The Last of Us Episode 6 BREAKDOWN - Spoilers, Reaction, Ending Explained, Easter Eggs!

[@kingsoraful]

She didn't like the ending. Then it's the game ending that we all know and love and that is EXTREMELY controversial.

[@rayking5399]

How controversial was it? I bought the game around 2016 or so and everyone liked it by that point?

[@Symz-III]

@@rayking5399 Have you played TLOU Part 2?

[@TheGoldenDonuttt]

@@Symz-III Not everyone hated part 2 though. And I doubt the end of this season will lead us straight to part 2 of the game given how popular the first season is.

[@Symz-III]

@J Y I didn't say anyone hated part 2, I asked if they played part 2 as a controversial decision made at the end of part 1 is the catalyst for part 2.

[@rayking5399]

@@Symz-III yes I did, and am one of the few people that actually likes it. I was asking the other dude how controversial part 1’s ending was back when it released.

[@CHarr1991]

I really felt the acting from Pedro during the talk with Tommy. Him trying hold back the floodgate of tears was riveting.

[@bluekryptonite1121]

100% agree. So powerful. I was attempting and FAILING to hold back my own floodgate of tears!

[@funfactmovie]

Ya right

[@phildo87]

It brought me to tears watching it. As a parent I know the feeling he is having and it was done so well.

[@agustin1027]

Yup

[@paulbismuth10]

Best moment for me in this episode.

[@Severian1]

I don't think Joel making Ellie choose was irresponsible. He knew Ellie would pick him. He spent some time "trying to steal a horse". Dude was just waiting for her, and Tommy knew it the moment he saw him. Joel is still stuck in that phase where he can't really say how much he cares for Ellie. There was no choice at all. He found a convoluted way to say he'd still make the journey with her.

[@briannesteele1285]

Exactly this, it was a cop out so that he didn’t have to say it lol

[@EzeICE]

Precisely this! Well said

[@TheKillaShow]

Joel knowing Ellie would choose him is the irresponsible thing to do. In the show, Joel is clearly a crutch with his disabilities. Tommy is a more able bodied man, who is not emotionally attached to Ellie at this moment. Joel's fear is that he is not capable physically and mentally for what is coming down the road on this mission. And well, hes probably right.

[@Severian1]

@@TheKillaShow Joel's fear was really about him losing another person he cared about. He has his disabilities yes, (and they are a contributing factor to him trying to get Tommy to take Ellie) but he can still handle himself as we see when they are attacked after they leave the commune. He's afraid that he will care and then lose another daughter. His concerns about his capabilities were how he covered it up. He is terrified of loss. He did not want to accept that he cares for her and express that. The responsible thing, he knew, was to get the job done himself, and not endanger his brother. Remember he has Tess in mind, whose dying wish was for him to help Ellie. The irresponsible thing was him pushing Ellie unto Tommy because he was afraid of losing her, and also afraid of the pain that losing her would cause him.

[@Azenithf]

@@TheKillaShow Joel wasn't afraid of not completing the mission he was afraid of losing another "sarah", i thought it was obvious with his convo with Tommy. Joel is not a very direct guy, but his brother understood.

[@miguelitoreyes5514]

Strongly disagree with Grace about Ellie's feelings about Joel. She 100% sees Joel as a father canonically in the games, and Neal/Craig said as much during their podcast discussing the episode. While it's true that their relationship isn't always healthy, it isn't because of that. It's actually because of how dangerous love can be in a world where NOTHING matters. It'll render you barbaric in order to protect your loved ones. Or drive you to blindly seek retribution. Their relationship isn't completely unhealthy either. Like the overall story and its themes, their relationship is more nuanced than something as binary as healthy vs unhealthy.

[@louisaparker]

I thought that "unhealthy" means, Joel and Ellie will become a couple. But I suppose that's not on the table yet.

[@JLo-uh4ir]

I love the actress who plays the Native American wife. Call back to Northern Exposure. She played the doctor's receptionist and was one of the highlights of that show. So awesome!

[@oathbreaker6150]

Theres firefly people 🤣

[@safirestudio]

I loved her. Her light humor was amazing

[@EzeICE]

Wow, nice call! I haven't seen Northern Exposure in years!!!!

[@vokasimid5330]

No one gives Graham Greene any shout out. Big fan of him since forever

[@Baalek1]

I think Elaine Miles is just playing this universe's version of Marilynn from Northern Exposure. That's my headcanon until someone proves otherwise.

[@Hellothere_453]

The game ending is perfection

[@manifesteddestiny.]

But will that be the show ending

[@randomguy2402]

@@manifesteddestiny. most likely yeah

[@manifesteddestiny.]

@@randomguy2402 we'll see

[@randomguy2402]

@@manifesteddestiny. guess we’ll have to see

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

@@manifesteddestiny.She says “if you played the game, you already know what’s coming” which tells me the ending is the same

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

Given how Grace processed episode 5, her initially not liking the finale means that the finale is gonna be on point. Also, the change in Joel's trauma response for the show is so fucking good.

[@rohegarcia2802]

I think Grace misunderstood that not everyone is simply entitled to everything. Throughout you hear them say that they traded items for other items. They didn’t just show up to someone’s house and take a sweater for Ellie or boots for Joel.

[@sillyskater2]

Grace seems to get their relationship yet seems to reject it because of what actions it leads to. But that’s what makes the story relatable and compelling.

[@TheKillaShow]

And she says as much in the video. She says its intellectually compelling even if she finds that the characters are making obvious mistakes.

[@uhuhuh1966]

She didn’t reject anything she just points out their relationship is toxic…which it is.

[@diegopansini3152]

She’s not rejecting it at all, she’s saying their relationship is what it is. We all know Joel and Ellie aren’t good people, especially for one another. Joel is desperate to have a daughter no matter the cost, and Ellie never grows up emotionally

[@ChillMode34]

@@uhuhuh1966 its insanely toxic.

[@jonofpdx]

​@urwrong I think they are referring to Grace saying the Ellie does not see Joel as a father figure.

[@catdaddysoprano]

Joel’s map trick is a great callback to what he’ll do later in this story… and someone else may be learning it too 🙃

[@reidgrant7036]

Cannot wait for a certain someone to do it in season 2 as well.

[@Thedarkside02]

Spoiler: I YELPED when she said that. That means we're getting the torture part during winter! "Focus right here right here" AGHHHHHH! It's gonna be glorious!

[@congeearcallo9932]

The heart panic/anxiety attack Joel is experiencing here is actually from an original concept of the game back when Neil Druckmann was still in college. In that concept, a cop with a heart condition is protecting a young girl from the infected, but the role of protector between the cop and the girl would switch at times when the cop is suffering from his condition. It's a pretty neat addition here in the show, and I love how they implemented it for the story.

[@michaeltolivar4646]

First grace complained early that Tess and Joel talked about how they aren’t good people but she didn’t see it. Now that she’s seen all episodes she complains that later basically shows he’s not a good person. 🙃

[@AnthonyMcNeil]

That's because she's team Joel and she finally realizes how bad of a person he is. Even Tommy said they murdered people. Yeah, I'm glad the show is showing how bad he is.

[@TheKillaShow]

They still havent shown it. They just keep talking and talking and talking about it hoping you just believe them. But in this world we already accept doing fucked up things to live on, so its a little bit jarring. But this is all really just justification for later events that didnt land very well in the video game.

[@4evasmooth]

​@@TheKillaShow I think it's necessary that they don't show it because though we accept as the audience and fans of the game that people in this unfortunate world will do anything to survive, showing Joel on the other side of the fence so to speak would change our entire perception of his character. Imagine a prequel game of an early Joel and Tommy killing innocents and raiding for supplies. It would ruin how these characters are viewed. It's more ambiguous leaving the mystery behind it alone...in my opinion anyway

[@miguelitoreyes5514]

The way people talk about Joel being a bad person is crazy to me. It's not that black and white. He's not "bad" in the same way David or Kathleen were. Those two are too far gone. Joel is not. He's broken and violent and has done awful things to live. But he still has the capacity for good. Saying he's a bad person is too binary and defeats what makes the character so compelling

[@ICU1337]

And yet she still thinks that Joel should tell everyone in the town about Ellies condition 🤦🏽‍♂🤦🏽‍♂🤦🏽‍♂ How _trusting_

[@izumolee6714]

The line Joel tells Ellie before they leave for the University that she should have a choice will come back ten folds when the ending is concerned. I love that foreshadowing that Craig & Neil added. And for those who have played the game than that 'choice' is significant.

[@miguelitoreyes5514]

They literally played the track "The Path" from the game's OST as they rode off towards Colorado. That track plays directly after Ellie confronts Joel about the events in the hospital, during the end credits. Ingenious foreshadowing

[@yeahiagree1070]

The Fireflies gave her (and Joel) no choice.. They were going to perform a fatal procedure on her without consent - that's murder.

[@lolasnormandy]

I don’t think Maria taking Ellie’s dirty clothes was that big of a deal? Like I get all the other problems with how Jackson is run and I agree, but saying she basically took her stuff because of communism is such a weird takeaway imo. Had she taken her backpack and her other personal belongings to distribute it to the community then I’d understand, but it was literally just dirty, worn clothes that were not shown to have any kind of emotional or personal connection to her. When she said the “rag pile” I assume they will just be made into rags to clean or something. Also she gave her clean and newer clothes! And a menstrual cup? Invaluable in an apocalypse. Yeah, maybe she should’ve asked first, but saying it was because of communism is a bit of a reach.

[@safirestudio]

Yeah, that was a weird take. But communism is kind of a trigger word in the US, so people don't understand the fundamentals of what it actually means (even countries who've claimed to be that) and people have viceral reactions. Propaganda works.

[@BTBSOUNDS]

The show has been showing and telling you Joel isn't a good person and that he's a broken man. This isn't a character change for him, this is him showing his true self. There's a reason Joel is up there as one of the most debated about characters, why he's listed as the villain of this game on the Villains Wiki. He's the good guy in his story and he's doing what he thinks is right, just as every good villain thinks. He's also the bad guy in a lot of other people's stories, who think they're the good guys and are willing to do what they think is right. The Last of Us is about a cycle of violence and the consequences on people, it just happens to be set in a "zombie" world but that's not what it is about. It's about more primal emotions and desires

[@TheKillaShow]

Who is a good person in the show or games tho? Who isnt broken? Where are the heroes?

[@BTBSOUNDS]

@@TheKillaShow that's the thing, there isn't. There's purity thats scarred with Ellie and Sam, there's people trying to be better that get brought to shit like Tess, Tommy and Dina, there's people trying to move on and live happy lives after doing decidedly terrible things like Henry, Abby and Joel and there's people just trying to live and survive their circumstances like Jesse, Riley, Lev and Yara. There are no good or bad people which is something that Grace seems to have a hard time grasping. You don't root for anyone, this isn't that kinda story. This isn't a "good defeats evil, light overcomes darkness" story. You're simply witnessing a story play out and watching these very real feeling characters act like real people do (in most cases)

[@TheKillaShow]

@@BTBSOUNDS "You dont root for anyone" this is simply not true. And you know that.

[@michealvega1373]

@@BTBSOUNDS These people are...simply....The Last of Us. 😉

[@staind687]

Episode 6 is proof that you dont need to see the infected (besides Ellie lol) with the strong emotional drama. It was great to see Joel humanized like that.

[@ymcavalier3555]

It’s been established on the show that Tommy is fickle. He gets manipulated or convinced really easily. I liked how Joel was so guarded when he met Tommy and Maria

[@Azenithf]

That's why he's a good survivalist, saying someone is infected but immune to ppl he doesn't know and to tommy who he hasn't seen in ages?? Also the fact they have killed ppl to keep this place so hidden and safe lol grace wtf

[@robsgamingchannel2077]

The monkeys are a game Easter egg, you end up finding an audio file for them, explaining basically why they were at the university

[@LK1989]

Grace: "are there any lawyers in this place?" Maria: a lawyer telling everyone Joel can't be trusted. XD

[@baymcculloch]

Are there any lawyers? Yes, Tommy’s new wife! Awkward 😂

[@robb209]

I don't know what the chair story is trying to prove. They have their own houses and even set up Joel & Ellie in a house of their own.

[@emmanuelhtrevino]

It proves that Grace doesn't understand what communism is.

[@lippemartinsm]

She thinks communism is sharing your toothbrush haha

[@Protorit]

While not myself a fan of communism, equating someone taking your unattended chair to eat lunch shouldn't be a criticism of communism. It's more of a critique of Capitalist cutting corners to save money and not buying an adequate amount of chairs in the first place.

[@kevinstfort]

Bingo!

[@thefearmakerlive]

Joel and Ellie weren't comfortable there because they didn't trust anyone there, and the people there didn't trust him. Also, Tommy tells Joel he did those bad things, he didn't deny them. Tommy didn't send Joel to die, He is going to take Ellie and Joel changes his mind. Tommy didn't tell Maria because he told Joel he wouldn't, Tommy keeps his word. Ellie isn't a leader, she's someone who doesn't easily trust, so she's willing to protect herself, not willing to lead others. You're missing a lot of the context, Grace.

[@seelfire4725]

she also missed maria literally nodded to joel while saying bad reputation dioenst mean being a bad person..

[@simpleplanfan011]

Now I see what Troy Baker was speaking about when he said he learned things about Joel from Pedro’s performance. You can’t go through all that trauma without breaking down, both physically and mentally. It’s an interesting and sadly realistic development for his character.

[@Lufe_Stark]

wait where the hell was troy??? i thought he would be part of David's group

[@LovedByYou]

If anything this episode really highlighted Pedro’s acting!! He was so captivating in this episode. And you can see these two are connected, more than anything!!!!

[@alexm1463]

This episode has so many Easter eggs to the second game! Jackson looks ripped right out of game 2 and that quick Dina cameo in the lunch hall!

[@wonderlanddreamer1021]

Yes, this episode is amazing for game fans. Full of small little things that just remind you of what is to come.

[@okotaiofficial]

was she sitting next to dina and jesse when watching a movie????

[@wonderlanddreamer1021]

@@okotaiofficial Jessie didn't show up. Dina was the girl that was looking at her in the cafeteria.

[@okotaiofficial]

@@wonderlanddreamer1021 yeah not officially was it jesse but it could have been or at least i’d like to think it was.

[@maqeurious]

The game ending was amazing, and really made you think. You mentioned the vicious change coming in Joel, well...I'm waiting for it. The conversation in the opening about pointing to the same place on the map WILL come back and it's one of the scenes you really see how dark Joel will go to find Ellie. This whole storyline coming up (Winter in the game) is my favourite. I can't wait to see how devided the ending makes people (that sounds bad but it leads to interesting conversations) especially with people who HAVEN't played the game.

[@der4815162342]

that moment of henry realising his failure is joel's state of mind the whole time... his personal limbo

[@queentanr]

Having played the games I fully know what you mean by the end. In the game the end doesn't let you off the hook with an easy "resolution". On the contrary, it really requires the player/audience to ponder philosophical/ethical questions that may not have simple answers. I was wondering (and was somewhat concerned) if they were gonna make the ending more digestible for the show but it seems they don't, which actually makes me feel better because what makes TLOU exceptional as a story is the complex flawed humanity it portrays.

[@roperjuliano1234]

To add, the way Ellie and Maria take clear sides of Joel or Tommy also showcases the theme of tribalism that's so prevalent in both games. I missed Rutina since True Blood, so glad to see her in a big property again 🥲

[@Hellothere_453]

You would hate game Joel if you don’t like him being violent lol

[@ronburgundy3172]

In the game Joel goes full rambo throughout the whole story

[@emiliohernandez7214]

I didn't expect Joel to unleash his emotions like that to Tommy. He's been so vulnerable! I really appreciated that he felt comfortable enough to be vulnerable his own brother My brother and I are like that

[@sunnyjim9810]

One of the great things about Tommy in the game, was that how he still loved his brother and showed it. He was haunted by the actions they carried out in the name of “surviving”. As he said, “it sure weren’t worth it”.

[@Geinrendour]

The point about the chair was just too funny for me, like if that was some real communism. That is just a company or whatever that didn't want to give y'all chairs and made you fight for a few ones. It doesn't get more capitalist than that with the agressive competition for space/confort/material things.

[@kevinstfort]

Exactly. I just laughed at that example. Totally didn’t understand her issue was with capitalism, not communism.

[@emmanuelhtrevino]

Grace is a capitalist who doesn't understand what communism is. She like most people think capitalism is freedom and individual property and communism is taking all your stuff

[@safirestudio]

This. Capitalism is the one that always makes sure many don't have what they need because the capitalists won't give it to you.

[@lippemartinsm]

I was ready to hear some constructive criticism about communism and then... she comes with the chair story man. Like HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@theoawilliams]

I played both games several times by now. I've watch countless hours of KZbin videos about the games. This is the first time I heard someone take a different view of the relationship. I think it's dead on! They are both looking at this relationship differently! When you understand it like that there are so many things that start to make sense in both games. Brave analysis and pretty genius Grace

[@DaRealTawk]

Nah, Joel and Ellie definitely have a father daughter dynamic. Not a friend dynamic. The game makes that more clear.

[@uhuhuh1966]

She didn’t say they don’t have a father daughter dynamic lol she was talking about each characters perspective not what the audience sees or feels. From Joel’s perspective, it’s father daughter, but from Ellie’s it’s friendship mentor. Why would Ellie want a surrogate father? She wants to be grown and a badass not seen as a baby.

[@user57589hkchJgndttydX]

@@uhuhuh1966 How did you misinterpret the characters this badly? Joel sees Ellie as his daughter, Ellie sees Joel as her father. Plain and simple. It's not about "wanting" a surrogate father or daughter. Joel isn't consciously looking for a surrogate daughter, and Ellie isn't consciously looking for a surrogate father. That's the point. As they go along on their journey, the father-daughter bond forms without either of them realising it. Ellie can be grown and a badass while still considering Joel to be her father figure. Do you genuinely think she would murder half the population of a city for a "friendship mentor"?💀

[@bayviewr3]

@@uhuhuh1966 Nope. Ellie sees Joel as her father figure. How stupid do you have to be to miss the entire point of the game lmao

[@adeolaatitebi4575]

Grace you say you don't want to spoil episode 9 or the finale but you say you didn't like it. Nobody asked you. Can you just review the episode in front of you. Which is episode 6 and just be quiet about you seeing all 9 episodes. Thank U.

[@32roho]

I agree! Yes, just review the episode and leave the season review until the season ends. These companies are making a big mistake giving critics advance screeners.

[@randomguy2402]

I’m curious to hear your reasons for disliking the ending… cause it like, kinda represents the point of the story lol

[@Wellspring604]

Grace, loving these in-depth breakdowns! Shout out to Graham Greene, a First Nations Canadian actor. It's nice seeing him as the old man in the beginning of this ep. Also nice seeing Rutina Wesley from True Blood; I actually said "Oh, it's Tara!", haha.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

How they added some new things for Tommy and Maria is making me nervous for what's to happen in Part II for them and The dialogue with Ellie saying, “Joel, you gotta get up.” gave me huge flashbacks from Part 2.

[@kacektv9405]

The ending is suppose to be pretty divisive in the game and booooooy howdy does it have ripples later on and thats why the 2 games work as a masterpiece together for me. So excited knowing you know how this all settles out and how that will affect the next 2 weeks leading to the finale as far as your breakdowns go!!!

[@roperjuliano1234]

I find it very interesting when siblings have their birth family which can be messy and real, but when those family members start their own lives and develop families of their own some people avoid their birth family after, its a reality they don't want to be reminded of. That's how it felt with Tommy & Joel this episode; Tommy found his paradise and Joel is a reminder of a darker past he doesn't want to remember. I think Maria was giving off disdain towards Joel for what he "led" Tommy to do in the early stages of the outbreak. Love is complicated

[@zachymoore]

"my experience with communism is working in a corporate office" i can't stop laughing

[@lippemartinsm]

Right?? Hahahaha

[@grynch6653]

Lol, grace the ending hits very hard. I have a feeling you will not like TLOU part 2 if you didn’t like the ending of part 1

[@Sjekje1]

There is no part 2 in 'Ba sing se'

[@FuzzyBagels]

In the game Tommy is pretty adamant about having regrets from his years with Joel, and it does not at all seem that he was coerced into this. At one point, after Tommy refuses to take Ellie, Joel says something like "This is how you're gonna repay me for all those years I took care of us?", to which Tommy replies "Took care of us? I got nothing but nightmares from those years." The game spends a lot more time exploring Tommy and Joel's relationship and history together, as well as the events leading up to Joel changing his mind and taking Ellie. I enjoyed episode 6 but I think of all the episodes so far, this one failed more than any other episode to fully convey the story subtext shown in the game. Again, still love this episode, but it's really a shame as this was one of the best sequences in the game. I highly recommend anyone interested in learning more go look up a video of this portion of the game.

[@ronburgundy3172]

yeah they did skip a few things and Tommy and Joel made up so fast in the game they didn't really have any closure after they fought in the dam

[@jonk3714]

I agree 100% the game was so much better, it angers me that they changed so much when the game did it perfectly.

[@mayasanders1046]

​@@jonk3714 facts

[@BTBSOUNDS]

Well the game went over Joel and Tommy and almost entirely ignored Ellie and Maria and here we got to see that conversation between Ellie and Maria while also setting up their tumultuous relationship in part 2 so we lose a bit of the game but we also gain a bit over the game

[@TheKillaShow]

@@jonk3714 Too bad the TV show doesnt have 25 hours to tell the games story.

[@Social_Pugatory]

The commune did not prevent Tommy from contacting Joel. They prevented him from broadcasting their location over the radio. I too wouldn’t put Tommy finding his (potentially dead) brother over the safety of an entire living thriving community of people. If he was gonna radio Joel I would make him get a comfortable distance away from the town before he tries that and endangers EVERYONE.

[@nickmartinez1151]

joel is and ALWAYS has been a selfish, violent, out-of-control person. if you didn’t see that in the game, you weren’t paying attention !!!!!!

[@ninopapalia1461]

Yep Joel and Tess said it they are bad people who have done bac things

[@ronburgundy3172]

Yep in my first playthrough I though I liked Joel but as time goes by I more and more start to think deep down he is just a deeply disturbed man

[@TheKillaShow]

Out of control?

[@nickmartinez1151]

@@TheKillaShow He’s not in control of his emotions at all. He can control a room full of people trying to kill him, but not his inner turmoil.

[@Gregor_Von_DOOM]

Maria said they kill people who try them. Meaning raiders/hunters. They leave the bodies out as a front to avoid conflict. Joel killed innocent people because they had things he needed to survive. That is why Tommy said there was another way.

[@lippemartinsm]

It's not that complex. She's just nitpicking

[@alexdewayne9392]

Team Joel? Wait til she meets team Abby. Last of Us Part 2 is world war 3 with gamers. She didn't like the end of this season. Some of us gamers didn't like the beginning of part 2.

[@michaeln3044]

Calling Joel and Ellie’s relationship toxic feels like such 2020’s focus thing to say. I’ve seen a ton of people comment they wanted more time for bonding and conversations and what not in their journey. I don’t know what the hell kind of kumbaya families ya’ll grew up in but from 15-17 I had maybe three real convos with my parents. Ellie and Joel talk a ton on screen and I’m sure in three months have spoken multiple times as well. I feel like maybe this bonding thing is a nice idea we have in our heads but is really mostly utilitarian in practice…I think we grossly overestimate how much exchange should occur…

[@None38389]

I think you are thinking of the idea of a "toxic relationship" on the surface level too much, the issue isn't that they are "not bonding", the issues is that they are feeding into each other's trauma in an unhealthy way. Joel was not "healed" by Ellie, Ellie is more like a distraction from the pain that is the lost of Sarah which he didn't want to deal with. He emotionally "replaced" Sarah with Ellie so he doesn't have to go through the hard part of healing.

[@PapoOv]

I love that Grace is getting to the same conclusions about what drives Joel and Ellie respectively as we who played the games and had had year to analyze their relation. Shows that the show is translating the source material perfectly

[@Dead_pixelz_]

Counter argument for why Tommy maybe didn’t want Joel to journey to Jackson: the journey itself could’ve been a death sentence. Tommy maybe thought Joel just would’ve been safer staying put wherever he was. I’d be very worried to ask a family member to cross the country in this world.

[@xavierjohnson4312]

I love the journey with Joel and Ellie, is so relatable and hard to say anyone else would not feel or do same in their situation.

[@PedroHenrique-qr6os]

We Said that joel wasn’t a hero …

[@nickstanton6021]

Be careful, anytime grace has seen all the episodes before public, she can't help but spoil the rest of the season. It's hard for her to just stick to the current episode

[@ejoshcoron]

I came to the comments to say the same thing! As soon as she started the ep with "I've seen all 9 eps" I stopped watching.

[@wyatt6403]

This episode does a great job setting up the ending…also the ending gets better the more you think about it and the more you analyze the story

[@adrianperez7810]

If she didn't like it I'm SURE it's the same as the game lol which I love

[@Aussie27Legend]

if people can't handle the end of 1 how are they going to go with the whole of 2 lol

[@lippemartinsm]

@Aussie Legend I'm already seeing it, she will definitely be one the part 2 haters

[@mrd1703]

'Everybody loved contractors' i spit out my water i laughed so hard.

[@xxfutureisnowxx]

The map interrogation tactic was done wayyyy better in the game....wish they saved it for the David episode

[@vokasimid5330]

Can't wait to see the actor for this delicious role

[@cazory2147]

"I didn't like the ending". Why are you telling people that now?! JHCIAHB! And "being a guide" is no excuse.

[@JRiley187]

Funny you mentioned the chair story. When I was younger I worked for a major newspaper. And same deal. Every time I left my desk, I'd come back and my chair would be gone. Editors and reporters would have these impromptu meetings and "chairs would be needed". Always was an odd "sooo what do I do now?" feeling

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

Wow, that's crazy we had such similar experiences! I feel your pain.

[@claudegrenier3180]

Aaahhh yes, the pain.... the pain of *sharing* ..... 🙄

[@safirestudio]

@@claudegrenier3180 😂

[@michealvega1373]

@@claudegrenier3180 Sharing is consensual Claude. Aintcha learn nothing in grade skewl?

[@claudegrenier3180]

@@michealvega1373 🤣

[@jacobkirk1846]

I was surprised at how many references and set ups there were in this episode to TLOU Part 2. There was so much set up that will loop back around in future seasons.

[@Hellothere_453]

I’m sorry… you DIDNT like the ending?

[@uhuhuh1966]

I mean it’s definitely not a happy ending like she wants lol

[@robsgamingchannel2077]

It was a divisive ending when the game originally released

[@CeelahBeelah]

There's a vocal minority who don't like what Joel did in the end of the first game and some even say he deserved what he got in the 2nd game because of the choices he made.

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

She likes Joel and in the end Joel becomes the bad guy

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

@@CeelahBeelahTbf Joel does deserve what happens to him and the game goes out of its way to say so

[@xxapoloxx]

Called it!! I said she was not going to like the ending.

[@_KungFuBarbie_]

All I could think during this episode was how Pedro Pascal is perfectly cast as Joel. Legendary stuff man.

[@neutralman9124]

Another fantastic episode. The highlight was Emmy worthy performances from Ramsey and Pascal. I think they're both in the running for Emmys. THe ending of the first game is one of the best endings in all of media and will probably win all the awards. This is the new Game of Thrones.

[@xxfutureisnowxx]

I hope that Grace's insinuations about Joel changing during the last episodes means we get the "ruthless killer" Joel....that's gotta happen in order to really sell premise of the next seasons

[@attentivesyria]

I don’t agree that elli doesn’t see Joel as her paternal figure, she is pushing boundaries because she is a teenager

[@vokasimid5330]

Shout out to Graham Greene. Huge fan since Die Hard With A Vengeance

[@josephprins1258]

The game ending is art.

[@GoonHandz]

i’ve never gone along with neil druckmann’s take on joel and ellis’s relationship. i’m just a humble game player and viewer, and i won’t spoil anything, but i feel his take is very cynical and totally vilifies joel (just like everyone seems to be doing in episode 6 lol) and disregards ellie’s actual agency. no one will convince me that the inciting incidence was not self defense and the only way druckmann can make it work for part two is a straight retconn. i wonder if that’s what he’ll do here.

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

The game very clearly paints Joel as the villain. Also, lol at “I don’t agree with the creators take on his own work”

[@ronburgundy3172]

@@BlazerManiacNumber96 Even though Joel is a man who would do anything for his family It's pretty clear by the end of the game that he has serious issues

[@RJ_____________]

i liked episode 6. i liked how they developed even more the relationship between Joel and Tommy. and i also liked how they developed even more the relationship between Joel and Ellie. i liked the actress that they chose to be Maria. pretty good acting of her, in my opinion. i also liked the couple on the beginning. that's awesome that you watched all the nine episodes, Grace. i think that it was a nice Breakdown. i think it was prety nice to hear your thughts on this episode.

[@howiehiew]

Grace said she wasn't going to spoil anything. But is it me, or did she pretty much give away that Joel did not die at the end of episode 6?

[@Damiana_Dimock]

As an anarcho-communist I feel compelled to just point out that’s a pretty lib take on leftists, specifically communists-In particular, that there is a distinction between private property and personal property, private property being what we want to abolish: Private property being, mainly, the means of production-Things like factories, the machines in factories, etc. Personal property is another matter, you can totally keep your chair, your jacket, your TV, your tools & toys, or whatever else you take with you when you move from one apartment or house to another.

[@Ndnjtj]

Yo, I'm watching with friends who've NEVER experienced the story. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but you're giving away key points that point to the ending. This is a superb retelling and I'd like them to experience this as untainted as they can. But thank you for your analysis. I enjoyed it. I also love Joel.

[@fletchersykes1660]

I strongly urge people to play the games because they're that damn good. Grace's analysis is very insightful and interesting to hear because its always great seeing someone appreciate and give their perspective on content that others realised years prior in a different medium. This show does a great job adapting the game and although the destined outcome has already been experienced, the journey as conveyed somewhat differently is still great to experience and frankly underscores just how talented Druckmann and the Naughty Dog team are.

[@hannahlee4878]

reminder: this show is about love and its positive and negative effects, NOT saving the world

[@butchgamboa5901]

Grace: "No Spoilers!" Also Grace: "I didnt like the ending"

[@1000greyes]

Don’t forget tommy was a follower and followed Joel. Joel and Tess did bad things. Timmy knew that Joel and Tess were heading down a dark path.

[@nolifeSnorlax]

I was pretty disapointed that they changed how Joel gets injured... that was so lame :/

[@Jigglypoof]

I dunno how Grace got "just friends" from Ellie and Joel's relationship. The father-daughter relationship is the foundation of the entire story. Bill even addressed Joel as a protector. He's her guardian. When Ellie rested her head on the back of Joel while riding horseback this episode, I certainly didn't get a BFF❤️ vibe from them. He's very clearly a father figure in her life, and she's learning from him (for better or worse).

[@Jbreezzyyy]

“I think Joel and Ellie would go crazy if they lived there” 😂😂😅

[@DreActually]

Going back to the Henry and Sam Ep. It was very Anne Frank how the Dr hid them in the attic as they hid from the soldiers

[@J03J3rk0ff]

“You know, you could’ve just made something up. I would’ve believed you.”

[@RainbowMarc]

As someone who played the game, I think your take is really interesting, even though I do not share it. To me, it seems like Joel splits ppl up in 'family' and 'everyone else' to handle the terrible things he has had to do. He would do anything for family, ANYTHING to keep them alive, but he doesn't let himsrlf care about others not belonging in that group. I feel like Joel and Ellie have become a family, but he does not want to see it. That's why the confrontation is so important. At this point, she really is his adopted daughter. And he realizes in this world where not much is left how much this connection matters. When he can't run away from her and she goes with him, he accepts her as his family and she does too. They finally don't have any walls between each other. Which makes what happens next even more hearbreaking and maybe explains the end a bit. But yes, I agree. A masterpiece. And as with any masterpiece, different ppl get different things from it. :)

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

I don’t know how anyone could not like the ending. It has one of the most impactful and perfect endings to a story like this. It’s a brilliant masterpiece.

[@thebest3702]

some people disagree with Joel's actions but still agree it was a great ending even if they don't fully agree with character decisions.

[@waylo0820]

We dont need a guide through these last episodes. We are waiting for THAT ending. It better not be different from the game!!! This show is sooooo good!!!!

[@yb6038]

We all know what Tommy does in tlou part 2 so it’s ironic to see that he’s trying to move past the bad things he did

[@netflixmembresia445]

Funny how Joel and Ellie dont trust jackson, but it the most friendly place in tlou universe

[@joweydelanota7421]

I came here for an episode 6 review not your take on episode 9. If we tokk your guidance to heart we won't be watching the show.

[@teppeiando]

I was mostly excited to see Marilyn from Northern Exposure at the beginning. It looked like her then she spoke and I knew for sure.

[@tomportz4029]

I really feel like this show will feel so much different when binging rather than the slow digest over time

[@maklenard899]

this show is unbingable, unless you wanna cry for 9 hours.

[@hedruum]

Rutina Wesley is fantastic!

[@3IRDDY]

When Ellie mentioned the moon; I cried cause I thought about that one scene in TLOU Part II where they go to the museum/zoo and they enter a space shuttle and they have a moment in there; where she imagines that she is launching into space. I believe it was Ellie's Birthday. AHHH!

[@raymondseye]

Another great episode exploring every angle of what the series is all about thru each episodes. It’s old school series building and it’s been a long time since I have watched a great tv show like it. Also, what a great brotherhood story and of course the main character’s Joel - a true definition of a modern hero. I wish all the MCU series were done this way and I would have appreciated it a little bit more; not like a long movie chopped 8x to make a series out of it LOL.

[@mattdawzonyosores6005]

If they stay true to the game then I am gonna love the finale

[@thatguy3101]

It's really great seeing how you understood how both Ellie and Joel see their relationship. Being aware of the differences in how they both see their relationship helps one understand why certain choices were made at the end and why those choices didn't sit well with certain characters. Also the idea of Ellie thinking herself as a hero is important to catch because you clearly see how important it is for her to be the cure. Being the cure is how she feels she'll be redeemed after seeing others around her die for being infected.

[@randycropsey6131]

I think she's pretty far off ellie definitely sees joel as a father figure they go even further in depth with the second game and the flashbacks

[@jonk3714]

Pedro’s joel is too kind and lovable, the game’s Joel was so much tougher and harsh. I dont like what they did to Joel’s character AT ALL. Pedro’s acting is amazing as usual, but I blame the writing for how much they changed him.

[@xKayNee]

Yeah at first I was a bit shocked at the change. But I think for new viewers that haven't played the game, they will be more emotionally connected to Joel this way and it will make season 2 much more _____ for them

[@jefuryo]

I love how you analyzed the videos Grace, I felt it but not fully realized it until you mention it. Thank you so much. Big fan here from Washington, DC!!!

[@BeyondTheTrailer]

I'm so glad you're enjoying my breakdowns, Jeff!

[@Cosmoho]

The ending is what elevates the story and makes The Last of Us what it is. If you don’t like it, I’d argue that’s kind of the point - it’s challenging. It’s not objectively bad, as in poorly written. It’s a fundamental disagreement with certain characters and their actions.

[@TurtleTarp]

I never understood in the games or here why Maria thought it was cool to tell Ellie about Joel's daughter , when Maria has never met Joel. It's weird as hell to me