The Largest Romhacking Website Just Shut Down...

[@erc3338]

I was even more surprised it had nothing to do with anything legal.

[@harryshuman9637]

Line any open source project, age and real life stuff prevents any project from going indefinitely.

[@solomani5959]

When I saw the title I immediately assumed it was Nintendo. But it’s just someone getting older. Get it.

[@erc3338]

Why do you both think it's someone growing up? Does Muta not show the twitter post where he mentions harassment and toxicity?

[@harryshuman9637]

@@erc3338 Did you watch the video? Muta also shows that harassment and toxicity wasn't the case, potentially.

[@MaxelWong]

Nothing gold can stay

[@RayTheSnivy]

NINTENDO NOOOO!!! Nintendo: What? Sorry, Force of Habit.

[@Superman72185]

Lol 😂 it's natural to think nintendo had anything to do with it... im surprised nintendo didn't go after them before

[@TicoDK]

@@Superman72185 thank the pirates for that, because if nintendo had nothing better to do they definitely would.

[@diegomedina9637]

​​@@Superman72185Mostly because they can't. Those sites never distributed the Roms themselves, just the files that needed to be patched onto your (Let's be honest here, nobody ever supplied their own roms) legally own dumps. Which is why Nintendo is a bit more lenient towards "Super Mario World 3: Mario's Autistic adventure" than they would be about Fan games.

[@akiraigarashi2874]

Read the title of the video and was just primed to get angry at Nintendo too lol

[@Justdont693]

😂 it was my first thought 😂

[@spyr0guy]

The only thing deadlier than Nintendo corporate: *Reddit-tier pointless drama*

[@DergPH]

real

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

@@spyr0guy real....

[@flyaway6671]

I appreciate things people put out on the internet but a lot of them are made by basement dwellers who are terrible socially and end up in these situations.

[@SleepyMook]

Real

[@paulw5039]

@@flyaway6671 It's a bit of a slippery slope. Basement dwellers have more time on their hands and are more inclined to start pointless drama than employed, happy, well-adjusted people. Thus much of social media discourse is dominated by the distorted and unhealthy opinions of people like this. Which in turn negatively distorts cultural discourse in general.

[@bloodborneonpc7]

Everything has just been awful these past 4 years

[@chemergency]

You mean decade. No one's going to remember the 2020's with any degree of fondness, if we can even make it to 2030 without WWIII happening.

[@DaRoachDoggJrr]

People say this every year lol

[@von_reginald4800]

I lost my cat this year on my birthday can't make this shit up, this year is hands down the worst to date

[@ronel7836]

​@DaRoachDoggJrr Yup, that how it goes, every damn time. I think it's just for dramatic "affect"

[@intruefaith7612]

Good news! It's only going to get worse...

[@4RILDIGITAL]

We've lost an important pillar of preservation and translation. It's bitterly ironic to see it wasn't because of legal actions but personal conflicts that such an institution has to end.

[@V1VISECT6]

Similar to TheISOZone's fate. I miss that site.

[@gutznblxssxms]

the devs need to patch this bug where everything keeps going bad this year

[@dragonshiny7321]

Someone must be on the servers and got bored this year, because there hasn't been a single week before something new pops up

[@memeticist]

Realistically this bug has been around since 2020 at least.

[@LandonEmma]

Fr

[@wdfghjkl]

Nah it's just a skill issue

[@Tiasung]

Its not a bug, its people using exploits to do things that were unintended in the system.

[@renblur]

Portuguese gaming community being pelted by this. It's messed up.

[@michaelbuckers]

Right? How are they gonna play Smurfs now?

[@aeriumsoft]

eita porra

[@jaydub2546]

It’s fine there’s like 50 other sites like this

[@renblur]

@@jaydub2546 true but if they crack down on them all that'd be terrible.

[@CokesAndTokes]

​@austinlee3458 they can't really Crack down on onion rom sites. But most people won't touch tor with a 12 foot pole.

[@QuiteLunacy]

"Let me put on these nightmare goggles" Everything looks the same.

[@mariatelos]

They do nothing.

[@WinterTreat]

Nice profile pic 🤣🤣🤣. I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@blazewagon5677]

Everything looks better*

[@QuiteLunacy]

@@WinterTreat 😈

[@AG3n3ricHuman]

I'm stealing this line.

[@Lum1num]

For fucks sake, i was just reminiscing about vimms

[@saransfire]

It wasn't vimms

[@bu9ra]

I thought they shut down vimm when I saw the thumbnail, had a little heart attack there.

[@garfieldfan925]

@@bu9raThey practically did

[@scorwtf]

I thought it was vimms aswell

[@originalcomment4818]

@@bu9ra Vimm is only alive on paper now. Because for what corcerns game preservation at least a third of the games got struck down not long ago.

[@danielclark-hughes692]

These aren't the roaring 20s, they're the warring 20s.

[@xxmodzhaxsxx7910]

Just as the horse and the buggy died out, so too will anything else considered old and obsolete. That is the unfortunate natural order of progression

[@All-due-respect-I-disagree]

They were called the roaring 20s due to a huge wealth disparity Too much money in the hands of a few

[@TheStickCollector]

More like the (second) great depression, because we never got the 20's. At that rate I don't even want to know what the 2030's would bring.

[@mateoleon1301]

@@TheStickCollector I just thought about that, too, how the 2020’s is just the Great Depression, but bigger, which I called “The Greater Depression”, with how the current events messed everything up. Now I feel like that this is the end of the world as I know it. I just hope the something will change for the better one day.😢

[@vinsanity40k]

it's a modern day war of the roses

[@holaxiom]

"Time to party like it's 2023" is a more and more accurate quote for our times unfortunately.

[@souta95]

And we thought 2020 was bad...

[@TwistedMe13]

how about 2019? We haven't had a good year since.

[@minionbazz]

​@@souta95to be fair, the effects of 2020 (specifically lockdown) are noticable in society.

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

​@@minionbazzonly to weak people 😂

[@I_H_M_N]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing hello alpha male, how many people did you touch without consent?

[@danm6695]

Sounds like a ton of childish behavior from self entitled people. Why do something for people when the appreciation level is low. It’s always the 1% that ruins good things.

[@Shionfromyt]

The saddest part is, I've been using this site for years. Kudos to all the translators and thank you for the memories o7

[@SlavTiger]

so many games i never could have played because there were no english versions i could buy, so i had to dump the japanese version and patch it, otherwise id have never been able to enjoy them

[@Shionfromyt]

@@SlavTiger 👌

[@FR3SHM3AT]

This makes me sad just reading this comment

[@RodimusPrimal]

I was a submission reviewer on the site with some of my own projects hosted. I was very surprised about how things were going to be handled back in December and I was aware of some of the drama even then. However, not being a part of it only made it quite the shock when the site changed on August 1st. I can only hope a new solution is made soon for all the projects there. Some of the people who made some of the oldest hacks and translations are no longer with us.

[@Frigorito3975]

CANT HAVE SHIT NOWADAYS :.(

[@Superman72185]

Well.... the world will probably end soon! So get ready

[@bsherman8236]

@@Superman72185 ppl say this since 2k and 2012

[@matty4351]

​@@Superman72185the world's been ending for a billion years

[@deoxysandmew2162]

You 'vill eat ze bugs, and be happy!

[@grantbishop1961]

​@@Superman72185according the the declassified CIA documents titled " The Adam and Eve story" about the earth cataclysm that happens every 7 thousand years or so. We are way overdue for a reset. Even Plato mentioned this in his telling about Atlantis.

[@MetagrossOverlordX]

Reading the comment section...ayup, no one here actually follows the ROMHacking scene and autoassumes it's a C&D and not the webmaster of the site being a moron God bless Mutahar for being an Aeon Genesis enjoyer

[@SuperBupDX]

I saw a twitch chat either last night or 2 days ago that claims it was an internal issue, as someone who found the site like 3 months ago im very happy it was as such

[@Skyte100]

Force of habit.

[@CoreDreamStudios]

Actually I've been in the scene for a bit with SMW Central and others, it could be a C&D, especially knowing Nintendo's crazy arc these days.

[@burtreynolds8030]

Are you expecting the average KZbin commenter to know anything about the “rom hacking scene”? “Ugh grandmas know nothing of the JNCO jeans scene” is how you sound

[@ChronoMoogle]

Nintendo lawyers be like: man that’s wack, we didn’t even need to shoot

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

You clearly didn't even watch this video 😂

[@ArbiterofMoths]

​@@DaveeeeeeyhowyoudoingYou clearly didn't understand the comment

[@zynux8252]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing His comment was a joke in how it wasn't Nintendo's doing this time. Read it again

[@8ligh7]

​@@DaveeeeeeyhowyoudoingWhen you're so excited to call out people that thinks its Nintendo that your reading comprehension drops down to 0. 🤣

[@simpletutorialsdaily1549]

It's heartbreaking to see such a pivotal institution being shuttered due to interpersonal drama. The retro gaming community has lost a significant resource, and it feels as if we've taken a step back in preserving the history of gaming.

[@snintendog]

Thank Attract17 AKA Near

[@CrimsonCrimesYT]

Goddamn, first Vimms, now this... I need to start archiving faster.

[@harryshuman9637]

Do it, I nearly completed my PS3 games backup.

[@ohiograssman1564]

Good point.

[@mariatelos]

Better start with Zophar's Domain, before Nintendo's lawyers do.

[@zxriaa]

vimms still works?

[@kbiznaz]

⁠@@zxriaaabout 1/3 of the games on vimm's has been removed, so yes in a sense

[@wd-4059]

The gamer posture at 7:06 is actually bomboculus

[@popularmvp]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 caught lacking

[@LGPanthers1]

@@popularmvp as per usual

[@AspieMemoires]

Did you mean Bombastic? Bomboculus doesn’t exist as a word lmao I got so confused for a second.

[@brwnkd3795]

@@AspieMemoiresNo he said bomboculus

[@jellocook]

@@AspieMemoires he just invented a word

[@s1nistr433]

A lot of the reason they haven't been DCMA'd is because they release patches (like bps patches) rather than actual ROMs, so it's legally 100% the author's code so they're allowed to distribute it.

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

Nope, GTA sued people for the same exact reason 😂

[@SlavTiger]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing doesnt mean they were legally in the right, they likely just drag it on until the defendant runs out of money if they know they cant win, which is a bullshit practice

[@firehedgehog1446]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing Correction: GTA TRIED, if I remember right, it didn't stick because Take-Two was legally in the wrong & so couldn't make the lawsuit stick, plus the only reason they did it is because single-player mods for GTA 5 were keeping people off of GTA Online, and if people aren't playing on GTA Online, then they aren't paying for Shark Cards

[@Galanthos]

​@@DaveeeeeeyhowyoudoingThe difference here is almost certainly the existence of a clause in the EULA that prohibits modification of the code. These older games do not have EULA's or clickwrap agreements that specifically limit the way you can modify their code. But even given that, Take Two dropped this case, either because they realized that their case was in no way solid, or because the public backlash was a bigger threat to their sales than mods could ever be.

[@WilliamSellers-kn9yx]

@@GalanthosTbf those are barely enforceable since you can’t read them before purchase and even then they have to be easily understood and it would be pretty easy to argue nobody knows the terms of the eula making it hard to say it’s easily understood.

[@bluemario5266]

Surprised it wasn’t Nintendo who did this

[@truindividual]

I'm glad RHDN totally archived their stuff. I been a frequent user for a few years. I'm so sad it's being shut down. From Final Fantasy to Streets of Rage to Sonic, love them hacks man. Thanks for the memories

[@thatonebabywhale]

I’m tired of living through significant events in history whether it be IRL or online . Life needs to slow down again , since COVID so much has changed

[@thorscape3879]

Life was never slow, you just weren't paying attention.

[@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn]

​@@thorscape3879 no man I was paying attention and it was never as fast as this

[@nicodemuslee]

@@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn well 10 years ago when you were 6 yrs old you didnt really have the capacity to worry about everything like u do now

[@white_mage]

during the last 2 years, i learned that if there's something on the internet that you like you have to scrape it and store as much as you locally before it is gone.

[@AkagiRedSun]

Yup, MAME plus most of great 90s-2010 games rom will be gone pretty soon. I already stashed over +4000 games on external drive

[@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn]

but NOONE FUCKING TELLS ME HOW

[@evillecaston]

Yet another victim of Nintendo's legal... Wait, they didn't do it this time? It's all just drama? Well, that's just disappointing.

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

Your KZbin account is over 16 years old, meaning you have to be 26 years old unless you admit to breaking KZbin tos for making an account before the age of 13 years old.... What 26 year old has a animated profile picture 😂 only someone who watches henti

[@CommunistHydra]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing Stalker? I'm reporting you.

[@ArbiterofMoths]

​@@DaveeeeeeyhowyoudoingWhat are you on about bucko 😭

[@macaronitony6993]

@@DaveeeeeeyhowyoudoingYou must be lonely

[@macaronitony6993]

@@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing13 + 16 = 29

[@ThirtytwoJ]

FF4 translation was a nice bday present back in 96

[@anonisnoone6125]

The owners r such a bunch of pathetic losers. This is just sad.

[@lemonlime8949]

Lmao

[@pimplyface64]

It's not piracy if the company isn't selling the games anymore

[@SlavTiger]

and rom hacks are transformative media.

[@pimplyface64]

Sorry thought it said aren't

[@lasskinn474]

@@SlavTiger derivate works created with the patches retain original copyright - however the patches that were distributed were completely legal. it's just glubshiddo politics, the discord guys should've just made their own site if they got along long enough to get it done and not try a takeover.

[@louspowels7120]

watch the video smfh

[@crushycrawfishy1765]

Yes it is, The games may not be in stores or sold anywhere, but the IP/license is still owned by someone else. Saying it isn't piracy is like taking the wallet out of a dead guys pocket and saying "It's not stealing because he isn't alive"

[@DearAnem0ia]

Man, God really straight and went "You know what, 2024 is gonna be the worst year."

[@UncleUncleRj]

Man did this - not God. Just like in Eden, we keep fuckin shit up.

[@SairinEarthsea]

Agreed. I've started reading through the Bible, starting at Genesis, and have noticed God gives a guide/law/ commandment to keep them safe and then when someone does wrong they get punished. I really felt bad for Moses when he had to work in, pretty much, customer service for 40 years with those people constantly disobeying and then complaining. @@UncleUncleRj

[@bloopbloopbloops]

you must have just been born within the last 15 years then

[@DearAnem0ia]

@@bloopbloopbloops 2001, which was also a shitty year because of 9/11 and the fact I was born :/

[@Jojxz]

trust me, next year will seem like an apocalypse, might even be one.

[@TheDoomMaster]

20 years down the drain over pointless playground drama...

[@lumpy1093]

I have unleashed thousands of feral toads in a mall.

[@galactic-hamster7043]

What makes a toad feral perchance

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@galactic-hamster7043 Druids who forgot they were druids when they shapeshifted into toads.

[@lumpy1093]

@@galactic-hamster7043 funny enough it's a real phenomenon that can happen in any species, while I wasn't thinking about what that actually meant, feral often refers to animals that suffer from rabies! :)

[@harmonicposting]

@@galactic-hamster7043you can’t just say “perchance”

[@renblur]

I feel like this can only be bad.. wtf.

[@procrastinates]

The Copyright system on the internet was a mistake. It has singlehandedly contributed the most to making video games, shows, and movies lost media.

[@AlexFurry]

The interpersonal stuff happens with all the forums, websites, Otaku or fandbase scene online and stuff like that.

[@awsom_Adam]

0:04 “age is just one of those things that man cannot escape from” dude, you almost scared me, we're not even 5 seconds into the video.

[@magicalcapi9148]

Thank you Muda for covering this. That website was a huge community service. Translations and new shine for old games, a celebration of retro. There's nothing like it, and it'll take some time for a replacement to emerge. To be fair, I'm surprised it was all on one person shoulders. I hope a more community focus site exist, we need it.

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

Back when I was younger in the 2000s I always thought emulation was so close and all we needed was another decade or two and you'd be able to go online and get any game from any console that isn't current and play them all in the same computer. I never expected we'd start regressing from that amazing achievement and get to a point where some people would wish for the times back when I wished for the future.

[@saransfire]

I love old games, sad to see emulation websites be shut down.

[@taku-ruki]

Hearing Background Muta mention SMT while playing SMT3 was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@Sawolf151]

the most surprising thing is the whole archive being only 12GB, wow

[@quarium5681]

A lot of those patches are smaller than half a megabyte haha

[@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn]

How do you download the database

[@JaceyMitchell]

Oh man. I'd only gotten into the whole scene in 2020. It was a weird time for me, not only because the big C just hit, but my fiancé died of cancer on November 7, 2019. Diving into retro games became a way for me to cope with that loss, reliving the adventures my forever-love and I had together when we were kids. There were some great Fire Emblem hacks on there. I'll miss it. I hope the community will be able to find a new home without fragmenting too much.

[@goldylover1000]

Why, is it always the creator of something groundbreaking in emulation always acts like the biggest morons ever. Like 1st Aethersx2 Then yuzu for putting in tears of the kingdom fixes behind a paywall so they get sued And now this. It’s, always just toxic stupidity that kills emulation.

[@illusionofquality979]

I might be mistaken, but weren't the fixes for totk and not botw?

[@Sm0ke821]

wait that was what went down with yuzu like damn thats stupid

[@MiseRaen]

Its being human amd making dumb mistakes that might work for the short term, some shorter than others.

[@francisquebachmann7375]

What's the issue with AethersX2? I want to know the controversy behind it.

[@yea9725]

same with team xecuter when they were the first ones to make a custom switch os but then ended up making a paywall app to pirate games

[@pen8142]

It really only takes one toxic person to poison the well. Occam's razor cuts towards Nightcrawler in this instance. I'm glad there are people willing to create alternative avenues.

[@AuraArondight]

This is basically the burning of the Library of Alexandria all over again

[@tylerarnold9072]

12:55 doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit. hey muta, guess what, do it. We need backups for generations to come for even history's sake, if no one wants to play them. P.S. ive been here since the beginning, mw2 gameplay and creepypastas, and still love your channel keep doing what you do :D

[@TheWeebinar]

Sad to see something like this happen. Good on you for preserving this kind of thing. Also, why don’t you just go ahead and host a website like that? If you love the community and what they do so much it seems like a no-brainer.

[@ohajohaha]

Good thing that most translation romhacks to my language are hosted on a local site, thanks to that new romhacks will still be uploaded to a renowned place instead of getting spread out.

[@RightsForZombies]

So glad to see some SMT love here. Everyone talks about Persona these days without realising it’s a spin-off series from SMT, and SMT is criminally underrated. I very much relied on sites like this to play a bunch of Atlas games. Honestly, the fact this happened over internet drama is insane and disappointing. There are so many series I love that weren’t initially released in English or took literal years to be released in my region so I relied on sites like this and even gameFAQs written guides that explained which buttons to press as well as translating. It broadened my gaming horizons so much and fuelled my love of gaming to have access to translations. This was the worst possible time for this in a lot of ways but it would have been even worse years back when there weren’t as many sites around to pick up the slack. All this over an internet shitfit. Jesus.

[@JorgeGomez-xo6nk]

I mean I never got into it because so many of the entries are stuck on old hardware. So unless you’re emulating it’s almost pointless trying to find a feasible way to play them. Except five of course

[@iloveemiliaandrem9443]

I agree man you would need 3 different consoles if you don't want to emulate. #1. A 3ds to play smt IV,smt IV apocalypse,strange journey Redux, Devil survivor 1/2 remakes,Persona Q1/Q2 , Smt 1/2(NES,SNES,& GBA versions), and smt if(English patch). #2.A PS vita/PSP to play persona 1(PSP/ps1), both persona 2's (PSP) and soul hackers 1 For PSP) #3. A PS3 to play Smt Devil summoner 1/2,and Smt Digital Devil saga 1/2. And finally Persona 3 FES for PS2 because persona 3 portable is Better and worse in so many different ways it would take a KZbin video to explain.

[@JorgeGomez-xo6nk]

@@iloveemiliaandrem9443 a majority of the library is stuck on old Nintendo consoles ☠️

[@iloveemiliaandrem9443]

Yeah and the price of old 3ds Atlus game's is ridiculous. And emulating 3DS and DS games is awkward, uncomfortable and the only 3ds emulator was taken out by Nintendo. Your best bet is to search around for a good deal IRL or buy a n3ds or 2DS XL online with prices around 130$-200$. Then homebrew/hack that sucker and install every game you could ever want on a 3DS with H shop. The 3DS library is worth it.

[@Walamonga1313]

Isn't SMT a spinoff series as well? Coming from Digital Devil

[@3up3rn0va]

You just reminded me I should play SMT 1&2 but I definitely need a guide 😂

[@FluffyBunniesOnFire]

0:42 Fun fact, this FF7 demake ROM was originally in Chinese, and I did the English translation for it, and modified the text engine assembly code. It used a rare MMC mapper that some common emulators didn't support. I miss hanging around this site.

[@bustergundo516]

Nice

[@erikahuxley]

Thank you.

[@ProblematicExistence]

We call it preservation, but the corporations call it piracy.

[@Otherfile]

i think they would call it an "excuse"

[@SharmV]

“Yeah bro imagine, we can sell merch in 50 years when the zoomers are boomers”

[@saibot23724]

It's not about the companies.

[@blackironwalterkus3851]

Has nothing to with corporations watch the video or read the description before speaking

[@OrdinaryMan1999-tn4hh]

If you hold your money in a bank the corporations will eventually call it theft.

[@basedcody781]

The pokemon rom hack rabbit hole is big i hope those are never taken down

[@DakotaofRaptors]

So many good and strange romhacks

[@Bladedcloud6159]

...So many things getting shutdown lately. Its either bittersweet or a breathe of fresh air.

[@404_kayjay_not_found]

As someone who's lost contact to a lot of folks from a years-long-grown-community that suffered the childish admin/founder just flipping a switch and taking everything offline on a whim over hurt feels (there had been negotiations trying to save it/take it off his hands), I sympathize with the folks that connected through this place only to see it come to this. I hope those who need to can salvage what they can.

[@JohnMaverick-w7c]

Downloaded the database as well, let's keep retro games alive for our childrens!

[@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn]

How do you do that?

[@ac31048]

I saw that post days ago. I'm glad you're covering it.

[@BallisticTip]

Neckbeards always ruin everything.

[@TrTai]

Man, I just pulled down some stuff just recently, playing some older titles, but insane to see it go down just after that. Glad it at least made it up to the Internet Archive to keep things around. and at that size definitely keeping a copy for myself. Definitely insane how much stuff people get up to behind the scenes, no matter what the truth is on who did what. Hopefully it gets into hands that can care for it but not holding out hope from how it seems.

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

The one time I expected Nintendo to be the villain isn't actually the one responsible here.

[@handytoolboy]

Honestly not surprised. I remember one of the older rom sites that shared roms via forum links shutdown from drama with mods fighting over a girl.

[@LandonEmma]

Man this is sad… some of the tools gone forever unknown hacks gone forever too. And I didn’t know there was controversy, like just keep it up

[@TheAxelay]

This is the most soul, gut wrenching year ever and I really thought last was absolutely terrible. As abit of a romhacker myself, I will and it is my duty to carry on for myself. So much for the sharing is caring side of things here. A new site may take over but I somehow doubt it. A hobby for one's self now sigh.

[@TwizzTBD]

3:42 this caught me way off guard lol

[@frostare]

Aw man, the behind the scenes of this whole situation certainly sucks! All the best for all affected parties in the future.

[@BTOptimizer]

Muta that intro scared the FUCK out of me the minute you said "AGE" DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT, MAN

[@tacaloking4]

its sad sights like this are retiring it reminds me of a old school anime sight that had ova in a time when anime was not so accessible. they basically uploaded rare ova and translated ova that never had official english subtitles. while there was not fighting that i know of they basically shut down for similar reasons as the beginning of the message of this sight.

[@ytnewhandlesystem42]

This incident reflects one important truth of life. It doesn't matter if it's the board of directors of a large company like EA, or the leader of a community, having overinflated ego and getting drunk on power can happen to anyone so it's important to keep such people in check and cutting ties earlier rather than putting up with them if the community is strong enough to begin with.

[@saricubra2867]

The scariest thing is erasing their own gaming past. I reminds me of George Orwell's dystopia by that alone, you can't erase the past.

[@1mariomaniac]

Oh, dang. I've been using CD Romance a lot lately, never knew Spike also had a ROM hack site, neat. That aside though, I had just moved past the destruction of Vimm's, and now this!? Jeez.

[@alexmark6580]

Spike is the goat. He does so much for video game data archiving.

[@DemonicAkumi]

Just got to that point in the video. If Muta can control the site, that would be truly epic.

[@mrsmith1938]

People have been beefing and having online wars since the Snes emulation days. Even the switch modding scene had people going to war

[@thechugg4372]

Evil wins once again in this sad excuse for a world

[@jakes-dev1337]

@@thechugg4372 quit the melancholy and do something with your time and effort, then.

[@Maximilian1990]

How dare those evil people protect their intellectual property 😢

[@tyldrthepark64]

Boo hoo life is so bad I’m crying and sobbing

[@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968]

⁠I’m confused. According to the video description, the site shut down due to drama between the owners. What does this have to do with “evil” or the “world?” How does a few people represent billions and millions of communities that have nothing to do with two drama people who can’t run a site right?

[@justabearbrowsingyoutube4968]

@@Maximilian1990this is off topic to the video and situation, but preventing old games from ever being public doesn’t protect any IP. Old games would get lost to time if not preserved.

[@Sporesirius]

Hi Muta, can you talk about the European Citizens' Initiative called Stop Destroying Video Games? It is part of the Stop Killing Video Games campaign by accursed farms, he also made a new video about it.

[@Rihcterwilker]

It happens time and time again. I remember Assembler games, which once was the hub for game prototypes, also imploded over personal drama and burnout.

[@MikeAruba69]

I'm gonna be so depressed if CDRomance shuts down. That is my go-to site currently.

[@_Buenisimo]

bro dont give them any ideas lmao

[@Kanecobond]

Shhh 🤫

[@procrastinates]

BRO SHHHHHH

[@RazorBladezX]

Shhhhh I just started using them a month ago

[@Walamonga1313]

🤫 But thanks for letting me knoe of that site, didn't know it

[@bradleydias425]

Oh, you've got to be kidding me. I've been downloading roms and backing up my collection because I have been watching your coverage of things.

[@kiranreilly4916]

All the normies who think this was a legal issue lmao. It was a clique of trans activists who shat up the site until its owner had enough and closed it down. The end.

[@anotherastronaut_]

@13:00 A champion's offer, only a fool would turn it down. Thank you Muta!

[@PauloVitorHMK]

Decades worth of gaming preservation GONE because a bunch of redditors couldn't get their shit together.

[@lawrencein]

According to other people who spoke to the site owner, it was just him being a dumbass who was completely unwilling to accept any kind of help.

[@LancesArmorStriking]

​@@lawrencein Old guard getting stubborn, a tale as old as time. Countless endangered languages and crafts were lost forever, because of old people's refusal to speak it with another speaker (whether trauma-related, or just personal beef). It often happens when the new people try to modernize and upgrade whatever was there, and the old legacy guy thinks it's being deleted or they're being usurped. At least in this case the site is still up. I'd download it now if I were you, getting Pokemon Uranium was much harder for me after Nintendo shut them down.

[@Glennquagmire1912]

Muta your voice is the only one that makse sense after a12 pk of coors bankwit, thank you for your sercive

[@JoeBee9]

Wow, who would have thought something as harmless as a ROM hacking site could have so much drama surrounding it.

[@okami283]

*Nintendo pats the back of their lawyers* Nintendo: Good job Lawyers: What? Nintendo: What?

[@WayneSimons]

Anyone think Muta would make an excellent librarian or school teacher the way he reads stories? lol

[@0PercentImagination]

The thing about Nightcrawler not being the victim sounds pretty plausible considering I have personally seen sites (and discord servers) implode because they were held up by a single person with a notably warped mindset.

[@SheenylHassan]

Universe: something awful happens Mutahar in the thumbnail: 😀

[@sharkuel]

Portugal was referenced, therefore I shall issue the obligatory "PORTUGAL CARALHO" statement to the world.

[@jzero3977]

It's no longer about copyright at this point. It's authoritarism, when they get to a point where they start shutting down projects that are not even making money in the first place that's basically telling the fans, no you're not allowed to have fun. The suits who have no experience in gaming and that are just there for profit need to go, not the people who actually care.

[@Random_Guy_20xx]

It wasn't a corporation this time. Did you even watch the video?

[@theultimatetrashman887]

Nintendo celebrating because a site hosting 40-ish year old games made by nintendo is finally down and they didn't even need their copy and paste cease and desist mail!

[@389OpiE]

Thank you for covering this I will now cry in the dark

[@kirpich158]

am I the only one, who when hears intros like this or topics describing age and death doesn't see it as a negative and just knows and understands that that's what awaits every live organism and every single human being?

[@myyoutubeaccount4167]

No.

[@Blu3bonic]

Thx you for helping your viewers to find better outlets for rom hacks n ik I Hate that nothing last forever including tech

[@SkegAudio]

what a bunch of cowards for shutting down!!!

[@arch_caff]

This is such a strange turn of events. I loved using the website. I’m glad everything was archived, but otherwise big yikes.

[@shadeaurion]

Genuinely sad to see. Decades of community created content will be lost. I spent a time as a Submission reviewer there. Even nominated a few submission reviewers on my way out. I guess the last bastion is RHDO and I know the guy who runs it. Talented group of modders with him too and honestly trying to do a good thing for mod/hack enjoyers. I've seen some shit on RHDO but it's like 6+ months old so it's either we have that or nothing. Since RHDN is going down and I'm no longer under and obligation to remain silent, I'm the infamous evil bully that apparently harassed DDS/Retro Tom into the 'No Slur' patch for Goemon. I wasnt allowed to say shit but NicheGamer just published straight up lies about the whole situation. What REALLY happened is that translators often do direct translation. Sometimes you have to pick the closest equivalent. Unfortunately a hurtful word was used and I pointed to site policy on hatespeech to them via DM and they were being harassed by free speech nut jobs and people pissed they included a slur and deactivated. So while NicheGamer directed people to my personal social media's, used my real name and really made it out like I bullied them offline or something stupid, DDS/RetroTom had deactivated and couldn't comment and NC who ran RHDN didn't want ANY controversy due to the legal grey area within which mods/hacks operate so I couldn't say anything while absolute psychos harassed me and made up insane bs to be insane about. But there you go. The true story. Crazy people made up lies to believe and harassed everyone when the truth was the translators chose a more era and region accurate word for a higher quality translation and inline with RHDN site policy 🤷 I left RHDN over that mess

[@puff-jiggly-puffgames5076]

At least you are still able to download. The only thing is no more new submissions as far as I know.

[@DirtyPlumbus]

Gaming is over. Stop buying their new stuff, and maybe they'll realize they don't own you.

[@tobyzilla2.074]

And support small indie developers directly

[@francisquebachmann7375]

​@@tobyzilla2.074unless they're like Phil Fish, which sadly many of them do.

[@user-ly1ko6be9t]

tobyzilla2.074 I've just returned to retroarch personally with the retro game champion romsets, a comfortable way to play older games

[@KetsubanSolo]

I mean that has nothing to do with why this site went down but yeh

[@PatriotJedi]

Im so glad i have all my physical collection as well as the rom files for every game i own backed up already. But im sure a new rom site will pop up in its place hopefully.

[@Dohvakiiin]

I almost had a heart attack thinking it was Vimm’s Lair 😂😅😅😅

[@pastapastel910]

1st rule of Vimm's Lair: we DO NOT talk about Vimm's Lair

[@musiceditsgeorgemichlarchi2058]

Don't jinx it

[@uselessturtlepie4030]

Vim is not a romhacks site lmao its just legit games

[@francisquebachmann7375]

Isn't that site shutdown already

[@liammcnicholas918]

@@francisquebachmann7375No, but Nintendo (and Sega, they’re not immune to this like many people believe due to the number of Sonic fan games) forced them to remove tons of ROMs off their site.

[@shaunriordan493]

Note to self: start collecting rom hacks of my favorite games before it’s too late.

[@NOIDEDU]

Autism may be a very important part of internet communities but its also their main enemy

[@AbdAbdAbdAbd]

underrated comment

[@sonicphoenix7]

real

[@mayconlcruz]

Hyperfixation is a great power that brings great responsibilities.