THE KILLER CLOWN: JOHN WAYNE GACY

[@TaylerJoe]

The big reminder here too is… the cops did NOT want to hear about any form of gay happenings in the 70s, so when there were reports of gay sexual violence and murder, it wasn’t taken as seriously as other cases. That’s another reason why Gacy got away with so much.

[@AMMA83]

If he was black (and his victims were white), best believe police would have responded to it differently gay killings or not.

[@vyzee404]

this is exactly what I was thinking! so so sad :(

[@gabrielaivanovva]

So sad to hear this and to know that is actually the truth...

[@roryslaine7896]

Jeffrey Dahmer, too. One of escaped and approached the police and they brought him back to Dahmers house. He was like 15/16 I believe. I feel guilty for not remembering his name, sorry about that.

[@indiatanner3812]

that’s so scary to think about, imagine how many murders went unnoticed because of this:(

[@EmmanezerScrooge]

I love how Eleanor is careful with her sympathy. She shows sympathy for the innocent child, not the killer that child became.

[@emyoggie]

Perfectly worded!!!

[@eren34558]

There's a huge difference between explaining and justifying

[@karak962]

I really appreciate it 😭😭😭 I was abused as a child and I really appreciate the kindness towards childhood him, yet appropriately horrified by him as an adult.

[@cchowder12xd90]

Ikr, that’s why she’s my favorite true crime youtuber

[@sylverscale]

I'm sad for the boy, and it also makes you wonder how different he may have turned out without his terrible father. That's of course not an excuse for what he did in the slightest. You can definitely feel sympathy for an innocent child and still be horrified by the adult he became.

[@stephaniecason]

A woman I used to work with has an uncle who used to mow John Wayne Gacy’s lawn when he was about 15-16. She said that John would always invite him inside for lemonade but he always declined saying he needed to get home to take care of his mom. Crazy to think that he could have been a victim of this sick man.

[@aliveandconnected]

He most certainly would have. I'm glad he was aware enough to say no.

[@zunairafaiz372]

im so happy he said no

[@Borse53]

What a convenient story, I call bull on it

[@kickingkidsisentertaining4871]

god bless him for being able to dodge that bullet, he 100% would have been atleast a thought for gacy, luckily he made it out

[@bellissimoqwinn]

@@Borse53 does it matter?

[@hayhay713]

The fact that, as a child, Gacy was very protective of his sisters and mother, taking beatings for them so they could be safe, but then he went on to hurt people worse than his father ever did. It’s just wild to me that he could feel that much sympathy and love to keep his mother and sisters safe but he couldn’t feel any of it not even a bit of it towards these innocent boys.

[@MooooonDemon]

it's because abuse messes you up in the head also he probably got demonic parasites from the first guy who sxually abused him

[@bicckedoff]

i agree and that is why the mind of a sociopathic serial killer is difficult to understand. i have too much empathy and emotional connections with the people i hurt even unintentionally.

[@Jaime-PaigeKnowles]

Again anti social personality disorder

[@solbug]

he treated them the way he was made to feel by his own father. but much worse, physically. unfortunately that can happen when victims reperpetuate the cycle of abuse

[@Tiarose444]

This is pure police neglect. I can’t count how many times this man could / should have been stopped.

[@MidnightMuffin]

@@zardozy That and the justice system in general is trash.

[@okoeymuey2105]

@@MidnightMuffin especially here in denmark

[@minioncat5222]

@Beaver of the Pola how is the police letting out a child rap!st early from prison and ignoring/dropping cases against him for the same thing NOT police neglect 💀

[@katrinaallan2468]

@beaverofthepola2071 what are you saying? that its some how okay for the police to be completely neglectful, ignoring leads and blindly believing someone without proper investigation, just because thats how the system works in America? quite backwards thinking in my opinion, if the system isn't protecting people then surely critiquing it is valid. I dont think its indicative of a lack of understanding.

[@ClownDoggo]

@beaverofthepola2071yes they literally did they were told straight tf up that John was assaulting people from his damn victims and they didn’t do shit. Stop defending terrible shitty police it says a lot about you and it’s disgusting

[@kenzierobidoux2131]

Thank you for giving all 33 victims the spotlight they deserved! The amount of times this case has been covered, but sadly not all the boys last moments were shared. Thank you for taking the time to share their stories Eleanor. You are seriously an angel!

[@Justacutevoid]

Agreed !!

[@LunaaaVeld]

I completely agree! They’re Justice was served and may they all Rest In Peace.

[@chloe-zk9jw]

the misunderstanding in the first victim made my heart drop, that poor boy just wanted to thank him. my heart goes out to the victims and their families.

[@ginmybeloved8291]

Makes you think if that misunderstanding never happened how many lives could’ve been saved, but chances are he was lying to make himself seem more sympathetic

[@chloe-zk9jw]

@@ginmybeloved8291 i agree, theres a chance that none of that would've ever even happened, but i doubt it. john was still a sick man and i dont think that wouldve stopped him.

[@Kai-qg1cq]

I know right

[@laurapadfoot9128]

It obviously wasn't a misunderstanding.. just an excuse

[@ginmybeloved8291]

@@laurapadfoot9128 true but there’s still a chance, he was a heavily deluded man

[@dybfsegungtds]

The fact that the 16 year old guy wasn’t even going to kill him, he was just trying to show his thankfulness for letting him stay by cooking breakfast is just SO heartbreaking

[@teddybear3779]

Yea

[@PhoenixPlays669]

But WHY would he stand in the hallway with a knife I think John made it up so he could get sympathy and paint himself as a victim

[@Tess_wright]

That made me so sad I was actually frowning and stuff I felt so bad for him

[@elijahsesi4755]

Pretty sure that fat ass made that bit up. He probably tried to R word that kid and killed him when he resisted.

[@lowennastarkie6721]

Ik I found that so sadd 😢

[@baguettesarenice]

You’ve blessed us with a 3 HOUR VIDEO?!!!! You’re literally godsend Eleanor

[@blueside4496]

SHES AMAZING ☁️💕

[@asteryia]

FRRR

[@lewaddell]

RIGHT?!

[@EryberrieTrueCrime]

She's the reason I started my own True Crime channel. She's awesome!

[@hm-nf5gw]

Well it has been like a month

[@atinyofficial]

Im so happy to FINALLY see someone who doesnt defend his fathers actions because he was a veteran. There is absolutely no excuse for abusing your children. None.

[@amaude]

I'm not sure what videos you've watched but I can imagine we've probably had a bit of overlap. In the videos i've seen, the violent and horrific actions of jwg's father is always put in the context of explaining why he may have gone on to abuse his children amongst what was likely many other reasons. I've studied psychology at a relatively foundational level, and it's to my understanding that psychologists seek to explain and predict behaviour in order to make the case for preventing it e.g. via reducing economic inequality, stamping prejudice e.t.c. The link between jwg's father being a veteran, amongst other contextual factors specific to him, and the horrific abuse of his son is not a moral justification but instead a reflection on the consistently large body of literature that asserts that there are factors that often predict and have causal relationships to violence.

[@atinyofficial]

@@amaude yeah ive seen things like that but i have also watched videos and read articles where there was an attempt at justification for why jwg's dad abused him. In terms of psychological explanation and connection, i get that its absolutely not the same as justifying the horrific acts, im not talking about that part, just the people who attempt to justify it in some way. It makes me upset to see the glorification and ascendancy of veterans Also im not trying to sound rude at all! :)

[@ericpintor9780]

@@atinyofficial I agree with both takes but unfortunately at that time, mental health was not readily available and the "machismo", for a lack of words right now, was the norm. May be...may be not...?

[@ericpintor9780]

@@atinyofficial mental health support for PTSD or issues like that. I hope that makes sense

[@starjudd5889]

@@amaude k Pm

[@chikinkaka328]

The police failed these boys. How can this man have been brought in for questioning so many times, and let go.

[@sav4356]

Soo many accusations as well if they kept him in jail where he belonged multiple life’s could’ve been saved

[@Kloetenhenne]

i can't believe it, either. incredibly dumb.

[@thehappyrecluse]

I've heard that it had to do a lot with homophobia and not wanting to investigate or not caring about crimes that involved anything perceived as gay. Really sad, they absolutely failed the boys because of their own positive bias toward Gacy and/or their prejudice against anything or anyone perceived as gay.

[@arshiaaghaei]

Tbf the second kid was stupid for trying to blackmail him. Doesn't justify shit tho

[@kokomhie1809]

true, poor boys

[@crayons1584]

It's so ironic to see serial killers not wanting to get the death penalty. It's so sick to see them fighting to stay alive after all of the lives they've taken

[@Cupidssatan]

Ikr, it’s such a double standard. He took so many lives - *innocent lives*. And yet he throws his dummy out the pram at the death penalty when his life deserves to be taken from him.

[@stephsvids9812]

Tbh I think we’d rather them not die and instead them stay behind bars for the rest of their lives, the death penalty seems good for people like this, but it’s not, they don’t str*ngle and r*pe him like John would his victims, *NOT SUGGESTING THEY SHOULD OMG NO IM NOT SAYING THAT* it’s just they just inject him and he dies, there’s not nearly enough pain as his victims, idk i just think it’s wrong and just to prevent him from either being beaten to death by other inmates or k*lling himself

[@Maceymistick]

It’s so weird that Americans give like a 600 year sentence why not life..?

[@von0312]

@@Maceymistick life is only like 15 years or so, depending on state. it would get confusing. we do it that way so it's compiling the sentence for all of their crimes.

[@314nc4]

@@von0312 but why is not 15 years called 15 years and life is life ))) makes no sense

[@MaribelGonzalez-fs8iz]

The first murder made my heart sink when Eleanor described that it was basically a misunderstanding poor kid :(

[@chelseaarmstrong2371]

Mine too. He just wanted to thank him for the start but got killed instead :(

[@skysix5733]

I don’t know how much I believe that story (not blaming Eleanor). Just seems a very Gacy like story to “justify” the murder, or at least keep him from having to say “I’m a murderous scumbag who never takes responsibility for anything”. I may be wrong.

[@Dshii]

That was so hard breaking :((

[@fixongki]

it was jaw dropping, so upsetting

[@witchy90210]

@@skysix5733 That story seems to be extremely consistent all the times that I have heard it. I dont think it justifies anything, if it was a story to try and do that it wouldnt necessarily have such a sad ending with the realization that it was a misunderstanding. It doesnt sound like an excuse in my opinion. That doesnt excuse anything though, its just sad.

[@xxDeeMmmVeexx]

*Leaves for two months; comes back with a three hour video.* Eleanor… there’s a reason you have people coming back, it’s cause you consistently SERVE. You’re a queen.

[@luther1546]

very simpy comment. so siiiiimpy.....

[@ttvlexzoo]

@@luther1546 ????

[@shoe777]

@@luther1546 huh

[@tx_h]

@@luther1546 wdym its appreciation??

[@decomposedfaerie]

@@luther1546 very cringey comment. so criiiiiiingey...

[@sapphictoadstool]

eleanor having to constantly correct herself, saying boys rather than men is heartbreaking. hopefully one day those five boys will be identified and brought justice. much love great video

[@emilylala]

it makes me so upset that if he never admitted to these crimes then most of them would've never been solved. :(

[@nisse3973]

The chances of them being identified after all this time is almost nothing. Their dna is probably long gone. They would maybe be able to do sketches of how they would've looked like then and now, but unfortunately, their families will probably never know what happened to them or why they disappeared 😥 though I believe some of them put two and two together and just thought their son must've been a victim of John Wayne Gacy, especially if they know for a fact their kid wouldn't just run away for no reason.

[@Corasz]

@@nisse3973 not true... dna testing also is getting better years by years. usually the dna is degraded but they can still work with it. murder victims from the 80s are getting identified even more often nowadays, there are multiple companies solely dedicated on identifying people through genealogy. one of gacys victims was identified in 2021

[@osvaldomolina6602]

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[@fabulousroy]

I love that she takes the time to name every single one of the victims. It's like, making sure their memory lives on by keeping their names heard. ❤

[@tsundor1]

it is quite respectful. and when you give the victims names and faces, you can't look at it as a story separate from real life

[@heyitzmae]

i love how eleanor never romanticizes the killers, she always characterizes them exactly the way they were and tells the story like it was without embellishing it with a bunch of useless details

[@samymartinez9375]

Same I don’t like how the other people tell the crime because they give useless details that don’t have anything to do with the crime

[@BB-bw8tk]

er except her titles and thumbnails lol

[@Annie-oo4yk]

@@BB-bw8tk You mean the nicknames for the killers?

[@pooch6933]

@@BB-bw8tk the titles are just the nicknames the killers got,,, it’s an easy way for those curious to find them,,, she can’t control what the nicknames are

[@heyitzmae]

@@BB-bw8tk to be entirely fair you have to play the youtube game to succeed and this is her job. also her thumbnails aren’t that glorified, they’re usually just her face with the killer there

[@carolineb6054]

I have heard the story of John Wayne Gacy many times and was curious to see how you tackled this case; didn't think I would stay with you to the end. Instead, you are the first person to humanise his victims, rather than.concentrating on the man himself. Thank you Eleanor for giving such an honest account.

[@RockRoamer7]

Agreed. My husband knew his last victim but if we say his name everyone says 'who?'... you say Gacy and everyone knows him. It's nice to see people focus on those who really deserve the attention.

[@amymckay23]

Humanising victims even though she didn’t even know what the first victim that she talked about in her cases name was?

[@marissam3176]

@@amymckay23 She did though. Timothy McCoy.

[@amymckay23]

@@marissam3176 the first victim talked about in the case…

[@chloe-sl7mh]

I feel so much sympathy for the little boy he was but absolutely none for the man that he became, people can go through immense trauma but don't do the horrific things he chose to.

[@l0veJxke]

Ikr he did what he learned from his absolute disgusting father I feel bad for him no one should hate him bc all his life he was abused and tortured

[@catman1048]

Exactly what I was going to say…

[@samih5916]

I totally agree.

[@whatamelon888]

i really like how you separated him. i was worried bc i felt sympathy and anger and i didnt know what to do, but it clears things up now when you separate him from child to adult 💕

[@RealmsMedia]

Right? If he had any kind of empathy, he would have tried to address his urges before it went too far.

[@daguard411]

I was working as a prison guard in Illinois on the night Gacy was executed. I worked a Med-Max security camp, and the State was worried of inmate riots and the like, so every camp that is Medium or above went "Lock Down," meaning all the inmates were locked in their cells. I had to work a double shift because the worry of a riot also worried the staff. I got quite the laugh when the report that Gacy was dead came out. I had 112 inmates on my deck, and the cheering was so loud I had to cover my ears.

[@karlamonique3265]

I’m pretty sure the Devil 😈 was clapping 👏🏻 as well…welcome home @sshole!!!!

[@johnsun6418]

Just out of curiosity , from everything I have seen on American prisons, child predators are the most hunted, and despised inmates, How did Gacy get popular with other inmates, enough to start his own club inside etc etc

[@daguard411]

@@johnsun6418 Well, when he got sent to Death Row, he wasn't. I have never really understood how he did develop a following, or rather, being held in high regard, in his first prison stint. Yet I assure you that in IL. Death Row, he wasn't. I have worked with guys that had contact with Gacy while he was on the Row and they said that all he did was whine and protest that though he had 33 bodies in his crawl space, he was innocent and he was filing appeals on everything. On Death Row in IL. you are single celled and you have NO contact with others unless you are fully restrained. You don't leave your cell unless you are handcuffed and if there is only one escort guard, they are wearing leg irons. If they kill someone else, their execution date is put off until the latest murder trial is concluded.

[@johnsun6418]

@@daguard411 thanks for clarifying. I just find it hard to believe he was popular, knowing what he was convicted for. During his first stint.

[@marthabaggins4969]

@@johnsun6418 In America (depending on the state) child predators are given a ‘cover story crime’ when they go to prison to protect them; I’m assuming that’s what happened. It’s likely his fellow inmates were ignorant first time around

[@camjohnson3389]

You don’t have to go into details but it made me feel so happy and relieved just hearing you say everything is okay and that you’re back. Welcome back, queen!

[@BlindGirlVlogs]

Yes me too. I was wondering where she was and I was getting a little worried and hoping everything was okay. Now I'm looking forward to diving into this case with her. :-).

[@em_dose_art_6222]

@@BlindGirlVlogs same

[@PoetLoui]

Same . I nearly screamed tonight because I too had been genuinely concerned. 🙏👍

[@ktinaval]

im so happy she's back and okay

[@alexishall1209]

Same! I just found her like a month and a half ago then was worried she wasn’t gonna come back after I’d binged and gotten obsessed with her videos lol. Anyway, VERY glad she’s back and with a 3 hour video🙌🏼

[@Stephh99]

2:04:00 my heart DROPPED when Eleanor mentioned the breakfast components...that poor boy. That is so freaking sad

[@ishamalik1483]

me too, its so upsetting

[@Kai-qg1cq]

It made my heart drop thats so sad

[@Sophia-ll9mb]

I know that broke my heart in a Million pieces

[@mihraz47]

Y'all actually believed him?

[@bionikc]

It's disgusting to me that someone like that gets the courtesy of living a long life and having a final meal when all of his victims didn't get to have that with their families. Fantastic video.

[@thatxxweirdxequestrianxx6999]

Agreed. I think death was way to good for him, in my opinion he should have been in prison ALL his life and left to rot. Because adrenaline pumps through you when you die (meaning you probably won't feel pain, like his victims did)

[@trashpanda3544]

I can't understand why his family would even want a final meal with him after everything he did. My cousin raped 2 children and that was enough for me to disown him completely. You couldn't pay me to attend a final meal with him let alone a serial killer. Don't get me wrong, it is hard to accept that a family member you were close to could do such horrible things, it's almost like they died and you're grieving the loss of the person you thought you knew. My cousin was like a brother to me. Even so he isn't my cousin anymore, that person is dead to me and all that's left is a child rapist and I'm not going to nor will I ever give them my time again.

[@ronakshah1990]

Anyone else find it unsettling that in the clown photo at 57:38, his balloon says "Bresler's ice-cream 33 flavours" and he ended up killing at least 33 kids?

[@Mialxveee]

omg i only just realised that.. terrifying. (yes i come back to re-watch this video 1 year later)

[@ridley_grace]

the fact that this 15 year old boy who was not only heavily intoxicated but had a hurt ankle managed to flip a grown man over in the air AND beat the crap out of him!!!

[@KyyEliza]

And that’s on adrenaline

[@cici.ngxenge]

Love that for him. Felt like a proud mom at that point.

[@maisalohay1593]

I always was afraid to have daughter now im also afraid to have a son 💔😭

[@oishyundai]

makes me think... what happens when i have kids and they flip me over every time i tell them to clean their rooms

[@Ocean58492]

[@a.terterli1659]

It astounds me that, being sentenced for sexually assaulting a child, he had a good life in prison. I don't know how that works in other countries but in mine, if any inmates find out that someone was there for ANY sort of crime involving a minor, they would give that person hell on earth, because even among most violent criminals, crimes against children are deemed the most heinous and frowned upon.

[@lc4351]

Typically in the US that's what happens to it's actually weird to me that it didn't in this case but then again who knows what didn't get shown not from Eleanor but from the prison itself not wanting to share any bad press about jw getting assaulted in jail

[@TwoWitchyMoons]

Yeah in the US you're going to catch hell for doing anything to women and children. Especially in a men's prison, where most of them miss and are protective of their kids, wives/girlfriends and mothers.

[@maddyholloway3947]

Yessss that is how it is in the US as well and it’s such a surprise

[@abigailwollam6894]

That’s still the case. I work in corrections (treatment-focused) and I knew one person who had charges for harming children and while obviously the others didn’t attack him because they had too much to lose and didn’t want to add time to their sentence, he was still treated very poorly by the other criminals. Making “head chef” doesn’t mean much since a lot of criminals incarcerated have histories with drugs so there’s a higher chance they’ll have Hep-C, which would disqualify kitchen work.

[@thedogthatlived8649]

@@lc4351 yea in the us inmates will jump them and kill them and usually it’s the guards who tip off the inmates. So they have to be kept in confinement if it gets out what they did. Source: step dad is a medic for the county jail and prison

[@shay_impala]

Poor Timothy, man. What a lovely little boy, just trying to thank someone for helping him at his lowest and he ended up dying a brutal death because of his kindness. He was probably so confused. My heart hurts so badly for him.

[@Nutty-x9o]

Agreed,I started tearing up listing on what happened to him

[@debs6730]

yep! my exact thought 💔

[@mihraz47]

I don't think that story even happened. Gacy isn't exactly fitted to be a reliable narrator. He's full of it .

[@adamg1234]

You are an amazingstory teller. It's so heartbreaking going through each victim but you do it with such care and empathy. Poor victims and their families. This whole story from beginning to end is a tragedy.

[@v.ra.]

Nobody owes strangers on the internet any explanation of what they have been up to during their summer hiatus. Even if these internet strangers help said individuals pay their bills. We're delighted Eleanor is back, shiningly beautiful as always. Normalise creators taking long breaks from social media while dealing with their personal growth / struggles/ human existence

[@joannab7504]

Well said 🥰

[@Libby_May]

100% agree. Got a little scared tho...

[@UpsetParsley]

Yep.

[@Sidraughen]

That's just how the internet is. So many on youtube expect the creators to entertain them and not have a private life. If they don't get their weekly video they get angry and unsubscribe.

[@drbubblebutt7074]

Agreed

[@Sam-mo2lk]

Before their death , all the victims suffered horrors of their lives and at last got painful death without ever getting a chance to see their loved ones again whereas the murderer gets a nice meal, a chance to see his family and a painless death. I am just speechless at how messed up is that. Kindness should be shown to humans not monsters.

[@wandacole5784]

Gacy used too much torture on these poor boys.

[@Purplishous555]

At least we can say that we didn’t stoop to his level. If his death sentence had even an ounce of the same cruelty jwg was capable of, some people might have felt bad for him. He died a monster, not a martyr.

[@Sam-mo2lk]

@@Purplishous555 Yeah but the royale treatment he got like getting to go on a picnic, and a nice meal wasn't necessary at all.

[@geekgirl_luv4262]

No matter how horrible a person is we should still treat them humanely, not because we think they deserve it, but because it’s who we are. We should uphold our own principles and morality no matter who the person we’re dealing with is. But also yeah, ethical debates aside, fuck that guy. I still don’t believe in the death penalty, but I can’t exactly say I feel bad for him.

[@itssamari]

@@geekgirl_luv4262 He should’ve got tortured how he tortured those boys. You don’t fucking treat a person like that as a human being. Idc

[@MissSkyscraper]

The two survivors who overpowered him when he tried to rape them made me so happy. But those rape survivors and murder victims make me so sad :(. I’ve heard of this killer before, but I never watched a video on him until now. There’s no one else I would rather have cover the story than the lovely, kind Eleanor herself. We missed you and thank you for the hard work you and your team did to make this such a great educational experience!

[@lilyspencer2585]

i’ve watched so many videos and documentaries about him but i’ve heard so many new things from eleanor’s video than any of the videos i’ve watched lol

[@AssEater00]

Hah 666 likes 😂😂😂

[@rookiewolf4499]

There's a Netflix documentary about him. Conversations with A Killer: The John Wayne Gacy Tapes

[@lilyspencer2585]

yessss i watched that n even eleanor’s video had so much more info in it (in my opinion)

[@rookiewolf4499]

@@lilyspencer2585 this is the very first time i'm watching Eleanor's videos. This is so much better than Netflix's documentary.

[@sabrinaaa___]

I love how Eleanor doesn’t just focus on the murderer but the victims as well an important detail most people look over it honestly make people understand the case so much better

[@Shiba_Draws]

I know right! She explains It so that they're not just another number or another victim

[@bloodybee3553]

In my Criminal Psychology class, we had to do a report on a serial killer. I got saddled with Ed Gein. However, it was a requirement that we include a paragraph about at least one victim. My teacher always wanted us to remember the victims. In fact, he even described crim psych 1 as "statistically, 4 out of 5 people will be a victim of violent crime at one point in their life. This class is to make sure you are the 1 who isn't."

[@fringe9068]

I love that Eleanor is covering viral cases lately. Yes they’re on every channel but her story telling is enjoyable

[@briellabrown7563]

And everyone has a different way of telling it, sometimes with info we haven't heard.

[@mercedesxo9024]

i actually considered not watching this one, as i’ve heard this case covered a few times but every video she’s done has been brilliant! plus i’ve learned more about the case in this video than others. her research is fantastic.

[@Justazraa]

It’s horrifying that these boys had their lives taken away from them at such a young age. It genuinely scares me since I am currently around the same age as most of them at the time of the murders and the fact that these kids could have grown up to be amazing people with separate lives, if it had not taken away from them by such a horrible person. May they rest in peace

[@savannnnnnah]

ikr, i live in ohio (i believe his house was in Illinois) and i'm a teen as well (well, 17) chills to my core. i'm so heartbroken for the families :( especially the mom who lost her son on her birthday

[@denniswilson5720]

I'm not a teen but it is sad to think how different does young men's lives could have been if it wouldn't have been for this one man and his evil deeds

[@bewilderedbasset99]

My mother is a mystery author (and is OBSESSED with true crime) so I've heard this story a million times, but the way you tell it is so interesting!

[@HessahAlHendi]

I totally agree with you. Eleanor’s way of explaining the case is excellent. Would you mind sharing the writings of your mother. I am interested in reading mysteries novels.

[@bewilderedbasset99]

@@HessahAlHendi Sure! Her name is Joanna Schaffhausen, she writes mystery novels for adults :) they're also available in audiobook form if you'd like

[@bunny23275]

@@bewilderedbasset99 I’ve heard of your mom before! My momma loved her stories

[@exdianas]

@@bewilderedbasset99 let her know for me that she's a gorgeous woman!

[@bewilderedbasset99]

@@exdianas will do, good to know she's got fans lol

[@refinnej5302]

My dad's friend's son was a victim of Gacy's. It tore them up inside and out. Because of this, my parents were even more strict than they would have been. As an adult, I don't blame them. There was a serial killer abducting children/teens in our own community and the cops could have stopped it sooner, but didn't. A friend of my step dad's is believed to be one of his victims too. He disappeared around the same time and lived the next town over. He worked construction and was a juvenile delinquent so the cops didn't care that he was missing. This story haunted the entire Chicagoland area. You know evil people exist, but you never realize just how evil another human can be.

[@mika9383]

You know, you dads friends son could be one of 5 unidentified victims. So your information you just provided might as well be helpful to the case.

[@teetee7049]

Theres a website where you can submit the information of anyone who went missing around that time that you believe could be one of his unidentified victims. Its fairly easy to find online if you have a look. They might not have ever looked into or known about him.

[@Ocean58492]

[@LadyoftheLakes]

Each of those boys had stories, lives, thoughts, worries, favorite foods, best friends, favorite school subjects. To have all of this gone and nothing but a disrespected corpse left is horrifying. Each and every person he harmed mattered so much, each life was precious. That’s all I can think about with these stories. I can just think of these children, these babies.

[@faye5328]

I agree, all these boys were so handsome and had their own lives and hobbies and were normal people. It’s so sad that they had it all taken away by a horrible man. :(

[@amyy29]

honestly so true, they deserved to live a long happy life 💔

[@lyanlyan7718]

The photos of victims smiling and looking so bright broke my heart. And the stories of what they were doing when he abducted them, one of them was walking home from a Thanksgiving dinner 💔💔

[@tofu_pikachu3704]

I really appreciated how Eleanor named all the victims, even though it was very time consuming. Some true crimes channels don’t do that often.

[@EliasTheEmo]

The “I think this place is full of kids” is so unsettling to me

[@dawnf.1703]

I was 9 years old when JWG was arrested (we lived 30 minutes from where he lived) and I remember seeing the news report & my mother turning off the TV saying it was nothing we needed to know about. I have since seen other documentaries but this was truly excellent. I’m just grateful my Mom made sure I didn’t hear about this when I was a kid. He is truly the stuff of nightmares.

[@sourjellystarz]

It took me 2 days to watch this because I have to play it when my son isn't able to hear it. Def not for kids.

[@kunya16]

@@sourjellystarz I throw an earbud into one ear when my kids are around. Not when I'm actively engaged with them, because distractions, but when I'm cleaning and what not.

[@dartist079]

I live in the suburbs of Chicago. I remember this quite well it took place in the 1970s. Horrible. All of those kids who were victims. 😞

[@lixiu8654]

Girl, I have to got to give you MAD PROPS! I have never seen anyone collect this much in depth information about this story, you've told me basically the most details I have ever heard about this case! And someone has his brain, we have got to find this!! Curiosity for real!!! Great video, Queen!!

[@enderelise]

my jaw dropped when i saw it was 3 hours long. eleanor you’re a goddess thank you! glad to hear you’re okay we were worried

[@nadinekeating3255]

They actually thought that saying a grown adult man having "consensual" sex with minors was a good defense?? Most of his victims were too young to give consent.

[@jaimeturner349]

Eleanor, this is by far the most comprehensive and best coverage of John Wayne Gacy I have ever seen. Thank you so much to you and your team for all of your hard work and dedication.

[@amymckay23]

Um…she literally got the name of first victim that was mentioned wrong…quantity doesn’t equal quality…

[@FinallyBeingMyself]

@@amymckay23 dude. Stop. All of her information is publicly available and correct.

[@avabeth2535]

@@amymckay23 Um… people are allowed to make simple mistakes. You are not owed perfection, stranger.

[@amymckay23]

@@FinallyBeingMyself No it f**king isn’t…it isn’t correct. God, are you 12 years old?!

[@preciouslyunhinged]

THIS IS STRAIGHT UP EVIL,THE AMOUNT OF LUCK HE HAD AND HOW HE ESCAPED AND WASNT DETECTED FOR A LONG TIME,IS UNIMAGINABLE

[@GoddessDee94]

Was skeptical at first. Have heard this case many many times. However after watching your video I learned so much about him and his victims. It was super informative, well thought out and compassionate to his victims. Love this long video. I finished my crochet purse during this time. It was great for listening while I create. Keep up the lovely work and I’m glad your back. And not just back but back with a bang. Got me feeling spoiled

[@marissam3176]

I do appreciate that Eleanor talks more about the victims then other people do when she’s able too.

[@amymckay23]

Except she got the first victims name wrong…

[@jesemz5555]

Same!!

[@FinallyBeingMyself]

@@amymckay23 no she didn’t.

[@hartpartyof3910]

Yea I felt the same way and almost didn't click, but learned so much

[@kiearrabrown4815]

I’ve heard this case millions of times over again… yet I found out soooo much new information cause Eleanor went so in depth.

[@estianna76]

Same for me… I didn’t think there would be much I hadn’t heard before with this case, but apparently there was, in fact I learned quite a lot of new information from Eleanor’s video. Well done Eleanor, your time off is forgiven… A 3 hour video that was full of not only, lots of new info, but the delivery was fantastic too!! I can’t thank you enough!! 😊

[@mebutnotme.Khan78]

@@estianna76 same here too Amazing how much detail she goes into

[@tabi477]

7hklo

[@sarahkelly8020]

Please let this be a series, like once a month or once every couple months you do a video on a “famous” serial killer and go into this much detail 🥰 also I’m glad to see you back and smiling 🤍

[@loladownz5117]

I'm pretty sure it's based on the available information online.

[@Lucky_Gurl-Luna]

I hope she keep this up as well I enjoyed how detailed she is

[@emilylala]

@@loladownz5117 it is ☠️

[@brittanyschaos6510]

I have been so worried about you! I’m happy to know you’re ok 💜

[@gowrisuresh8091]

Same here glad she is doing well

[@maevocado1246]

I would like to correct one thing as I’ve also done extensive research on him for a school assignment: There is actually no proof that he ever killed in the Pogo costume. Pogo was believed to be a comfort to John, not some Hyde to his Jekyll. Some show he could put on for fun, to escape the trauma, the murderous thoughts, his mental health *in general* and everything else that made this man do what he did.

[@ileanarenoir9839]

When Eleanor said that, I was really confused, bc I'd never heard it anywhere else....

[@lc4351]

Yeah when she said that I was like wait did some new evidence come out that I wasn't aware of cuz as far as I knew he had never killed in the costume or at least we never we didn't know for sure. Had had to pull up the old Google. Great video tho

[@nrey3904]

Finished my Master of Science in forensics this month. The clown costume was something thrown in by the media. It actually had very little to do with the case. The majority of the tragedy was the inattention of the police due to homophobia. If the police in the area had been more proactive I believe many of the victims would’ve lived their natural lives

[@Butchcub75]

@@nrey3904 that can also be applied to Kraft, Bonin, Kearney, Corll, Eyller, and the other serial killers of homosexuals. And let’s not forget prostitutes and drug users; cops didn’t care about them either. What was Ridgeway’s total , 49? With up to 70 possible. Then there’s Samuel Little who’s count is almost double. Awesome career choice btw!

[@nrey3904]

@@Butchcub75 my term paper examined the pickton case/ MMIW in Vancouver’s east side. A complete systematic failure. He was operating at the same time as ridgway. He claims to have killed 49 women, 26 confirmed only prosecuted for 6. So if you add up what was going on during that time- it’s an absolute nightmare statistic. I think it’s so important for us to realize these people were simply evil but there was no genius. There was systematic neglect. Thank you! I’m still freshly graduated… now to the next step (the real hard part) ;)

[@itsasecret9033]

Having a younger brother who is 16...I cannot tell you the rage I am feeling. These poor boys. They were so awfully young, bright, and this evil evil man took pleasure in depriving them of the life they deserved. If I had ever came across Gacy, or his equivalent, you can be goddamn sure he'd get what's coming to him.

[@ksenias5123]

I’ve heard this story at least three times already but never in such detail!! Thank you and your team for such hard work and welcome back ❤️

[@felicitygreen1371]

right? i almost didnt watch it but I’m glad i did

[@mossydino]

“Sorry for being gone for so long” girl you gave us a 3 hour video- you can take as much time off as you want lol Really love your videos (literally have watched almost all of them, some multiple times) and I just don’t want you to brun yourself out with too much work! Take as much time as you need

[@andreashelton]

We dont even need a sorry

[@missuperior7426]

Yeah I’m rewatching cause I’ve watched them all but sometimes I see a video I’ve never seen pop up literally love it

[@Mollexi]

I couldn’t help but let out a little gasp and a “yay” seeing that you uploaded. We missed you queen! 💜

[@marycarman9406]

Same

[@rachealniles8723]

Me too luv

[@youmna5070]

SAME BAHAHHA

[@ArtTasticCreations]

Very tragic for all of the victims. May they rest in peace. His wives and kids dodged a major bullet though! I wonder how they felt when they learned all of that about their father/ husband. Must have been surreal.

[@sleepyjoe6106]

i love how shes so detailed about the victims, faces, names and all. it just brings another light to it all, just hearing about the murderer doesnt make you realise how absolutely sad it really is until you see the innocent faces of the people he murdered. and the way they died, each and every one of them, its heartbreaking

[@negar9396]

Fr ... Just look at that 15 year old last victim's face and you'll realize how evil one could be to take his life away

[@negar9396]

Fr ... Just look at that 15 year old last victim's face and you'll realize how evil one could be to take his life away

[@negar9396]

Fr ... Just look at that 15 year old last victim's face and you'll realize how evil one could be to take his life away

[@emmiekdr]

OMG WE HAVE MISSED YOU SO MUCH. SO GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK!

[@Jax-AK]

I got diagnosed with depression and anxiety today, this definitely will lighten my day, my day always gets 10x better when you upload

[@pinacolada3952]

Love you're so damn fine 😀❤️❤️

[@Mylilloki]

I’ve had depression and anxiety diagnosed since around 2010, so I feel you. I also hope you know you’re not alone. It can be terrifying but you’re not alone. Hydrate, eat, sleep, make sure you’re putting YOU first. I take it day by day so I don’t overwhelm myself. Nothing but positivity to you. 🖤

[@Jax-AK]

@@Mylilloki thank you, I’ve been struggling with this since I was 6, I’m currently I’m in my early teens. I got officially diagnosed today. I’ve been suspecting this for over a year but today I got my official diagnosis

[@syd_cheshire]

Damn I’m so sorry to hear that bro, I hope things get better for you. My mom has depression and anxiety, so I know it’s gonna be hard. But it will get easier as time goes on. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@dallyahwd9517]

I’ve been living with anxiety and depression for over 40 years. Hang in there-you are stronger than you think!!❤️❤️

[@haileybalmer9722]

Something that’s a little bit of a relief in this case is that we occasionally find men that were thought to likely be Gacy’s victims alive and well. They found one alive and well in Oregon in 2011, and another in Montana in 2013. It’s a small victory, but it’s good to know those two boys, at least, are safe.

[@Idakp]

The fact that the police accepted the story about them being lovers is disgusting, considering the massive age difference.

[@bethfletcher1581]

They did the same with Jeff Dahmer and returned a 14 year old boy to his house! Which led to his murder 😞

[@AmyAberrant]

The police were probably up to the same thing

[@nataliezdrazilova4493]

⁠@@bethfletcher1581 I honestly think the Konerak case was worst in a way? The police not only returned the boy to Dahmer without seeing any ID, but didnt look around the flat at all and disregarded what 3? Or more ppl who tried to protect the boy sayin Hey he isnt 18, he is bleeding, non responsive… and also his brother was killed by Dahmer not so long ago… these were two horrific tragedies that happend to one family in such a short period of time…

[@maiasanders3691]

@beaverofthepola2071 ???

[@Shiba_Draws]

I mean, its around the same time as Jeffrey Dahmer did this stuff, and police did the same with a 14 year old boy that Dahmer killed, so doesnt surprise me

[@angielee7945]

I was starting to panic cause I've swept through nearly every video on this channel in the past two months, but my prayers have been answered. So happy you're back xx

[@roryslaine7896]

Obviously all these deaths are tragic, but there's something that really gets to me when you hear their bodies have never been identified. 50 years on and that young man practically died with no name, or with family who died without the closure of ever being able to bury them.

[@LunaaaVeld]

Ikr it’s very hard for me to think about that bc that’s just to horrible to imagine. Having your child missing and never found. Absolutely horrible

[@janaiolson2948]

I grew up in Illinois right near des plains in the 90s and the amount that people talked about John Wayne Gavey telling kids to be careful talking to strangers and the like was crazy. This man terrified the community for YEARS. I actually went to preschool just down the road from the prison where he kept. People went nuts when he was executed.

[@animelytical8354]

It was concerning when I got an hour in and it hadn't gotten murderous. This video is structured very, very well. I started getting queasy at the thought of 30 murders having happened over the span of the story you told spectacularly. I expected a few murders at some point, but my goodness. Terrifying. Might be the worst I've heard.

[@kileyblake5512]

I was seriously having Eleanor withdrawals! Welcome back, looking beautiful as always! 💕 I'm so happy you're covering this case, there are a million other youtubers out there with videos on this man but you honestly are the only one who dives into depths and the rawness of these cases. You don't glamorize or idolize anything, it's so refreshing. You giving these victims their own spotlight and a voice instead of glazing over them is the best part. You are truly an angel Eleanor, please keep doing what you're doing!

[@lilliecooper7263]

me and you both😭🫶🏻

[@ConCorner]

For everyone wondering, PROBATION is an alternative to prison time, where the person is monitored, not allowed out at certain times, ect. PAROLE happens after prison, the rules are similar, but here you get to be free-ish instead of being in prison for the rest of your sentence.

[@cici.ngxenge]

Both are an easy way out, it bothers me so much for a criminal like this guy to be granted those

[@cerievans1980]

Thank you for explaining, think it’s different In the uk, that’s probably why she was not sure, I think here after prison your on parole, but out on probation or licence and that’s the term most often used. Xx

[@AineBoshell]

Do you know are these different to 'bond'?

[@Adrian-zd4cs]

@@AineBoshell yes, being out on bond - just means you came up with the money to not be in prison till your court date (the bond is supposed to detour people from running)

[@AineBoshell]

@@Adrian-zd4cs oh wow interesting, thanks! :)

[@tammysavoie9771]

I'm so glad that Eleanor said the victims names and told what was available on them.

[@amzluma4548]

That poor, poor boy who only wanted to make breakfast as a thank you. He seemed like such a kind, lovely boy and he never got to go home. My heart is genuinely breaking for him

[@Lorittax3]

I'm relieved to see you back and posting. I imagine many off us thought something bad happened (which may have been the case) or that you died! Glad to see you are physically okay. Please don't feel as though you have to explain your absence. I'm sure many would appreciate it, but you are entitled to your privacy. Not every mystery needs to be solved.

[@sancochita7392]

Nobody thought she died 🙊. Well at least I didn't 😬

[@chellieanne2128]

I wondered.

[@vuqueen4862]

Shut up your doing to much

[@pinkspiltmilk]

@@sancochita7392 You don't speak for everyone though. The poster said 'I imagine many people'.

[@sancochita7392]

@@pinkspiltmilk okay, okay! Sorry I said nobody!

[@dee_yibe]

I have 3 things to say: 1 David and Michael were soooo lucky.... they were living in a mad man's home 2 I can't imagine how Robert's mum will feel... celebrating her birthday on the same day as her son's memorial 🥺 3 I noticed that almost all the victims had long hair or at least shoulder length hair

[@Jasmine-re9dh]

He likes feminine boys because they seem vulnerable

[@bennismukiza8002]

i seen that too. A couple of the victims literally look related

[@miyuu1317]

I mean, it was also the 70's

[@idkmyusername1677]

It was the 70s. It was normal back then.

[@O___________0]

Agree, but David and Michael were extremely unlucky. I think you mean _at least_ he didn’t kill them and they survived.

[@ccappa2001]

The stories about the survivors made me even more emotional than the ones where they didn't survive. I felt so angry for the boys who were completely traumatized and tortured horribly I can't even imagine how awful that was it almost makes me feel sick. And the fact he died painlessly makes me wish he was still alive so they could punish him. He caused so much pain, he should experience some. But, I'm sure that he's in hell and that's the most suffering you can possibly go through.

[@katerinatzia]

this case infuriated me SO MUCH. if the police did their job right from the very beginning, so many young boys would’ve survive. it’s honestly so sad. i’m so happy you’re back though, i’ve missed you so much 🤍

[@AncestralDestructionPot]

They still could've died but they likely would've been found sooner

[@AMMA83]

@@AncestralDestructionPot No they wouldn't have died because he would have been imprisoned before he had killed that many boys.

[@AMMA83]

Right, this is a lesson in police incompetence and white privilege. How could the police keep letting him off like this?

[@AncestralDestructionPot]

@@AMMA83 No not really, it's not a lesson and making their deaths a lesson is just gross as they didn't consent to being killed and their families would still be grieving so don't turn it into something it's not

[@AncestralDestructionPot]

@@AMMA83Still imprisonment seemed to not stop him for going on to commit crimes.

[@ksis86]

The “police work” in this is infuriating. They literally had multiple chances to stop him and just ignored it. Finding a stolen car of a missing person and not looking into it? Having multiple survivors say they were abducted and tortured and they still did nothing??

[@kwetzel1998]

@mand0r Even after Gacy was arrested the cops still did a horrible job. People suspected that Gacy had a second location that he buried bodies at and when asked the cops initially said "No. We don't want to find any more bodies."

[@origamipein18]

I know. I had to facepalm at their incompetence. 🤦‍♀

[@nrey3904]

@mand0r if the cops look into it they might have to hear about homosexuality! That must be more horrifying than murder, SA, and child sex abuse (sarcasm) the police didn’t DO THEIR JOBS!!! until they had to

[@AMMA83]

This is white privilege at it's 'finest', there is no way if this was a black man he would have been given the benefit of the doubt after two seperate allegations made during his probation, when he already had a rape conviction. He had some status as a previously married man managing 3 restaurants, this combined with being white and well-spoken was definitely the reason for the sloppy police work. There are black teenagers serving life for non-violent crimes.

[@arielperez3613]

I’m so glad you’re doing this case, it’s really well known and a lot of people have covered it already but I always prefer the way you explain the cases

[@servicek9ace]

I've always known about John Wayne Gacy but never fully knew the story or what he did. I just always knew of him as "the killer clown" which seemed like that was the smallest part of this story. It's so heartbreaking to hear about all that he has done, all those lives he took. I never knew it was this bad. Part of me finds it so hard to believe, especially for him go on for years and never be caught even after all the reports, especially considering at one point, he had children of his own. I'm glad he got the ending he deserved and I hope one day, they can identify those other remaining victims and bring closure to their families.

[@chellieanne2128]

The amount of relief I felt when I saw Eleanor is back! KZbin isn’t the same without you.

[@MeriweatherDesigns]

It’s been a rough two months

[@clarisseb.6841]

Agreed! I’ve been checking her channel every week just in case i missed her newest video, so happy she’s back :))

[@kekenaniwilson6138]

@@clarisseb.6841 i googled her name to see if it was public why she was gone

[@doanwurrah4534]

I thought a killer clown had got her.

[@MeriweatherDesigns]

@@doanwurrah4534 😆

[@imani8815]

That story about Timothy just made me so sad he was just trying to be nice and make him breakfast I can’t imagine how scared he must have been when he got attacked

[@Twigzthebabyman]

Oh my gosh same,, like... he didn't even ask what was going on,, i get the fear of being woken up to see that but.. wow..

[@Alex-ey5qc]

This is so impressive. Your research is so thorough, you're such a good storyteller, and your jokes are a nice breath of fresh air in these depressing cases. I've missed your videos -- it's good to have you back!

[@Rubi-ex7pw]

This is incredibly sad :(, I ended up crying at the end of this case. The mother who has to celebrate her own birthday the day of her sons memorial is heartbreaking. That monster didn’t deserve a meal, much less a painless death. Is in this cases that I wish hell was 100% real. May all the victims Rest In Peace, and also their families who will continue to grieve for them.

[@julialira4935]

I remember Eleanor commenting how she wanted to cover this case in a past video but was worried it was too overdone, and look at her now!! Love the video

[@yeyeye4242]

she’s back i feel like i’m dreaming

[@autumngartland7618]

facts

[@alih7541]

FRR

[@samtee4688]

Girl I was wondering if we needed to file a missing person report for you. Finally you’re back but with a story I’ve heard a million times. Yours is 3 hours long and you know I’m gonna Listen to it still bc you tell stories in an incredible way and surely you have mentioned things in your version that I haven’t heard before. Thank you for coming back to us! Missed you! Hope you’re well! 💗

[@wonwon3251]

The reason she tells things in a different way is because she straight up makes up a ton of the background of the case and criminal. She's constantly getting responses from families of recently murdered people who have been deeply upset by her poorly researched videos. Hell the first video she ever posted the family straight up asked her to take it down immediately. Just recently she covered that Bianca Devins case, made up a bunch of shit again and initially really upset the family.

[@karenthomas1756]

@@wonwon3251 I haven't read any comments like this about Eleanor

[@nickbeilschmidt411]

@@wonwon3251 What did she make up? I didn't see any comments saying so.

[@margarethe3677]

@@wonwon3251 wha 💀 that’s not true at all

[@Boing2699]

@@wonwon3251 the only people upset under the Bianca Devins’ video were not family. Bianca’s mother actually commented under those comments in defense of Eleanor, saying she got a few minor things wrong but that she though Eleanor did a really good job covering the case and she wasn’t upset by it. This was her real account as well, the one with videos posted of Bianca’s mother being interviewed and such. Bianca’s family was not upset over that video. Some people were saying her mother would be, but her actual mother said it was fine

[@DollyMatrix]

Thank you for giving the victims their names where possible and giving them their moment so we can all acknowledge and honour them, those poor souls, may they have found their peace 😥💖

[@justsomegirlwithoutamustache]

What is that pfp?

[@maliuuum]

All of these boys/young men were so handsome, and their lives so precious. Looking at their pictures was truly heartbreaking. The worst part is that he managed to get away with it for so long; I think that for certain offences, no matter the perpetrator's behavior, they should serve their whole sentence. And the police should look into cases thoroughly and indiscriminately.

[@psikickreverb]

Oh my goodness woman I've been so worried that you weren't posting!!!! So happy to see you back!!!

[@leighnicole100]

A three hour long video?! And it's so well done, informative and sensitive to the victims - I like how you corrected yourself from saying "men" to "boys", since almost all of them were 18 and younger. Forever impressed with your in-depth research and sympathy for all victims and you're sure to not let any sympathy fall onto the killers.

[@emiliahamsa82]

Looking at the photos of these poor boys with the description of their final moments is so so heartbreaking. They all looked and sounded like such bright kids with their whole life in front of them. That was sadly cut short by the hands of this horrible man. May they rest in peace.

[@Lucia-yc9zj]

Omg I’m so happy you’re back!!! I was soooo worried something was wrong! I hope you’re okay and everything is better/good now ❤️❤️❤️

[@luffyloffa5325]

will you bring me to UK ?!!

[@XiiLonna]

Same, i was so worried to, even yesterday checked when was last upload! I hope Eleanor is ok!

[@joanicide]

Thank you so much for the extensive mental health warnings. Though I don’t have schizophrenia myself, i have ocd and a major trigger of mine is fears of schizophrenia. I’m still gonna watch lol but it allowed me to be prepared. You’re doing great Eleanor ♥️

[@i_love_miku_sm]

the story about timothy almost made me cry, he was just trying to be nice Thank you Eleanor for making this video. I hope you had a great summer!

[@holly8428]

i agree. i feel like crying, he just was trying to make them breakfast and was killed thats so horriboe

[@yunjin4434]

Im crying rn like bro😭😭😭

[@darksided6527]

I’ve watched so much true crime and have watched a lot about this case but Eleanor went so in depth and I didn’t know a lot of these details about the actual murders and it’s actually terrifying, to think what those boys were going through in their last moments is genuinely really upsetting idk it’s just really hit me in this video

[@tyjoy3789]

The fact he was probably so dirty and only drinking alcohol because he couldn’t use the water in his house due to decomp is just insane.

[@lilmeat-lx7ob]

Oh my god ew🧍🏻‍♀️

[@Blanch590]

I never thought of that but now that I have that is absolutely disgusting

[@thornor85]

It took me a whole day to get though this one, but your presentation is amazing. Not only did you give detail I had never heard before, but you didn’t glorify him as some sort of inspiration which is shockingly common in so many infamous cases. And you did an amazing job showing just how insidious he was, able to blend into society while doing these unspeakable things. Thank you!

[@Moo-2310]

I hoped that you'd do this case one day! It's an interesting case and other KZbinrs just aren't the same. Love your channel!

[@ostrich8292]

try watching mr ballen, hes great too

[@AtomicWarfare]

@@ostrich8292 cap

[@ostrich8292]

@@AtomicWarfare he's like the best story telling youtuber

[@el-ti8gd]

I’m always so mesmerised by how funny Eleanor manages to be while respectfully talking about a murder case and paying tribute to the victims

[@nata_shaz]

NO WAY… 😳 I’ve waited for so long and now I see it was Definitely worth it!! Omg 3 hours of such an interesting case… thank you Eleanor ❤️

[@S.S.web4003]

I worked in a care home where one of the residents had been a preacher. He was convicted of the murder of 3 boys who were found under his house. And his wife still visited him in the care home and would sing christian songs and pray with him. It was never clear to me if he finished his time in prison or if because of his stroke and level of care needed he couldn't stay. I honestly don't know how that works. When people in prison grow old and have serious health care needs, what do they do with them? At any rate we had to care for him, and I hated it. I felt sick. But considering his SA on these young boys, his condition was just a bit of karma. He had something wrong with his prostate and he would expel large blood clots and was in a lot of pain. Sorry for TMI. But I just thought it was rather ironic.

[@elliells]

I hope he doesn't have a DNR. I hope he gets resuscitated every time he kicks it, just so he can be in that vulnerable state a little longer. I hope he soils himself every day and feels humiliated having to be washed by other people. I get that I'm coming off as really gross rn, but my hatred for "men of God" like that is visceral. The boys can't be brought back to life, but I hope this man stays alive as long as possible. Dying would probably mean he gets to go to heaven to him. Bc forgiveness and shit, Jesus died for his sins blah blah. I hope he gets MRSA. And pressure ulcers.

[@retrogaming2899]

Did he end up dying ?

[@S.S.web4003]

@@retrogaming2899 not before I left, but I'm sure he has by now.

[@cheesepuffs8764]

@@S.S.web4003 nothing like patient confidentiality…i work in a care home too and you shouldn’t have just said any of that.

[@S.S.web4003]

@@cheesepuffs8764 Nobody knows who I'm talking about. I did not violate HIPAA.

[@Love.Yourself.1976]

I'm truly impressed. I've watched many many documentaries about serial killers, including JWG. You found more small informational bits that I've never heard before! Great job.

[@relent-lass7510]

His last meal being a large bucket of KFC makes sense now

[@Katzon74]

Psychopath reliving his 'glory days' for one last time. Absolutely haunting