows up, hijacks a plane, demands ransom, jumps out with his money in the middle of the night and is never seen again.

[@christophervanoster]

Victimless? What about the money he stole from people? Or the crew probably were shitting themselves that whole time

[@ItsTheCos]

@@christophervanoster it says in the documentary that the money supplied was put aside by the bank for this exact purpose. That's why they have all the serial numbers. As far as the hostages go, he let all the passengers off as soon as they landed and was allegedly very cordial and often even polite to the crew. It's a bad situation to be in but as far as hostage situations go he seemed to be about as gentle and non threatening as humanly possible. We don't even know if he really had a bomb or any kind of weapon, they may not have even been in danger. Nobody was hurt and he stole money from a bank. As close to a victimless crime as you can get

[@christophervanoster]

@@ItsTheCos so having a bomb and threatening to kill 4 people is a victimless crime? Okay then apparently 4 people isn’t a big deal

[@michaelh6184]

The threat of violence is still coercion, it wasn't a victimless crime. It was bloodless though

[@jaycob1830]

His supposed drop was around the Oregon area of Mt. St Helens, if he died from the fall or didn’t make it out of the woods alive, his remains and possible evidence was probably destroyed by the 1980 eruption of Mt. St Helens. If the volcano never erupted then this case might have been solved by now.

[@shreyasdalal]

good point however there is 9 years between the hijack and the eruption

[@kevinbowen6182]

One thing about this case: something new and fascinating comes out about this case every year. Last year the titanium discoverers came out with the diatom study that implied the beach was in Columbia river water during (I think it's) May. It actually strengthens the case for it being planted there.. New releases of old FBI files showed that Cooper probably visited a specific jump center in Southern Cal a few months before the jump. There was also a burglary of a small store that would have been in just about the right place at the right time between Cooper's drop zone and Portland. All that was discovered in the last year or two.

[@titanschannel585]

Do you have a link for the burglary thing?

[@titanschannel585]

@@ovuvuevuevueenyetuenwuevue8791 thanks

[@dechezhaast]

I always get scared when watching Lemmino’s videos. His voice, the video themes, and design just messes with me. It’s always good to watch something scary with someone else though :)

[@nicoleheartscheer]

The voice and the music is what gets me. I can never watch it to go to sleep, though I watch others of Chris’ videos at night as well as other history videos.

[@confused_lefty]

Ikr, I called my mate over to stay with me for couple of days because I was scared after watching jack the ripper and this video back to back

[@DavidGodwinCalico]

Many of the first security measures that were instituted in airports were because of this incident.

[@DavidGodwinCalico]

If you are on a West to East flight (for example) but the runway is oriented, North to South a large loop may be required for the airplane to land on a runway that is on a different directional orientation than the original flight path.

[@oldeskul]

One of the first security measures was to add the Cooper Latch onto all of the rear steps of all 727s that could only be unlocked while the plane is on the ground and sitting still.

[@RMR1]

There's a problem with your theory that something of his would have been found if he didn't survive the jump -- namely, the terrain of southern Washington state. That area is beyond vast, with thousands of square miles of enormously dense forests. Planes have been lost and never found in similar forestland. So it would not be at all difficult for a man to die in those woods and literally never be found.

[@ninjagirl226]

They have recently found remains of parachutes in the “Cooper corner”. But how do prove that the parachute was his? All we know is Cooper didn’t land in the water.

[@mike04574]

It’s been awhile too

[@Old_Indian_Trick]

The money with the serial numbers tho...

[@JubioHDX]

and dont forget, was in the relative area of the mt st helens eruption in 1980 if im not wrong, evidence of him couldve very well been buried before anything could be found in that first decade after the incident

[@RMR1]

@@JubioHDX Possible but unlikely. The jump zone -- if the FBI was right about its proximate location -- is about 40 miles southwest of Mount St. Helens and while the area around Lake Merwin was covered in about 6 inches of ash following the eruption, it probably wasn't enough to destroy or permanently obscure any evidence. But like I said, unlikely but not out of the question. It's an interesting theory.

[@gabrielescobar6865]

Amazing. Can’t wait to watch this video. You should to more crime and stuff around the 70’s and 80’s. Love the content

[@MrPhilsterable]

He really does have such a great presentation style for these documentaries. And the production value is as good as or even better than anything you might find on the History or Discovery channels.

[@TheRacoonGhost]

while i agree that he does amazing presentations, its worth pointing out that basically any presentation is better than what you find on (pseudo) "History" Channel

[@JamosisKlyde]

13:20 you’re right. There are certain routes and altitudes planes have to take when traveling from one airport to another so that they don’t accidentally crash into another aircraft.

[@austin5645]

I thought it was to ride air currents for faster travel?

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Airlines upon arrival to a certain airport is given priority to land so there routes will always be direct as opposed to "departures" they are direct away; sometimes in the opposite direction of their attended destination, as to avoid a potential mid air conflict.

[@jazzi_0453]

@@MarloSoBalJr Not true, direction of landings and departures depend mostly on the prevailing wind. ATC is responsible to keep planes seperated.

[@ninjagirl226]

There was a recent peer reviewed paper that was published about the DB Cooper money and diatoms on the found bills. Diatoms are microalge and can be linked to a season to determine when the bound money was in the water. The study shows that the money was only in the water in June/May not November. What this suggests is Cooper did NOT land in the water ad the money get to Tina bar naturally. Some form of intervention is required to get the three bundles to Tina Bar. BUT this study also shows that the money was indeed submerged at one point and not just buried there. Makes for an interesting timeline. But this study convinced me he survived. No one else has a good motivation to hide the money due to the reward. Also, the jump is survivable people have done the Cooper jump and survived I see no reason Cooper couldn’t as well especially since data suggests he didn’t land in the ice cold water.

[@kylewilson2819]

As someone from the Portland, OR area and someone who did spend a day "Looking for Cooper", it is my belief that he did perish in the jump and that the money was either picked up by someone else or simply washed ashore. The thing about the area surrounding Portland that is hard to picture for those who haven't been here is that the woods around the city are MASSIVE! Even experienced hikers and mountaineers constantly get lost, die or simply disappear ALL THE TIME! On top of that, DB Cooper was jumping from 10,000 feet blindly, in the dead of night (Which in the 70's would've been even less visible even in ideal weather) and in Oregon November weather. So even if DB Cooper survived the jump itself (Which is unlikely given the size and structure of the trees in the area), he would've been alone in the Oregon forests, with nothing around in any direction for miles, and having to deal with near freezing weather and constant rain. Seriously, in November in Oregon, IT DOES NOT STOP RAINING. It's a constant drizzle pretty much the entire winter and it's never above 55 degrees. I think his remains were likely devoured by animals and/or destroyed by nature, and the money was either scattered during the jump or simply hasn't been found. With how many people have been lost in those woods, it wouldn't surprise me if those bags of money were still out there. Love your content and I look forward to seeing more! If you ever come out to Oregon, I highly recommend the Oregon Historical Society Center in Portland.

[@xGEOBOMB11]

This is very interesting insight, but do you think the investigators could've done a good enough job with the potential landing area to shrink the potential landing zone to a searchable proportion?

[@kylewilson2819]

@@xGEOBOMB11 I think it’s definitely possible, and losing the cig butts are absolutely unacceptable, even for the 70’s. Having said that, it is ALWAYS difficult to find people in the forests up here. The trees all look the same, moss grows on all sides of the trees, and the constant bad weather makes traveling by the sun or the stars nearly impossible. It’s super dangerous for someone who is unprepared or inexperienced to go into the forests alone, and even experienced hikers are constantly going missing or getting found decades later

[@fighterck6241]

The big question is who buried the money? Because a human being definitely buried at least some of the cash so someone knew what happened whether it was Cooper himself or a person who found his body.

[@strahaironscale571]

he could have easily aimed for open area landing or even river landing. probably had help waiting for him. the guy appeared to be well prepared, with a plan. Is he had military training he probably would have survived

[@eyvithorgeirsson6028]

@@strahaironscale571 Dude, the guy jumped with a shitty unstearable parashute in the dead of night, had no idea where he was, in over 300 km/h winds and heavy rain, while wearing a trenchcoat. Even if he survived the landing, he would guaranteed break a couple of bones or get injured in other ways. But even if he survived with minor injuries, there’s just no chance in hell that he could survive walking for miles upon miles in a forest that looks the same everywhere, especially considering his clothing. Even if he somehow managed to do that, how would he be undetected for over 51 years without anybody noticing him. I think that he would have a higher chance of surviving if he jumped into a volcano. (not seriously of course but you get the point).

[@sandycheeks8957]

These r some of my favorite vids from you! Lemmino is a great story teller and you add even more

[@thenewb3189]

Nice to see more of LEMMiNO. Been one of my favorite channels for years, before the name change, and it’s amazing to see how much he has improved/changes over time and it’s just as awesome to see all of the love and support he still gets. It’s just wholesome, y’know.

[@jarrodreilly8591]

LEMMiNO's most recent video would be an interesting reaction to scientific history and how "facts" change as we advance our collective knowledge. All his stuff is amazing

[@JasonJrake]

1) a lot of people expected the end of the show Madmen to have the main character become DB. Cooper. 2) in addition to the suspects mentioned here, 2 different men’s families have come out before 2010 claiming deathbed confessions that their dad was DBC. Both had military paratrooper training, and a mysterious large sun of money they dipped into cautiously throughout their life. Both led unusually reclusive lives after the date of the hijacking in spite of raising families.

[@clayschwartzwalter382]

Lemmino and Kurzgesagt are my two favorite channels when it comes to presentation quality. (And the info they provide is well-sourced and top notch, too!)

[@saaamember97]

New to the channel, and highly interested in anything relating to the D.B. Cooper case. The show "Brad Meltzer's: DECODED" undertook an attempt to try and come up with who they think D.B. Cooper really was. The show features Brad Meltzer as the host/narrator and three individuals he has selected as his investigators. In the D.B. Cooper episode, they quickly hedge their bets on suspect Christiansen (The guy you stated has a nose that most closely matches the artists drawings). I found it so compelling, that I now believe that it was Christiansen who was D.B. Cooper. I think you should give the show a gander!

[@tomatotot2934]

i started watching lemmino over 4 years ago, crazy to see how far he has came! thanks for the video :D

[@HothVeteran]

I remember recommending this to you on your reaction to his Jack the Ripper Documentary. So glad you finally got around to doing this!

[@kevinbowen6182]

It's a good intro video. I actually think it was Christiansen. 1) He went from doing odd jobs around his friends' house to make ends meet before the skyjaking to being the go to guy for personal loans for friends right afterward, within about 2 years 2) there's a picture of him wearing a similar outfit carrying a bag taken at some time in the holiday season 1971; 3) Kenny,, his best friend and his friend's wife attended Thanksgiving dinner at a friend's house in 1970 and 1972 but the two men were AWOL for it in 1971; 4) Cooper called Minnesota "good country" while chatting with Mucklow who, like Christiansen, was from Minnesota; 5) As a Northwest employee, KC collected clippings of airline news, but zero clips about the Cooper hijacking.

[@thatkristiandude4048]

It does make a lot of sense when it's laid out like that, but a lot of what we know about him comes from people in his life who he told decades after it happened. That's the only reason I'm skeptical of him being DB Cooper

[@thatkristiandude4048]

Also the odds of someone surviving both the fall and the Oregon wilderness back then is extremely low, but if Cooper did survive, I think Kenneth Christiansen is a very likely suspect

[@bastobasto4866]

@@thatkristiandude4048 And even better : if he was the go-to guy for loans, then why did none of the bills turn up ?

[@fran4636]

The Minnesota angle is interesting. Northwest Airlines was headquartered in Eagan, MN and Minneapolis was one of their main hubs.

[@thorbeorn4295]

History mixed with some mystery couldn't get more interesting! Would love to see more like this!

[@hamoonfarhang8523]

This video is one of my favorite videos of all time , the first video i watched a year ago from Lemmino and couldn't stop watching the whole channel.i was just shocked watching this video on my feed again

[@dude157]

Plot twist, he didn't jump. He just climbed down the landing gear after they landed.

[@drewmassey1426]

This is what I came here to say!

[@knoober3756]

Really great vid bro!!! Keep it up! I feel way more knowledgeable now with your insight and Lemmino’s amazing presentation

[@SASSY-tw6mv]

I heard a story once of a dude who the day before the event supposedly saw cooper and talked with him at a bar, if the bar owner has that receipt he could easily find the identity

[@GBOAC]

A. why would an owner keep a receipt, it's something they give out to customers (the register contains the cashflow administration) B. what personal information would there be on a bar receipt?

[@thedrifter2790]

It’s kinda fun watching VTH ask about something or other and immediately the video responds as if it were listening!

[@Jay2JayGaming]

I remember my friend's uncle taking about air travel in the 80s and about how this one time he forgot to take his bowie knife out of his pocket* and when he got to security they found it and he explained the situation to them and they just said it wasn't a big deal and let him keep it. Shit was wild man. *Probably didn't say his pocket but I was told this story like a decade ago and that's how I remember it

[@svenrio8521]

Another great video, Lemmino is such a great channel to react to. The quality is just superb.

[@connordeboer2928]

just wanted to say that my dad and i both really enjoy your channel, thanks for the content!

[@brilsraist]

I love having watched Lemmino's trajectory as a creator and his mini-docs are amazing

[@WizardToby]

The series "Expedition Unknown" did an episode on DB Cooper. I would recommend watching it. They examined some areas in Washington a bit farther east (in the central part of the state) and spoke to some local eye witnesses who may have interacted with him.

[@lastblueride5]

There were a lot of hijacking from the 70s and 80s. Most of whom were caught. Its fascinating how only the ones that got away gain public interest.

[@HistoryNerd808]

We humans have a natural fascinstion with unsolved mysteries.

[@TribeTaz]

Always been interested in this story. Thanks for sharing this

[@djoxal9810]

I love your work! Love from France!

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

Everybody always talks about how he wasn't prepared for the jump but nobody ever wonders what he had on underneath that three-piece suit that he was wearing.

[@BrittonJOrwin]

I once read a book about a former FBI agent. He told a story about D. B. Cooper in it. The book is called “Agent Bishop”

[@benginsel3178]

Found your channel about 3 weeks ago, been binging pretty much all of your content since then and absolutely love everything especially your original content stuff. If you're looking into maybe checking out more ancient Rome stuff Toldinstone has some pretty good work and he just finished a 3 part series on the destruction of Pompeii and Herculaneum.

[@lhargil]

Oh goodie! Lemmino reaction by you is always a treat!

[@SuperSizedMcChicken]

Awesome video. Love your Lemmino reaction videos because of how good their videos are already, accompanied with your feedback

[@toxenzz]

Amazing story, always captivated me as a child.

[@walterweigert9840]

There is an analysis made by a man called Dan Gryder: "probable cause" who spend years investigating the D. B Cooper affaire. It´s a long video, but I think it´s also worth it to look at. Greetings from NE Patagonia, Argentina.

[@evans7515]

I came here to mention this. It's a must watch if you're at all interested in this case. He makes a very compelling case that Richard McCoy Jr. (Who committed a very similar hijacking after this one) was also responsible for this one. This includes interviews with his children who are now claiming that their father was responsible, but did not want to come forward until recently because their mother was still alive and they were worried she would be charged as an accomplice. Dan Gryder went as far as simulating the Cooper jump with a similar parachute and a bag of fake money to demonstrate how unlikely it was that Cooper was able to hold onto the bag of money, giving him motivation to try again.

[@walterweigert9840]

@@evans7515 Yes, indeed; I´m subscribed to Dan´s channel and watched his video more than once because the data is so overwhelming that it doesen´t "stick" by watching just one time. Very thorough research by Mr. Gryder. Cheers from NE Patagonia, Argentina.

[@phillee2814]

I should have read down before posting my link to Dan's excellent detective work in his documentary on the subject. He has closed the case the FBI wouldn't (and I say wouldn't because of the lies and cover-up they used to prevent their inept approach being seen).

[@phillee2814]

And of course, my comment has a link in, so has been hidden/deleted.

[@edwardcurl3856]

@@evans7515 McCoy has never been proven to be d.b Cooper..and the case has been closed with no positive identity of the perpetrator Dan is speculation and conjecture mixed with interviews of some so called eyewitness..but alot of this so called witness information has been debunked

[@bryanfavreau5671]

Being completely honest, you have one of the best channels on KZbin. I just recently found out about you when looking up videos on World War 1. I've definitely learned an incredible amount. You have a very energetic and entertaining approach. It's clear you have a passion for this, and it makes these videos that much easier to watch. Keep up the amazing work. I will definitely be going through your library and adding to your patreon.. Bryan

[@rager1969]

Parachutes, flaps and landing gear as well as staircase down, it was pretty clear he was planning to jump. He told them not to disturb him in order that they wouldn't know where he jumped and they probably understood that. They complied so that he wouldn't detonate the bomb. Would you risk a peek just to find out if he had jumped yet?

[@the_njf]

I love watching Lemmino. His videos are very well put together.

[@mcwildstyle9106]

I might also have a possible suspect and this might be interesting. His name is Ted Braden. Braden served as a paratrooper in the 101st Airborne then made his way to Special Forces, aka The Green Berets. In 1965 during the Vietnam War, Brade joined "Project DELTA" and by 1966 joined ST (or RT) Colorado of MACV-SOG. Side note: SOG was an all volunteer spec ops unit consisting of mostly Army Green Beret's, Navy Seals, Army Rangers, Force Recon Marines and get this...CIA personnel. Just food for thought ;) Anyway, in late '66, Braden (along with fellow teammates JD Bath and Gary Shadduck were chilling after a successful wire tapping mission in the DMZ. However it will be the last time Braden was seen in Vietnam. In October of 1967, he wrote for Rampart Magazine about how he stole the identity of another SOG recon man named Joseph Horner who was killed in 1965. Under his new name, he went AWOL and went to South Africa to be a mercenary with 5th Commando until being caught by US agents. He was extradited back to the US where he would face a court martial. At the same time SOG was under investigation over it's "cross-border" missions in Laos and Cambodia. Worried that he would both discredit the unit and the Army, he was sworn to secrecy for his role as SOG's first ever team leaders in exchange for an honorable discharge. In an amazing turn of events, he was reported missing AGAIN before the ink on his discharge was dried, but this time he was gone for good. The reason why I bring this up because this theory comes from a instagram post by a man named Jason Economos, who himself wrote a novel about SOG called Gentle Propositions. In the post, he stated SOG recon legends Billy Waugh (who served with the CIA in Afghanistan in 2001 and is currently 92 years old now so he was in his 80's or so when he was in Afghanistan) and John Plaster believed Cooper's real identity is Ted Braden, but it was never proven. However there is a book called Paratrooper of Fortune by Drew Hurst Beeson that claims that Braden is D.B.Cooper

[@kevinbowen6182]

I lean to KC, but Braden is clearly one of the best candidates.

[@mcwildstyle9106]

@@kevinbowen6182 I think Braden is too mostly because it makes a lot of sense. Former paratrooper and special forces, worked with CIA. It adds up

[@yasminni485]

Lemmino's documentaries are awesome - I'm so happy to see your reactions to them. When it come to D.B Cooper, I'm honestly surprised they didn't make a movie about him starting Leo DiCaprio, lol.

[@MattnessLP]

Knowing more about commercial aviation now than I did years ago when I first saw this video, I am surprised it was possible for the plane to stay in a holding pattern around Seattle for 2 full hours. Usually commercial aircraft are only loaded with enough fuel to reach their target destination, plus around 45 minutes extra in case they have to hold or divert due to unforseen traffic or weather circumstances at their target destination.

[@razzledazzle8593]

I think the reason they never checked on him was out of fear. Remember he said not to bother him and looking at him from far away could be bothering to some.

[@ryanedinger7894]

Everything Lemmino does is incredible. Legitimate film quality stuff. I drop everything and watch.

[@ryanshinermusic]

The movie DB Cooper vs. Sasquatch is a version I didn’t expect

[@joshuasimpson364]

This was stupid good definitely like to see more reactions from him

[@davidnicholas7516]

One of the things I find fascinating about history is the fact that to examine something like this, an event or series of events, you have to essentially unlearn things, and realize that the world was a different place back then. I flew to Hawaii repeatedly as a boy (it would have been before this, in the '60s) and I remember vaguely that it was weird the first time you had to go through a metal detector. Back around this time (late '60s and early '70s) there were a LOT of hijackings, and it took a while for the authorities to figure out how to deal with them. Repeatedly radical protesters, terrorists, whatever you'd like to call them, would hijack a plane and divert it to Cuba. There was actually a 1970 movie called "The Out-of-Towners" starring Jack Lemmon and Sandy Dennis, which involves a married couple visiting New York City and having one bad thing happen to them after another. The end of the movie (sorry if I'm spoiling it for you) has them get on a plane, finally escaping NYC, and the plane gets hijacked to Cuba. It was that much of a thing, that Neil Simon (who wrote the screenplay) would include that because you'd expect it. Hijackers always went to Cuba. Anyway, I've always wondered if Cooper had some sort of communication device. Back in those days hand-held radios *did* exist, though the range was typically limited. We simply don't know of course because so much of the investigation was done, as it was with many crimes in that era, in what today law enforcement would almost consider an amateurish fashion. The lost cigarette butts is a good example, but DNA matching wouldn't be a thing for 20+ years *after* the D.B. Cooper incident, so they were probably thought inconsequential. Always wondered what happened, but at this point my money's on us never really figuring it out.

[@kristiann8676]

I remember watching your reaction to his Jack the Ripper video and thinking it was amazing. Love these reactions!

[@Charles-js3ri]

When this channel was reacted, to the first time, I went a little crazy afterwards. I went to the channel and watched most of the videos. After that, I read a few books and articles on several of the subjects.

[@marbelz7]

This brings back memories of a time when hijacking of planes was almost a daily news story. I remember flying from Philadelphia to Toronto as a teen in 1973 to visit my grandparents, the possibility of it happening during my flight was foremost on my mind, thankfully it didn’t.

[@bullreeves1109]

Definitely do more Lemmino reactions, They’re great!

[@dennypetrosian8589]

Let's do this!! Just went on my break and your video went live. Thank you 🙏 it's going to be a good day.

[@DevynPlaysGames]

lemmino is so so good, I can't describe it worth a rewatch, even without your commentary

[@wallywill9255]

I love these videos and this channel. Keep it up!!!

[@julianfox6548]

Your comment at 11:00 is the Mandela effect which coincidentally Lemmino made a video about

[@reaperskeeper8259]

Imagine he’s old as hell living nice, and watching this laughing his ass off

[@stephenh9483]

This wonderful. Thank you

[@jackryan3043]

Lemmino is just so good. Hope you do more of them

[@_Daniel_Plainview]

this is one of my favourite mysteries, nice video

[@CinemaKnight]

I was a little curious about Smith, because he does seem like a interesting suspect when Lemmino lays it out, and I had no idea that he lived in my hometown! He passed away in 2018, RIP, the same year that The Oregonian highlighted him as a suspect apparently, and whether or not he was Dan Cooper, I was still shocked to learn that he'd been living only like a 2 miles from me basically my whole life.

[@patrickthomas8890]

I think Cooper was an intelligent guy who researched parachuting and air travel, but overestimated his ability to actually parachute. Dunning-Kruger effect where he thought simply reading on something is enough to master it.

[@gmaureen]

Not too smart, he forgot about dressing for the weather.

[@DevilboyScooby]

Some questions: -Where is the rest of the money? Perhaps he exchanged it, abroad? - Could the first suspect have been wearing coloured contact lenses to make his eyes look brown?

[@itzmoney2369]

This is insane I’m doing a project in school about db copper Thank you!

[@SoulfulMafia]

This channel needs more subs. This guy deserves it. Like, I learn stuff, like the reactions - and he listens to us while creating FANTASTIC content. I wanna see you do his OG vids: "The Great Silence" or "The Legend of the Bermuda Triangle". Both are history. VLOG IT! Haha, love your chan!

[@TheRiehlThing42]

Flew the Portland to Seattle a couple years ago, on the way to Hawaii. Alaska used turboprop planes then, smaller planes. Short flight, about an hour.

[@davidwood8730]

Great reaction video. As I recall there was rash of similar incidents in the aftermath. None of these "copy cats" got away with their crimes and were captured soon after they jumped. I have always come down on the side of "he didn't make it." One of the main reasons was the bulk of the money was never found. It would seem like one of the bills would have been discovered by some bank. Hard to spend that much money. Also, he jumped in cold, rainy, windy conditions without proper clothing and into a vast forest. I would think no experienced sky diver would take that kind of risk. I think by now any trace of him in the forest would be long gone. And finally, why would you bury the money and leave it so long that it had become badly decayed?

[@dstinnettmusic]

Simple. You spend it over time either by paying big bills on small purchases. You pay $100 for a pack of gum. The clerk just checks if it is real, and it is real. So it goes in the bank and just gets lost because nobody is actually checking circulating currency. At this point the bills are just gone. Why bury money? In case he gets caught. He can say “oh I spent some of it”, he does his time, and in 20-40 years he goes to get the money. I think he made it and just laid low.

[@davidwood8730]

@@dstinnettmusic Lots of risk in spending lots of bills. A single marked bill could have unraveled his plan. The bills he buried decayed rapidly. Better to not them stay exposed to the elements for that long. There is no direct or circumstantial evidence he died, but nor is there any for his survival,

[@thunderbird7020]

You say you don’t think he made it, but then also mention the copycats who survived despite making jumps just as if not more dangerous. Martin McNally in particular made a jump in the same bad weather conditions without proper clothing, the plane was going over twice the speed of Coopers plane, and he had never used a parachute before (he actually needed help putting it on), but he still survived almost unharmed. If McNally and the others could survive, the idea Cooper couldn’t have survived is absurd (and in my opinion it makes it more likely than not he made it).

[@AdamJ11]

I’ve been hoping you would do this one for a while ! Edit: fantastic job! I’d agree that the last guy is the most likely

[@liambenn1214]

I highly recommend his video on the dyatlov pass case, it’s a very weird case and isn’t as cryptic as this or JTR, but it’s a cool case nonetheless

[@teddyo500]

I fully agree with you that the Lemmino videos are some of the best ever. Your reaction video to the Jack the Ripper series is some of my favorite content on this platform. I would love to see him or you do some videos on the MLK assassination. Seeing his animations of that block in Memphis and all of the different conspiracies for what exactly happened would be so interesting.

[@Killachow23]

I'm excited that you got back to some more of Lemmino's videos even if it meant going outside of your comfort zone. I can't wait for when you return to Historia Civilis for some more of Julius Caesar square edition as well.

[@NyikoDoris]

DB Cooper was actually a menace when you think about it lol

[@SandervkHistory]

What a documentary. I love these types of mysterious stories.

[@fandomonium3789]

As fun as it is to believe that DB Cooper survived the drop, he seems ill-equipped for the leap of faith. More importantly, we may never find the remains. The cash could have washed up on Tina Bar because Cooper landed in a lake or river and drowned. He could have landed in a tree, or in the forest. If he died out there, his bones could have been moved post-mortem by the wildlife eating him. He could have dropped the money, leading to his body and the money ending up in different locations. Unless DB Cooper comes forward on his deathbed with proof and explaining how it went down, I'm just under the impression that nature probably covered up any trace of him. And the Pacific Northwest is a very thickly forested area. Even if he did survive, it probably would have taken him days to reach any town. And with no set route for the plane to take, he only cared about escape, not meeting up with co-conspirators. Thus ruling out that someone was waiting for him or that he could have had a stash of clothes, rations, etc. waiting for him. As such, I believe DB Cooper perished in 1971, and any traces of him are likely miles off course somewhere in the wilderness of the Pacific Northwest. And likely nothing short of a methodical combing of the area by a large group of people working together will ever find any evidence of his landing zone.

[@ethanabraham6830]

Love these reactions!

[@coxmosia1]

You are some best stuff on KZbin, Chris! Keep it going. Also, D.B. Cooper was Loki from the "Avengers." 🤣🤣🤣

[@occheermommy]

I saw a documentary about Christianson and he had some beef with the airline at the time. They were messing with schedules or something. And there was a niece who remembers odd behavior around the time of that Thanksgiving where he came to her house injured and agitated. He’s my number one choice although I haven’t heard of this last guy. He’s interesting.

[@sevendst19]

This is a really interesting video and I suggested he do one on Amelia Earhardt and the theories of what may have happened to her when she tried to fly around the world and got lost somewhere in the south Pacific. He did a video on that flight that got lost about 7 or 8 years ago in southeast Asia that they think crashed in the Indian Ocean somewhere after mysteriously going off course. His videos are always great watches and his analysis is always thought provoking and interesting.

[@MrAlsachti]

@7:35 That's the first time I hear he asked for the aft staircase to be lowered *before* takeoff. To me, that's the strongest indication that the guy was not a professional skydiver, because as I understand it, temperatures aloft were so low it was even dangerous to attempt a jump.

[@gr0sseg0sse]

Is it me? But our host looks like the DB Cooper composite portrait. I usually don't like React videos but this Chanel is excellent. Keep up the good work.

[@KayWhyCommando]

It was so cool to see you react to this video in particular! My personal interest in Dan Cooper matches your interest in Jack the Ripper. This video covered it pretty well, I'd say. In my personal opinion, I'd say that there's only a partial chance that Cooper survived... but if he did, I'm almost certain it was William J. Smith. There's so much evidence pointing to him, but not in that "ideal" way like Francis Tumblety supposedly collecting body parts would. Between the physical description, the metal pulled from the tie, and his grudge against the airline industry, he definitely fits.

[@mounibagha3089]

41:11 “lameeno” ; fair enough he clearly said he can’t pronounce his name Few seconds later: says it perfectly trying to say let me know XD goes to show what we are capable of doing when we don’t put emphasis on it.

[@CodyChepa88]

Been waiting for this 👍Jack the Ripper was great so happy this was next

[@Bryan_____]

The D.B Cooper case was one of the first unsolved mysteries I was fascinated by when I was younger, I’ve definitely gone down the rabbit hole on this case lol.