The 'Gay Slayer' Mass Murderer

[@EleanorNeale]

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[@ItzMiaArtz_______]

Hi

[@ScarletFlame101786]

Hi you have a scammer in your 3 most recent videos using your name. Asking people too text them then asking for gift cards to cover some sending fee.

[@moniquemonet3081]

How dare someone scam your name. You're awesome Eleanor.

[@azurecielo52479]

It wasn't just BDSM banned; all "gay sex" was banned under "sodomy laws". Gayen were treated worse than pedophiles.

[@kushed_out]

Please start a podcast on Apple podcasts !! Would be amazing thanks babe

[@milly616]

i literally gasped and stopped what i was doing when eleanor said collin was put into foster care INSTEAD of the new baby??? i still have the video paused but thats literally HORRIBLE??? he's quite literally being replaced, when instead the baby could be adopted by a better-off family and both children will have a REAL family even if collins parents are struggling. so sad :(

[@Jackfrostsbestie]

Exactly! it's already extremely selfish enough to chose to become pregnant knowing full well that you can't take care of it nonetheless yourself and your existing child but to then prioritise an unborn child that doesn't know it exists and some man over your own existing child is very selfish and the mother is an awful human.

[@katieflick888]

I also gasped out loud and I never do that when watching videos. That absolutely shocked me to my core. I was a mother at 17, struggling to make ends meet, but never, ever would that have crossed my mind. I really have a difficult time wrapping my head around that one. Cannot even imagine the trauma that would have left him with.....

[@kyla6538]

RIGHT!! I was horrified when Eleanor said this was best for him! I was like wtf NO! He is already bonded with his family and will be terrified with strangers! The new baby won't know any different and the parent haven't even bonded with it yet. Sickening!!!

[@nursekae3294]

Like bro! He went through all of that mess with her just for her to turn her back on him 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@introusas]

@@Jackfrostsbestie “Choose to become pregnant” how fucking ignorant of you.

[@kitty0chan444]

I’m happy I haven’t heard of this guy until now. Shows that his dream of becoming infamous didn’t happen

[@comagirl0815]

There are just too many serial killers now too remember.

[@thederptwins7048]

@@comagirl0815sadly that’s true 😕

[@bagarozzi927]

Princess Diana really did help with ending that stigma of touching someone that has AIDS or HIV. She was such an amazing and inspiring woman.

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

Indeed

[@martinkingdon6699]

I'm so confused

[@bagarozzi927]

@@martinkingdon6699 why

[@dresha8026]

Being only 25 minutes in, this comment couldn't be more confusing🤣

[@virginiaordaya]

@@martinkingdon6699 back when AIDS first started it was almost exclusively found in the gay community and the vast majority of people had no idea how it was transmitted- they believed that just being near someone infected with HIV or who had AIDS could make them sick. It took high profile people like Princess Diana and Elizabeth Taylor demonstrating by example that you can touch, kiss, hug people with HIV/AIDS and not be infected. Adults screamed at little children who tried to attend elementary school because they thought they were going to give their child AIDS by just being in class with them. Absolutely heartbreaking to not only suffer from the horrible effects of the disease itself but to then also have people treat you like a biohazard bin - even in hospitals there were medical professionals at first who wouldn’t touch or get close to the AIDS patients. And before they developed the antiretroviral therapy they have today the disease was even more of a nightmare for sufferers, so they were truly facing hell on earth all alone, completely cut off from close human contact and touch until their death and even beyond in the treatment of their corpses. Thank God we have educated the general public on how diseases are transmitted and how they aren’t.

[@genevievef.3822]

CI: No parts of my murders were sexual. I got no sexual gratification from them. Also CI: *describes his first murder as akin to losing his virginity*

[@mojochay]

Murder virginity babes

[@zordorfe]

i think he meant as in getting a new experience/for the first time as opposed to sexual virginity

[@briannaluptowski5197]

Maybe because it’s scary and nerve wracking? I’m not sure

[@cyagami90]

​@@zordorfedoubt it criminologists who study serial killers will tell u 98% of the time they get off on it like a sexual desire

[@bloodybee3553]

​@@cyagami90I love finding other people who know crime stuff. I took 2 years of criminal psychology, but I hardly ever get to find people I can talk to about it 😊

[@paigenielson3468]

I will never get over how well and put together Eleanor is while describing such horrific cases

[@314nc4]

it’s kind of her job, exactly the same with people on tv, ofc while reading for the first time she’s horrified and she said she even cried to some cases, it’s a hard thing to do not everyone could do that not even myself i would just look disgusted horrified and scared by these actions all the time even if i read them 100 times

[@nthgth]

Some people naturally have more of a stomach than others. It's helpful, in dealing with the less peachy aspects of the world

[@ChelseaLynnThibodeaux]

Eleanor: for the first time in his life... He was happy Also Eleanor: shows picture of him with HUGE black eye 🤣🤣

[@lewisshogan]

thought i was the only one who noticed 😭

[@dsi1238]

😂😂😂

[@breezemansker3366]

I mean he was insane so surely someone has got him a few good times before 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

[@martinkingdon6699]

@@breezemansker3366 a life like that would drive anyone insane

[@prettyb5852]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@emmagreen6087]

No matter what Collin had to say, I expect he was a homosexual, maybe repressed. He managed to pass as gay, pick up a gay man, and "fake it" far enough to get a man in the bedroom. My gay friends used to joke about having gaydar (gay radar) claiming they could pick out a gay person in any room of strangers. And there's the psychological fact that we mostly hate in others, what we most hate or fear in ourselves. And then the way he strangled or suffocated them, killed them up close and personal, instead of shooting or something else that would put him more at a distance. Not many straight guys would be comfortable or into handling a Male, naked body, to pose or the body or whatever. He was a sexual sadist that had a preference for men. Just my opinion.

[@wolfzmusic9706]

Perhaps but anybody can be gay. In my year there were quite a few bisexual girls but they all looked straight so you wouldn't have known. I'm sure the same can be said for many gay men. You don't need to look gay to be gay. And there are also probably quite a few lesbians who look really straight too. I have a lesbian friend who finds it hard to get attention from females because they automatically assume she's straight & it's frustrating.

[@jamiemohan2049]

@@wolfzmusic9706 Girls are harder to tell. Also, I know this might not sound great. But most 'bisexual' girls are not actually bisexual. But saying they are for attention.

[@catattack7639]

@@jamiemohan2049 thats just straight up not true. You're just being weird.

[@josiahforgotagain]

@@jamiemohan2049 nigga what 😭😭

[@emmagreen6087]

@@wolfzmusic9706 I know you are right there. But I would think in a gay bar, a straight person would stick out. He had to be dancing with them, flirting or even touching, to get as far as their bedrooms. Most straight people would not be able to go that route. Just like a gay person wouldnt likely be comfortable going that far to act straight.

[@thesoulacademy5936]

The image that came into my mind when you said "Equipped to Cheat" Collin carrying a bottle of wine and flowers outside his mistress's house

[@Certainvie]

No because thats what I had thought first 😭

[@kristiinakapinen2071]

I imagined him on his way to a casino with aces in his sleeves😆🃏

[@notahumanbeing6892]

same 😭

[@teniyahq]

same omg

[@roryk.c.353]

Harm to animals is my biggest trigger I’m so glad someone finally put that in the warnings I’ll see you in another video so soon!

[@hollie.13]

Same 😔

[@sngray11]

My Uncle Keith passed away from AIDS in 1991 and he was gay. At that period in time, it was so shunned upon that his partner would wait until after visiting hours to come and visit my Uncle in the hospital. Thankfully society has come a long way since then and people can more openly express their sexuality. Thank you Eleanor for bringing this heartbreaking case to our attention. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims’ families and loved ones. May they rest in peace. 💗

[@mc98smusicmoviereviews93]

Thank you for not being a homophobe.

[@sophiemitchell4554]

rest in piece to poor keith and may everyone learn from cases like these to grow even further as a society

[@s4n4_x]

​@@mc98smusicmoviereviews93 Thank you for doing the bare minimum? Okay lol

[@DonnaFallon-si2nc]

R.i.p uncle Keith. May he fly high in heaven. I suggest you watch 'its a sin'. (If you're in UK) absolutely brilliant

[@sngray11]

@@DonnaFallon-si2nc Thank you for the kind words and the recommendation. I will definitely add that to my watch list. 💗

[@maeeliz]

Rest in peace to all of the victims in this case, no one deserves to go out like that. Rip as well to that poor cat 😞

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

10:14 I sure as hell don't. You put the new baby in foster care, so they'll know no different and be taken care of. Abandoning a son old enough to remember you because it "ruins" the precious new family you want to start is wretched.

[@mayaswellbethewifesaccount7625]

And then the husband left anyways. So Great. Ruin your eldest for the husband who leaves you.

[@israfel367]

I just paused the video at this part So sad

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

@@mayaswellbethewifesaccount7625 And I do take exception to people thinking pointing this out means we're blaming the mother for her son becoming a murderer. It may not be her fault, and it may be true countless children suffer the same or worse and don't become murderers, but it IS a 50/50 chance if just one person put their all into this kid, he would've grown up well adjusted.

[@sazaislin]

putting a child into foster care is somehow the best and worst decision imo, if the mother knows that she cannot take care of the child then yes. but i disagree with eleanor too at the fact that she said it was a guaranteed roof over his head, a roof over his head sure, but that rarely ever means a good one in foster care :(

[@nicolekemp5422]

Omg yess It would have been hard for me to give the new baby up but I would have been attached to my 1st child that would have destroyed me

[@darladawn1111]

As a foster in animal rescue, I find it extremely upsetting when people dump their senior dog at the shelter because they got a new puppy. It happens more than you might realize. It is so sad for those dogs. I can only imagine how a child would feel. Psychologically and emotionally, it probably was not the best for (young) Colin. Even if he did receive regular meals, I bet he would have taken the love of his parents over that if given a choice.

[@katieward6713]

This is heartbreaking

[@darladawn1111]

@@katieward6713 yes, very 😭

[@Boing2699]

It’s awful to me that so many senior dogs get dumped, especially since they’re less likely to be adopted. When I’m on my own in a big enough place I’d love to adopt or at least foster senior animals. There some be some organization or something to raise awareness about how many senior animals are left lonely, even though they’re generally well behaved, trained a bit, socialized, etc. also not as energetic generally so better for smaller homes, homes with kids, etc. maybe if more people realized how many senior animals there are in shelters, more people would want to foster and adopt them.

[@oscarloveswag6071]

I agree with you completely.

[@gallettiguitartones]

Same with cats, I've fostered over 20 kitties over the year and adopted one of them(an adult kitty). Now I'm fostering another adult kitty and it's so difficult for them to find a new family. People always choose kittens. But the adult kitties deserve another opportunity too, they're sweet babies, so loyal and beautiful. With so much love to give. 😭

[@mikaplaysgames310]

Holy shit, this man basically did the police’s entire investigation for them. Terrifying to think how long this could have gone on with a murder less hell bent on self-destruction

[@nekokitty90]

It's probably a good thing he had a big ego and wanted notoriety. If he was just one of the killers that simply enjoyed hurting people, he would've probably killed a lot more people and maybe never got caught.

[@judeedee5402]

Eleanor might not be judging the mother for giving up Collin for foster care, but I sure do. Absolutely disgusting.

[@aldranzam3456]

But I'm even more disgusted with a system that let a young mother struggle so much, that first she had to rely on men to support her then had to give up one of his children. She made wrong choices. But so did every person that stood by while they suffered... And if we let that keep happening history will repeat.

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

And it happens all the time

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

@@aldranzam3456 wrong choices are personal responsibility. Why should the public pay, as in fact happens constantly, for her to be a parasite and drain public resources that the honest workers are producing?

[@judeedee5402]

@@aldranzam3456 oh absolutely, I do not deny that at all

[@awkwardgay7898]

I agree.. someone that I know has 6 babies with the same dad… she recently put ALL (age. 2,2,3,4 and 5) but 1 of her kids into foster care. She kept her new baby. About 1 year old. I think it’s awful

[@undeaddoeinc.407]

Okay gonna call out the mother AS a child who lived place to place and was bullied. Putting the child who ALREADY has attachments to you into foster care is messed up on so many levels. Eleanor might not put blame on her, but I do. They should have put the baby who doesn't even know it's a person the moment its born into either foster care or adoption. She had an obligation to her son she spent all her life with. Just because some man who is "Mr.Right" comes into her life and they NOW have a biological child together doesnt mean you can throw away the half blood like he's nothing. I know he turned into a murderer, but maybe if someone saved the child he was he wouldn't be the monster he turned into... Edit: I'm not saying the mom was the sole factor to what he became. But in saying some normalcy might have helped a little...

[@cindyrohrick2695]

Also, these women always seem to have time to find new men.

[@sunnysoprano7101]

Agreed. Why give up the child who's already there, loving you as their mother?

[@TheSystem.Co9]

I completely agree I was kinda annoyed that Eleanor didn’t want to like blame the mother I don’t care that she was a child she had an obligation to him not to that man or the unborn baby

[@Lavenderskullz]

Yeah I agree. It was so selfish of her to want to keep the baby but in order to do that, she had to send her young son away. If you can’t afford to give basic necessities to a child, maybe don’t have one?

[@paigeycakey5061]

Yeah my heart kinda sank when I heard that they put him into care. Imagine how heartbroken that boy was.

[@NotXTINAAA]

Absolutely love you! But I disagree about putting him in foster care just so they can have a new baby. I feel like if you can’t afford two then your priority should be the child you already committed to having. That’s so messed up.

[@reesey8676]

Foster care is horrible as well nowadays, i can’t imagine what it was like back then.

[@FOFA1630]

I understand your view, but back then woman weren’t not fortunate enough to have a good method of birth control like we have. 😊

[@GenXfrom75]

Facts! They should've placed the NEW BABY for adoption! 💔🤬

[@GenXfrom75]

@@FOFA1630 irrelevant. You put your newborn up for adoption, from day one! Not the child who already knows you. 💔

[@FOFA1630]

@@GenXfrom75 huh 🤔 you make no sense. I child is a child weather is a new born not! People mentally back are different to now and how we now view fosters homes.. also it’s cheaper to feed a new born baby than an teenager

[@whereskeyser]

The thing that infuriates me in this is.... EVEN if the deaths had looked accidental... MANSLAUGHTER IS A THING?? It's mind-boggling they wouldn't search for a subject and at the very least interview them.

[@voidbreather7405]

Right? It's like when police are reluctant to search for a child if they're a suspected runaway - THAT'S STILL A MISSING CHILD WHO'S POTENTIALLY IN DANGER, FIND THEM YOU LAZY BASTARDS.

[@sarahhearns780]

What I was thinking 🙃

[@besuscretin7810]

THANK YOU. That was so infuriating to me as well. I despise that it was treated as this "whoops!" Oh well, thing. That's so gross.

[@missamanda2703]

I've been a nurse since 1999. In 2009 one of my closest friends was diagnosed with HIV. He has a 0 viral load. He was infected in the er we worked in outside of the medical school we did our clinical hours at Chicago hospital. I was the only one who knew until about 2005. People would be stunned or disgusted that I would eat and drink after him. Let him hold my baby, feed my baby. We were roommates until I remarried he is my son's God father. I'm so glad the stigma is gone. Yes he is married now yes he has a son. No his wife nor son have contracted it.

[@eparkinson46]

I hate the stigma around hiv. If it's non detectable, it's non transferable

[@Picking.a.name.is.hard1]

I can somewhat understand the initial fear, since most people didn't know exactly how the disease would be passed on. But Jesus Christ the treatment people who had HIV, especially men, received was absolutely disgusting. Ignorance can be an explanation only to a degree, because even medical personnel mistreated patients with HIV/AIDS and I just can't fathom that. One of the few times I've actually bawled while reading something informative.

[@dougb9737]

Sorry miss Amanda but the stigma isn't gone it's probably not as bad but believe me when I say it's not gone people are still very ignorant

[@slow.and.hot717]

I agree with one exception - you shouldn't eat or drink after anyone, not even a fully healthy person.

[@Tra_C]

This story warmed my soul, I was waiting for you to say he's deceased. So happy he and family are well❤

[@hihello-7396]

It really seems like homophobia played a part in how negligent the police was. Because even if you find a person that died accidentally during sex, there was still always another person involved??? That would still be 3rd degree murder, and the family and friends still should have been helped so they could know what happened to these men. Rest in piece to the victims.

[@kevincika]

Let’s appreciate how Eleanor is so gorgeous every video. Keep going

[@Irish1Eric]

Stunning for sure

[@xx_kaya_xxwells6252]

Exactly

[@christinawalkowiak4288]

Absolutely beautiful

[@cme7527]

Yes she's gorgeous!

[@jakewaterfall5091]

Unreal honestly

[@Wren_BurnsHam]

Honestly, I am happy your so respectful to all the victims. And you don’t put like sPoOkY music in the background, I’ve seen many true crime videos do that. Anyway another amazing video by an AMAZING true crime KZbinr :) Edit: Don’t Wanna be that annoying guy but thanks for the likes.

[@rebelsleighter]

and she isnt like eating or anything shes my fav

[@badlilthang2]

@@rebelsleighter nor is she tryna make it seem like its funny ppl be arguing that the youtuber is just trying to lighten up the mood but its a literal murder case??

[@frogofalltime]

her and bella fiori are my absolute faves for this

[@spookysailorscout]

I also like Brooke McKenna and Danielle Kirsty!

[@owl4260]

@@spookysailorscout Mollie Westbrook is very good too, one of the most sincere I've seen so far

[@rebeccay480]

I feel bad for all of the victims, but something about Perry's death just feels especially sad.

[@TheKleptix]

I actually think he wouldn't have gone to the authorities, he was pretty close to making it, too

[@marguerittaaa]

Me too🥺💔

[@kraykray_dee8377]

Just for anyone curious,”going equip to cheat” in UK now it’s “going equip to steal” which is basically what you said. At the time of a search items are found on a person that are intended on being used to commit a theft crime. Just if anyone is curious 🥺😂

[@clementbarney359]

Thank you, I was scouring the comments for thus

[@samlennon1788]

I’m (unfortunately) personally connected to this case, there’s so many things that aren’t in the media about this case and i know how disgusting he is which makes it so much worse for me. Thank you covering this

[@aldranzam3456]

Killers and bad people in general create a ripple of pain that never truly goes away. But hope you and your loved ones can heal.

[@mc98smusicmoviereviews93]

Do you think that gay marriage is disgusting?

[@gummyguttz]

@@mc98smusicmoviereviews93bro what 😭💀

[@madisonholtze7344]

I love that Eleanor's accent gets even more pronounced when she's passionate about something. It's so pretty!

[@Clairethegeek]

I lived in the estate where Andrew was murdered in Dalston. I remember Crimewatch coming to film for their show and asking me, my brother and two of our friends to play outside the Greenacre estate (where Andrew lived as the caretaker - it was supported accommodation for older people) to make it look more family friendly. I always remember Andrew being so nice to us children who lived in the flats next door - he was a lovely soul. RIEP Andrew (and all the victims of Colin Ireland)

[@AQueerThem]

I love you for how much awareness you bring to gay murder cases. I didn't actually know about this case but it is very famillure to the Toronto gay village killer and it makes me sick of often cops don't do anything, even when it is obviouss something was going on. Sad, snd disturbing. Thank you also for always giving a content warning at the beginning of each video, it helps me prepare for any and all animal abuse that may come up. Good job.

[@rhiannon0_o]

my jaw dropped as soon as you mentioned what happened with the cat, what kind of monster would even think about doing that

[@melodyoswin4709]

My uncle-in-law died from aids in the late 80’s. It was how his family found out he was gay and luckily for him they embraced him and took very good care of him to the end of his life. I know it could’ve been bad because my husband’s mother and father were very devout Catholics so it could’ve gone a whole other way.

[@slow.and.hot717]

Sorry to hear that. On another note, this is the first time I hear someone refer to someone as uncle-in-law... Is this a thing?

[@tiadanton6287]

My mum was born and lived in Kent, at the same time he lived there, it's so crazy to think that she lived in the same place as a monster like this. R.I.P to all of his victims ❤

[@Lilbxxbyy]

Monsters are everywhere, in every town

[@MoBahar687]

Do you know how huge Kent is? its massive...

[@sourpatchghoul]

Kent's a big place, a whole county..

[@Boing2699]

@readmyname.comment that on a video that’s not a serious one about horrible murders, you silly little bot. I hope whoever created you reads this and puts more work into programming you so your comments are at least in relevant places. If you have to spam comments to get views, your content isn’t very good. Make better content and people will actually want to watch.

[@Boing2699]

@@sourpatchghoulstill weird to think about. Wisconsin is a whole state, but it still creeps people out if they lived there while dahmer was active

[@katieburton3383]

When you said the mum put him into care and kept the baby with her broke my heart 🥹

[@abee3812]

You make sad disturbing real life things interesting yet I love learning about it,Love you girly, watching you grow and be happier love u and ur content! Made my day🤍

[@abigailmajerus9286]

I always appreciate how specific you are with content warnings! So many creators just say "content warning for this video!" Without saying why, which is pretty useless for people who like true crime but want to avoid specific triggers. Love your content ❤

[@alexa5023]

Same. Like i can watch lots of different ones but animal abuse really triggers me im glad she makes those specific warnings

[@veramendell5543]

I love how you always give the trigger warnings so that people can know what the video includes so they can click out if something is triggering

[@aldranzam3456]

true! I'm sometimes feeling up to it, but sometimes I hear the trigger warning and realise I am not in the state of mind to hear the story. It's really helpful and I've encouraged content creators I know to do the same.

[@Temps.-]

Let's appreciate that this is the second video that's over and hour! Eleanor is my favourite true crime youtuber 💕

[@Awusa]

I genuenly despise people, who make baby after baby, all the while not being able to afford the bare minimum like food. And most importantly, the neglect that happens automatically with children, when you don't have the capacity for more than one child. It really makes my blood boil actually...

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

I do agree

[@faerietarot5385]

that’s why we NEED to have the roe v. wade law, women need choices

[@ssearcy722]

@@faerietarot5385 they can choose to use condoms

[@OutbackRose7]

Agreed 👍 But this is also where free maternity and childcare services and free and accessible birth control and sex education are also so important.

[@tehhotline4225]

@@faerietarot5385 Yeah because piling up dead ones is so much better than foster care, Get of your high horse

[@mynameis5227]

omg i cant imagine how damaging it would be for a child who's parents gave them away. honestly being with a loving family that has no money is better than being alone and abandoned

[@aldranzam3456]

Specially since in foster care some children also go hungry and suffer abuse.

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

@@aldranzam3456 yes, everywhere in the world

[@laura-anndesmond]

I hope he rots in hell

[@kyla6538]

Right there is no guarantee he will be fed or kept warm and loved just because he is given away to foster care. Eleanor thought process here is whack

[@artvulture456]

Why is everyone talking about this instead of the murders. Like come on

[@Funkynutblast444]

The part where Eleanor talks about how cool hanky code is so adorable lol

[@Funkynutblast444]

“I understand people have crazy fetishes but iVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT ONE BEFORE???” I fucking love you 💀💀💀

[@acetale]

this comment is adorable lol I cracked up when she said the fetish comment too 🤣

[@barrykennethdaniel7411]

Am I the only one that puts these on to go to sleep? Not cos it's boring but cos it's like an adult bed time story and it reminds me that I'm lucky to be alive after being a victim of a very violent crime myself.

[@anniebeatty7967]

I do too. I like to visualize what she's talking about. It helps me sleep strangely enough. 🥴

[@cupcakesfanficgameslover5792]

God bless you so you heal. I find these and scary mythology stories to be relaxing as well.

[@Picking.a.name.is.hard1]

For me it's because of her voice. Eleanor has a very calm and gentle tone and I really lover her accent. Also yeah it kind of is like a bedtime story ...a very sad one.

[@Ian-yf2bd]

I thought I was the only one. I feel super weird about it too

[@ladybugblue3831]

I’m the same. Maybe slightly odd but it works.

[@pie1o1morris46]

I always feel angry/disgusted about physical punishments in schools (or at home but that's another story). I remember my step-dad mentioning a teacher literally breaking a paddle while beating him with it. I almost got sent to the office for physical punishment once in elementary school but luckily the teacher gave me the choice of either that or sitting at the "island" (a desk separate from the rest of the class)

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[@aldranzam3456]

I work with children, and as much as they sometimes anger me or push me to my limits, I can't imagine ever hurting them. It truly horrifies me when people put hands on their children as "discipline" (they truly just haven't learned how to control their anger). I was heavily emotionally abused as a child, and often hit, by my mother. It leaves a scar that never goes away.

[@pie1o1morris46]

@@aldranzam3456 I'm sorry that she did that to you. You didn't deserve it.

[@lr6477]

Bs, lots of parents miss out on disciplining while young and then hidings become necessary. Bleeding hearts make ruffians

[@pie1o1morris46]

@@lr6477 There are numerous studies showing that "hidings" are abuse. It's outdated and cruel and needs to be done away with. I'm not saying children shouldn't be disciplined, but there are many means of discipline without having to resort to beating a child.

[@sofiasaldana4698]

I usually dont get disgusted easily, but at the part where you explain what he did with one of his victims and his cat I almost gagged, didn’t helped I was having lunch 😭😭😭 Still, amazing video as always!💕

[@katieelizabeth834]

I know it was awful.

[@SjofnBM1989]

Yeah that was just extra fucked up.

[@eeervfdgfdfggfnfhhg]

yeah that was actualy painful.

[@王艺璇-w3k]

I feel so angry for that cat. Not at all for that man tho, he was knowingly spreading HIV to people.

[@larissacroan7150]

My dad was a judge, “going equipped” would mean getting caught near houses with a bag full of crowbars, basically any equipment that could be used to break into houses with no good reason for it. If you’ve got previous for theft etc that will make it worse.

[@WelshToni]

I moved 19 times throughout my childhood. I became a loner early on, as I would make friends and be torn away. It’s horrific. I was in foster care. So many new faces. Expected to just fit in or go. So hard. Has really affected my adult life. I have a best friend and her family as the closest to family I have. Relationships… I’m difficult. I’m standoffish and push people away. I don’t want to. But I don’t want to get hurt by losing someone else again.

[@aldranzam3456]

I'm sorry and hope you've been able to heal and are still healing. Early childhood trauma has a way to stick, but it's admirable to keep trying!

[@stevebond125]

I share your pain. I moved many times as a child! Now in later life I have very few friends and find relationships difficult. There is always that voice in the back of your head saying this friendship won't last so there's no point investing in it!

[@drayiskewl]

Omg the section about the cat... I've never felt so sick listening to one of these videos. I hope him in and his kitty are happy in heaven together.

[@bombdotcom2168]

I love your content, Eleanor. You're respectful and thorough with each case you cover, and that makes your content very nice to listen to. I've always been a big fan of true crime, and your channel is my go to when it comes to learning about cases.

[@chloenisbet8811]

As someone who spent years moving around over 12 times and multiple schools it really effected my social skills and how I interact with other due to never have that social development or security as a young child

[@yunjinagiota]

honestly, i watch your videos to sleep faster. you have the calmest voice and tone ever, it always puts me to sleep.

[@mariepavladobrodinska8826]

so true

[@FOFA1630]

@go to my home page for a sub so what ? You want a mental? You been commenting the same thing over and over again bore off 😂😂

[@username._copied123]

you have to be the best true crime youtuber. the way you tell the stories are just great. a lot of other true crime youtubers just sit there and read their scripts. def can tell you actually put work into your videos.

[@ColleenD78]

Your storytelling is just BEYOND BRILLIANT.... I'm so engrossed and impressed!!! Bravo to your amazing channel. You truly do these victims justice ❤

[@SoCalJellybean]

Imagine if that first murder had been a young woman found in the same position… the police would’ve been investigating the heck outta that. Even if it HAD been accidental, someone still died, and someone needed to be held accountable for it! EDIT: And Eleanor just brought this up! I commented too early! 😉

[@kellydedman1720]

Not quite? If it was a female sex worker then no chance! Back then (even now to be honest) they have rarely got the respect and justice they deserve as victims

[@Sunrisess]

@@kellydedman1720 true

[@evelyn-bz7hv]

@@kellydedman1720 True, but these people weren’t sex workers so it doesn’t really apply. But it is definitely true and so wrong that sex workers don’t get nearly enough respect.

[@kellydedman1720]

@@evelyn-bz7hv I now they weren't but your comment said that it's because the victims were gay men,and if female would have got more attention. Sadly it's not true. Basically I feel our police force and criminal justice system fails lots of people.

[@Ddalgiichigo]

Would they though? Only if it was a rich white woman and they guy who did it couldn’t pay them off

[@dianaa5231]

Thank you for not making this a two parter! When you do I don't watch until the second part comes out & sometimes I'll forget to even watch

[@Ashadsc]

I've seen this story covered by someone else and this one is so in depth I was like is it the same person?? Great video!

[@larajayne4934]

I do agree with you, I remember when that boy escaped Dahmer and asked for help from the police but of course Jeffery talked his way out of it and said that was my boyfriend. The guy was 14? They didn't even bother asking to see an ID, just sent it back to Jeffrey 😥 Even the neighbour said it 🤦🤦 I know I'm going bringing up other cases but yeah I think it was because of it being three men as well. Maybe not but it seems like it, either that or stupidity 🤦😭

[@sheilaknight9849]

Sitting here listening to one of my favorites on a Saturday relaxing. My son comes and sits with me an answers Eleanor like she’s right here with us 😊

[@sarahweigel4361]

the irony of him wanting to be infamous and ive never even heard of him

[@Kkillen]

Eleanor I’m getting ready to see a live show and there’s literally NOTHING I’d rather listen to while doing my makeup ❤

[@kasiaroberts5483]

Same here! I always listen to gorgeous Eleanor doing my makeup in the morning. My favourite time of the day x

[@emilykeegan4345]

Ohhh!! Lucky you! Hope you have a lovely time! 😊

[@LaurieLeeAnnie]

Well now these are some people that have followers Eleanor for years right here! 👍

[@dianaa5231]

This is so true. I don't ever sit to watch her videos, but I'm always listening as I do something lol. Does she have these videos in audio format only?

[@Kkillen]

@@dianaa5231 petition for Eleanor podcast

[@nomousecat]

Just looked it up - Someone going equipped to cheat basically says they have stuff on them to commit a con or cheat someone out of money or property. Stuff a con artist would have, like weighted dice for example.

[@destinygatez7068]

Woah weighted dice?? You learn something new everyday 😮

[@elishagoldsmith8189]

Beautiful as always! Also just want to let you know I appreciate the LONG videos❤️ I used to hate waiting for part 2 to come! First thing I said when I seen this video was OMG my Elenor has blessed us with a 1 hour 49 minute video!!😁😁 By far my favourite person EVER❤️

[@MDev1997]

I have a degree in Criminal Justice and just wanted to clarify that rigor mortis is when the muscles in the body stiffen up. One of the terms Eleanor was looking for is algor mortis, which is the decrease in body temperature post-mortem that gradually happens over time. The other term is livor mortis, which is the discoloration over time of the body, which starts out in small patches within half an hour to 2 hours post-mortem.

[@justanotherhuman5162]

I love learning stuff like this. Thanks for the information 😊

[@MyRatsHaveWings]

Eleanor, you literally help me make it through the day sometimes. Thank you for all the hard work you put into everything you touch 💜

[@alexajill85]

I'm sending you a cuddle. Just in case you need one 😊

[@MyRatsHaveWings]

@@alexajill85 💙💙💙

[@storyshiftchara1291]

Sending hugs

[@caoimhe7230]

Eleanor has to be my favorite youtuber, she always posts so much and she talks about really interesting cases! 💞

[@DumbRadiationAddict]

I got a survey at the beginning asking me how my advertising was, I said awful And right after they played a ad just to punish me for my sin of going against the ads

[@YukiyoFukuharaOfficial]

57:24 almost made me cry. I say almost cause the tears just wouldn't come out but my heart goes out to the victims family

[@GenuineUntelligence]

I'm still very early in video so I'm still getting to know the child (who, despite what he becomes is still innocent at this point) and hearing that his mother had a new baby and gave him away must have felt like an ultimate betrayal for him. No judgement at all towards the parents, they were in a difficult position but he was literally replaced with a newer model by his own mother.

[@reagangulwell2293]

Im judging fully, you cant just get rid of a child…

[@A_Little_Bit_Of_Everything06]

@@reagangulwell2293 same, I'm still very early on but like, fully judging, who just gets rid of their kid because they wanted a new one? 🙄

[@megansmith1382]

Yeeeees!!!! Exactly 💯. I am in no way blaming her for him growing up to murder but I do blame her for his emotional disconnect. First the mother moved him around and around so he was never able to make friends and if he did in the short time he was in a school, he would have to move again and lose that connection so he stopped trying and then he was eventually abandoned by his mom and so I greatly blame her for his emotional disconnect from anyone and why he was so weird and no one really liked him. He never learned how to make friends and he never learned how to act in any kind of social environment. I absolutely 💯% blame the mom for all of that. However, Colin still knew right from wrong and he knew killing was wrong. I do not blame the mother for those actions.

[@galaxybabeoxo9]

Also judging 🤦‍♀️. Can’t help but think the reason she kept the baby and got rid of Colin was because it was her husbands and Colin wasn’t ….

[@aocroissier]

Hello! Adoption? I'm judging her, I'm sorry. What she this is plain cruel.

[@debmarie1189]

I will never understand how the cops believed that the victims deaths were just a BDSM situation gone wrong and thus didnt consider that a murder? Not only is it very clear that that was not the case but regardless that's still murder lol Even if that had been what happened.... It's still a murder whether it was an accident or not. Not to mention that would still mean that someone caused the death of these men and then fled the scene... How is that possibly not a murder and a cause for an investigation? "I guess he was engaging in BDSM and was killed as a result and the perpetrator panicked and left him tied up humiliated and ran off! Totally understandable accident!" What.....

[@anastasiachaliman4234]

I just started the video and had to pause to say: you are absolutely gorgeous! I love that you're letting your freckles shine because they're so cute! And even though you've ALWAYS been so beautiful, I just wanted to say that there has definitely been a glow up within the last year. Thank you so much for being such a great, reliable and considerate true crime KZbinr. You're appreciated so very much.

[@lynnc8188]

Eleanor I feel like I have watched you grow up on KZbin. You keep getting prettier as you grow older. I bet your family is so proud of you ❤God bless you and thanks for another great show.

[@lissy652]

The German word "Serienmörder" is defined as a murderer that commits several similar murders. A Mordserie (series of murders) consists of at least three murders commited by single person with some time in between. The term was apparently first used by a German police officer in 1930. I very much like your videos and the accent. :)

[@kree8100]

Eleanor this case was riveting and a marathon of a case. I in my my humble opinion would say it's the best one you've done,you made it so real,outstanding

[@rygib1096]

Honestly been watching this channel for years and as I've been currently in and out of hospitals and have some health issues these honestly help forget about the pain when I'm so intrigued in the stories

[@SmutnaDziewczyna-cn1gh]

hope you will get well soon💞💞💞

[@fredriksiswick3656]

hope you feel better x

[@dwayna.]

hope you have a speedy recovery or receive a miracle🙏🏾❤️

[@thabsilechamane3774]

Get well soon ❤️

[@connietaylor2683]

❤

[@804smiles]

Eleanor Eleanor Eleanor may I jus say how amazing u are sis! 💯 I appreciate the care u put into the stories u tell & how much care u take when telling these stories bc u give straight facts & even when u express your opinion u make sure to acknowledge that this is my take on...& U are by far the only KZbinr I get excited for the long vids & even when it's a series I'm literally on the edge of my seat waiting for the next episode 👏🏾🤞🏾😉

[@ruggieroaltiprandiferrara4994]

If my mother had put me in foster care because a new baby was on its way, I'd never be able to fully recover from the trauma. This won't excuse his crimes, of course, but still

[@sallyalmond2692]

Eleanor… I’m so proud of how far you have come. I’ve been watching you since 2k followers and it’s been an absolute pleasure 😊

[@hannahmeek3726]

elenor’s videos make my day sm better

[@sleeplessinsilverlakes6637]

I can't believe they chose one child over the other🤯 disgraceful

[@dabi-is-online23]

They clearly didn't. You are not listening properly.

[@YoungForever7168]

​@@dabi-is-online23 they did tho you ain't the one listening

[@tomurashigaraki1829]

these are so respectful and good quality, please keep making content you're so amazing. I also love the fact you put mental health disclaimers on these videos. i have had to click off sometimes which I'm sorry for but still thank you for those 🙏🏼

[@deliaboxy623]

Watching ALL the ads because this girl is fire 🔥 ~ amazing content and so respectful and not judgmental towards people and situations

[@skyofhoney]

I honestly found this so interesting, ty for making videos like this.

[@Just_Zentoshi]

No way! An almost 2 hour video! I can listen while crocheting. I appreciate the time and effort put into this video and the respect you have for the victims.

[@alexisbarrington4443]

I also listen while crocheting good luck on your project !

[@Just_Zentoshi]

@@alexisbarrington4443 thanks! If you are working on one yourself, hope it all goes smoothly! (๑˃̵　ᴗ　˂̵)و

[@amandameszaros3827]

As sick as it is... I love watching your videos as I'm settling in to fall asleep. THANK YOU for an almost 2 hour video! This took a LOT of work, and I just want to give kudos to you. It's important to see a full backstory of why these people end up the way they are... not justified by ANY means... but it's interesting and can be a major teaching lesson/ reality. check to young parents

[@gingersnapps]

The movie "Sleepers" is a great example of one of the places to send troubled youths and this is something we are still dealing with today! Even tho the ones you speak of were shut down there has been more they just changed the name ! The "Ranch" that Dr.Phill sends teens who act out has been under scrutiny recently with abuse aligations, Paris Hilton also has spoken out about her experience in one as well so these places are still around !

[@erinhansen614]

That's Paris Hilton for you..she has millions and you still can't fix stupid. The world is just so unfair!

[@Stonedandbookish]

I wrote a paper for my adolescent criminal justice class about one of them that is still open! Diamond ranch academy. They had a teenager die there a couple months ago

[@Stonedandbookish]

@@erinhansen614 that comes off as blaming her for what she went through.

[@bo-atelier.borealis]

The things with the poor cat is literally the first time ever I skipped a bit in your videos 😭😭 thanks so much for the warning, my head filled it in anyway and I almost hurled

[@sylwiabudziak740]

I was watching other podcast about that case some time ago, in one moment I was really thinking if this is the same case... Here some many details, thank you very much ❤️

[@ElizabethNicoleSchwartz]

I'm glad you put the video all in one now instead of the whole part 1 and part 2 thing

[@Amy-wq9gz]

Looking for a bedtime watch and earlier than usual !!! Thank you Eleanor x

[@rsha6435]

same girllll

[@evopotato]

For anybody who wants to skip the animal death part, it’s 1:23:43 - 1:24:45

[@evelyn38927]

thank you ❤

[@GenXfrom75]

Thanks 👍

[@tamarasorbo1550]

You're an angel thank you so much 💓

[@SkwithOv]

i really hate when people see someone who says they're absolutely not gay, and because they comitted hate crimes against gay people, others assume they were closeted yes, it absolutely happens, closeted gay people can be awful sometimes for a variety of reasons however, most homophobia comes from outside the gay community, and doing this (assuming someone who hates gay people and says they're not gay.. is gay) is just another way to blame marginalized communities for their own oppression it happens EVERY TIME if someone commits a hate crime against lgbtqia+ people, they're "closeted and taking it out on others" no "oh yeah this person said they're not gay and commits hate crimes against gay people, wow they're really awful and homophobic" it's "oh yeah they're definitely gay, i don't want to speculate but GAYYYY" i can GUARANTEE most lgbt+phobic hate is from people outside the lgbt+ community, and sometimes isn't even directed at lgbt+ people, but anyone who has any remotely similar traits in how they speak or how they dress or what they look like, whatever

[@jujucarbo7555]

Hi lovely. I'm one of your much older stans, from Wales. In my early 20's, I actually lived very close to where Christopher Dunn, where he was sadly murdered, during the time it happened. It was awful. 😔♥️

[@DameWhoGames.]

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen an Eleanor Neale video where she doesn’t have a sponsor lol. Get it girl!

[@cptnmochi]

Oh yeah profiting off of victims and their families, girl boss!!!

[@Cosygamer941]

@@cptnmochi you’re watching her videos as you’ve commented on a lot of them and you’re subscribed to her? You clearly watch her content which helps her profit. If you don’t agree with the true crime content on KZbin don’t watch and/or engage with it. Practice what you preach 😂

[@evelina3412]

@@Cosygamer941said very well ‼️‼️

[@Megsiexx11]

@@cptnmochi are you joking? you’re watching the video 🤣

[@lolopie3333]

She did have a sponsor though... the VPN? Am I the only one who saw that?

[@LaurieLeeAnnie]

Really prefer the awesome long video rather than a 2 parter! Thank you! 🙏♥️

[@ajjamsen694]

I get the feeling Colin Ireland's treatment of his second wife is because of Virginia leaving (and it never being the cheaters fault when the truth comes out, of course) I could definitely see his change in character is him being like "imma hurt you, take everything and leave you before you can leave me" at least when it comes to his treatment of his first wife compared to the second

[@8thhousemoonrabbit205]

Deeper than that- he was getting back at his mother, too for having him in poverty. He probably figured 'i made it, what's their struggle, to me?' He's already disgusting

[@laura-anndesmond]

Please get your facts straight. My mum did not leave him. He physically and violently abused both my mum and me and the last time he was in prison while my mum was still married to him she divorced him before he ended up killing her.

[@MsSonali1980]

@@laura-anndesmond That's really what I thought. It was just too odd to me, that he was pictured as loving and caring through the whole marriage. Made no sense. And then the drastic leave and no contact of his first wife (your mom) also made no sense otherwise. I'm sorry you had him in your life.

[@crusty409]

this is not about the video but girl you are SO pretty. Like you are genuinely THAT girl that everyone looks at and wishes that they were you. You have an amazing personality aswell and make amazing videos. Im obsessed.

[@ScarletFlame101786]

you will probably never see this. just wanted to say i love your voice when telling each of these crime stories. i was lying beside my daughter and i figured i would watch one of your videos and i swore i blinked and now its 2 hours later. your videos just kept playing and woke neither of us. you have great rhythm and speak softly in a respectful way. all and all it's very pleasant for the sleepy parent who loves mystery and true crime.

[@aldranzam3456]

To readers, report this comment and the channel. Scam.

[@ScarletFlame101786]

This is a scam under me. They tried to ask for gift cards.

[@Autumnpearly]

I work at a very large hospital and I just got home from an 18 hour shift solely bc I want my kids to have an amazing Christmas bc it’s their first one without their father that passed away in March. I’m so exhausted and have to work at 11 tonight I still got that “second wind” that tends to happen to all of us when we were literally just dozing off on the way home. I wasn’t sure how I was going to relax then an Eleanor notification popped up and now I know. Thank you for being you, Eleanor. You’re a wonderful person and I see so much success in your future. Edit to add: It’s RSV season and all the parents of little ones need to be very careful with your babes. Do not let anyone besides you and immediate family kiss your baby no matter what unless they’ve recently been vaccinated for RSV. Not even on the forehead. Anyone over 60 is very prone to catching this and sometimes don’t show symptoms. Even if Aunt Edna who’s 95 and had driven 8 hours to come see your new baby do not allow kissing. Even Grandparents and any other relatives. More babies die every year than the amount of babies that die from Covid every year. If they get mad then too bad, they’ll get over it. If they can’t respect your boundaries then they can leave. Their feelings do not mean more than your children’s lives!!

[@melissavolcy317]

Great information. May you and your kids have a very Merry Christmas 🎁🎄.

[@Autumnpearly]

@@melissavolcy317 you as well, thank you 😊

[@Rockieswoobie]

Yes be safe rsv has been bad this yea. 😢

[@mshunnybunz]

i love you so much ele 😭❤️🙌🏽 thank you for all you do!

[@sophiejameson4064]

About his Birth Certificate: if a couple is married the father's name is put on the certificate automatically. However a single mother can only put the father's name on the certificate with his consent. Similarly the father cannot add himself to his child's birth certificate without the consent of the child's mother. It makes a lot of sense. To be of use, birth certificates should be truthful. Allowing mothers to single handedly name the father without consent? So I could name some famous bloke. Or a stalker could claim to be my child's dad. If Colin Ireland's father wasn't recorded on his birth certificate it's just as likely that it was a result of his father having deserted the little family as it is down to his mother leaving it off, IYKWIM.

[@ninachkah13]

Colin exponentially cared more about immediate notoriety, than the actual murdering. A true serial killer wouldve loved how no one was on his tail. Killing seemed to not be part of his motivation at all

[@cartiaking3377]

my grandad was a detective in romford during this case. for those that don’t know, romford is in essex like southend. he was often asked to go to different towns in the county and in london to help with different things. i grew up with so many stories from him. he worked the peter sutcliffe case and was at the arrest, he investigated the kray cases etc. he once told me how he was asked to go to london to fill in for an officer who wasn’t able to make it into work that day. he had to decline, because my mum (a toddler/young child) was really ill and nobody else could care for her as my grandma was extremely busy at work (she was a legal secretary). he said he was ‘bloody well glad’ he didn’t go, because that force had found andrew collier and his cat that day. he passed a couple years ago, and i was always too young to REALLY ask him his stories. now that i’m an adult, i’m not able to. but it’s so fascinating being related to a man who had a part in a load of cases and to hear one of them from eleanor