The LEAST Special Specialist - New Hunter x Hunter Nen Info: Specialization (6/6)

[@Cerdmasterjgcc]

I'm ngl I'm glad the general opinion is that morel is the goat, he was a huge point of enjoyment in chimera ant

[@gh0rochi363]

Morel was my guy the second I saw that pipe

[@theoverthinker348]

I love the guy too. That's why I was kind of peeved when I saw his proficiency ranking. We also recently got him printed out on a shirt for a friend who finally watched the series and loved Morel to bits.

[@snowman9631]

​@@gh0rochi363 he just absolutely big brains everyone he comes across. Dude is easily one of the smartest in the verse

[@comedygold6249]

12:06 doesn't explain why togashi only put alluka's name there, my own interpretation is that alluka was genuinely born with nanika already coexisting symbiotically with her, think of it as rika being yuta's cursed techniqe despite having her own soul, only nanika was literally born alongside her, with nanika having her own soul and also being alluka's specialist nen ability who follows her own ruleset, i think it's like kite's crazy slots that does its own thing when helping kite, but with nanika being her own person with her own soul, i think she can further develop her specialist nen ability by adding new sub abilities, like pakunoda's pistol ability and chrollo's bookmark probably being sub abilities developed later after they recognized their main specialist abilities

[@elcalabozodelandroide2]

2:57 guy did you ever read that part of kurapika's training where its master explicitely says you don't have to be a specialist to use an specialist like ability ? because to me that seems like an application of that 1% specialization from materialist users

[@theyoungknight.3119]

I reckon since the death of the user removes Chrollo’s ability the ability must still be connected to the user and therefor would still go by the users proficiency, This is supported by the fact that the restrictions imposed by the original user and the thoughts and opinions of the original user still affect the ability in Chrrollo’s possession, It is theoretically possible that Chrollo may even utilise the actual aura of the original user rather than his own (though more likely his aura just takes on the exact properties of the original user when he uses the ability)

[@theoverthinker348]

Eeeexcellent idea... I dig it! Though, as you say, his aura would still need to at least mimic theirs' which does give some credence to my analysis. I definitely don't think he uses theirs' otherwise he'd need to kidnap and carry them with him wherever he goes. Otherwise, their Nen would potentially need to cross whole continents for him to utilize it. I don't think even Meruem would be able to make that work efficiently.

[@gilgeaschwithkerk2344]

Well i think specialist is the Most important Part to make the System more real. It shows that the humans found nen and tried to make a system for it but like in science humans do not understand the natural world realy and need a way to descripe what the do Not understand.

[@theoverthinker348]

I keep replying to too many comments with "I have a video on that". Apologies about the incessant plugging. I touch on that in the "Is Specialization Broken" vid I referenced in this one. To make it brief: if Togashi wanted to present it as such, Specialization should not have been a core part of the diagram and influenced the category proficiency distribution. It should've been placed outside the diagram in some way, thereby establishing it as a definite unknown.

[@amomus6072]

​@@theoverthinker348 The nen categories symbolize that each hatsu which is part of a certain category has something in common. The only confirmed thing that specialization hatsus have in common is that their different from the rest.... so it is very well possible that the what they actually have in common is, as u mentioned, that their percentage of mastery in every other category is special

[@user-zz3sn8ky7z]

@amomus6072 This was pretty much confirmed by Morena stating that specialists can learn whichever proficiency they please, but specialisation still has to fall on the traditional diagram because Manipulation and Conjuration have 60% between eachother rather than 80%, implying a category between them

[@amomus6072]

@user-zz3sn8ky7z thats true

[@abbybackstabby]

This is more relevant to your other specialist video, however i think its worth considering that the Nen system and rules we are presented throughout the show is the in-universe "science" of nen. Aura and its use is a natural phenomenon thats been studied and explored by nen users, not been created by them. Therefore its very likely that the models we have in place for it are rather simplified and "lacking". Much like how Newtons laws are in our own world. They work well enough and give us and understanding of our universe. But they dont tell the whole story. This leaves room for all kinds of discrepencies and oddities that we see through-out the show. The Nen ring, its affinities and each users proficiensies in them are tools to help a nen-user develop their abilities. It seems unlikely to me that *any* of it is 100% understood and set in stone. And this is by no means a flaw of the writing or anything. It makes perfect sense for something like Nen to be far more complex than what has been discovered by its practitioners. My 10 cents atleast :P

[@slevinchannel7589]

0bviousness is obvious: Speicialits are normlly within the Chart. They use 80, 60, 40 Percent of the other types

[@b_delta9725]

imo the decision of pitou being a specialist was like a red herring, because we're led to believe she's a master manipulator that probably hides her true power but ironically, pouf is the special character out of the bunch, he gives people nen abilities, reads emotions, splits into several parts and hypnotizes people. for the whole arc pitou is so scary, but her abilities aren't something very special, only focused in protecting the king, while pouf's abilities are ambitious, aimed towards building an empire and knowing everything to ensure the king's victory

[@slevinchannel7589]

Nothing ironic about that. Manipulation is now revealed as THE tpye to 'manipulate a Body into crafting a Hatsu'. Meruem does it only to himself, Pouf only to others, Morena very-likely to both herself and others

[@b_delta9725]

@@slevinchannel7589 i was aimed to the fact that almost every specialist comes up with crazy abilities never seen before, while pouf is a lot more "special" than pitou and its just a difference of their inner purposes

[@KanderUdon]

The finale is finally here. I was hoping it would come out just as we got new chapters but it seems like we will have to wait a bit more.

[@DisProfundis]

Btw Togashi had also listed the proficiency levels of character midway between any two nen affinities- so for characters like Hanzo, Pika, Franklin, Machi, Killua, Kite, etc. You can also make a video on it since this was listed in Japanese on the raw pencil drawn chart, and many people didn't notice it.

[@theoverthinker348]

Oh, I'm fully aware. Do feel free to check out the New Nen Info playlist on the channel if you're interested in hearing my thoughts about the rest of the characters. No "lean" or "mid-point" characters were mentioned here since there are none, as it seems that a baseline Specialist must by definition be a pure Specialist.

[@pamelotms5867]

​@@theoverthinker348what about kurapica then? I personaly think that the guy who is not an specialist but has a similar ability to chrolos can be explained by him diping in specialism for that one ability. Since he is a manipulator which are one of the two closest kategorys to specialism.

[@theoverthinker348]

@@pamelotms5867 Kurapika's a Specialization mid-point Conjurer. He's still a Conjurer, just one that can turn into a special kind of Specialist for a time.

[@nothanksthough]

THE KING IS BACK

[@grimexecutioner]

I think the specialist abilities that steal abilities are like the same specialist "type" where they can access 100% of every category, but they need to meet certain conditions to access them (chrollo, kurapika, leol)

[@michaelbraxton137]

Great video as always

[@theoverthinker348]

Support very much appreciated, as always!

[@baratacom]

One possibility that both explains Shikaku (to an extent), Pitou and explains the workings of Chrollo's abilities is such: Specialists are, somehow, able to either do things outside the scope of the 5 categories or able to paradoxically make use of multiple categories that otherwise wouldn't interact or connect or, putting it in another way, specialists somehow are able to worry about WHAT their ability will do without having to worry about HOW it'll do it by worrying about efficiency and perhaps other similarly strange abilities could perhaps change their users into specialists given time (such as Netero or Morel) What this means for Chrollo and Pitou is that this allows them to use abilities from other specialties as "special" at 100% efficiency As for Shikaku....that means that the ability to steal others' nen techniques is indeed more in the realm of manipulation and his method of doing so is by manipulating the person striking his card into explaining to him how their ability works in minute detail not unlike how Ging analyzes and copies others' abilities which, if some of the fanbase's speculation/desires come to fruition and he's indeed not a specialist, will mean that the ability to mimic others' nen is not an inherently specialist trait and falls more in the person's knowledge, mastery, capabilities and insight

[@candiaa]

Love your videos. You do great analysis

[@theoverthinker348]

Thanks!

[@PauloHenrique-ok3yb]

5:35 hey, do you have the interview that togashi said this about her?

[@hcohic9884]

i believe chrollo prophency percentages still apply to his skill hunter ability since it was established that kurapika is a rare exception to the rule with his empror time ability at the cost of the severe pledge he made and what reinforces my theory is that chrollo mostly used manipulation and conjuration abilites and i cant imagine his taking phinks or uvo abilities and hitting as hard as them....the base physical strength matter + the nen reserves which is likea multiplier to your strength and proficiency is how much you reached your full ptentiel...ants for example are physically stronger than the average human without nen ..add to that great nen reserves because ants represent animals in the hxh universe and animals naturally and instinctually have a lot of determination and will power and mental strength which translates to a lot of nen in their tank... and animals are natural born fighters they dont need a lot of training which explain the high proficiency of the ants from the start .. this is why i think the chart doesnt apply on the ants and and other unhuman creatures from the dark continent like nanika which is the AI calamity since the chart was made by human masters who studied humans didnt study about the dark continent .... as for shikaku the only explanation for him being a manipulator is him being a '' nen '' manipulator . overall i enjoyed the serie and the analysis of nen in general the best magic system .

[@nenmaster5218]

Yeah Specialists do NOT naturally come equipped with Empreror-Time

[@noahhager1187]

my guess is (due to the water divination) that pitou's hatsu could have been a type of life manipulation, distinct from normal manipulation. all her abilities have to do with life or medicine in some way and the leaf in the divination wilted and disintegrated (ie leeching nen).

[@micahmcfadden8082]

Pakus ability is better all she has to do is be in contact while the mafia girl hit hisoka and nothing happened brfore he counter punched so im guessing it can be defended

[@villainreacts936]

manipulation is also the ability of manipulating people and his own nen, the one with the card gives me the feeling being able to manipulate his nen in card geometry and then using emission to trap the ability in the card ( similar as to how an emitter as meruem can obtain other people nen by trapping and then assimilate). nen is becoming more attuned to life force and mental energy put together; i'm not gonna call it mana cause it isn't, but my cultivation background of reading kinda gives me the feeling of unison of powers reaching a new level. i'd say nen is still incomplete to this day and will probably be updated further when it matures.

[@slevinchannel7589]

I agree, though wonder why no sentence ver starts big with you. You try on purpoe to trigger ocd-havers? But yeah, Meruem's Type-Reveal imedietly madeclerr 'Its manipuationn. He manipulates his own Body to make it craft a Hatsu. Probably and almost-certainly what Pouf and mOrena do'

[@villainreacts936]

@@slevinchannel7589 I kinda apologize but unfortunately i write a lot without pc, so when i write on pc all text kinda looks the same and i forget to put capital letters ahah.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@villainreacts936 No problem, thats what the edit-button is for H-ck, your rereply already 'performs better' so to speak compared to soe others who once got silar words from me and told me to go to h-ll XD I just hope you edit some more often AND i hope you tell me if you ever made a Hatsu for yourself

[@villainreacts936]

@@slevinchannel7589 I kinda liked the basics of Nen a lot, so i had the idea of making a "suit" or a futuristic armor which increased and helped a lot with those and their control; bringing the basics to a maximum. More than a specific power i liked the idea of simply training Nen super effectively using Ken/ En/ and many of those talked about. I also wished powers in the past, but too many options appeared and i had a panic attack in choosing. So a conjurer based or a specialist developed tecnique is what i ended up with, but i essentially created many of them in the past years, so many i couldn't choose. I am a cook in italy so going around with menchi and gourmet hunter is something i thought of, similar to the Toriko manga too.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@villainreacts936 A mediaval Suit or a Machine? Cause remember: Conjuration, Transmutation and PARTS-of-Manipulation need Image-Training. Theres a reason we only see Tsubone and one other Guy conjure complex Machines

[@rng_jr1015]

Please do more, we are thirsty for more HxH

[@slevinchannel7589]

Then try 'New World Review' and 'Rion Studio', not a Guy who still seriously gets THIS MUCH wrog about Nen

[@theoverthinker348]

You and me both.

[@KiranThapa-z8c]

I think Pitou would be very skilled in emission As u explained, almost all her Hatsu could be explained using emission and her EN?! (That force field out of nen) has the biggest range of basically every other than meruem so that screams emission to me

[@theoverthinker348]

Good point. While this is arguable, since En is a combination of Ren and Ten it's implied that it's meant to be a generic Nen skill and thus not something that one's category should have a lot of influence over. People have been described as either "having talent" for it or not. As a Manipulator, Pouf would've had an 80% proficiency in Emission, yet his En was significantly smaller than Pitou's. This while Youpi basically couldn't even do it. On the other hand, the best En feat from a human is indeed from an Emitter (i.e. Zeno), if we don't count Hatsu (everything Kortopi copies counts as an extension of his En).

[@UpperNileGuy]

Its also up in the air if nen works exactly the same for the royal ants as it does for humans ​@@theoverthinker348

[@chad63]

is illumis agenda on joining the troupe to be that he wants chrollo to hunt down alluka and killua to steal allukas power (if its even possible) of course after helping the troupe hunt hisoka and voyage on the dark continent that must be his payment because it seems so sudden for illumi to join the troupe out of nowhere

[@سلمانقتل]

0:23 😮 I didn’t know that😂😂😂

[@theoverthinker348]

Groundbreaking stuff, right? Only grade A journalism here on the Overthinker.

[@سلمانقتل]

@@theoverthinker348 Brother you’re very smart I’m very dumb😭😭

[@theoverthinker348]

@@سلمانقتل Nah dude, you good. Thanks for the kind words though!

[@drsh1711]

The least special specialist is definitely Pakunoda. Pitou atleast utilizes multiple nen affinities in different ratios like Conjuration, Manipulation and Enhancement which specialist are known to do. But everything Paku does can be acheived with pure emission. Might as well have made her an Emitter. Though Togashi likely gave memory type powers to emitters later

[@solojun27]

Neon's ability could be a conjurer ability right? Since you just conjure a nen beast and its ability is to predict the future? Or m I understanding this completely wrong

[@Seloliva1015]

Since mind reading, and Hatsu copying are no longer "specialist only effects", maybee predicting the future could be done some other way and there are no "specialist only effects". But then I would like to know what makes specialists special... maybe the distribution of affinities, or maybe they tend to have weird abilities at least (or abilities by birth without having to work on them)

[@solojun27]

@@Seloliva1015 Kurapikas Emperor Time turns him into a specialist, and he is able to use all the affinities. Is this a general specialist thing or just his ability? So many questions

[@theoverthinker348]

@@solojun27 Too many. To answer your Lovely Ghost Writer question: I'm not sure. If conjurers are able to simply produce Specialist-like effects via their conjured entities the uniqueness, which defines Specialization as a category, is lost. I may go over this in a video in the future. Emperor Time seems to make Kurapika in a special kind of Specialist. While he gets a power-boost which maximizes his "power" and "accuracy" in all other categories, his overall level-cap remains as it would for a Conjurer. I've touched on this a few times, but have yet to go into it in detail. I definitely will though.

[@solojun27]

@@theoverthinker348 This is the explanation i found on the wiki: Emperor Time: A form activated once Kurapika's eyes turn scarlet. While in this state, Kurapika has full mastery of all five categories of Nen usage, rather than just being solely able to fully master Conjurer skills. It says that he is able to use the other affinities to the max, which contradicts what you said about his level-cap being the same as a conjurer

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

No, because conjures have a rule that they can’t create anything that’s impossible, predicating, and seeing futures is impossible, so making her a specialist. But the ghost could be a conjuring just that the mind reading is special ability

[@slevinchannel7589]

The Question "WHAT is Special about Pitous Specialist-Hatsu" may very well lead directly to Nen-Knowledge! Seriously, are Specialists just copying or are they a Mutation of the Other Types? I theorized long before the Keyword is 'Layerring' and invented words like 'spcial-conjuring' for for-example Chrollo sumoning a Book. Im convinced that's no Conjuration

[@slevinchannel7589]

@orvillewright9246 Dont wanna reveal too much but it basically combines Benjamin Baton, Hide&Seek and some other Stuff in a really smart way What about you. What type would you be and what abilities do you fancy?

[@kevingriffith6011]

The only way I could see Manipulation creating an ability duplication effect would be for them to fake it. Essentially manipulating the nen-user he is 'copying' into using their ability while the manipulator's cards act as a conduit for that ability to be used remotely (Which might be an emission ability?). The stipulation there, of course, would be that the Nen-user he is copying would have to still be alive, else there'd be nobody to manipulate... however such an ability would be exceptionally efficient for the manipulator, since the one being manipulated is paying the cost for the manipulator, assuming that the cost of performing this manipulation itself isn't too high.

[@theoverthinker348]

@@kevingriffith6011 I like your idea. I'm not sure whether that was the case with Shikaku though, considering it was more implied the hatsu is stored in the card for future use.

[@user-zz3sn8ky7z]

I mean, manipulation can explicitly manipulate aura and aura effects themselves, right? As far as I understand that's the crux of Morels ability to make puppets. It's not that much of a stretch to imagine manipulators being able to manipulate aura of others as well So what I think is happening is that Shikaku takes the already manifested instance of hatsu and just stores it in his card to then redirect it, as opposed to Leon or Chrollo who explicitly get to produce their own copies of the effect instead.

[@guilhermesilva-xg7gy]

For a long time specialization was my least favorite category of nen mostly because of the many misconceptions surrounding it. What made nen special wasnt its complexity but the balance within the power system and specialization should not be the exception. In my re-reading I notice that every time specialization is said to be an outer category was in terms of training to other nen users. That said i do believe that specialization follows the natural balance of 80 80 60 60 40 but by its unique nature this affinities are random. Theres also the misinformation of it being a rare category which its said nowere in the manga, thats why i think specialization comes from specialized not special.

[@slevinchannel7589]

Misconcpetions exist indeed NO Specialist-Ability ever has been Directly Harmful. Completly overlooked Nen-Rule, right there, seeing how theres no way thats mere Concidence!

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

I think the misconception comes from the fact that it’s rare for non specialist to become specialist, and people took that as in thinking specialist are rare

[@joevollbach4099]

Personally, i think pitou emits the weird clown puppeteers since non-nen users can't see them, as they probably would have reacted badly to seeing an army of clown monsters puppeteering their military and leader. Nurse blithe may be a conjuration thing since it doesn't fully separate from pitous tail, but im not sure. But maybe it is a specialization thing that makes it not completely follow the traditional nen architypes or something. Edit: it was also stated that gon couldn't see the clown pupeteering kites body because he was still in a state of zetsu because of knuckles hatsu.

[@slevinchannel7589]

NO Specialist-Ability ever has been Directly Harmful. Completly overlooked Nen-Rule, right there, seeing how theres no way thats mere Concidence!

[@vao519]

i mean Coldcept Captrues and manipulates the ability.

[@peshomighty5051]

Shikaku's love of magician Girl fanart gave him the power to play a card game as a hatsu. I play a minion cards I play a spell card. Coldcept somehow capturing a skill Hmm maybe he use teleportation to teleport the attack or spell into his mind palace. Then he shoots it out later. Emission makes more sense than manipulation. I'm a fan of game based powers? Like in bofuri.Kanade. Akashic Records. Grants a random skill to the user per day. Magic Record records a spell(use twice the mana to save one of your spells in a book. Then the cast is instant)

[@bandarsalh1338]

If you analyse it, all of pitou's abilities seem to be a combination of Conjuration, manipulation and enhancement First conjure the puppet, then manipulate the puppet to enhance either fighting power or healing factor of the target

[@slevinchannel7589]

Exactly, which is odd. Maybe its PURE Specilization and this all says a lot about the Type. The Question "WHAT is so Speciaaaal about Pitous Specialist-Hatsu" may very well elad directly to Nen-Knowledge. Seriously, are Specialists just copying or are they a Mutation of the Other Types

[@NoteCat540]

Woah he's back. The only hxh youtuber I watch, I love your videos.

[@theoverthinker348]

The only Black Cleaver I appreciate. Thanks dude!

[@MrPeto2005]

Wait, where is Kurapika?

[@Nesto_]

He’s a Conjurer-Specialist. The Conjurer part comes first so that’s what he’s generally treated as, similar to how Killua is a Transmuter-Enhancer.

[@furiousdestroyah9999]

Reject Hogyoku, obtain cute imouto

[@slevinchannel7589]

0:00-1:05: DUDE. Youve been told multiple times that's your worst vieo and makes zero sense and is utterly debunked by Emperor-Time just casually-existing. Agaiin: Specialists arre noraml part of the Effieicnecy-Chart. They use 80%, 60% and 40% of the other Types. It's obvious

[@orvillewright9246]

Could that card guy be specialist lean?

[@orvillewright9246]

@@slevinchannel7589 Oh. Okay.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@orvillewright9246 Fyi, i'm always on the lookout for people willing to chat a good Bit aout Nen

[@orvillewright9246]

@@slevinchannel7589 okay.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@orvillewright9246 Ever made-up a fan-made Hatsu?

[@orvillewright9246]

@@slevinchannel7589 Have you ever made up a fan made hatsu?

[@albino478gaming5]

Honestly, i think using another's nen ability is more based in manipulation than specialisation. Think about it. All it would theoratically entail is observing the process the enemy's nen goes through to become said ability, and manipulate your own in the same way. While a lot harder in prctice and involving emission a lot of the time, that is the fundementals of how anyone would acquire such an ability. A specialist like Chrollo essentially got a cheat code for it with a fuck you on the side for his victim(ie being unable to use it while he has their ability).

[@slevinchannel7589]

No. What Togashi VERY BLATANTLY wanted to say with declaring somonee Manipulator and then show him 3 Seconds later SEAIG (but 'stealing aka using-himself) an ABility is that Specialization is only Type that can do it

[@deazee2288]

Neon's ability as a specialist is well and all until Palm throws a wrench in the conclusion, Palm is an enhancer yet she has clairvoyance What's up with that

[@theoverthinker348]

Oh, don't get me started on that... I'm resisting my urge to write up an essay, since I've already spoken on the topic. Feel free to check out the "8 Nonsensical Nen Abilities" video when you find the time. There I talk about this exact issue in depth. I also touch on it in the New Nen Info Enhancer video.

[@Yonkage-ik5qb]

It's not the same ability. Palm cannot see future events, just things outside her natural range of sight. Which, if you think about it, basically is just enhancing her vision so she has a very long invisible periscope to auto-tracks targets. Also, at first that ability wasn't necessarily nen. It was a blood-powered crystal ball that seemed to be an actual object, something Palm used not conjured. Not everything in the HxH universe that is supernatural is explained by nen. There's also just magical stuff lying around.

[@deazee2288]

@@theoverthinker348 to me it feels like mysticism exists in HxH outside of the Nen power system, to me it's akin to how the chimera ants use Zetsu pre-receiving Nen because most of them are based on predatory animals who extinctively conceal their presence