The New Playstation Is Very Disappointing...

[@HonduranMegatron]

Actually it wasn’t disappointing Because there was nothing about it to be hyped for

[@Yoshiinite]

Aren't you hyped that you can see a tree in more detail? A trashcan on the corner of the street? 🤯😂

[@Tommy3]

💀

[@gasracing5000]

But you can get it in the retro color way... lmfao 😂

[@12ealDealOfficial]

ONE GAME, I DON'T KNOW WHY

[@MrRaccoon879]

Your profile has Xbox game play, nice bait. I guess Phil's army will fight on forever.

[@pigsinspace9927]

The PS5 Pro costs $1100 here in south Africa. $1100 in a country where the minimum wage is $2/h

[@FrostDrift69]

yea thats sick. Im sorry its like that over there.

[@lucg4005]

At that point, I think it's probably a good thing. Basically a massive warning sign to not buy that piece of crap. 2$ an hour though is absolutely stupid. Not sure how much your expenses of taxes and grocery's are, but I hope your minimum wage is increased, cause 2$ is just dumb.

Its that Sony greed for you... they even changed the top faceplace insert locations to make you even buy new faceplates... let alone remove stand and disc drive... the disc drive your PS 1 2 3 4 5 had... well you are not getting it. And you pay more... just wait to see how Sony will rob the world with the PS6/PS6 "Pro" scam unless we boycott Sony... right now. Mark my words.

[@DOWNTOWNMAK]

Holy shit I would be hella rich in Africa then

[@KristenZianourry2015]

@@DOWNTOWNMAK congrats you figured out how gentrification works.

[@zielarzxx911]

Conclusion is, devs need to optimize their fucking games. Base PS5 would be enough if they did this.

[@ninjascroll1017]

Right. All of them probly wont optimize for ps5 pro either. Thats the other thing about pro is you dont even know if every game will take full advantage of it. Even now I play 3 or 4 games that really need a pro upgrade and none of them are getting a patch

[@zielarzxx911]

@ Yeah I agree, and don’t get me wrong I totally love the idea of upscalers like dlss for mid and low end rigs cause they can be usable for many years to come but everything would be fine playing native if devs would not be lazy. PS6 will have the same marketing strategy remakes, PSSR 2.0 and probably will still not hit 4k60 without compromises.

[@SuperSteph5]

Devs can't optimize games to run at 4k 60fps when the hardware isn't capable of that😂

[@MrBeetsGaming]

So tired of people whining about optimization as if they don't bother.... PS5 is literally about an RX 6700 GPU wise and you're running games that are coming out on PCs with way better hardware, sometimes even with ray tracing. It runs games quite well for what it is

[@cyberathlete]

What you're saying is that an RTX 2070 should run all modern games at 60fps, 4k, ray tracing on, high detail if the developers knew how to code better? Essentially you're looking at a 2070 in the PS5 and there are some games that need a 4080 to hit 60fps comfortably with ray tracing on.

[@LivingFire_BurningFlame]

Get a good OLED TV instead. People underestimate the difference a better TV can make.

[@izuna303]

monitor is more optimized for gaming not even a debate and oled is overrated af

[@Azemed]

Real bro i got oled mobile and its not much different then a cheap ips monitor​@@izuna303

[@tdg710]

@@izuna303 THIS

[@littlemacisunderrated412]

​@@izuna303That's what I thought, but then I actually saw the difference in person, and not over a commercial. OLED is absolutely gorgeous.

[@SuperMcbonez]

@@izuna303 If you are that bothered about optimisation get a PC. Consoles are best for lying on sofa with big TV. Not hunching over a monitor

[@JustSomeReptile]

Sony releasing a PS5 pro with no disk drive at $700 with barely any noticable improvement was never going to end good.

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

Ok old man. Stick with your trash ps5 og

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

😂

[@lDKJB]

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[@balthomemmoo4320]

@@herrforesight-Satanisking bad ragebait lol

[@wingsofthunder170]

​@@herrforesight-Satanisking PS5, OG? I don't see a need to "upgrade" from a new console, to a slightly more new console, let alone one without physical media .-.

[@symol30872]

Microsoft were smart to not bother with a mid-gen upgrade

[@Gucci23430]

Def .. series x is a great machine but sadly the exclusives for this generation besides forza have been ass hence why I sold mine and kept my ps5 because of the exclusives .. hopefully Xbox will drop a bomb in the next year or so

[@Guitarman5705]

Why would i pay that much for any console when playstation has done nothing but remaster games from last gen basically

[@robertlawrence9000]

Yeah there was a cross gen period.

[@bradhaines3142]

that's why i never got a ps5 to begin with, and the pro doesnt change anything. the only game i wanted was ragnarok, and it came out on ps4 anyway. well now its out on pc so i can play it WAY better than the ps5 pro can even do

[@lpvgs-817]

Isn't this why y'all loved Xbox series x to play old 360 games....

[@yeshennaidu5102]

​@@lpvgs-817 what does xbox have to do with this bro 😂

[@MrTheDarkKnightFan]

@@bradhaines3142 I bought a ps5 a year ago & I can bet that people skipping this generation are not missing on anything at all.

[@hightierplayers2454]

but not surprising.

[@Pgrat]

Congratulations

[@vibingweirdo9911]

@@Pgratno

[@firelegend7883]

1000 bucks is crazy because 700 plus game and a controller

[@collectiblesnrandomstuff544]

Idc im still getting it

[@Sw1ssT0ur3tt3s]

@@collectiblesnrandomstuff544 do what you want, bud. no matter how financially dumb it is, do what ya want

[@pseudo_negative]

The industry of Bigger and Better is ruining actual video games.

[@WyzszaKalibracjaPerspektyw]

Man theres still a lit of games on ps4 and 3 and pc new consoles are a scam

[@RussellSenpai]

Welcome to consumerism/

[@krob8823]

@@pseudo_negative As well as auto industry .

[@naliboi93]

Honestly this. Give us back our b-tier respectable 7.5/10 games again! Playing stuff like Wanted:Dead and Stranger of Paradise feels so refreshing after all these walking corridor simulator games that think they're movies. Lol, even God of War used to be so frantic even if it was relatively more straightforward compared to Devil May Cry or especially Ninja Gaiden. Luckily we have indies giving us quick experiences as well as grander stuff like Kena Bridge of Spirits. And now even the Chinese and Korean devs are coming in swinging all of the sudden with full paid releases rocking business practices that aren't as awful as what's became the norm (I fear they're simply building good faith to milk us dry later, but that's another conversation). Stellar Blade, and Wukong have been a remarkable change of pace.

[@mkhider_]

Almost double the price of a normal ps5 to make a shrub in the distance look better.

[@tacothunder2298]

people buy 4090s just for that as well because nothing in the gaming industry needs that gpu either. What is actually insane is how people defend paying more money for something when things should be getting cheaper.

[@thefury4815]

@@tacothunder2298 at least with the 4090 you’re getting frame rate on top of running everything on ultra. This you get…slightly better graphics

[@R3TR0J4N]

@@tacothunder2298 yea also if you are able to afford a 4090 I'm pretty sure there's a large chance that ones work being able to afford one also utilize the card for work related.

[@utopic1312]

@@thefury4815 granted but at the same time it's like using a lambo for groceries,if you're using a 4090 for just gaming you're wasting your money but at least it can do other things but once the PS6 comes out the ps5 pro is pointless

[@thefury4815]

@@utopic1312 oh yeah I’d never buy one unless they magically dropped to like 1k. So many graphics cards are 4k capable at a much lower price it’s almost insane to consider it.

[@Arwing1979]

GTA5 was basically a gen 8 game that was released on the 7th gen systems. And they struggled to hit 25fps. The intended version of the game then got "remastered" and released with the 8th gen consoles a year later. Rockstar make their money twice (then milk it for 10+ years). Mark my words, the exact same thing will happen with GTA6 and the PS5 / PS6.

[@Gazzoosethe1]

But in all respect, those fps felt like 30 and It Is playable

[@BRUCEYBOY]

Yeah this has been my thoughts for years honestly. After no news on GTA6 until last year, I could just tell by the timing of the console generations that 6 would come out around a year or so before the next console comes out. Then, rerelease it like you said for the (PS6 ig). I wonder if Sony and Microsoft have like, some kind of deal or something with Rockstar because it's one of the biggest games. To purposely release it to entice people to buy the newer console, so they can have a better experience. It's all bs, I just got a pc last year cause of all the bs.

[@KesterStudios]

This is not even true at all. GTA5 was intended was 7th gen and just got delayed.

[@HardWhereHero]

@@Gazzoosethe1 unless you hit a lobby with a high player count.

[@HardWhereHero]

@@KesterStudios What? So you are saying they were gonna release it on the Xbox and the ps2? No way. 7th gen is 360 and ps3 and GTA V released for that. They wanted to release it for that generation but had to drastically reduce it compared to base ps4 or xbox one.

[@issabeganovic8822]

It's rubbish like this why I cut off contact with consoles when the 4 was out a decade ago. Pure shameless greed. The Steam Deck saved my love for gaming.

[@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames]

Same here! I fricking LOVE my deck. Thing saved my passion for gaming. Not only that, but the fact that I can pair dualsense controllers, an Xbox controller, mouse and keyboard, and play multiplayer Mario party with my gf and her niece - the deck is bringing family together in beautiful ways. The tinkering to get everything to work was really fun, too. It reminded me of everything that I loved about PC gaming in the first place. Put me right back to being five years old experiencing Wolfenstein 3D for the first time 🥹🥹🥹

[@mgiebus1869]

With a steam deck do you still need a great PC for your actual library or can it stand alone. Sry I don't play PC at all but am looking to

[@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames]

@ The steam deck is insanely powerful, but you will definitely see it struggle with newer titles at higher quality settings. That being said, I have played Doom 2016, Death Stranding, and a handful of other slightly newer titles, and they don’t have any issues whatsoever running smoothly on the Steamdeck. The thing is an absolute beast.

[@kernoleary1394]

how do you play marioparty on pc/steam deck?

[@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames]

@@kernoleary1394 emulators my friend, emulators! 😁

[@TopFix]

Do not buy consoles without disc drives. Even if you buy digital, even if you think you have the "option" of a disc drive later, do NOT buy consoles without disc drives. By buying them, you are sending the message that you are okay with your autonomy as a buyer to be taken away.

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

Steam Deck?

[@ChrizHawk90]

😂 I will buy it without disc drive just to rubb it in your face.

[@luce3]

@@ThunderTheYellowJolteonthats a portable pc, not a console

[@Sketch2805Studios]

Nobody buys physical games anymore apart from a noise few ,why do you think video game sores mainly stock t-shirts and pops lmao 😂

[@LG555]

​@@Sketch2805Studiosso 50% of Switch players just don't exist.

[@Angelol_G]

The no disc drive is the main killer for this console, like the people that are getting this most likely have a collection of ps4/ps5 discs no? And it worries me about the future for video game discs in general Edit: People should have options when purchasing video games (digital or physical). Being tied to only PlayStation’s digital front is a negative for everyone. If I someone wants to buy red dead 2, they would have to pay a full $60 digitally or wait for a sale, or just buy it physically on sale or pre owned for a lower price. I don’t have a problem with pc since you’re not tied to one storefront, you have multiple options (steam, gog, epic games, Xbox, etc.). I mean at least you can still add a disc drive to the console but c’mon that’s an extra $80 on top of the $700.

[@RulerX.]

Agreed, that’s the main reason i ain’t buying this console. I have a perfect ps5 with a disk drive and a stand that works perfectly.

[@kgbl2829]

Modern Physical game disc's are pointless. Most discs now are either half the content on disc and you need to download the rest or theyre just a license to download the game

[@dftfire]

I don't get this massive obsession with physical-media thesedays, when most discs don't contain the full-game anyway. And even for those which do ship a full v1.0 copy, for any online play you'll be forced to patch anyway before you can play. Physical just doesn't seem to hold as much power as it once did

[@rikatoziv2520]

i'm with ya there, i'm probably one of the few in my area that mostly relies on Discs and Carts(as a PS and Nintendo gamer) because i don't like digital library with exception of DLCs. Only pure digital library i have is PC and phone.

[@akaMyThought]

True I play my ps4 games on my ps5 disc drive! currently playing RDR2 story again on my ps5!

[@user-wl2xl5hm7k]

Wow. This dude telling it to the man. Such a great journalist. Thank you incessantly.

[@Ilyb.444]

😂😂

[@Jeijard]

Playstation people fighting apple people to see who spends their money in the worst way possible.

[@krob8823]

😂facts

[@eclark9965]

I’d love for you to explain this position

[@heyimgoingtoplaysomegames]

It’s like they’re committed to it through their customer agreements, or they all have some kind of money wasting fetish lol

[@nerdroomcollectibles4510]

PS Portal, PSVR2, PS5 Pro, stand, disc drive, Dualsense Edge, plus games, plus PS Plus. People getting those pandemic losses taken out their ass 💀💀 it’s aight I’m cool having the base versions of every current console, no need to upgrade

[@DoinThatRag]

Completely agree with you. First Sony console I'm not purchasing. No disc drive is a giant slap in the face to begin with, but the cost doesn't come close to justifying the slightly improved, maybe, not really visible improvement. No.

[@ShaighJosephson]

Dump your consoles... Microsoft and Sony are trying to go to a "pay for time to play" subscription format out of pure greed... REJECT THIS BS !!! 💥

[@Samos900]

Nah, that’s not gonna happen. Not even phone games are that bad about it. I’ll eat my words if it does happen though

[@TheGamingMexican69]

I saw someone trying to sell a ps5 pro on Facebook for $1000 I think the guy is delusional.

[@Manvsbeargettinfood]

Bad thing is someone will likely buy it

[@R3TR0J4N]

@@Manvsbeargettinfood unfortunately true

[@dftfire]

Or he could just live in Australia where that's probably the actual price in Digerredoo-Dollars 😂

[@howvery_]

just googled and converted from our currency, its 1200 USD here lol thats a steal for someone shopping abroad haha

[@jennifermahaffey678]

This isn't unusual especially after 2020. People ended up selling PS5 anywhere from $500-1500 and that was for a disc drive one lol. I'm not surprised especially in the marketplace.

[@user-bb1ti6ct7s]

This "new features" is what we were promised with the original PS5 in the 1st place. Sony just screwed us over, yet people are still praising them 🤦

[@lawnmanGman]

so tempests audio asiic engine, the controller, the i/o, that was all garbage?

[@robertlawrence9000]

They were not promised on the original PS5 and to get that it would have been $1,000 at launch.

[@bantabury]

Sony has the Apple factor. People will just buy whatever they throw out there at a huge mark up because they think it's premium.

[@victorvargas9330]

We should wait for the next-gen Pro. All the new features promised on the PS6 will be on the actual PS6 the Pro.

[@RoshDroz]

​@@victorvargas9330hey, I just saw this scavenger comment on a different thread. Are you just spamming this?

[@VerifiedApe]

Sony really said "pay $700 for slightly better shadows and no disc drive" while most of us are still waiting for actual PS5 exclusives worth playing. The fact that they're charging extra for the stand and disc drive on their "premium" console is wild. At this point, just save the money for GTA 6 or invest in a good OLED TV - you'll notice a bigger difference in your gaming experience

[@Kxvito]

Concord was such a GENERATIONAL flop that Sony decided to charge 700 dollars for the PS5 Pro with no disk drive or vertical stand to recoup their losses.

[@mefirstplease3676]

If you think that’s how that works, then you know nothing about business.

[@TopFix]

@@mefirstplease3676 He was clearly making a joke

[@cyxceven545]

@@mefirstplease3676 You might be hyperbole-challenged.

[@mefirstplease3676]

@@cyxceven545 That’s not how hyperbole works, try again.

[@mefirstplease3676]

@@TopFix Oh well, what are you his lawyer?

[@stedebonnet2110]

As someone who waited around 4 years to finally upgrade to the ps5, this ain’t a surprise. This generation of consoles is severely underwhelming compared to the progress previous generations made.

[@Fay7666]

The PS4/Xbone were _extremely anemic_ on release, the Pro/1X finally gave it adequate GPU power but kept the poor CPU performance the same. The main change with those consoles were the switch to x86 and to more modern workflows comparable to PC, graphics & compute wise it wasn't that much of an effective jump. You really could build a decent PC comparable to a PS4 for the same budget. The PS5/SeX were actually a crazy good value, nowadays they're not amazing but still fairly decent. You couldn't build a PC for the price of a PS5 on release (MSRP, not scalp pricing), nowadays it's hard but doable.

[@TheBlackSeraph]

I'd argue that the "progress" of the last two PS generations have been disappointing. The leap from PS2 to PS3 was fantastic, but from PS3 to PS4 and PS4 to PS5 have been minimal and in some ways even a little backward.

[@awii.neocities]

@@Fay7666 However, you couldn't find a PS5 for MSRP on release. So it all evens out.

[@H8RSAPPRECIATE]

Hopefully the next generation consoles aren't a flop or too expensive image paying $700 or more for the ps6 or new xbox console in 2030 lol

[@Sebastian-Draegon]

I feel like at a certain point there's not much progress to make until we start getting cyber punk level technology. Even the phone doesn't have much it can improve on other than the camera and battery

[@MrYngwie88]

love your channel man

[@ddannehr003]

Bro the PS5 Pro is priced $1200 here in Australia + the 30th Anniversary bundle is $1650 😭

[@elpealowakaforevaaspiderbe9175]

Blimey that’s extortion much

[@chanbenyamin3527]

Sgd 1069 in singapore.

[@n7x]

Everything is overpriced here

[@Thab06]

$1560 in South Africa. The base PS5 is about $700.

[@AlexLee-je5jg]

@@Thab06 wow, how popular is the PS5 in africa? given the generally poor economy and stupidly high pricing of the console

[@WarkWarbly]

I can't stop staring at the little bunch of hair that keeps trying to cling to the chair headrest...

[@jorgematavillalobos8475]

it would look sharper on a PS5 Pro

[@Albassam90]

It's refreshing to see different points of view. Mine is going to arrive in the next coming hours; I can't wait to play BO6 on my 4K 120 TV

[@Tonnimon_Games-se6op]

I’ve never been less exited for a console launch since….. never

[@LG555]

Even less than the WiiU?

[@kingofcrap4414]

@LG555 Wii U was at least unique, and... that's about all I can say.

[@Tonnimon_Games-se6op]

@ i actually was really exited for the wii u, i remember i called to check if they had any available lol. and went to get one.

[@craighorrocks3568]

Idk if you know this, but when the base ps5 released, the box had a 4K logo on it marketing that it can render 4K video. The months before the ps5 pro was announced, display boxes for the base ps5 were specially shipped out to gamestops WITHOUT the 4K logo on it, and I’m sure you’re not surprised, the 4K logo was added to the ps5 PRO

[@DMC86X]

8k

[@KMETS523]

It was the 8K logo

[@clappedshinobi2863]

My ps5 says 8k and can achieve nothing close to that

[@majorbombas]

@@clappedshinobi2863 People say it's for movies. Except it also do not work in movies. Lmao.

[@WllKiedSnake]

8k and there is a 8k game on PS5 called The Touryst.

[@Mark_Bates]

Great video as per usual mate. Many thanks 👊🏻

[@evillecaston]

Without looking, I bet IGN rated it a 7. If it wasn't a Sony product, it would be a 3 at best.

[@cyrus2395]

Hehehe you got it in one guess lmaooo

[@ismayonnaiseaninstrument8700]

If it wasn't IGN, it would be a 3.

[@pixels_per_minute]

Here in Australia, it's about $1,200 AUD just for the pro console and 1 controller. An extra controller = $120. The plastic stand = $50. The disc drive (if you can even get one) = $160. On top of that, the games are anywhere between $60 to $120 each, depending on how broke you wanna feel afterwards. And we can't forget about all those jucy PlayStaion online services that will set you back another $21 per month!! If some poor fellow Aussie wantted to get the best out of the PS5 Pro, it's gonna easily set them back $2,000, maybe even $2,500 if they add in a few more AAA games and accessories. Edit: Also, the PSVR2 headset is $880 AUD. More than the base PS5, which is just $800. So make that over $3,000 AUD if we're to go all out on PS5 stuff.

[@Shadox-yv8ms]

Basically the price of a really good PC lol

[@pixels_per_minute]

@Shadox-yv8ms Pretty much. I've seen pre-builts from Australian retailers for $1,500 to $2,000 AUD rocking 40 series cards, so even compared to a PC, it's kinda not worth it.

[@Uminental]

You can get future proof AMD builds for less than that total, that's nuts for just the console experience!

[@iLudez]

$1379 here in nz lol just for console and one controller

[@Shadox-yv8ms]

Mine cost me 1,000 CAD and its pretty average but I can still run most games really well at high graphics, even for the MH Wilds Beta I didnt have too much problems

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

I already have a PS5 that I haven't even set up yet. I'm still working through setting up my ultimate gaming room. So I have no compulsion to go out and buy a PS5 Pro just for a few extra frames.

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

The PS5 Pro is what the original PS5 should have been from the beginning.

[@robertnapier624]

And with a disc drive. But yes your point of course stands. And the features in the pro will end up in the eventual ps6 anyways. Is there even a need for pro versions of consoles anymore?

[@robertlawrence9000]

Then it would have been $1,000 at launch and imagine that outrage.

[@Anytyme06]

The hardware didn't exist at the time.

[@juliansalazar7097]

@@robertlawrence9000it literally almost is, after tax and the disc drive and a stand. It’s insane. And remember the prices over seas are way more expensive

[@LCJammer]

@@Anytyme06 nah sony didn't want to wait. they could've got something similar to the series x 12tf gpu. if they waited longer say another year they would've got a cut down rx6800 which the ps5 pro gpu is.

[@TheFewAndOnly]

Please let this be the Concord of consoles.

[@made.fresh.daily.]

LMAO u bogus but nah frf lololol

[@thechugg4372]

I mean right now there is 0 reason to buy it because there isn't any new game. What are the Sony fanboys going to do? Replay demon's souls? Enjoy Bloodborne still at 30fps?

[@nashbullet3213]

You seem to underestimate the sheer collective stupidity of the Sony fanboys

[@baeber]

I want it to fail. Hopefully its concord 2 for those suits

[@trevorcobb4108]

@@thechugg4372 Meanwhile... Someone modded bloodborne on PC to do 120fps and so anyone with a good enough pc can enjoy it in someway since they have yet to even give pc bloodborne to us fully.

[@JoeBee9]

Got mine as I planned on getting one this year anyway. I did end up buying a base PS5 because my PS4 Pro didn't last until this November (wireless gamepads randomly disconnect and won't pair again until I restart and eventually I ended up with corrupt firmware after restarting; won't recognize the firmware update file on any of the USB drives I tried so I gave up). I like how much faster the PS5 Pro it starts up coming out of standby. Looking forward to more games supporting the upgraded hardware.

[@seeonaga1524]

Yeah selling a barely improved console for $700 and not including a disk drive or vertical stand is definitely going to make a whole lot of people not give a shit

[@veppotoast3507]

First, a console with no disc drive. Tomorrow, a console with no games

[@grantkeller4634]

Sony already pioneered the no game console with the PS3

[@Crypt0Band1t]

You're a prophet ☠️ I'll pray you're wrong 😢

[@DarthVaderOG]

I’m so glad I got a slim back in may. It was a much better deal imo. I got the disc version and it came with a free copy of sm2.

[@johncardboard4624]

2:16 imagine this part without context

[@Anxiety_Asylum]

even with context it still comes out of left field lmao

[@BeeyothGaming]

Ngl I got a semi when he said that

[@MaciejSkywalker]

lmao the moment i saw this comment it has 69 likes

[@DarthPerkins]

That's my new ring tone.

[@DarthPerkins]

I've just been fired.

[@travis8106]

I keep hearing the argument that no $700 PC is going to beat the PS5 pro. While that's true, it misses the point entirely. If you spend a premium price, you should get a premium product. You are not buying a premium product with the PS5 Pro, and for a few hundred more, you can get a PC that offers better features, more flexibility, and more freedom than a console will for the foreseeable future. You are spending $700 on a piece of hardware that is sold piecemeal without the stand and drive, when you can get a close enough product for half the price.

[@TopFix]

Sony releasing a PS5 pro with no disk drive at $700 with barely any noticeable improvement is a peak Sony move.

[@grantkeller4634]

But think of all the movieslop you can play with a handful of more pixels on the screen

[@rahb2096]

30fps quality mode to 60fps quality is very noticeable but yea if you poor and game at 1080p then you got bigger problems in life

[@grantkeller4634]

@ does Sony’s marketing team pay you for these posts? Because it’s sad if you’re shilling this hard for free.

[@OdinArrow28]

There is noticeable improvement. But I do agree, the no disc drive or stand is insane

[@proggz39]

@@grantkeller4634”movieslop” “handful of pixels” and “shill” tells us all we need to know about your intelligence and maturity

[@UnknownUnknown-cd4hh]

If they just lowered the membership prices, just for online multiplayer or just make it free. Maybe I’d consider it.

[@Gazzoosethe1]

I agree, PlayStation 3 had free online and it's still going strong. If ps5 had free online It would be Amazing. Even though i don't actually care about graphics too much the base consoles are good enough also because even if the pro model Is out, the games must run well on the base consoles, so i don't see the problem with it

[@scoopdywhoop318]

@@Gazzoosethe1man as an Xbox guy I’ll never forget every PlayStation person talking shit because we had to pay for online. When Sony started making PlayStation users pay too it was so sweet for me sorry guys.

[@Gazzoosethe1]

@scoopdywhoop318 oh well, i am not a fanboy, i Just adapt. If it's pay to play i avoid It.

[@vrapbrap]

It's so absurd that you have to pay for a horrible online infrastructure and the bi-annual data leak where all your info gets leaked. All that for a noisy box with 3 games

[@WeAre1Legion]

For real, if they did PSN like they did for PS3 it'd be selling like crazy

[@VeteranClash]

I tried to get the 30th anniversary pro but I didn't get lucky. I didn't worry though since the upgrades on the pro were mostly "graphical" and not performance wise. But yeah, future games will NEVER hit 60fps so I'm good with the slim digital 30th anniversary bundle since we all know consoles will NEVER catch up to PC specs. I'll also wait for the ps6 to play gta 6 at max settings hahaha.

[@nicodimus2222]

Waiting for PS6 is the smart move. This is an insanely expensive incremental upgrade for a system that has a very weak game library to begin with.

[@kingofcrap4414]

Not supporting Sony at all is the even smarter move.

[@roachdoggjr3458]

Nah saving up for a gaming PC, or spending half the cost of a PS5 on a steam deck or ROG ally instead, those are the smart moves. Consoles are more expensive long term due to lack of game sales and the subscription to play online, not to mention a PC is also capable of doing everything else a PC can do, so your getting better gaming at a long term discount with added utility of the spectrum of a computers use cases and the couple hundred more up front pays for itself and far beyond in no time. For about 1400 you can get a much more powerful gaming PC, that you can upgrade as you see fit, and buy games on sale for $5 and not pay to use your own internet, and yeah it's more money but comparing the benefits to the cost up front it is an astronomical downside to be a console owner. Other than Nintendo of course, they do their own thing, I believe the only thing keeping Sony and Microsoft in the game is brand recognition and brand loyalty

[@chantier24]

PS5’s game library is honestly embarrassing.

[@kylegusek]

​@@roachdoggjr3458 Nintendo's really in their own league, the two things on my list for the nearish future are a new PC build and the Switch 2. Right on the money with the rest of it. I'm retiring a PC with 12 year old hardware, the only thing moving forward is the 2070 Super. Healthy competition with storefronts, discounts, not paying for online, no worry about backwards compatibility etc makes it worth it, especially when the price point gets this comparable.

[@davicito4841]

Hah, I'll wait for the PS6 Pro

[@igotclampsonhof6288]

Sony went full on EA mode charging 700 dollars for no disk drive

[@brianwalsh1339]

Bro they charged 600 dollars for the standard ps5. They’ve been on the “greed” arc.

[@Olubalogun-tq7vk]

​@@brianwalsh1339where did you get that information?

[@DarkForce2024]

@@brianwalsh1339 No. It was $500 and came with a disc drive and stand. The slim was the same price, but without the stand. The digital only was even cheaper.

[@jerricaleonard2123]

Make that Apple.

[@RIPBillCooper]

Never go full EA.

[@steveluna1627]

Consoles started dying when they released their exclusives everywhere, two of the main reasons why anyone would buy them are exclusives and because it's cheap than a PC, that's why many people don't really need to have the newer consoles, except the Switch

[@alphakowaclips]

Ah yes, consoles are dying when pcs cost at least 2k 😅 and companies still struggle with port optimization

[@KristenZianourry2015]

@@alphakowaclips actually they don’t cost that because I got a desktop for $183 on clearance at Walmart and it has 12 gigs of ram in it and it runs great for the games I play at least. If you don’t know how to go shopping you can just be honest about that…

[@lordofligma]

Exactly. Consoles were always more accessible to the average Joe. PS5 isn't accessible at all.

[@BerzerkerTank]

​@alphakowaclips it's easy enough to find a PC for less than $1000 that's able to play 90% of games that get released, plus you can use it as an actual PC. It's a lot more expensive, but if anything goes wrong with it, it can be easier to repair yourself, too.

[@lycanwarrior2137]

@@KristenZianourry2015 A PC that cheap is not even remotely capable of playing graphically demanding games at 4K/60fps.

[@hamzahussain7794]

The only game that has used the ps5 unique capabilities to the fullest extent has been Astrobot which was launched recently and ps5 has been around for almost 4 years now. Everything else has been just remakes/remasters. Why would anyone even consider a ps5 pro or even a ps6 is beyond me.

[@LG555]

I would also add Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart to that list. The Rifts use the fast loading in an interesting way, instead of a crutch, and the haptics also feel quite nice.

[@MrHastygamer]

It looks like it has sold well with all the sold out disk drives, which for me personally is a bit of a shame because it encourages them to do it more often, minor upgrades for massive costs.

[@Qb3nsis]

idk I like the idea of modular consoles.

[@NerdyTransformed]

​@@Qb3nsisif it was modular, the pro wouldn't be necessary

[@J.A.Z-TheMortal]

​@@Qb3nsisThey are called PCs

[@jerm70]

​@@Qb3nsis Try a PC. You at least own the hardware on a PC and can do whatever you want with it.

[@DrakonR]

Scalpers don't represent sales.

[@TrickyJebus]

Sony treating their playerbase like Apple does

[@brevo2451]

5:22 “incredibly re…. Brain dead” nice save Muta

[@KipC-Sway]

I play on xbox and switch however I also like playstation as well. I just like video games. I don't get all tribal team sport mentality about video games like alot of people do for some reason. Console wars are beyond stupid but to each their own

[@jamesmetcalf5597]

Always refreshing to see a comment that was written by a person with common sense, you are awesome.

[@Sebastian-Draegon]

People need something to fight over

[@bayonetta1464]

how is playstation good? if you have money to throw away, good for you, but not everyone is going to buy all videogame system

[@ttn-gr4fv]

Muta with the hot FF7 take 😱

[@rainbrothers7202]

i knew eventually muta would talk about the PS5 PRO. i think its the biggest cash grab i've seen in last few years

[@Alex-ye4hu]

Sony ima be real I'm not spending $1000 on a beefed up 2080ti when I could just finish my PC build and get a 4080 or 3090. Tf were they thinkingggggggg

[@Qb3nsis]

The PS5 Pro is equivalent to a 3070 Ti or 4070 SUPER. $762 (after tax) for the ps5 pro compared to a 3070 ti which is $679 or a 4070 SUPER which is $609 on Newegg (pre tax) so actually it winds up being about the same but you get the bells and whistle of the ps console :)

[@Alex-ye4hu]

@@Qb3nsis Im being hyperbolic, it would almost reach 6800xt/3070ti but vram is not there. and for $1000 and you are locked to Sonys bs ecosystem and subscriptions and no disk drive. My pc, if you didn't get deals, is $1,600 and im still waiting for a decent gpu, but series x is like $500 and I get a 7600xt which is about the 3070. So yeah it's an improvement like how my balls are improved after I shave them. Still just a pair of nuts what a steal! why not just buy a base ps5

[@Alex-ye4hu]

oh mb $1000 is with the drive but idk who's selling a $300 disc drive wtf lmao

[@FrostDrift69]

@@Qb3nsis cope, its equiv to a 2080ti and has been stated many times. COPEE

[@slavche]

Really good overview Muta, i loved it just to give a take on your video. Nice! I'm sure it is disappointing a bit so i am not gonna rub anything in, like Console war level

[@imBigo]

"High framerates" being 60 FPS is actually hilarious

[@dirodekres5132]

60 is high Anything over 120 is unnoticeable

[@biogene9297]

@@dirodekres5132 60 is the minimum for people that arent idiots that like getting scammed.

[@animegeek3109]

Bruh, why upgrade when the ps6 has been confirmed..? That makes absolutely no dam sense....

[@XxDeathxX509]

Bc its stated to be 3-4 years away. But If your ps5 is fine i wouldn’t upgrade to this garbage. Im only buying bc my base ps5 is on its last legs

[@Jayjayxxx007]

You need a quality display with vrr to really feel the difference in games, going back n forth between Spider-Man 2, horizon, gt7. It’s awesome man, KZbin videos don’t show the differences. I can feel the difference in frame rates and overall clarity.

[@kadebass6187]

The law of diminishing return doing its thing

[@kadebass6187]

That’s one of those things that makes me dumbfounded by people who say it’s a scam like bro it isn’t going to get any better you think the PS6 is going to be explosively different from the PS5 (in best case scenarios) is pretty laughable mind you at anything below $500

[@Chris-sm2uj]

the law of greed doing its thing Stop eating so much sony slop

[@kadebass6187]

@ dog it’s going to cost a lot of money regardless. You literally having digital foundry saying for it’s price it’s actually pretty good (in comparison to PC specifically) not that the results are spectacular

[@c3ntury1337]

feel sorry for people that don't understand PC hardware and think consoles are magic boxes and the word "pro" is gonna magic up some significant visual/fps gains :( they gon' get scammed

[@UniversalStand]

Many aren’t interested in tinkering with settings all day. Consoles strength is mostly in its plug and play.

[@kkef1011]

​@@UniversalStand using recommended settings and auto updating drivers with Geforce experience is basically as much "plug and play" as consoles

[@UniversalStand]

@@kkef1011 Sorry but its not.

[@joyboy888]

​@@UniversalStandYou are one of the people that the person in the comment is talking about.. Just buy a pre built pc from any store if someone don't want to know even a little about tech and they will be all good.

[@UniversalStand]

@@joyboy888 you’re delusional. I’ve gone the PC rout before. Never again.

[@seanmichael7714]

I'm looking at a PS5 disk drive for 79.94 from Walmart right now. Not sure why you're saying they're so hard to find. All the same fire vids though best wishes man!

[@Zhigaa_Rocky]

He’s not lying. I literally just built a pc with a 4080 super. A bit more on the expensive side but now I’ll be able to do way more with it. It’s just not worth spending almost 1k on & all you can do is game but just imagine how much the ps6 is gonna be. Start building that pc guys, sorry Sony.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

you just spent $1100 on a gpu

[@neo1711]

"A bit more expensive" is an understatement

[@baeber]

pc is a better platform so I wont judge your choice at all

[@Whreck11]

​​​​@@Boss_Fight_Index_mukii did the same 4080super/ryzen 7800x3d,64 gb ddr 5,4tb whole pc with 2000$,im running at 100-160fps on 4k dlss. The ps5pro is 1k€ in my country with disk drive,take in consideration the ps plus sub and overpriced games here you go the trade. Im coming from a ps5 btw,i still own it.Thanks to the ps5 Pro which pushed me to do so and glad i did it😂

[@cooperpooper1030]

do you like baked beans

[@fookinreee3754]

Only when theyre spilt

[@mikey_3089]

i fw baked beans

[@jhonayo4887]

They are a bit too sweet. Not my favorite way to consume beans.

[@momsspaghetti4064]

Bro. Wtf even is this question and yes. Boston style baked beans are the absolute bomb diggity. Period. They on par with banana bread. Facts. 😂

[@elee9056]

what about baked bean flavored dr pepper?

[@EagleFntm]

Thank god I had the original PlayStation 5 console before the PS5 Slim and PS5 Pro variants…

[@splechortheannoyingcat]

the moment they said it's not going to have any disc drive at 700$, it's not just a disappointment, it's scummy practice, because they are basically pulling the ubisoft "you should be comfortable not owning the game" move and sold the separate disc drive as another scummy practice of "you don't like the way we do things, fine, we'll give you the old option.........for a price"

[@cabuscus]

Considering consoles are supposed to be cheaper to account for the more expensive games and paid online, this is pure greed.

[@RussellSenpai]

They're not supposed to be cheaper though. It's just they can no longer cast the illusion of them being cheaper anymore because of PC gaming, and bombs like Concord.

[@cabuscus]

@@RussellSenpai they are.

[@meetbythecreek]

Well said, I’d only even consider grabbing this if I didn’t already own a PS5. Even if Sony offered some sort of trade in offer I would hesitate.

[@menzoberranzam]

Even the 32X was a better upgrade to Sega Genesis than the PRO is to the PS5...

[@RussellSenpai]

I love SEGA and hate the current AAA gaming industry. So please understand when I say this couldn't be any further from the truth.

[@therealbossplaya]

I Approve This Message...👏🧐💯🥂✨🎊🎉

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

I'm a Sonic fan, and the modern AAA gaming industry is crap. Digimon is better than Call of Duty.

[@cjeffcoatjr]

I was waiting on the PS5 Pro to buy into this generation. I still use lots of physical PS4 games and Blu-Rays. An $80 add-on for a disk drive is a kick in the teeth. Anyway, my refurbished PS5 from Sony's website has been great so far. And for half the price of what I would have to pay to consume physical media on a PS5 Pro.

[@HarryFrickenMills]

Got mine today, trying on my LG CX Oled. Love it. Selling my old PS5.

[@maikson97]

I mean yea, only change was the GPU but the CPU is still shit, if they upgraded both things the PS5 Pro would be a good game changer

[@666Daheretic]

5:11 you are neglecting to mention the reason most pc gamers are bringing up the 4090 is because a lot of sony fanboys have been claiming the PS5 pro beats a 4090 for a couple of months now. They also refuse to properly compare the PS5 to pc hardware. They keep using nvidia when they should be comparing it to AMD.

[@MangoKai]

Why compare it to AMD when the AMD flagship outperforms the 4090 in a lot of games?

[@ColonelArnold]

Can’t even compare when one thing can play pretty much anything you want on it and the other just plays Sony/playstation games and maybe some Xbox from whatever they allowed to be put on the online store for that console

[@WllKiedSnake]

It's equivalent to a 4070. Not a 4090. And people compare it to Nvidia as it includes a Ai upscaler and better RT. AMD aren't there yet.

[@Sc5ch]

Litterally look up ​any 7900 vs 4090 comparisons and you're disproven. @MangoKai

[@RogueX1.0]

17:28 Im a part of that group that managed to snag one (even 3 years after it came out-) and the only *legitimate* reason i could see myself even thinking to get it would be to play MH Wilds, though when i played the beta on the PS5, it ran well for me that i cant really see much need for the Pro unless there's a huge difference once it comes out.

[@wow22815]

ps5 is a skip for me , there is no games on the damn thing , and i I bought most of the stations from one to four , but the way Sony is treating the PlayStation five is so sad

[@Mnews95]

But Demonn Soulssss

[@69-Bot]

I still got the PS4, the PS5 still feels new to me. It’s crazy we’re already talking about a new PlayStation.

[@KristenZianourry2015]

I was huge with PlayStation as a kid but by the time i got the ps4 in 2020 i realized I didn’t wanna pay $60 for unfinished games on top of paying the PlayStation plus every month so I decided to sell it and just stick to my Nintendo switch where I can still get $20 games that are great fun and cartridges because I’m never going disc Free & i dont need online capabilities. I can definitely see myself getting into PlayStation two again though. I have a PC but dont game on it much.

[@PicketPolecat]

Sony forgot that people already had a better PS5 Pro It's called a PC

[@doom-slayer-69]

@@Layla-p2h Why? I have a PC as well, but as far as consoles go I only saw value in getting a Switch (and I'm getting the Switch 2 when that comes out) because Nintendo is actually fun. Playstation is the barren wasteland of consoles. Every good game the Playstation even has is available on PC.

[@Michael_Afton40]

​@@Layla-p2h youu really don't like having money in your pocket do you

[@kingofcrap4414]

@Layla-p2h Being this arrogant about money is going to cost you. My brother used to spend and spend and spend like he had all the cash in the world, and now he's nearly bankrupt.

[@DaGooeyGuy]

I really do not care about these graphical upgrades, call me blind but I genuinely can’t even tell the difference, the FPS are way more important, I want to run GTA 6 at 60 FPS and I shouldn’t have to buy a PC 3 times the price of my console to do so, there’s no reason why a 500 dollar or 700 dollar machine that is advertised as being able to hit 60 FPS wouldn’t be able to hit 60 FPS

[@ninjascroll1017]

Devs just try to do too much with these games. They know damn well consoles cant run the stuff theyre doing

[@zubrhero5270]

I've said this for ages now... We're all talking "physical media"... and we all think optical drives and discs... But, I don't know why companies don't sell games on USB sticks. Difference is they'll cost a couple of pounds/dollars, as opposed to pennies... But, the profit margin's still surely MASSIVE.

[@RedAISkye]

The contents are burned on to discs. You can't do that on a USB stick.

[@razielthagreat]

You dont understand capitalism do you? The point is to max out profits, increasing cost by making usb sticks goes against all logic in greedy corporate america. The point is to spend as close to zero as possible and the. Charge you, the consumer, as much as humanly possible.

[@BebopMansion]

Because Bluray cost less than USB sticks

[@dvee1]

?

[@ItchHeSay]

PC provides much better value at this price point, so I just don't understand the point of a product like this. That's not even mentioning the lack of a disc drive and a lack of games that truly push the hardware.

[@RIPBillCooper]

This.

[@Quazzi]

It literally doesn't, not even close.

[@manu23624]

This has been disproven multiple times already, have a look at Linus's tech tips's video about it if interested.

[@Gazzoosethe1]

My man, i was with you about PCs but with the optimization they're going through i rather Stick to the base console and have fun with it. What metters Is the fun you have with the games rather than graphics alone. It's not like we're playing the games at 15 fps with pixelated graphics though, we're playing very good games with more than decent performance and resolution. To tell you something, i dug out my PS2 back because silent Hill shattered memories got my interest and still, I'm enjoying it. This run to graphical greatness Is pointless as we are getting minimal improvement in time, also count that we still have very few games out.

[@RIPBillCooper]

PlayStation defenders are wild.

[@Retrox1989]

"Some of us can't afford to get a gaming PC" The same people buying a PS5 Pro for $700+, a disc drive for $100+, a subcription to play online (still a joke this is a thing) and full price games.

[@AntiGrieferGames]

Same on switch, but less costs.

[@thegoldenflare3199]

“Just get a PC” mf’s when I tell them I haven’t even bought a game for full price in the last 5 years let alone a console

[@alphakowaclips]

Gotta love when pc gamers assume console users buy games at full price and buy new consoles day 1 AND buy subscriptions 😂 I'm always skipping the pro versions and haven't bought psplus the past 5-6 ish years

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

And probably the newest iphone every couple of years

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

If you can save $700 for a PS5 "Pro", then you can hold onto that $700 and KEEP saving the extra it would take to invest in a starter gaming PC. I am not rich, a few months ago I was playing my PC games on a cheap little monitor (still having fun). The priority was the PC itself. Not only did I just get a sweet monitor like a month ago, I bought my first real good mouse that wasn't the cheapest thing I could find off the shelf like a week ago and oh my God, I did not realize how it would change my world. Making sure I had a solid PC "box" to start with, worth it. Also, PS4, still works if I wanna play it.

[@ricky_pigeon]

Sony players feeling the Concorde tax.

[@unclehollywoodshouseofther995]

I preordered a pro and ordered a disk drive at the same time. I have a 55 in Sony Bravia XR55X90J. I have a PSVR2. I'm here for a fun time

[@fr0stra1d]

Realistically, the only reason to use max graphical fidelity on console and desktop (if your pc can’t handle a consistent 60fps or higher on max settings) if for nice screenshots and cinematic with slow cam movements.

[@R3TR0J4N]

same thoughts. linear games in general often closed and personal, yet those games aint taxing given their scale. for large scale titles i find Ultra being eye candy and taxing. unless its shadows, its often the immersion breaking shadow pop-in😂GTAV tried to solve that w/ broad option and yet had to edit the ini.

[@Gazzoosethe1]

Usually i go for the performance on PC, but on console i demand graphics

[@fr0stra1d]

@ honestly valid, I only use PC but I apply the principle I stated, if I wanna take a screenie, I cap my frames at 30 and put everything to the highest.

[@bradhaines3142]

i have a 7900xtx and put everything on medium/high (4k native) except draw distance i always max

[@fr0stra1d]

@ respectable af, I personally prefer NVIDIA because of raytracing and Content creator features but AMD is still extremely competent.

[@mr.melancholy4973]

Sony is pretty much dominating the console generation. They probably feel they don't need to even try anymore. No competition means no need to improve.

[@LG555]

Nintendo is really in their own domain then.

[@MonitorLizardGaming]

What a wild surprise! Who could have possibly seen this coming?

[@aresbastoni]

$700? Just save and buy a PC...

[@tacothunder2298]

or just wait for a sale? claiming something is too expensive and then proceed to pay even more for the alternative is just dumb

[@thechugg4372]

​@@tacothunder2298a sale? Do you know how consoles work lil bro?

[@fuxkag3908]

@@tacothunder2298 A good computer is the same price and you can do more with it also last i checked consoles rarley go on sale

[@bradhaines3142]

​@@fuxkag3908gaming hardware is stupidly priced right now, it'd be legit hard to get an equal pc at the same or less than ps5

[@fuxkag3908]

@@bradhaines3142 My pc is roughly equal to a PS5 Pro and similarly priced

[@pauls5745]

It's coming to the point they'll only sell terminals and subscriptions. Game consoles and discs are going away.

[@DarkForce2024]

PC isn't going away though. Because the uses for a PC vastly outnumber the uses for a console. There will always be DRM free indie games, which you can backup yourself which is just as good as discs. If gaming is headed that direction, I'll stick to old consoles and DRM free PC games.

[@Jasonsadventures]

I have mine, it goes awesome man, cheaply made and coil whine but goes awesome :p

[@soccermomjabo]

Sony needs you to buy a PS% Pro so they can recoup losses for 400 million dollars in Concord loss. Understand what they are doing.

[@bigcheefer]

we're still surprised about consoles underperforming? seriously??

[@PicardRiker08]

This guy liked his own comment the instant he posted it... How sad.

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

@@PicardRiker08 True! These people hate but the ps5 pro is good

[@or6h]

yeah… it’s $700, consoles aren’t cheap my dude

[@liamnissanS2K]

Genuinely cant believe consoles are even a thing. Pointless piece of technology.

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

@@liamnissanS2K too poor? 😂

4:55 that is wild considering an apparent trusted source told the pc community that the 5090 is going to around that price

[@MichealTommy-rm4cr]

2:42 blood borne

[@Amon_Gus799]

Only people who are going to buy this are KZbinrs and people who will buy it just cause it has pro on the box

[@jesse.p2263]

So my 1800-2000$ CAD PC (Built & replaced parts over 4 years) is better than a PS5 Pro and if you include a purchase of the normal PS5, I would've paid more using consoles than my 5 year old PC is worth. Any console people who want to reply and crap on me you better come up with a good comeback!

[@jeremystone4139]

I bought an OLED TV shortly after getting my PS5. Playing Horizon Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok on an OLED is truly amazing, but I realized that graphics don't really need to get any better.

[@DrakonR]

It would be amazing on any high end TV..

[@Souma_Ditya]

*Concord Tax* going brrrr

[@alexiscardoso778]

MUTA THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU BROTHER!

[@admiralradish]

There are some people who play on computers, then there are people who cant use a computer who play consoles and talk shit.