The Largest Sex Abuse Scandal of This Century - Charlie Peters | Maiden Mother Matriarch 2

[@charliepeters755]

Thanks for having me!

[@CatrionaRuadh]

Thank you, Charlie, for your very important work!

[@CatrionaRuadh]

@@lalala2827 How terrible! That the police, government, media - all have failed so many vulnerable young girls who are treated like they have no value at all. No words, really! Grateful for this documentary and hoping that these terrible crimes will be fully revealed and the perpetrators suitably punished!

[@lovetruthbeauty55]

Utterly awesome work.

[@goshane23]

thanks for sharing 🙏💚

[@ZimbaZumba]

This an order of magnitude worse than the Jimmy Saville scandal.

[@unitysprings3631]

People still call us racist, for talking about this. I refuse to stay quiet.

[@DominicBerry-d5h]

When people called me "racist" for being concerned, I said "At least I don't support rapists"

[@paulraines9635]

The guy in this podcast thinks you're racist. He considers your views "far-right" and believes that you're part of the problem.

[@unitysprings3631]

@@paulraines9635 He might also struggle to define a woman, so I won't take his opinion to heart, given the level intelligence it would take to hold that opinion.

[@LS-xs7sg]

There is nothing morally or intellectually wrong with racism. There are differences between racial groups and it is natural to show solidarity to people who are genetically closer to you.

[@zenocrate4040]

It is deeply frustrating to observe how this story keeps being shuffled out of the way by politicians and the media. Well done Charlie Peters for a deeply disturbing documentary and thanks to both for a harrowing conversation.

[@lovetruthbeauty55]

Amazing. A genuine hero. As an abuse survivor I am crying in gratitude that at least someone is speaking up.

[@charliepeters755]

Thank you for your kind words and I hope you find more peace every day

[@anuragsinha2013]

Self Deception is hell of an art form.

[@Lily8980]

Thank you Charlie and Louise for standing up for those who've been silenced.

[@Gerry_Davies]

Sammy Woodhouse should have got a mention. She was exceptionally brave waiving her anonymity as a victim of grooming gangs in Rotherham.

[@izzya8116]

This is horrific. Thank you for using your platform to highlight these realities, Louise.

[@justanothermaid]

A difficult thing to talk about and to hear. I can't say this was an enjoyable episode but I appreciate that it's my responsibility to hear it as a parent. Thank you.

[@littlelulu5675]

very suspicious that nothing happened when it was first brought to light decades and decades ago, so sounds like some did not want it disturbed?

[@jefffrederick8648]

Thank you for having this discussion. I am from the USA but this is beyond disturbing. Brutish and primitive to treat young women and girls as commodities and not even highly valued possessions. And to think that those brave souls who sound the alarm are accosted verbally and physically by those who wish to whitewash the truth in the name of fairness. I fear that both our countries are declining and headed towards 3rd world status.

[@arthurw8054]

Wow. Whoever said "learning is fun" was definitely oversimplifying. I'm in the USA and never heard anything about this... Kudos to both Charlie and Louise for presenting it. The story itself is horrific, but the political motives behind why such things either get redressed or ignored - whether due to ideology or corruption - is also both predictable and interesting. The politicization of things that should not be politicized is of course rife across the pond, too.

[@jayjaydubful]

The story of the girl in the police station is terrifying

[@aldoushuxley5953]

I really hate that whenever there is some scandal, the first thing that happens is "Yeah, this community has a massive disgusting problem, but white people also..." How about we adress this and fix it, instead of relativizing it in the first sentence!

[@charliepeters755]

It's important to compare minority overrepresentation in any crime with the dominant culture to better understand the phenomenon. If you watch my documentary, you'll see 'Asian' (predominantly Pakistani) abusers compared statistically with the indigenous population. The comparison is also useful because while white GLCSE gangs exist, the minority GLCSE gangs have very different drivers: their crimes are often driven by race hate. Indeed, I think this scandal is the biggest race hate crime of the century in Britain. And yet, none of the anti-racist charities give a toss. It makes me sick.

[@aldoushuxley5953]

@@charliepeters755 I was referring to the Tommy Robinson point, for example. You know how people like him would have no power? If there were no foreigner r*ping children... By the authorities being silent about the problem, now, not only do I have no trust in them, and not only must I now assume the worse about any rumor, they also just made the problem worse and prolonged it. This SHOULD lead to racism and racial tensions. Not because that is good, or fair but because that shows that there are consequences to actions, and the community has an incentive to stop abusers. What would happen if it was in reverse? There WOULD be violence, or at least a lot of protests etc. But there are no consequences this way. None systemically, and none by normal people too. If the community leaders did not see English people as weak pushovers, but as people you need to respect, as equals, they would not protect these abusers, because that would mean possibly endangering your own people. And that is something they WOULD care about. By being so defensive about the people actually complaining about these problems (and there are others with migration, knife crime etc) you are making them persist and far worse, until one day the English people are really angry and there is actual violence on large scales. There should have been racial tensions and racism after the first case came out, and it would have stopped, and there would never have been this buildup of potential violence and resentment between the communities

[@mishmash918]

@@charliepeters755 Is there any accountability from the pakistani community for this? According to sharia law the punishment for rape is death, shouldn’t they be asking for at the very least life imprisonment in britain for these horrific crimes. Minority sensibility is fine but it shouldn’t be affecting law and order, makes me sick. These are the same people doing honor killings too, they need to be monitored more closely

[@charliepeters755]

@@mishmash918 Highly recommend you watch my doc for some commentary on the 'accountability' and failure to ostracise.

[@aldoushuxley5953]

@@charliepeters755 Was my second comment (reply to you) deleted? For some reason I can not see it anymore...

[@JohnSmith-nc6ul]

This is so grotesque, unfortunately I’m not shocked. The police are despicable in regards to their lack of action around this.

[@TheAcad3mic]

Yeah police are trash tbh. A few good eggs but the institution as it stands in the 21st century is basically only any good for taking money from motorists.

[@cabbage9398]

The Guardian's _"Most Child Abuse Gangs are White"_ article was quite dishonest. I recommend reading Patrick O'Flynn's article in The Spectator entitled _"The Home Office's Report is an Exercise in Obfuscation"_ for a more accurate take on the report & its findings. For an example, the report cites 2011 data on 2,300 possible offenders, of which ethnic information was only known for approximately 750 (which raises questions on its own). Of those, 30% were White and 28% were Asian. This figure was used to justify the "Most are White..." claim bandied about by The Guardian and others. Demographic context is ignored. A second, smaller study in 2013 looked at 306 offenders, and found that 75% were Asian, a 10-fold overrepresentation.

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

There is also the issue of what the counting from the instances of abuse will show in regards to perpetrators.

[@Locke350]

Also if someone knows basic mathematics, from the percentages of “Whites” and “Asians”, the former is underrepresented and the latter is overrepresented according to the UK demographics.

[@sarimkh]

This is such a ridiculous comment, you can look at the much larger 2013 study where 40% of child sex offenders were white. Even proportionately, there are more white child sex offenders than Pakistani or Black or any other minority.

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

Those articles also have a habit of taking the group listed as "race not specified" and adding those to the white group.

[@castleknock19]

These children were innocent and where were their careers and social workers.Shameful shameful.There are no words to describe this evil allowed to go under the radar

[@GraceHarwood88]

30:09 Where he has access to patients information? Staff information? 😳

[@AmeliaBodilia]

Charlie’s channel is woefully undersubscribed. Help him grow and amplify his voice in a world that desperately needs to hear the ugly truths.

[@saffy565]

Given that males are statisitically unlikely to be victims of SA, we have a situation where 50% of the population disregard the plight of the other 50% . That includes men at every level of society from the top law makers, police, politicians and heads of organisations. We need men to step up to the plate.

[@JohnJames-kw5de]

Not true. A lot of men have been sexually abused as children. me included. There have been a lot of white liberal women who have cried racism when the issue of the r*pe gangs has been raised

[@Teaandephemery]

A second very strong episode - I've only known Louise as a podcast guest but she makes a really good host. Desired guest list for the future: - Helen Joyce, obvs. - Any chance of a round-table with Kathleen Stock and Michelle Goldberg about the state of transatlantic feminism? Goldberg was a bit skeptical of your book so I'd like to hear her back that up. - I'm not sure what you and Derek Thompson would particularly talk about but I think you'd dovetail well. - I think you and Jonathan Haidt would find a lot of common ground. Yes, aim high, why dont I? ;)

[@CatrionaRuadh]

and Lierre Keith possibly - connections with eco feminism...

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

Given their overlapping work on the Sexual Revolution, having Mary Eberstadt as a guest would probably produce a fascinating conversation.

[@simoncollins6529]

This story Did Not first come out in 2003 with Labour MP Anne Prior and Times journalist Andrew Norfolk. As distasteful to the middle class as it is, Nick Griffin and the BNP have been telling everyone this since the 80's. Tommy Robinson has done more to expose Islamic child rape gangs than anyone else. I heap mountains of praise on Anyone bringing attention to this issue irrespective of their class or political views. Just because you don't agree with someone's political views and you're able to dismiss them due to their class..... doesn't make them wrong.

[@LJScott1974]

Thanks for an interesting interview.

[@lynseypringle9585]

It’s still happening in the west end of Newcastle.

[@palmtree9815]

This was shown on Call the Midwife with a young girl who was groomed by a pimp and the local Anglican priest got her out of the the area. So tragic.

[@eyesdown9700]

Whether he likes it or not Nick Griffin (and later Tommy Robinson) raised this issue publicly well before Andrew Norfolk wrote about or published it. In 2004 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKbchmaam8lmpqc he's interviewed by a deliberately displaying outrage Gavin Esler. On this point he is completely undeniably correct. This is the reason the BNP gained council seats in Burnley in 2002. Maybe they don't want to overshadow the actual story or taint it, but it's just a fact.

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

Yes, they obfuscate the discernable legitimate revisionism that shows what they disparage as being 'far right hate fantasies' as merely mostly being early outcries of what was going on & they maintain a wall of disdain against those they see as lesser than them to avoid facing the guilt of enabling decades of terrible sexual atrocities.

[@calvinkhor890]

I'm not a statistician but some back-of-the-envelope calculation re 9:55 ... Wikipedia tells me the Rotherham cases are counted from 1997-2013 (16 years) and the victims were 11-16 yrs old. So all the victims at 2013 were already born at 1997. From a googled 1997 population pyramid, females in the 0-16 age group comprise some 10% of the UK. Assuming Rotherham follows the same pattern, there were about 14000 under 16 girls. Hence roughly 1510/14000 = 10% of all girls in Rotherham ≤16 years were abused. Sound right?

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

There should also be consideration of the fact that the number of abused remain under counted, under reported and under estimated, as they usually are.

[@masoodkhan1096]

As a Pakistani living in Pakistan. This is horrible to hear. The Pakistani British public and council members must own this and work against this culture

[@jayjaydubful]

Have you had any conversations about this with Pakistani friends & family? I've been curious about how it is perceived

[@abdulqaadir6510]

Where can I watch the full documentary?? As a muslim with Afghan/Pakistani heritage living in Australia this is absolutely horrifying. In Islam, sexual indecency is very severely prohibited - so this is extremely shocking to me.

[@charliepeters755]

There's a link to the documentary in the description of this video ☝

[@abdulqaadir6510]

@@charliepeters755 Thanks I don't know how I missed it. Will definitely look into it.

[@masoodkhan1096]

As a Pakistani living in Pakistan. This is horrible to hear. The Pakistani British public and council members must own this and work against this culture

[@mebtor]

@@masoodkhan1096 Islam divides humankind into three categories: Muslim, dhimmi, kuffar; or in other words: first rate, second rate and third rate human beings (not unlike the South African Apartheid system wich divided the population into whites, coloureds and blacks). When millions of muslims all over the world are indoctrinated into believing they are somehow better than, and morally superior to non-muslims, it is no surprise the consequence is that they end up viewing and treating non-muslims as trash. After all, what are we kuffar other than enemies of Allah, walking fuel for the fires of Hell. We don't have to be treated with respect. There is one standard for how to treat muslims, and another for how to treat us sub-human kuffar. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" seem to be a very fitting description of Islam.

[@mebtor]

@@abdulqaadir6510 A few months back here in Norway a woman was gang raped by four Afghan refugees at a bus stop. These kind of sexual assaults are almost exclusively carried out by men with muslim background. If sexual indecency is so severely prohibited in Islam as you say, how come this sort of behavior is so prevalent among muslim men?

[@invincible125]

What is GLCSE???

[@charliepeters755]

Group-Localised CSE

[@invincible125]

@@charliepeters755 Thank you!

[@conspirisi]

The elephant in the room here is that sexual exploitation is rife in the UK, so rife that's it's part of dating lore. The ethnic minorities highlighted here have taken exploitation to the next level, the irony is the ethnic minorities in question, have themselves traditionally a culture that protects from sexual exploitation that's more dominant in the UK. Just to clarify, not justifying the criminal activity here, it's just understanding it.

[@GraceHarwood88]

Agreed. They didn’t invent the idea, they discovered it could be easily done and hushed up, little concern for the damaged girls, Plus having a racist card to play made it easier. Couple that with some ancestral revenge motive and is it any wonder? I don’t advocate for any harm to come to any women or girls, whatsoever, but where’s the deterrent?

[@LiamE69]

Hi Louise. If I might offer some constructive criticism you might want to invest in a pop shield for your mic as it seems to be quite sensitive to your breath.

[@Lindsay_Mason]

No don't ruin the asmr 😅

[@WeAreBorgs]

I’m subscriber 999. Jordan sent me.

[@nickbarber2080]

You are too lenient on the police and the council...they were not only complicit but were benefitting in cash or kind.

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

Evil germs. Do something poms. Protect your kids

[@AccountantSteve23]

That guy kind of looks like Matt Damon

[@littlelulu5675]

what happened to Tommy Robinson? was he really killed in prison and a clone now taking his place as the rumor goes?

[@paulsadler3339]

It's economical, not cultural, impacts that seem to mean anything anymore since... (God knows when).

[@annejones4675]

I think the world owes us ‘’far right’ an apology because we’ve been right about so many things. 99.9% Percent of us are actually center conservatives or Center right And we know the nature of humans And I’ve never felt more justified and sorry that you & government were too afraid to be called racist and xenophobic Islam phobic than protect the young ladies and young boys in western countries. Most of us served in the military and overseas therefore, we know the nature of these people. We tried to warn you.

[@susancunningham7933]

Free Tommy Robinson

[@pinfold1000]

RACISM