The Last of Us EP4: Building a Bond - Therapist Reacts!

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Join psychotherapist Georgia Dow as she explores the transformation of the relationship between Joel and Ellie in HBO's 'The Last of Us.' From a transaction to a father-daughter bond, watch as the two characters grow closer and bond over silly puns. Discover how Joel's past tragedy affects his ability to open up and embrace the father-like role he takes on. Get an in-depth analysis of this touching storyline and how it adds depth to the characters.
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[@abigailaceves9230]

I think Bella Ramsey did a fantastic job portraying Ellie for the live-action adaptation. I actually find her funny moments pretty funny.😊😊😊

[@molecularlionel69]

Totally agree. I know we’re all attached to Ashley Johnson’s portrayal of her, but the more I look back on part 1 the more it feels weird to hear a 30 year old woman imitating the personality of a teenager. Bella Ramsey is exactly how a hyperactive goofy teenager like Ellie would act.

[@abigailaceves9230]

@@molecularlionel69 Ashley Johnson’s voice sounds pretty youthful for her age to me.

[@robert_bbiii]

She did a great job at reminding us Ellie is 14. When the walls come down she suddenly looks it.

[@S0LAVELLANHELL]

@@molecularlionel69 ashley johnson will always be THE ellie tho. bella is great but i don’t particularly like how they’re writing ellie (and joel) in the show. which is why the game will always be better, it’s the og, and nothing beats having a controller in your hands and LIVING the characters. movies and tv just can’t come close to the stories of videogames

[@jamescolar504]

@kmkill I can agree with that. Ellie is much more mature in the game compared to the show. So an older voice suits her much better. The show Ellie seems more childish to me, but it's not bad I just prefer the OG over her.

[@trinaq]

Joel and Ellie's relationship is truly the heart and soul of the entire stories. Although they started off as strangers, they slowly developed into a Father/Daughter relationship. Despite the harrowing circumstances, I enjoy watching their bond grow, and shows that you don't need to share blood or DNA to consider someone your kin.

[@cerberus01]

Joel/Pedro's giggle at the end of the episode was reminiscent of Bill/Nick's chuckle during the strawberry patch scene last episode. Which I wonder if that was purposeful to signify the breaking down of walls and vulnerability proceeding a test.

[@robert_bbiii]

Bad puns makes companions of us all I think Joel is the only one treating her as a person even though he says she is cargo. The fireflys, and even Tess, treated her as a thing that can save people. He is the one saying it shouldn't be like this. I also loved that Hotel sipped his coffee loudly after her comments on it.

[@classicslover]

Georgia, there's a funny old joke where a son asks his father where he (the boy) comes from. The father has been dreading this moment, but! he IS prepared! He pulls out charts and a board to tape pictures to, and struggles through to the end. The boy sits for a moment, absorbing. Then says, "That's...uh...interesting Dad. But my friend Tommy said he and his family came from Ireland."

[@GeorgiaDow]

haha oh my

[@nysunflower9439]

This is from a comedic satirist named Erma Bombeck. She wrote a newspaper column and several books, mostly about motherhood.

[@classicslover]

@@nysunflower9439 THANK-YOU for that clarification! I KNEW I read it from a QUALITY writer!

[@orangeapples]

This is the important episode where it shows the difference in mindset of those who were alive before the apocalypse and those who were born into it. The adults are focused on survival but the kids are just living. The adults dream of going back to the way it was but the kids have no concept of anything else. It was all fairy tales to them. Ellie is living and it takes the edge off of Joel because it reminds him of when he was living life as well. It’s what leads of his ultimate choice that there is no point in surviving if you aren’t living.

[@BiLLz66614]

Bella Ramsey is so good as Ellie. People cant get off the fact they dont look spot on to the characters from the game.. and I get it in a way... But the actual ACTING far surpasses looking perfectly like the characters in my eyes. They were chosen for a reason and nobody knows the world better than Druckmann himself. This episode is a shining example of them being Joel and Ellie at their best. Was so fun to watch. And had so many subtle moments like giggles and facial cues that really helped sell it all even more. The show has been awesome so far.

[@johnnie2638]

I absolutely enjoy seeing the parental bonding Joel is developing for Ellie. The scene where Ellie's joke actually makes Joel laugh actually made me laugh out loud as I watched the episode. I could see the bond forming between the two. Joel despite his druthers is becoming paternal. Something he probably never wanted to feel again since the death of Sarah. It was a evident in episode 3 when he didn't want her to see the mass grave. Yes, he continually pushes back against her & strives to stay in his shell but honestly, as a dad how can a man's sense of protectiveness not be brought out by a child's dependence on him? All the more so when that child is a girl. It's innate. The young actress playing Ellie is wonderful in this role. I'm not a gamer so I'm not "in" on many of the subtleties of their dynamic in the game but watching this show it's heartwarming to see how each helps the other grow & develop what I hope eventually will be a family bond.

[@davechongle]

i 100% believe that the laughing was kind of a blooper sort of thing but they kept it in, its just great

[@John-996]

love how they added the Joke book which only happend in the game if you took to long exploring ellie would get her joke book out.

[@m3rrys0ngstr3ss]

The point of a pun isn't to be clever, it's to make the other person HATE YOU. Honestly, even with knowing that horrors are occurring in Kansas City, this felt like a breather of an episode. I loved the description that was given in the after-show podcast - even if she didn't have the tendency for violence, Ellie is still at a tenuous age where she's torn between the instinct of "fuck off" and "hey, aren't you gonna look after me?" - and that's such a common feeling for teenagers anyway, let alone in the apocalypse. I think it's lovely to see Joel recognizing that, even if he hadn't *quite* gotten to that age with Sarah yet - she was definitely still in the "My dad is my hero" phase, even when she was slinging jokes.

[@GarthVonMaraner]

What I'm getting out of this is the script is solidly written and we're getting real superb performances by Pedro and Bella. 👍

[@SunnyD2035]

💯

[@Lucidel-M]

The moment when He gave her the gun and showed her how to hold it was honestly really cute.

[@Maya_Ruinz]

13:38 Sara in the first episode kitchen scene also says "you're losing it" to Joel when his shirt was inside out so its a clear mirroring of his relationship with Sara.

[@AesirUnlimited]

Joel being annoyed and dumbfounded at Ellie’s puns was hilarious.

[@icywinterof88]

I love the moment where they were getting shot at and ellie was panicking and joel smelled her focus to him as he gave her instructions to follow and ensured her she would be safe. It was so amazing. The acting from both of them was phenomenal.

[@gailseatonhumbert]

Joel just lost the 3 of the 4 people (and his brother is non responsive) who had been the closest to him over the past 20 years in less than a week. The mourning aspect has to be taken into account as well.

[@queenannsrevenge100]

You could definitely tell this episode was about the transition from “cargo” to “family”.

[@queerlybeloved257]

love what you explained about when it's appropriate to talk to kids about sexuality (when they ask) and considering how you'd answer their questions in advance! making sure it's not a taboo subject (especially in relation to queer identities) is vital i think, it teaches kids it's nothing to be ashamed of. i think some ppl hear "sex education" and assume it entails, like, showing kids adult videos or something, when really it's like what you said: making sure their questions are answered in neutral but non-evasive language, and making sure they know what they need to know to make informed choices later on. (also, this is kind of a tangent, but one thing i thought about in episode 3, especially in reaction to some fans saying things like "nothing important happened this episode" or similar complaints, is how meaningful it can be for a young queer kid to see examples of older queer adults. ellie being a young person learning about who she feels certain things for -- having this example of bill and frank, who found love together for almost two decades -- i feel like that would've meant something to her. i wonder how many examples of that she's seen, two people of the same gender together. all of which to say, i think even besides telling a wonderful story, episode 3 did have a big character impact on ellie and joel going forward, in this way and more.)

[@nimz8521]

7:39 You can also see Joel fidget when she asks the question, showing his discomfort.

[@failurextreme7084]

I like the moment where he actually shows her the proper way to hold a gun. I'm still sad we lost the bit of gruffness that Joel had in the game because she didn't do as told, but the bonding moment of him giving her genuine practical knowledge to keep her safe was a really good addition.

[@98tofuyi]

I think that Joel will try to push Ellie away after his encounter with Henry and Sam, they will serve as a contrast of Bill and Frank, so when he gets to Tommy the way he threasts Ellie will be similiar to the game

[@clover2739]

@@98tofuyi yeah I think I’m the show Joel pushing Ellie away that hard will hurt more, because Joel is opening up to Ellie a lot more by this point and is being more vulnerable to her compared to the game so it’ll feel like a bigger slap to the face

[@FirstLTRipvanWinkle]

So glad they added Bill’s magazine part and Hank William’s song also the jokes too. Such a nostalgic feeling as a fan. I’m enjoying your videos too.

[@chuckb8514]

Your cosplays are greatly. Seeing Joel and Ellie growing closer is the best. Great work on the analysis as always. Have a wonderful day.

[@GeorgiaDow]

so happy that you enjoy it = )

[@brittnianime]

The magazine scene had me rolling! My mother explained to my little sibling (age 5 at the time) once due to a similar "touching what you shouldnt" situation & told him it was sticky pee. He was extremely disgusted & hopped in the shower screaming lol

[@joeokabayashi8669]

Loving your attire; a great homage to Ellie. And of course, devouring your anlaysis.

[@GeorgiaDow]

Thank you kindly!

[@thebeardedgamerbryan]

I'm absolutely loving your reviews and takes on the Last of Us.

[@GeorgiaDow]

thank you so much

[@SimDeathMethul]

I like your little Ellie cosplay :)

[@GeorgiaDow]

thank you for noticing

[@dozer11]

Definitely loved the connection between Ellie and Joel growing in this episode. The show is definitely keeping us who have played the game on our toes as it’s not a 1:1 adaptation. I started laughing at when you addressed the scene about the adult magazine as I’m waiting for my 1st grade and Kindergarten aged nephews to ask me “uncomfortable” questions in the future. It’s gonna happen and I hope this keeps me prepared rather than coming up with something they could misinterpret. Love the cosplay too!

[@PourlephoneProductions]

Great cosplay, Georgia! You even went as far as shaving part of your right eyebrow! Now, that's commitment! ❤

[@GeorgiaDow]

Thank you!! 😁 ( shh it was make up but that's between us. )

[@piratetv1]

I like how she tells the "volume too" the way she told what a pirates favorite letter is in the game

[@FromPolandWithROAAAAR]

Joel hearing first jokes: 🤐🤨🤔😐🙄 Joel hearing the last joke: 😁😄🙃🤣

[@wtimmins]

Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey have such WONDERFUL chemistry. It's so fun.

[@kiyoshiyamanaka933]

People don’t do that with cargo Ugh my heart

[@STAXXX313]

I love the Ellie drip you have on its awesome

[@KevinDooley420]

Even the eyebrow scar! That's commitment

[@GeorgiaDow]

made my day you noticed it !!! = )) makes it so worth while

[@ducktape160]

The pages are stuck together for the same reason babies don't fall part - Genetic glue lol

[@jonathancohoon]

This episode introduced me to you and I'm glad it did. I love listening to your perspective.

[@deboraharroyo3047]

It's awesome to see Joel become a father again.

[@Kristers_K]

Lovely analysis as always. :) This episode was quite light-weight compared to the previous ones, especially the Bill and Frank one which made me cry my eyeballs out for the whole week, but the bonding and mirroring of events from the game in this episode was quite wonderful to see regardless. You could clearly see that Joel is a caring person internally and he gradually began to break down those walls that made him emotion-less. The laughs at the episode's end was a really nice touch.

[@GeorgiaDow]

Glad you enjoyed it! yes it was a much different feel and we probably needed some lightness

[@marvinetnel3556]

Then it dawned on me. 🤣 Love that one. And your commentary

[@GeorgiaDow]

so punny

[@piphead]

I have suffered all my life with chronic diarrhea and now they make fun of it in the show. How am I meant to cope?

[@Eckister]

thank you Georgia! your thoughts on trust and parenthood inspired me. I was rased in the "I'm the boss and you're the kid" way, which does make me fall into those rails with my infant as well, takes some effort to overcome that. buuut I guess it'll be worth it. :o)

[@najtrows]

I love your videos on these episodes. Some things I have thought in some way or another but you put them in easy to understand terms. The writing is so grounded (Last of Us game pun intented) and natural.

[@grimm516]

Nice job George 👏, this show so far gives me good vibes I have heard people rumbling about this being a bad show, well from what I've seen/heard about this show it appears to be a good adaptations.

[@hydrangeadragon]

they don't even really know each other yet and yet they still have a more loving and respectful relationship than me my dad have ever had :( bit jealous ngl

[@bowi1332]

10:08 I'm curious to read more from you about what you said about Ellie being old enough for Joel to refrain from "imparting knowledge"... I learned that in "group dynamic" (I don't know about trios who then lose someone from death and become a dyad...😬), the early stage is often characterized where someone or some people in the group will act in a more "directive" manner, up until the group reaches a maturity... Also, when someone is recognized/regarded as an "expert", both that person and the rest of the group will often switch to a "teacher/learner" mode. Considering Joel and Ellie's relationship is still very fresh and mostly "task-oriented", I'm not surprised that Joel did not ask her "how do you feel", *especially since Joel is probably VERY comfortable with the idea of this dyad remaining purely focused on the task.* 😅😥 Sorry for digressing and rambling. I'm seizing the opportunity to think about old classes. 😅 I admit that *dyads* were not in the scope of my classes. Also, sorry for my broken English.

[@bowi1332]

In a way... It appears that Episode 4 is when this "task-oriented" duo becomes more equal/balanced, and more personal... I can't wait for Episode 5 which will surely introduce everyone to this new duo we meet at the very end of E04! ;) ... Back to the rest of the video! 😅🍿

[@kalquien]

Really enjoying your work in these videos. Your commentary and choice of scenes are very heartfelt. I am enjoying the dynamic of the show and the bonds of these characters as they grow. Not sure how much you are into Star Wars but I there are some great things in the Andor series I would love to see your take on.

[@annaleft9726]

i’ve been so excited for you to analyze the show once it comes out and feel so blessed that it’s by episode!!! totally enjoying the changes from the game. i was nervous as a diehard fan but i’m such a huge fan of the show’s iteration now too

[@pjotrh]

The eyebrow commitment!

[@GeorgiaDow]

thanks for noticing

[@KniteSparxx]

Love your video breakdowns ⚡️💯⚡️

[@rockindocs5716]

I think it is equal parts hilarious and fantastic that u added the scar to your eyebrow

[@GeorgiaDow]

awww so happy you noticed its people who appreciate the details which make it worth it. !!!

[@shazstar13]

Another great reaction 👏🏻 I love your way of explaining the psychology & giving examples of how to apply it in daily life & interactions. Thank you 💐

[@Atlessa]

I wish you'd talked about the... *ahem* 'interaction' between Ellie and Bryan. That seemed like a really important scene for her development...

[@GeorgiaDow]

that also would have been really interesting

[@bowi1332]

I'm always happy when I see a new upload from you about something I watched or play! 🙌

[@jamesd5842]

Let’s be honest. Puns are bad enough on their own

[@ericmiller93]

I’m just fuckin’ with ya

[@TeamEvil84]

Just found your channel. Really enjoy it.

[@GeorgiaDow]

Welcome aboard! hope you stay and be a part of my community

[@damianstarks3338]

This was the highlight of this episode.

[@thomassmart4088]

the sweetest

[@animeman84]

@Damian Starks Dude you’re everywhere I see 😂

[@knight449]

Those puns are practically dad jokes, if he laughs he's a dad again.🤔

[@alextorres8635]

I doubted that anyone could capture the spirit of Ashley Johnson's performance but she's really got it.

[@Mayhem_Inc]

The diarrhea is hereditary joke. Had my wife and I both laughing out loud. Seriously thought their relation they gave built in just 3ep is amazing and believable.

[@gameboi360]

All of us playing the game along with Joel during the puns sections "NO!"

[@GasparGa]

Wait, did you actually cut into your eyebrow just for this video? Haha that's dedication for sure

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[@Carlosmgcosta]

I won’t say how the game ends, and with it how this will likely end. But I will say this… Having beaten this game multiple times. I cannot stress how excited I am to see how the show does this.

[@BIGxBOSSxx1]

Disappointed you glossed over the part where Ellie is playing with the gun in the mirror and when she saves Joel by shooting Bryan. I’d like to know a therapists perspective on that kind of violence, plus it’s probably one of the more important parts of the episode.

[@GeorgiaDow]

that is an interesting part

[@ApexWarden]

Oh boy... You are definitely going to love this series because this relationship gets way way deeper. We may have seen a breach but it's still surface level compared to what is to come.

[@edwardtorres4553]

You have the full episodes of your patreon??

[@GeorgiaDow]

No sorry.i dont

[@cyb3rpunkt]

Where did you get the t-shirt? I've been looking for a distressed one like that.

[@GeorgiaDow]

I made it myself was a lot of fun to design it.

[@stringtales]

Damn. You skipped the part where Ellie shoots. Must've been hard

[@gumpenglish1]

I have played both games so I know how it will end

[@marksullivan7766]

awesome

[@themightyflog]

My wife and I took in a young girl when she was 18. she was a refugee escaping abuse. She's lived with us for years. How do I explain my fatherly bond? I kinda hate feeling like her dad. Is it weird?

[@nicolaiveliki1409]

I love this show

[@tonmandude]

I wish I could get CEU's by watching your channel lol

[@Antdevamp]

Going to sleep with no watch alternating? Okay.

[@thomassmart4088]

not having a code = not worth it to Joel

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

They are so cute

[@GoonHandz]

should we be warning the ppl that were mad about episode 3 that henry and sam are black? just don’t want anyone to be surprised and through a tantrum again.

[@raulrolon7]

Boy are you gonna have a ball for the season finale.

[@beckchasewolfe]

Cool outfit.

[@comicandothercons658]

😉

[@andyrobin7196]

Not gonna do the second half of House of the Dragon?

[@ShaqeelOatmeal]

Out of topic , are you Courtney Miller sister ?

[@gracogotit]

I love when these reactions finally come out!! You’re soo fun to watch haha 🙏🏼 I made a ‘last of us’ theme song remix if you’d like to take a listen queen🫶🏼❤️‍🔥

[@npg117]

I think this is a movie a written script so for a so called professional therapist to analyze it is just silly and a waist of time what's next your gonna analyze Sanford and son and talk about the problems with there father son relationship its a tv show get a life people

[@parappasan]

Guess nobody's watching your own therapy channel, eh bud?

[@Morgana255]

Waste… not waist. Go watch something else if this is such a waste of your time. Some of us like to use the lens of human experience used by a therapist to better understand why people do what they do.

[@npg117]

@parappasan yeah you are right nobody is but I could start one and that is pretty sad. A therapist reacting to an adult cartoon a video game LOL

[@Jay-ho9io]

You don't need to be a therapist to see that you're acting out. If the energy could be spared to pity you and it can't, you would be pittied because somebody's so empty that they crave negative attention by trying to injure the feelings of a KZbin creator for whatever brief spark of validation it gives them, that's pretty pitiful.

[@whoanellynelnel3874]

🚩🚩🚩I'm not sure which is worse, being a Joel simp tantrumming over his inevitable death or a game Ellie simp