The LEAST UNDERSTOOD Style of Bowling

[@nordattack]

I am a Classic 1940's Style Full Roller. My youtube channel is devoted to the Classic Full Roller style. It is great to see another channel exploring this lost art. I welcome you to visit my channel to see Full Roller bowling in action with many types of balls using different Full Roller layouts. I also have some videos there showing some of the greatest Full Rollers of all time such as Billy Hardwick and Ned Day in action. I also have a video of the greatest and most powerful modern Full Roller, Dave Ewald. I look forward to more videos from you on the Full Roller style.

[@nothumbbowler1802]

Years ago I read a bowling book, I think it was Mike Aulby's and I remember the line, "full roller release is a dinosaur." Bowling is full of various misconceptions and people doing things because that's the way it's done. I don't think the pins know if it's a full roller release or not.

[@fookerbowls9050]

in a sense aulby isn't wrong! because if you watch my second video, i myself mention that the full roller in bowling does limit what a bowler can do on the lanes. and given the way the game has developed over the years, it can be a bit of a curse, though as smalls has proven, it is possible to make it work!

[@isaysee]

Full Roller is exactly like a Spiral Pass in football .. It's ESSENTIALLY that simple .

[@isaysee]

The difference between a high semi roller & a full roller is pretty minor .. For a full roller with GOOD speed control - the sky is the limit .

[@turtlejeremy6980]

​@@isayseeThat's exactly what I am. High rev full roller with really good speed control. Difference is, I don't release like a full roller, I get really behind it and have negative tilt, kinda like AJ Johnson's release.

[@isaysee]

@@turtlejeremy6980 You probably track on [or very very close] to the middle finger .. If so you're hitting on a line behind the thumb hole as the ball out paces your lift / follow thru .. .. Not really a big problem if you're using Full Roller drill pattern lay outs .to keep ball from flaring over the thumb hole

[@jsesqa874]

The full roller was beginning to disappear in the 1960's. I believe BowlingOldies uploaded a video of a Pro Bowlers's Tour telecast where Billy Welu said that none of the bowlers on that telecaster used a full roller. There's no wrong way to bowl.

[@Tcrror]

Btw, you have eight subscribers, how did I get recommended this? I'm not complaining, this was a cool video. Hope you get more success.

[@fookerbowls9050]

i am none the wiser, either! especially since i don't even actively share my videos. i logged in to this account today, and was shocked myself to see this much engagement! but anyway thank you for your kind words, i'll keep making videos on the sport i love. hopefully more frequently!

[@chihamago5845]

My bowling style is similar to you , it is difficult to see anyone bowl in this form on KZbin , happy to see you and this video👍

[@jdracer111]

Coaches must not like the down and in approach to bowling. But it's the easiest most accurate way to bowl.

[@junebugcomputer]

It’s all about layout for full rollers. I have two on my Friday night team. The pin is close to the thumb. Also there is another KZbin channel with a gentleman named Steve who is a full roller.

[@nathandarosa6956]

I saw someone bowl exactly like this during league. I was like "wha-how???"

[@fookerbowls9050]

the ball roll would probably come across as quite weird, yeah? because that's the reaction i got from my peers and coaches as well!

[@nathandarosa6956]

@@fookerbowls9050 Oh yeah lol, its pretty cool how it looks like your almost rolling the ball by closing your hands.

[@Nuke83]

I was a full roller when i first started bowling at 8, but that's because the ball was heavy. Eventually I got strong enough to grip the ball porperly and morphed into a tweener.

[@fookerbowls9050]

Hey bowling fans, In view of the discussion revolving around whether Tom Smallwood is a full-roller, I am going to include in my next video a segment analysing Smalls' game in as much detail as I can, through which I can hopefully answer the question "is Smalls REALLY a full-roller?" thoroughly enough to eliminate most reasonable doubt about his play style, and maybe even explain why his game might very well be the rarest of the rare in the sport of bowling. I'm gonna be ramping up my production process, in order to get this next video done as soon as possible. Stay tuned!

[@johnnierobles2304]

I think when I was throwing the ball well I pretty much look like a Tom Smalls. After tearing my bicep I have not yet been able to return to that style. And boy do I struggle with the pendulum arm swinging. Through many attempts I could never seem to find my hand underneath the ball get to the flat spot and my arm swing is literally bent from the time it passes my hip till I get back to letting the ball go. It is literally bent at the release points with my hand on the top side of the ball and not nearly or remotely close to underneath. So disappointed

[@tonysanta3497]

Tom Smallwood is the only person on the modern Tour that has been sucessful with that style.

[@joepic85]

He is not a full roller

[@carllmack2287]

@@joepic85 Ah but he is. If you get the chance look at his ball layouts closely and the track lines on his ball. He rolls directly between the fingers and thumb rolling over the thumb hole at times. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f529doimaLN6ea8

[@Flightoz]

@@carllmack2287 Ah but he is not. watch this video by Radical Bowling which he is a staffer for. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmrJh5iwmqucY8k&ab_channel=RadicalBowling

[@fookerbowls9050]

i think the reason mo says he isn't a 'true' full-roller is because he uses an off-set half thumb, meaning his layouts are not 'entirely' full-roller. though it is also true that he rolls in between fingers and thumb holes. the most accurate way to see if one is a full-roller is by looking at the ball tracks of their spare balls, as there are typically no mass biases and the release is as flat as possible. the tracks on my old spare ball are what convinced my ball driller to do full roller layouts for me.

[@Flightoz]

@@fookerbowls9050 the only reason the track goes in between the finger and thumb for Smallwood is because of the offset thumb. If his thumb hole was normal the track wouldn't. Definition of a full roller is zero degrees of title which Smallwood doesn't have. He has the same tilt as a normal release

[@Mista808]

I like this guys voice. I'm fascinated by it and could listen to him talk for hours.

[@fookerbowls9050]

thank you!

[@slydewayz84]

Not a full roller, that's a drill pattern for old people... Huck the ball down the middle, low speed, MINIMAL revs, stays in pocket and still strikes.

[@marchendrickson2382]

Earl Anthony made it work. And he's widely regarded (deservedly so) as the best ever. Took Walter Ray twice as many tournaments to equal Anthony's wins, and that doesn't consider his record number of 2nd place finishes

[@SoCalHapa]

EA didn't throw a full roller....

[@gregamerson9172]

@@SoCalHapa he sure didnt SMH, some people just love to spout BS👍👍

[@paulmanozzi4596]

Full roller as well, not many out there, and most don't seem to avg real well.... I find I carry far better than others. In other words I carry more non perfect pocket hits

[@aw-stk]

If your pin was beside your ring finger you would not track like that, most bowling balls are decent now days. Having that kind of track plus the heat of your hand will cause very inconsistent ball reaction once your ball soaks up oil.

[@fookerbowls9050]

i have actually thrown conventional layouts with my pin close to the ring finger. still tracks that way! the balls i use are not horribly outdated, either, though they're definitely not the latest and greatest (no money for that). and if you watch my second video i do mention that my conventional balls do behave pretty erratically! a good part of the inconsistency now having been taken out by converting purely to a full-roller layout.

[@iceman5117]

I have a mild drilled dv8 marauder mutiny with the pin next to my pinky, it still tracks normally

[@thomaschippie9057]

Used a full roller as a kid, still do.

[@DtgSlayer]

I bowl two styles of bowling that is Curving Underhand shot and Suitcase Underhand Shot, a lot of us have Unique styles of Bowling including myself I can say most of the way I bowl has been shown in this video but I'm not a 2 hander.

[@martywatson6311]

You need to explain wrist position differences.

[@fookerbowls9050]

You've just given me the idea for my next film! Though do be prepared to see a lot of my left hand instead of my right, since those variations apply mostly to conventional releases. Which only my left hand can throw.

[@adamatkins1466]

It went away because it not an effective way to score in today’s modern game. The only anomaly you can argue is Tom Smallwood. Even then that is splitting hairs consider Smallwood has axis tilt which doesn’t qualify him as a full roller technically.

[@danielhady3021]

When I bowled in league yrs ago I ended up being a full roller for most shots.

[@TheKingjaycee]

If this is any indication what this channel will be like, then Ill get down with the Fook!Good stuff!.....

[@sootierpluto]

oh yah i do this sometimes. I'm a two hander. i actually like to fool around with it. I've perfected many different two handed throws, full roller, back-up, I've even had reversed hook where it's got a slanted back spin on it. fun stuff!!!!

[@fookerbowls9050]

i've experimented a fair bit myself! should probably film myself goofing off on the lanes one time. with both hands, too!

[@sootierpluto]

@@fookerbowls9050 oh yeah for sure!!!! also since i made this original comment I've come up with another fun way to to two hand. i kind of got the inspiration from watching my friends in high school do the discus throw for track. the like movement at the final turn and release is what I tried to emulate with my ball two handing. if you can kind of imagine how it looked I'm sure u can pull it off too!!!!!!

[@tylerstrain907]

No its because you're getting your hand all the around the ball so much it gives it side rotation my friend does it, you can fix it by keeping your hand behind the ball

[@elipollard3309]

This is my style too! Bowled a 254 using a right handed ball. I’m left handed!

[@fookerbowls9050]

nice! there are times when unconventional combinations like these work brilliantly. i hit 286 using a conventionally drilled ball! still my highest score so far

[@curtis4429]

im a two handed full roller and whenever i tell people that, there always so mind blown lol

[@Tcrror]

they're*, just trying to help!

[@wolfpackgaming8206]

Im the same as you and have been told by many people to stop. I just tell them when they bowl an 866 series to come talk to me about switching styles

[@FearTheWeird300]

Most two handlers do naturally. The thumb normally helps create tilt.

[@fookerbowls9050]

i full-roll when i play two-handed for fun, too! to the bewilderment of my peers.

[@fishgutz4272]

My ball rolls just to the right of my middle finger and thumb holes. When I screw up the release a bit I can here it rolling partly over the thumb hole. 😄😁😆

[@expfighter5112]

i have always thrown from the right to the left into the 1-3 pocket, i get the same popping of the thumb hole and the womp womp womp as well

[@fishgutz4272]

@@expfighter5112 I'm lefty. Not a fast roller. But enough revs that balls like the Proton Physix are too strong for me on house shots. My spare ball and Fast Pitch tend to roll over the edge of my thumb.

[@fookerbowls9050]

that's technically still a conventional release because the ball is still rolling end over end, the only difference being close to zero axis tilt causing the ball to roll over exactly where the leverage was applied when releasing the ball, which are where the layout holes are. a bit more axis tilt or rotation should take your tracks away from the thumb hole!

[@fishgutz4272]

@@fookerbowls9050 I need to break decades of release habit. Despite everything, my average is climbing. At 60, some habits can be harder to break. Working on more consistent balance too. This past Saturday, two games come down to me. One, I needed at least 2 strikes in the 10th. Got 2 physics 9. The second, I needed a spare and good count. For 9 spare strike. So getting better under pressure. 😀😃😄😁 Re axis, I seem to get a little more tilt with my Electrify Hybrid and Astro Physix. They are drilled the same. Same pin location.

[@fookerbowls9050]

old habits do die hard. i suffered heavily adding a bit more power to my game a good 7 years into the sport, as it took me dumping everything that was already deeply ingrained into my muscle memory. was worth the pain, though as i went from forcing a ball to hook by elbowing the nuts off it while going extremely slow to getting the same or more revs and far more speed with a lot less muscling after about 4 months of banging on the wall. balance comes mostly from footwork and timing to keep our centre of gravity constant. slowly work on feeling how your body is moving at every stage of the approach and you'll get a good idea what you need to do! subtle weight and mass bias differences can make the ball feel slightly different despite identical layouts and grips, which may subtly affect wrist position at release point. i've had teammates who threw two balls entirely differently despite their grips and layouts being entirely the same, to the befuddlement of even our coach at the time! well done in the clutch! which is something i need to work on myself. my mental strength in crunch time has been failing me more often in recent years!

[@justsom3k1dbowling91]

so just more axis tilt? a lot of people can adjust their wrist to do this as well. the thing is, they get 400+ rpms so doing this would cause it to pick up waaaay too much on the dry and be almost impossible to bowl with except maybe on longer patterns.

[@fookerbowls9050]

doesn't really work, at least for someone like me! the way i full-roll doesn't really allow for variations in wrist position without the ball going all sorts of whack. though it might be a good idea for me to try it, film it, and let everyone have a look at what happens!

[@oldsnwbrdr]

You might not be able to play 7th arrow with a full roller but unless you are a touring pro who cares? A couple of years ago I bowled in a league with a full roller who shot 300 in back to back weeks and his ball hit like a truck. No reason to change, I think the predictability of a full roller ball roll and reactive balls would make for a very effective combination.

[@fookerbowls9050]

i've played on lane conditions on which i had to! wasn't pretty, of course. though usually i just try not to get there! since i tend to be able to stick to the same line for longer than my peers on the same lanes. and yes, playing on matched-up lanes with the predictable ball movement i get from my full roller layout balls can feel pretty damn sweet!

[@stankytrashbag]

a full roller video not talking about Tom smallwood is weird to me

[@fookerbowls9050]

i was leaving him for my second video XD

[@stankytrashbag]

@@fookerbowls9050 that makes sense lmao, you just can't talk about full roll without talking about the only person to won on tv using it(I think he is atleast)

[@fookerbowls9050]

@@stankytrashbag long ago legends like earl anthony and billy hardwick dominated the sport throwing full roller back in the day. in the modern age yes, only smalls has had tv success as a full roller!

[@q1uma]

Not enough no thumb one handers like Tom Daugherty, i had 2 on my high school team and it gives you the power of 2 handing but the speed of one handing

[@ETconehome]

Less adaptability in back swing/release IMO. Short back swing and very difficult to not loft the ball at the foul line. But like anything, just practice more

[@q1uma]

@@ETconehome I agree, it’s a difficult style, you need serious hand strength as well, but I’m surprised to not see hardly any pros with the style.

[@fookerbowls9050]

indeed takes very strong arms to maintain a full wrist cup of a 15-pound ball from pushaway to release! i for one can't do that. at least not for long. without breaking something.

[@sriley064]

And the accuracy of a storm trooper on average,good luck bro

[@masterchief247]

Tom Smallwood is a PBA player who throws a full roller. Very successful at it.

[@coolietoolie]

Either talk, or play music. So many posting videos seem to think that putting music behind the talking adds to their video. Most of the time it doesn't enhance it at all. Especially when the volume of the music is louder than the talking. If you feel you need to add music, put it in faintly only.

[@theamflitebowler]

Full Roller is common back in the old days of bowling but now it has change, Shannon Pluhowsky she's a full roller

[@fookerbowls9050]

yeah there have been more full rollers back in the day. shannon pluhowsky is arguably a more special case, cos as far as i know she's in between full roller and conventional. at least when usbc did a video on her they didn't mention outright if she's a full roller, and i don't think she's talked about it in public before. what is true is that her ball roll looks a lot different from what we're normally used to seeing!

[@joehoenig7596]

@@fookerbowls9050 I've mentioned to Shannon that one of the commentators called her release a full roller, and she immediately informed me that she is not. Your explanation that she is between conventional and full roller, might shed light on this discrepancy.

[@fookerbowls9050]

@@joehoenig7596 yes shannon pluhowsky is a bit of an anomaly. the standard definition of a full roller is that the ball rolls in between the grip holes, covering the entire circumference of the ball, and there is zero axis tilt. the debate among many in the community is whether a bowler has to meet either or all of the criteria to count as a full roller. this applies to tom smallwood, too. randy calls him a full roller, mo pinel doesn't, i call him a full roller, many comments on my videos say he's not. i'd have to take a far closer look at shannon's game than is possible now to properly define her game, but i'm guessing she also happens to meet only one of those criteria, which leaves it open for individual interpretation as to whether her game is full roller or not

[@Jesusfanatic0711]

Not rare or unique…. This is what they did in the 80s and before… the suitcase release was the most common release known to most bowlers. The reason it’s not used anymore because of core shapes and cover stocks that promote high flare and a full roller or suitcase release with the thumb and fingers coming out at the exact same time is a weaker release and can cause a load of deflection or like tom Smallwood has seen sometimes is undesired landing on the thumb hole and ball bounces.

[@judweber3338]

Ya it’s definitely the least understood style, I still don’t know how you do that

[@gregamerson9172]

If the full roller was so damn good all the pros would be doing it. Tom smallwood is the only one that throws it that I'm aware of n he only has 3 titles. You are evidently a legend in yr OWN mind😤😤😤

[@fookerbowls9050]

you might want to see at least the titles of the other videos on my channel to know your anger is baseless and uncalled for

[@gregamerson9172]

@@fookerbowls9050 not mad bout anything. Only pointing out the full roller is long out dated. Why make a vid on something no one uses or cares about. Before you go off on my ass, I've averaged over 200 since the late 70s. While I dont KNOW everything I have considerable experience. I just didnt like the way this video was presented that's all

[@fookerbowls9050]

@@gregamerson9172 well, here you are caring about it and a video i made about it, so thank you for your engagement!

[@greggower8899]

Explain how to accomplish both styles please. Thanks.

[@louiscsanko3673]

WOW!! Did Not Know DUKE used a Full Roller. I tried rolling a ball i had since 1986 and it tracked as a full roller. The ball i was using at that time was a Danger Zone which Tracked on the left of the thumb and.finger holes? I'm assuming it's the much more complex weight blocks that cause the ball to Roll much different than the pancake weightblocked old school urethane ball. Thanks for putting out these interesting videos. Science can explain 95% of the How, what, and wheres..The remaining 5% is the [" Luck"] or other Phenomenon.

[@fookerbowls9050]

i'm guessing your're referring to norm duke but nope, norm duke doesn't throw full roller. he normally doesn't use rubber inserts for his finger holes so it's harder to tell but he throws conventional, just with little to no axis tilt so his oil tracks run quite close to his grip holes but never cut across them. yes cores and coverstocks do have some impact on how the ball rolls down the lane, though it normally doesn't affect the general roll direction. when i threw conventionally drilled modern reactive balls my oil tracks cut straight through my thumb hole, but when i did the exact same thing using my also conventionally drilled plastic core-less spare ball (when i still used one) it tracked 100% full roller. that was what finally convinced by regular pro shop boss to drill me a full roller layout

[@louiscsanko3673]

@@fookerbowls9050 Thankyou. Sorry I responded back so late.

[@bowlingxp8345]

Nice idea to analyse this release, but i think you should put in the time to make some subtitles, it will help a lot.

[@fookerbowls9050]

I probably should! Since I already have the subs in the form of my script. Shall do that going forward!

[@bowlingxp8345]

@@fookerbowls9050 great, go for it !

[@marco168888]

Just a typical Stroker style shot? That’s how I bowl

[@Tcrror]

Belmonte would still be a monster even if he bowled one handed, and it's not like bowling with two hands makes anything easier. I couldn't do it, but I accept people who can. They're the same as one handed bowlers, anyway, because it's one hand at release.

[@expfighter5112]

Belmonte is a douchebag with a capital D! bottle cracking tard

[@geordiehalma7323]

@@expfighter5112 YOU BOTTLE BITCH!

[@Tcrror]

@@expfighter5112 ..he's one of the nicest people on tour, LMFAO. Also, nice job with the "tard" line. You're truly an intellectual.

[@fookerbowls9050]

he has thrown one handed for fun. still a beast! though he'd need to drastically change his footwork and timing to make one handed bowling work for him. the same way long-time one handers would struggle to replicate how the two handers do it! though i agree on the one hand at release part, because at least for me, there is no real difference in me throwing with one hand or both when i bowl lefty at the point of release. footwork and timing still poles apart, of course! and to be honest throwing two handed is actually more physically demanding, because of all the extreme and violent motions and weight transfers.

[@sriley064]

@@expfighter5112 Lol holy shit a Nappy Rash fan

[@bengoose2031]

Tom Smallwood comes mind.

[@dhec10701p]

I thought you're talking about UFO spinner before I clicked in

[@fookerbowls9050]

oh the spinner is actually studied quite carefully in my part of the world (asia - i live in singapore) because it was a wildly popular bowling style in asia from probably the 80s onwards. you could even say that was the default bowling style over here back then! today in places like singapore which tend to follow international conventions in terms of bowling, the spinner is a dying breed, but in place like taiwan there are still many young spinners, several of them in their national teams! which is why the spinner style can still be seen in international tournaments.

[@dhec10701p]

@@fookerbowls9050 As a Taiwanese myself I couldn't agree more ! I also bowled spinner that's why I clicked xd

[@fookerbowls9050]

ahh no wonder! then i guess you may have watched 纪妹in滚滚诸公? hell of a good spinner! cute, too (oops)! i'd love to go bowl in taiwan one day! though...yeah, can't do that for the time being. and bringing my bowling gear over would be...challenging! XD

[@fookerbowls9050]

oh and the coaching course i attended does touch on the spinner style! nothing about the full roller, though. which is also partly why i want to talk about it!

[@dhec10701p]

@@fookerbowls9050 滾滾諸公 is the channel that got me started on bowling. Great content ! If you do come to Taiwan you’ll be amazed how many people are spinning that thing. Keep up the good work man good bowling content is hard to come by and I’m grateful that people are putting stuff together for the bowling crowd. Good luck!

[@theamflitebowler]

Full roller my favorite release!

[@douglasbuck8986]

Full roller here - used Dark Web last night for 758 ...................

[@tomnassar5884]

That was a plugged ball! What happened; was it drilled wrong for the full roller?

[@fookerbowls9050]

ball was second-hand (friend sold it to me for cheap; he throws conventional) so i had to patch it and re-drill to a full roller layout when i took it over

[@Mista808]

Despite having a 205 average in leagues and bowling my whole life I've always had issues with the release. Instead of my thumb coming out first and getting the lift with my middle and ring finger I tend to over turn the ball and all 3 fingers come out at almost the exact same time. However.. I saw a video of me bowling in slow motion and a friend was like "you're over turning the ball" and at first I didn't know what he meant. I've always bowled like that and have always been a good bowler despite bowling like that. But because of him making me feel like I'm not bowling properly I've been trying to release the ball properly and it's only been causing my scores to drop. It's at the point where I'm now starting to transition into a 2handed bowler. Is there a such thing as a 2 handed bowler that is STILL considered a Full Roller? I feel like the only way a person can be a "full roller" is if they use their thumb. Am I right that if the thumb is removed it's almost impossible to have the tracks go between the fingers/thumb holes?

[@fookerbowls9050]

yeah i've had problems getting the ball off my hand most of my bowling "career" (since i've never actually done it for a living). even now i basically mangle my thumb every time i bowl, especially after i go on hiatus for extended periods of time. it's possible to score well while having habits others would consider undesirable, which was basically me in the local version of high school, as i had the slowest ball speed and a pretty whack ball roll but one of the higher averages in my mens' team at the time. it's also possible to hit a wall when trying to change those habits, as i had experienced when modifying my footwork and timing. even changing ball weight can bring about some wall-hitting, especially if the change is upwards. i lost a good 30 pins in average while i was training those things, then when i finally had them down in my muscle memory i bounced a good 20 pins above where i was before i started training those things. one way to work on overturning is to pay attention to how your palm is facing in your follow through. usually if you can see your palm with your thumb pointing at the ceiling you haven't overturned. that said, there are bowlers who have made careers out of overturning at release, so it really depends on what works. also advice from friends isn't always entirely accurate, as we can't always be sure what their opinions are based on, which may be well-meaning but ultimately misguided if their opinions aren't fully based on in-depth knowledge of the game and/or aren't applicable to others due to characteristics in play style that is unique to each individual. like if someone tells me i have to stick my balance arm out in front of me when i make my approach because a lot of pba pros do that and it looks cool i'd politely ask them to get lost because doing that turns my waist and throws my armswing out of whack, meaning my shots fly all over the place. as to whether a two-hander can be a full roller, i've had viewers of my other videos say they are full-rolling two-handers, so i guess it is still possible to full roll without using the thumb. when i throw basketballs underhand i get the full-roller, erm, roll, too. though i can also reveal that this is one thing i'll be finding out in a new video i'm currently making, so do stay tuned to see what happens!

[@robvoyles]

my release is just a half roller.....

[@kingpin3292]

Full roller. Smallwood and I forget her name but a Pwba bowler has the same style.

[@fookerbowls9050]

shannon pluhowsky!

[@kingpin3292]

@@fookerbowls9050 yeah that’s it. Thank you

[@poolsidemike1]

I don't notice anything weird. It looks like a regular style to me

[@porto_bowls2807]

My ball does that too and i bowl 2 handed

[@peterifnersr.3237]

It would be very difficult to be a full roller with today's bowling balls and their weight block setup.

[@travishanson166]

Tom Smallwood is a full roller......not difficult at all.

[@shopragracing6883]

I use the 2 handed style I’ve just started it but I’ve been very successful with it hitting 100 and above in only 13 but I’ve been using multiple balls to see what is better I’ve used a 70 dollar ball but now I’m going to try one of the higher ones

[@fookerbowls9050]

instead of looking at equipment i would advise that you concentrate on honing your physical game first! learn how to make one ball work for you, figure out what it can or can't do, and then build up your arsenal based on what you've learned from that ball. when you learn how to make one ball work for you, you can tame basically any ball to your bidding, and that comes from nailing down the fundamentals first!

[@shopragracing6883]

@@fookerbowls9050 I’ve learned all the fundamentals I just need to find s ball that curves better I started with a house ball it barely curved then the one I’m using now it curves more I just need to find a ball more suited for curving but thank you fir the tips

[@corvusxephan6484]

@@shopragracing6883 try any storm products, not sure if you did or not since your comment was 4 months ago but if you want a good ball with good cores inside them then storm bowling balls are the best, even if they are over 200$ try saving up and you’ll be able to get it, also most storm balls have scents too so that’s a bonus lol but yeah instead of wasting money into other technical balls that your most likely never going to use again since you want something that can hook your ball even more, I suggest storm but if you wanna pay for something that’s still really good but for less money, I suggest you try Roto Grip they have good bowling balls too, I’m a storm guy tho storm is my ride or die so that’s why I suggested that brand first haha, anyways hope this helped if your still looking!

[@thecontrarianbull]

@@shopragracing6883 Every ball hooks. If you are not getting "curve", your technique is lacking.

[@coolietoolie]

The music is really distracting from the talking that is being done.

[@tellisper6]

Full roller

[@amandajones7292]

Travis romanger

[@charleshampton9764]

I average 220 in multiple leagues with full roller I just have to drill everything neutral !! I seam to leave less 10 pins than the people I bowl with !

[@amandajones7292]

Start

[@Sproutt]

lolz im sure this is just an old man realease

[@aidenyoung3115]

wut da fook

[@NO-FONT_4592]

Every one you show in the video except for your self is not a full roller so why are you even showing them it mixes up your message and makes you look like you don’t know anything of bowling

[@arthurr7866]

Lame

[@NakedDave100]

If you want to throw this candyass way do it in non competition, it should be banned from competition, it is a slap in the face to bowlers of the past and disrespectful to them who came up through the ranks the right way!!

[@fookerbowls9050]

i'd actually think you should be happy to see more full rollers in the sport! because if you're thinking this is a cheat code that's making the sport unfair to everyone else, i'd have to say you're sadly mistaken, as the only people disadvantaged by throwing full roller are full rollers ourselves. it's more a handicap than a cheat code in the modern game, really! and not in the way where we get extra pins added to our scores.

[@NakedDave100]

@@fookerbowls9050 you have your opinion, I have mine, to me it is a disgrace, if you can't bowl normal, or bowling two handed to be different, either way, in competition bowling one handed should be the only way allowed in the USA, if it is the Aussies who brought this shit here , they need to compete in their own country, and leave the USA alone, if US bowlers want to compete in Australia, then they need to adapt to there garbage!! I'll never think this right or accept it!!! And the American Bowling Congress and PBA are cowards for not enforcing this!!!

[@fookerbowls9050]

@@NakedDave100 thank you for your viewership, then!

[@fookerbowls9050]

anyway...the first known full rollers were...apparently USA players in the PBA...