The latest: Pac-12 currently weighing expansion options

The Pac-12 reportedly added a seventh member in Utah State late on Monday as the league looks to get to at least eight football members by 2026. Here's the latest following a busy day in conference realignment.
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[@butchcassidy8965]

PAC-12 needs to grab Texas State

[@STC987]

Agree

[@2018josh]

No thank you.

[@roderickturner9806]

Why Texas St? 1. Located between Austin and San Antonio so access to two nice size TV markets. 2. Student body of 40,000. 3. 30,000 seat football stadium. Stop turning down your noses to Texas St. PAC 12 still needs 8 programs to meet the conference eligibility requirements for NCAA. Utah St makes #7, UNLV potentially #8. For scheduling purposes, a 9th team means you can schedule 8 conference games and that's where Texas St makes sense.

[@roderickturner9806]

​@BuffaloPros because a 9th team means you can have 8 conference games. That's one less OOC game you have to worry about. UTSA, Memphis, Tulane, and others would still be in play to eventually get to 12 teams.

[@butchcassidy8965]

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[@calvinmarshall4686]

I’m a Boise State fan. I hate the fact they keep pulling from the mountain west. It’s basically going to turn into the mountain west 2.0 with 2 pac-12 teams and a new nameBoise State wanted to leave the mountain west for more competition and recognition. They can’t get more recognition or credit they deserve if they keep playing the same teams for a conference title. Just because Boise State is a pac-12 team, are they suddenly magically relevant just because of the pac12 name? It’s ridiculous. We should have gone to the Big12 instead of other teams like UCF. We’ve had more history of success than UCF has

[@c.ryan.shryock]

Unfortunately for Boise State, Florida is a much more fertile recruiting ground than Idaho (or the whole PNW for that matter).

[@dpjacobs28]

It’s about eyeballs, Boise just isn’t a big enough market to move the needle. Really has little to do with program success (but does play a role)….its about how much money will the program bring to enrich the others. SDSU has the same issue, just not a big enough market to add.

[@ShaneStruthers-ur3cu]

Gonzaga vs UConn would feed families

[@DayOneRob]

No way UNLV doesn’t join the PAC. They know by staying in the MW is literally the nail in the coffin.

[@brendankelly9037]

Not to mention the PAC’s interest in their program which has been on the up recently and being in the Vegas tv market

[@e-rab_malibu34]

​@@brendankelly9037Well technically the Vegas TV market is like #49 or something like that but I agree with the notion that being in Vegas carries appeal. You'd bring an NFL stadium into whatever conference you go into and plus Vegas is growing rapidly. I think UNLV feels they're a big enough deal to bide their time tbh

[@ryansuter4424]

PAC 12 needs to get guaranteed basketball games against UCONN if they bring on their football team. Remember that Uconn has not gone to other conferences because the other conferences would not take their football team. Use that as leverage.

[@noelramirez1551]

😂 you honestly think UConn is going to fly to the other side of the country for "10" million........ FOH

[@ryansuter4424]

@@noelramirez1551 Yes! UConn has not joined other conferences because they would not accept their football program. They want their football team part of a conference. College teams are flying all Over the place mainly for football exposure and money. Not sure what FOH means.

[@STC987]

@@noelramirez1551 no different than what teams do for non conference games. 4 times a year isn’t all the crazy.

[@noelramirez1551]

@@ryansuter4424 it means like GTFOH but shorter...... You guys realize UConn is currently losing 5 million a year for just having a football team they're not going to add to that by traveling across the US for 10 million

[@joeguerra8435]

After a needlessly tumultuous year for the PAC 2, now we have the PAC 6 and PAC 7. And UNLV perhaps waiting in the wings, there finally appears light at the end of the PAC 2.0 tunnel. It’s a great day to be in the PAC!

[@Habitual_mufn]

1. Oregon State 2. Washington State 3. Boise State 4. Fresno State 5. San Diego State 6. Colorado State 7. Utah State 8. UNLV 9. Hawaii (FB) 10. Gonzaga (BB) PAC-10 Baby

[@STC987]

No Hawaii. They play their home games at a practice facility. If you are going to fly a long distance, take UConn.

[@Habitual_mufn]

@@STC987 is UConn really a step up from Hawaii? Also why would they want to join? Hawaii has to travel far to play everyone. UConn doesn't

[@kevinpedersenhis9395]

I think UNLV will change their minds and join the PAC12 now that USU intends to join. MWC will have to add New Mexico State, UTEP, and Texas State?

[@dpjacobs28]

That would be great for MWC

[@sunsensational]

UConn with BB scheduling commitment works

[@KaelanF]

Need UNLV, Texas State and UTSA. Memphis and Tulane should come after we get a TV deal. Memphis and Tulane have no chance at the playoff in the AAC

[@mikeygoda]

Teams east of the Mississippi don’t want to join the WAC12

[@DayOneRob]

They will when UNLV, Texas state, and UTSA join the PAC. This all about behind the scenes negations and politics. If you think for one second the PAC isn’t still negotiating with some AAC teams, you’re mistaken.

[@PCSPounder]

UTSA said no. Texas State will have to say no because the travel cost will nail them. Neither keep a payout over $10M. There will be no more than 9 football schools because Gonzaga will get a full share and OSU/WSU still demand 8 digits per year each… and 9 overall is not out of the question.

[@DayOneRob]

@@PCSPounder it may be a no for now, but once the PAC is able to finalize its 8 football members with Gonzaga, they will then have the ability to more accurately assess a TV deal and entice a Texas school.

[@clintlewis1715]

Actually, one could argue that Memphis and Tulane have a much better path to the playoff by remaining in the AAC. In the 10 years of the CFP, the AAC had the highest ranked G5 conference champion 6 times, CUSA had it 2 times, the MAC had it 1 time, and MWC 1 time.

[@ryansuter4424]

Is UCONN football better than University of Hawaii? What is funny is that UCONN is probably cheaper to bring in. Still UCONN basketball need to be part of this deal in same fashion.

[@STC987]

I would say UConn football is better. At least they have a real stadium and coach. Hawaii plays home games at a practice facility because their stadium was condemned I believe. Plus, with Hawaii you have to deal with poaching and exit fees. Not worth it.

[@sunsensational]

UConn has a brand and a Fiesta Bowl in last 12 years. So would say better plus no buyout $

[@ryansuter4424]

If there is a compromise that UConn guarantees a decent amount of basketball games against PaC 12 teams that would be ok.

[@Dario_Mazzella1975]

I'm from Fresno. Utah state and Colorado state don't belong. Should have persuaded UNLV, Gonzaga and Memphis

[@jamesportal14]

Grabbing more Mountain West is a terrible idea. It’s just Mountain West 2.0

[@2018josh]

better than getting the left overs, otherwise its Norther Illinois, or Texas State or UTEP.

[@jamesportal14]

@@2018josh if the Pac 12 can convince or even potentially paying exit fees they could get the best AAC schools. They could then draw in NM state, JMU, Liberty, Toledo and Miami Ohio by 2030 to make the best of the best G5 schools. And when ACC eventually collapse they could become the take the spot as the 4th best conference next to the Big 12. Watering down the conference to early will not bring in the best G5 talent

[@ryansuter4424]

OnlyTake UConn if they commit all their sports!! Don’t give in to UConn.

[@noelramirez1551]

You guys are f*cking stupid...is the PAC going to give UConn 30 million? UConn football is a negative 5 million look it up UConn loses money having a football team .....and with travel costs

[@kevinlewallen0]

Is this the only conference where you have to be a State school to be a member?

[@c.ryan.shryock]

Having two CSU schools basically means we will never see Cal/Stanford return to the Pac-12.

[@GodSonBlessed]

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[@arcostonian]

Adter 2027 the AAC exit fee drops significantly if memphis gives notice. They shoukd wait a bit, see the TV deal, then give notice. Memphis bball and football would improve the pac12 brand even more and would be very much welcome. I hope they are reconsidering their commitment to AAC.

[@swahilijs]

Originally the pac 2 should have combined with the mountain west. It could have been called the pacific west conference.

[@Patrick-sg7cm]

Oregon State and Washington State had to keep the PAC 12 name in order to keep their war chest.

[@westernciviccapital3075]

Still best scenario: If done right the new PAC will incorporate the 2 most football crazy regions in the country: the South and the Mountain west. Memphis and Tulane UTSA (or Texas State) and Rice Utah State and Wyoming South Florida and Southern Miss UConn and Georgia State 16

[@CodeMonkey76]

Why don't they just combine with the Mountain West and actually have 12(+) members?

[@roderickturner9806]

Money

[@princedarrioj5613]

I know it won't happen... But they should contact Big Sky and nab NAU to fill the Arizona void. That, and having the best track program in thr country wouldn't kill

[@c.ryan.shryock]

I would not be surprised if the MW fills its ranks with FBS programs (the four Dakotas, Montana/Montana State, NAU, EWU, etc.)

[@mathewblood5113]

The PAC 12 will be about as competitive as the ACC if not more. Who outside of FSU, Miami, Clemson, and UNC are really going to compete for the CFP? It makes sense they’d take a card from the ACC and go far east to find a football program to add. UCONN is definitely a nationally recognized brand! Let’s see what they can do with more resources and a better conference.

[@STC987]

UNC?? 😂

[@mathewblood5113]

@@STC987 Yes, UNC is one of the top schools in the ACC.

[@jacob-kf2gf]

@@STC987unc has a chance every year of making the playoffs.

[@noahtepera9776]

I don’t see GCU being a viable option, for one they would have to pay 2 exist fees, one to the WAC and one to the WCC. The cheaper and better basketball options in my opinion would be Gonzaga, San Francisco, San Diego and St. Mary’s

[@jimmarble1425]

GCU would be a good baseball fit.

[@FelixChavez-xx9bg]

Look for the next invite to be New Mexico State

[@STC987]

I will say that’s not happening.

[@Patrick-sg7cm]

Why not add New Mexico instead???

[@forceghostfabio3288]

Pacific Mountain Conference.

[@360garrenzo]

Mountain Pacific sounds better!!

[@Josh1888USU]

Gonzaga, SDSU, GCU, Utah State. Boise State, Colorado State; damn that would be a killer basketball league! Screw UNLV if they don't want in, just get New Mexico and add another great basketball school to an already stacked conference. You all are absolutely right, Gonzaga holds a lot of cards. I know we are not the most sexy, but we are glad to be in.

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[@michaelhopkins5087]

why is uconn in the conversation? their trash in football

[@ryansuter4424]

That’s why they need to at least bring in guaranteed basketball games.

[@Spewyspews]

Because they need at least 8football teams by 2026 to be considered a conference by the ncaa. Any after that is saving significant money having to pay for non conference opponent

[@bryanpbrowning8620]

For one basketball....2. last football team to remain a conference. Plus east coast viewers sponsors fans etc etc. the basketball team alone is worth it

[@STC987]

Every conference has bad teams.

[@gcnd9031]

The WAC12 lol It'll just be the MWC with a different name.

[@Bizzandsley]

Didn’t your team just lose to Northern Illinois at home? Talk about Wack.

[@bryanpbrowning8620]

Looking forward to Boise State kicking Notre Dame in the nuts next season for that comment

[@abrahammorrison6374]

Pac-12 can ask Sacramento State Hornets to join and give them $5,000,000 to upgrade their football and basketball venues and be ready by 2026. MW should add Montana State, Montana, NDSU and South Dakota State University and use this Pac 12 money to help them upgrade their football and basketball venues.

[@dpjacobs28]

The PAC will end up the MWC with the 2 left over PAC teams. I see no other way. It’s fun to speculate but it’s just speculation.

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