The Kingdom of the Vandals

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Thersites the Historian

Thersites the Historian

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@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 6 жыл бұрын
Most people nowadays don't realise that the Vandals were an actual ethnic group and not just a generic word for someone who likes to destroy things for the fun of it.
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It is racist to use that word in negative connotations. The "saxon" on the other hand... Eww
@Littlegoatpaws
@Littlegoatpaws 5 жыл бұрын
Late Antiquity fascinates me more than most other time periods. Good little lecture on a seldom brought up topic, the Vandal Kingdom.
@Kunumbah1
@Kunumbah1 2 жыл бұрын
This is more like Early Dark ages
@thebrocialist8300
@thebrocialist8300 5 жыл бұрын
‘Oi! To the World!’ - King Geiseric
@ComradeHellas
@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@janektarnogrocki2898
@janektarnogrocki2898 2 жыл бұрын
Wenedzi (Veneti) after Wandale (Vandals) - ancient Arian (Slavic peoples) living in Central and Eastern Europe. The etymology of the word Wandal comes from name of river Węda, Wenda /venda/ (today Wisła, Vistula). Wenda pronounced in the old Polish language with a nasal: wanda - ("water, fishing"), Baltic slavic: vandene ("water nymph") or vanduo ("water, wave"), Germanic: Wenedka (Lusatian, Slavic woman). Wanda is also an ancient Polish female name that is still being used today
@weilandiv8310
@weilandiv8310 2 жыл бұрын
Geiseric seems like just the man I need to head up our new sales dept.
@atticusp6592
@atticusp6592 2 жыл бұрын
Man it's a shame that Kingdom didn't survive, imagine how fucking cool it'd be to have a Germanic ruled North African Kingdom
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 10 ай бұрын
Actually when the Nazis occupied French North Africa in World War Two, German propaganda made the most of the fact that their ancient Germanic kinsman had had a kingdom in that area -Irwin Rommell and all that!
@tagmata1872
@tagmata1872 18 күн бұрын
Can’t imagine they’d stay Germanic for long, every other Germanic successor state eventually merged with the Roman population and started speaking local Latin dialects, and considering how much of a major Latin city Carthage was by this point theyd likely be the same. Either that or they get overthrown, there’s really no way for this kinda system to work long term, if even the Mongols couldn’t pull it off I doubt the vandals could
@KohanKilletz
@KohanKilletz 6 жыл бұрын
Hello! I am an Undergraduate in History at the University of Arizona. Next Semester I will be working on my capstone, which is a documentary about the Pagans who resisted Christianization in Late Antiquity- The Middle Ages. I wondered if you minded helping me with my project in any way. I personally love your videos, very informative and entertaining.
@ThersitestheHistorian
@ThersitestheHistorian 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kohan, I'm glad to hear that you enjoy my work. I would be glad to assist if I can. I would suggest that you check out Ramsay MacMullen's Christianity and Paganism in the Fourth to Eighth Centuries if you haven't already. In addition, Anthony Kaldellis' Procopius of Caesarea: Tyranny, History, and Philosophy at the End of Antiquity is good, since Kaldellis shows that Procopius was probably pagan. I'll let you know if I think of anything else- that is similar to a topic that I did some seminar papers on a few years back, but I am hardly an expert on that particular topic. Good luck and let me know how it goes.
@KohanKilletz
@KohanKilletz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@ArchYeomans
@ArchYeomans 6 жыл бұрын
Do research on Pyrenean pagans. They were the ones who probably resisted Romanization and Carthaginization (are those words? lol). Today, you will see festivals in the Pyrenees that are reminiscent of Celtic/Iberian/Aquitani origins and now are co-opted by Christianity.
@Navarraforever
@Navarraforever 6 жыл бұрын
Vandals was Germanic-Nordic tribe, fisrt ruled south of Spain, after ruled North Africa and isles Balearics, after conquers again Hispania with Arabs, for this Andalusia called Al andalus in arabic means Vandalus in latin....funny.
@ComradeHellas
@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын
@@Navarraforever good to know
@ArchYeomans
@ArchYeomans 6 жыл бұрын
Vandals, along with the Suebi are the least understood of the Germanic tribes that conquered Iberia. Awesome.
@Navarraforever
@Navarraforever 6 жыл бұрын
Vandals was Germanic-Nordic tribe, fisrt ruled south of Spain, after ruled North Africa and isles Balearics, after conquers again Hispania with Arabs, for this Andalusia called Al andalus in arabic means Vandalus in latin....funny.
@romtroy3296
@romtroy3296 5 жыл бұрын
@George Washington My previous comment was deleted so I will write again: Suebi - Suavi (Slavi) were ancestors of Slavs. But sort of Germanic language could be used as lingua franka in Magna Germania.
@morranon7340
@morranon7340 5 жыл бұрын
@George Washington The Vandals are not Serbian. They are a Germanic Tribe that came from Scandinavia in the 2nd century BC, long before the slavic people came in the 6th century AD.
@romtroy3296
@romtroy3296 5 жыл бұрын
@George Washington "so I’m right when i say that poles are Serbs, beside that you have a bunch of seebian toponyms" What is the difference between Polish and Serbian?
@morranon7340
@morranon7340 5 жыл бұрын
@George Washington The only one who needs to open a book is you, the Vandals are no Serbs. The same goes for Goths and Suebi. Also Germanic. Why do you think their languages are germanic ones? Slavs lived eastwards. The name Vandal comes from the region of their origin, and thats the province of Vendel in Sweden. The Wends who were a slavic group are differnt people. The Romans calles the Wends "Veneti" but the Vandals "Vandilii", they are not the same. Even Wikipedia states: "Some medieval authors applied the ethnonym "Vandals" to Slavs: Veneti, Wends, Lusatians or Poles. It was once thought that the Slovenes were the descendants of the Vandals, but this is not the view of modern scholars." So just because some people have mistaken the Vandals for Slavs in the middle ages doesnt proof anything. Historians all around the world nowdays argree that the Vandals are a Germanic Tribe. Even the formation of Slavic ethnic nuclei came to this conclusion. Shame on yourself kiddo
@stehfreejesseah7893
@stehfreejesseah7893 14 күн бұрын
The band the vandals are awesome! Josh Freise is on of the best drummers out there.
@gunsing8054
@gunsing8054 4 жыл бұрын
I am from North Africa, I hold the origin of Vandals
@diyar3219
@diyar3219 2 жыл бұрын
Vandals originate from Europe, they just ended up conquering parts of North Africa
@UTubeIsTrackingYou
@UTubeIsTrackingYou 6 жыл бұрын
19:10 Commentary and graphic: "imprisoned Huneric" - you mean Hilderic : )
@parisite99
@parisite99 5 жыл бұрын
It confused me too.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
In their Arianism and policy of keeping separate from the Romans The Vandals were typical of the first generation of barbarian kingdoms
@BroadwayRonMexico
@BroadwayRonMexico 2 жыл бұрын
The Vandals kept it a lot longer, however
@deckiedeckie
@deckiedeckie 5 жыл бұрын
Asturica (the city in the Suevi land is the modern Astorga)
@goldenrepublic6848
@goldenrepublic6848 4 жыл бұрын
I wish this kingdom never fell
@radonrodan8332
@radonrodan8332 4 жыл бұрын
Edit: it would be inevitable that the vandal kingdom the would collaspe during the Islamic invasion,internal problems like a revolts where the Byzantine intervention to invade the vandal kingdom to end "oppression" if the vandal kingdom continued to exist.
@goldenrepublic6848
@goldenrepublic6848 4 жыл бұрын
Arturo Cuevas NOOOOOO
@SDArgo_FoC
@SDArgo_FoC Жыл бұрын
@@goldenrepublic6848 If the Byzantines did not try, Justinian didn’t pursue his reconquest, therefore they aren’t bankrupt and low in soldiers when the Islamic invasions came. If they have better resources , the Byzantines would be a shield for the vandals and defend Africa.
@IllicitGreen
@IllicitGreen 5 жыл бұрын
ur content is exceptional! r u the narrator?
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
Am I me are you you?
@Ali-dd5iq
@Ali-dd5iq 13 күн бұрын
The migration of the Vandals to Algeria was not a conquest but rather a migration, which was followed by religious wars. Rome, or what is referred to as Caesar's Rome, was situated in Algeria. Italy was considered a colony, which helps explain the unclear reasons for the decline of Rome. Western Rome encompassed the center of Algeria up to the Malwia River, currently within Morocco. The religious landscape included Arius, Christians, and Judaism. Eastern Algeria represented Christian Rome, with Constantine as the capital city and religious centers such as Hippo and Petra to the west of Hippo. Maps from French and Catalonian open archives indicate the presence of the holy city Baca in the center of Algeria, east of Algiers. The Vandals' migrations bear similarities to those referenced in the Quran. However, it appears that Muslims interpret the verses incorrectly. Muslim records lack clarity regarding the origins and geography of Islam. Saudi Arabia is known as the land of the Qarmatians, who Muslims claim created a new Kaaba. There is a lack of authentic records detailing the rise and decline of the Vandals, although the wars and events of the Vandals seem to align with Muslim history, suggesting a potential discrepancy in calendars. Certain events mentioned in the Quran align with Vandal events. For example, Surah Rome describes the defeat and subsequent triumph of the Romans, which correlates with the Rhine crossing where Vandal tribes allied with Rome against the Franks. Surah Toubah verse 25 references the Battle of Ḥunain, possibly corresponding to the city of Honaine in western Algeria, known since the Roman era. Honaine is situated in a district called Tlemcen whch is called the capital of Ziane. Unfortunately, Europeans tend to distort history, with many Algerian cities, particularly larger ones, inhabited by people claiming descent from Andalusian (Vandalusian) ancestors. Western Rome's decline was not military defeat but conversion to Islam, perplexing European historians. In contrast, Christian Rome was supposedly defeated by God according to the Quran, with no survivors to recount the events. the Quran mentioned it as natural disaster in Surah Ahzab. In your specialization in Vandal history, I hope you consider these points, as they may illuminate missing pieces of the puzzle. Dan Gipson and Patricia Crone challenged Muslims to prove Islam's origin in Saudi Arabia, but no scholar has provided a satisfactory answer. Gipson claimed Petra was the heart of early Islam, but the Petra in Jordan was ruins named by European archaeologists, while the real Petra lies in Algeria, west of Hippo exist on old maps made in euope. This explains why 70% of the wars between Muslims and Europeans were conducted by Algerians, and it also clarifies why there were almost no Christians in Algeria and North Africa, while there are almost 30% Christians in Egypt and the Middle East.
@99PMoon
@99PMoon 3 жыл бұрын
Others have said that the Vandals perceived a betrayal from Rome. Which led to the sacking of Rome.
@celesteadeanes4478
@celesteadeanes4478 5 жыл бұрын
What are the earliest descriptions of these people? What were their inital motivations to leave their origin point?
@thebrocialist8300
@thebrocialist8300 5 жыл бұрын
Same factors that led all manner of Germanic tribes to leave their homelands during the migration period.
@lowersaxon
@lowersaxon Жыл бұрын
Rain, Storm, Bad soil, Hunger, The Huns.
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
The overwhelming urge to rape and pillage
@tzazosghost8256
@tzazosghost8256 7 ай бұрын
To a Christian, even an Arian, Rome was a holy city. The tendency for Catholics to describe Vandals and Goths as 'sacking' Rome is very disingenuous. They would have seen their entry as part pilgrimage, part rescue of the holy city. Much as to Arians, the birthplace of Arius in North Africa would be viewed as sacred. The Catholic Church has spent a thousand years trashing what they see as heretical.
@tagmata1872
@tagmata1872 18 күн бұрын
That’s just like, literally untrue on all levels, Rome has been sacked by Christians more than by any other group, while they may hold some reverence for its history and significance they were all secular rulers first and foremost. We know from Byzantine accounts (who were not fans of the papacy) that they recovered a lot of treasure from Rome when they took Carthage.
@Oscuros
@Oscuros 5 жыл бұрын
Vandal in common English means someone who breaks things for the sake of it. Vandalism is often the offence code attached to criminal damage crimes. Clearly it's a historical connotation, like with being frank, a philistine, or just a barbarian in general, although the samaritans get a good rep phonologically.
@tzazosghost8256
@tzazosghost8256 7 ай бұрын
The English word is Wendle, which means to wander and is related to wend
@hamzaalmdghri8741
@hamzaalmdghri8741 4 жыл бұрын
There were agreements between the Berbers and the monotheistic Arian tribes against the polytheistic Roman Empire that killed its opponents of the creed.
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 4 жыл бұрын
The main reason is that it was Roman territory, so they took it back.
@alarik36
@alarik36 6 жыл бұрын
I am a amateur researcher, thorougly interested in the Great migration age. And Rome was sacked by both Visigoths and Vandals. The vandals/vandalos who came from Väner lake area? Earliest name Vænir(1000c) and *Vændir(5-800c?). Some 2000 years ago probably *Vendiz. So VendilaR, "Vandal" probably means "small tribe from Vänern". *Vendiz, should mean "turner", "tide- and floodlake". Still the verb wenden and noun wende is used in german meaning "turn:" and "turning point". The vandals can have originated around Väner lake in west Sweden. Twothousand years ago the name might have been *Vendiz, meaning "the Turner, the tide- and floodlake." The lake is known for an unusual flood in spring. So a vandal's original name VendilaR could mean "small tribe from Väner lake(area)". The migration started most certainly because of drastic climate change around 550 BC, when weather turned from tempered mediterranean climate to a harsh nordic climate in one generation.
@ComradeHellas
@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын
@Danijel Kenda Untrue, the Vandals were Germanic, slavs didn't even inhabit east europe at the time.
@ComradeHellas
@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын
@Danijel Kenda I love my balkan neighbours (Serbs/Albanians), they claim everything is their, despite concrete historical evidence. You live in your own world that you are the center of attention, in reality you are just a shithole so you need to claim other country's history as yours. Love from Greece.
@ComradeHellas
@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын
@Danijel Kenda Didn't bother to read, but good for you, you have a wild fantasy, you should write fiction stories my friend.
@ComradeHellas
@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын
@Danijel Kenda Serbian ultra-nationalist claims everything 1000 years before Slavic migration in Europe was Serbian.
@stimorolication9480
@stimorolication9480 4 жыл бұрын
@@ComradeHellas You didn't know Adam and Eve were Serbian?? 😂 These delusional Nationalists are so funny.
@dannyfriar5653
@dannyfriar5653 2 жыл бұрын
"The pump don't work cause the Vandals took the handle" - Bob Dylan
@jacobe.l.jensen9260
@jacobe.l.jensen9260 3 жыл бұрын
I think that some of the blue Visigoth's lines of migration are missing! (1:22) The lines should also go up to areas in and around Sweden and Gotland. (Also perhaps Jylland in Denmark. close to the sound: Gotland?) Just a thought from Denmark :-)
@khadidja6731
@khadidja6731 4 жыл бұрын
What was their language?
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
Proto - German presumably.
@tzazosghost8256
@tzazosghost8256 7 ай бұрын
Vandalsk, a dialect of Gothic so we're told. The few examples we have do suggest this.
@sunnyboy4553
@sunnyboy4553 6 жыл бұрын
I love learning about this period from the end of the Roman Empire to Medeival Europe. I never really understood this transition before even though I took a course in The Early Middle Ages in college decades ago. What do you think of the Black Nobility? These supposedly were wealthy Toman families who were able to escape the fall of Rome with enough of their wealth to establish themselves as a wealthy class in Venice and Genoa up to the present time and ate still in charge of banking dynasties. Do they really exist? Do they rerally still control the world of finance?
@Navarraforever
@Navarraforever 6 жыл бұрын
Vandals was Germanic-Nordic tribe, fisrt ruled south of Spain, after ruled North Africa and isles Balearics, after conquers again Hispania with Arabs, for this Andalusia called Al andalus in arabic means Vandalus in latin....funny.
@biryanilover9327
@biryanilover9327 4 жыл бұрын
@@fabiank1770 the whole world is Slavic bro
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 4 жыл бұрын
@@fabiank1770 It was Germanic not slavic, do not be stupid...
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 4 жыл бұрын
@@fabiank1770 As a person from Western Slavic descent a Pole, Slavic land back then started around the Venedian area who were Slavs which is from river Vistula to Dniepr. To the west there were Germanic tribes like Vandals, Goths, Burgundians, Franks, Saxons among others. To the east nomads and to the south there were Sarmatians which Slavs apparently held close relations with. All this changed with the Hunnic and Avar invasions which pushed all the tribes west. Germanic tribes were pushed to the west of Elbe river and the lands were empty and taken by the Slavic people. The fact that Romans did not care about the differences between barbarians does not matter, Germanic people did exist. Widać że jesteś polakiem, nie wymyślaj historii o wielkiej Lechii i innych głupstw.
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 4 жыл бұрын
@@fabiank1770 "Księgi Rodzinne", prędzej podróbki na zasadzie taksówkarza który mówi że ma sygnet magnata. Chyba że faktycznie, to je zanieś do muzeum lub do specjalistów i wtedy wszystkich oświecisz. Jeśli chodzi o ród to jakie nazwisko i herb? To sprawdzę w moim herbarzu, ale nawet jeśli to sam fakt pochodzenia z rodu nie czyni z człowieka mądrego niestety. Przykładów zbyt wiele w historii: Bazyli Potocki, Dominik Zasławski-Ostrogski lub Stanisław Szczęsny Potocki. P.S.: To że Prusacy próbowali jak najbardziej upokorzyć słowian w 19-stym, a potem niemcy ogólnie w 20-stym wieku to jedno, ale na zachodzie też jest Francja która była nam przyjazna przez ten sam czas. Więc skupianie "zachodzu" (którego Polska jest z resztą częścią) w jedną masę jest krótko wzroczne. Pozatym większość historyków w tym momencie i tak dawno obaliła mit o Sławianach-Wandalach.
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong, they were Albanians.
@optimismize
@optimismize 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest general to have a mullet...lol
@Laocoon283
@Laocoon283 Жыл бұрын
"All used up" you have definitely said that about females before in your life 13:03
@MikeStoneJapan
@MikeStoneJapan 4 жыл бұрын
new sub for you
@ComradeHellas
@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын
Nicenean should be a better term
@YoYo-bf9hl
@YoYo-bf9hl 6 жыл бұрын
Vandal was russians ?
@YoYo-bf9hl
@YoYo-bf9hl 6 жыл бұрын
Factory New Rubber Boots , Africa so what ,Vandals was russian special forces , the freaking fake history from vatican not valid anymore
@graiant
@graiant 6 жыл бұрын
Nirth East Germanic from Sweden/Denmark jute land
@Navarraforever
@Navarraforever 6 жыл бұрын
Vandals was Germanic-Nordic tribe, fisrt ruled south of Spain, after ruled North Africa and isles Balearics, after conquers again Hispania with Arabs, for this Andalusia called Al andalus in arabic means Vandalus in latin....funny.
@stayrospaparunas3062
@stayrospaparunas3062 5 жыл бұрын
@E ahahaha...what theory is this? They were germanic tribes...like nazis with out laws
@marathonman1205
@marathonman1205 5 жыл бұрын
@E All of North Africa, not only Tunisia
@deckiedeckie
@deckiedeckie 6 жыл бұрын
Vandal is amisunderstood word in the modern world....specially in sheepland (N Amerika)....kind like anarchist....the real meaning of the word has been totally tergiversated ....
@gregoreastlander8112
@gregoreastlander8112 5 жыл бұрын
They was Slavic origin. Wanda = Vanda - It's name of king of Lechistan Vanda and people was called after King name Vandals !!!! Stop sharing legends
@ПредрагНиколић
@ПредрагНиколић 5 жыл бұрын
They are Serbs.
@TarebossT
@TarebossT 5 жыл бұрын
@@ПредрагНиколић lol :))
@morranon7340
@morranon7340 5 жыл бұрын
They are neither Slavic or Serbs. The Vandals were a Germanic Tribe that came into the area of modern-day Poland in the 2nd century BC, probably from Scandinavia. The first written Slavs came in the 6th century AD, thats 800 years later. Its impossible that the Vandals are Slavs, because they left their settlements in Poland 200 years before the Slavs came. The only one who shares legends here is you.
@ПредрагНиколић
@ПредрагНиколић 5 жыл бұрын
@@morranon7340 Slavs is the term from 5th century, before it was,, Serb", Vandals didn't left, only portion moved to Spain and Africa. Serbian Lusic dragon sign and Vandal sign are same. They both respected cult of wolf. So don't shit to me kiddo, go and learn something and then come to talk me about my history.
@morranon7340
@morranon7340 5 жыл бұрын
@@ПредрагНиколић The Serbs ARE slavs. How can the Serbs be there earlier, when the Slavs just migrated to the area in the 6th century? Also they spoke Vandalic, which is clearly a Germanic Language, and not a slavic one. Its very similiar to Gothic. The region of the Oder in Silesia was first under Celtic and then under Germanic domination, but never under Slavic domiation in ancient times. The Romans calles the Wends "Veneti" but the Vandals "Vandilii", they are not the same. The name Vandals comes from their origin, the province of Vendel in Sweden. Even Wikipedia states: "Some medieval authors applied the ethnonym "Vandals" to Slavs: Veneti, Wends, Lusatians or Poles. It was once thought that the Slovenes were the descendants of the Vandals, but this is not the view of modern scholars." Ive learned history, it just seems you didnt, "kiddo".
@stephenboyd6269
@stephenboyd6269 5 жыл бұрын
Orthodox is not Catholic, it's the opposite. You seem to not understand this, therefore you give out bad information which only serves to confuse those who wish to learn.
@ChevyChase301
@ChevyChase301 3 жыл бұрын
They were considered one in the same until the schism
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