Always wanted to try this Easter grip but when I ask this question to many pros they say you will have problems but this video helps with my questions hope to hear more content from you enjoy all your vids
@remington143910 ай бұрын
What a Master class on the sarge Easter grip. Q-Being that I have arthritis now in my hand’ I am wondering if this would work for me, thank you Nick.
@Sammy-120710 ай бұрын
Years ago Mo Pinell owned the Mohawk Lanes up in Rome, N.Y. I was a pretty good young left hander then. We had a 4 game classic league at 9 o'clock on a Friday night. The real action would start after bowling when we would lock the door and party til the sun came up! Which is a whole other story not fit to tell here. Anyway, talking. to Mo one night about having a bit of a problem scoring. He told me to bring him a ball I thought hooked 4 boards too much, he plugged the ring finger in my black Angle and drilled the Sarge Easter Grip in it without telling me what it was. I consistently bowling over a 1000 every set with an occasional 900. The man was ahead of his time with ideas about the game and gave me some valuable help that I still draw upon.
@genxman1971Ай бұрын
I have a damaged ring finger where the first digit was broken back in 1989. For years I played with spans and pitches but suffered with finger pain as well as excess soreness. I just switch today and got used to it after the first game. Bought a new ball and drilled it using this drilling and hit a 279 with a Roto Grip Attention star. I'm glad I found your channel.
@rafabonati775710 ай бұрын
Since I remembered having tendon issues from bowling 20 years ago, when I went to a pro shop last year to get a new ball so that I could start bowling again, I asked for the Sarge grip. The pro shop owner said “You don’t want that”. He also told me to throw away my brand new wrist brace that is supposed to help prevent tendonitis. So after bowling a few games for fun last year, guess who had tendonitis? Why are there so many “know it alls”!
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
Need to find a more accommodating pro shop “professional”. 👍🏻
@millsdjr10 ай бұрын
Keep dropping the knowledge man, appreciate it and the hard work it took to bring it.
@rayjayks10 ай бұрын
Excellent! I have been curious about this grip. Although I am not willing to try it, because I don't think I need it, the video provides excellent advice. I feel like I already have more stress on my middle finger than my ring finger on a "conventional" fingertip grip.
@nickschneider1509 ай бұрын
Excellent description of this drilling. Great suggestions for a starting point on changes.
@slakr10 ай бұрын
Great info. Just started bowling again after almost 30 years, man have things changed. So i now have my first finger tip ball at the suggestion of the shop pro. My ring finger and wrist hurt after a few games. My first game is usually decent and I go downhill from there. Considering either trying the Sarge Easter grip, or going back to conventional.
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
Have them take a look at your hand and let them make an adjustment before considering sarge. 👍🏻
@HOBOCOP_II9 ай бұрын
Well im finally making the switch, dropped 2 off with PSO to get switched to sarge, going to pick them up today. This vid was big part of me making switch. Keep up the great vids.
@brunsnick9 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@scottberkhous33799 ай бұрын
Nick - this is exactly what I needed. Had switched over, but still having pain in my second ring finger joint. Currently have one plugged up to try a touch shorter span and new pitches. Thanks!
@brunsnick9 ай бұрын
Hope it helps! It should!
@scottberkhous33798 ай бұрын
@@brunsnick- still getting some pain in my ring finger second knuckle. Feels like I am almost hyperextending my ring finger upon release. Any thoughts on this?
@russellgilbert345310 ай бұрын
I don't use the Sarge, but I do have a dropped ring finger. These tips were very helpful. 👌
@matb3181Ай бұрын
Very interesting. I injured my middle finger when I went up to 15. So now I’m always looking to figure something out to keep from getting discomfort in my hand.
@whiterex0610 ай бұрын
Good info, i was wondering about the finger holes in your bowling balls. Personally, I'm not interested in switching. After decades of basketball with both middle and ring fingers being broken at different times, my fingers are crooked AF.
@acecan647510 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to talk about the grip. If you don’t mind me asking I have two questions. Does this grip help with hand swelling? Is there a place to get a layout for it to get started? Thanks for the valuable feedback.
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
Lowering your grip pressure and friction upon release will minimize swelling. Any pro shop pro can fit you in this grip, but if you’re having swelling issues, get your issues looked at first.
@acecan647510 ай бұрын
Thanks
@joehoenig7596Ай бұрын
Great vid, Nick! I tend to release the ball off the side and have the problem that my middle finger is feeling all the release pressure, while my ring finger feels nothing and isn't helping. I'm wondering about a reverse Sarge grip, where the middle finger is dropped and made conventional, while the ring remains as is with a fingertip grip. Could that work? Thank you
@brunsnickАй бұрын
Anything could work. Have I seen it? No never.
@J0e_Weee2 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on a Sarge Grip on a no thumb ball for 2 hander?
@brunsnick2 ай бұрын
@@J0e_Weee not really, but it could work.
@enigmazero862410 ай бұрын
Can you explain how to use vent holes? Like I imagine that tiny hole goes all the way down and meets the ring finger hole down lower than where your finger actually goes in. How do you measure that, both location of the hole and pitch? What size bit is that?
@stevenmitchell8539Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, Nick. My issue is arthritis in my thumb but have only a small amount of pain in my fingers. In your opinion, is SE an option for me? Thanks
@brunsnickАй бұрын
Probably not. But sounds like shorter span and more forward in the thumb is in your future.
@shjonwaddell935210 ай бұрын
I had been working with Mo Pinel on my grip as I have dupuytren's disease and we moved to a Sarge eater grip now my biggest issue is I have zero tilt.... No matter what I do I can't seem to get any tilt.
@sanjiro101Ай бұрын
what about the offset thumb?
@SealofPerfectionАй бұрын
I have a elbow issue, with my ulnar nerve. Wonder if this grip might help with that?
@brunsnickАй бұрын
Possibly. It all comes down to reducing your grip pressure.
@GunStoreViking3 ай бұрын
65 just decided to start bowling again. Bowled 2.5 games with a 16 lb ball. Still have lingering pain in the ring finger 10 days later. Will a 14lb help or should I try the Sarge Easter grip in a lower weight ball?
@brunsnick3 ай бұрын
Drop weight to 14 👍🏻 no need to throw 16lb anymore.
@jonglabus18969 ай бұрын
Hi Nick! Love your channel. I've recently started to struggle with discomfort the first knuckle of my index finger (where palm and finger meet). Been working with PSO on pitch changes, rolling grip, etc. Do you think a sarge would help relieve pressure from that area? Or, since this grip is intended to take stress off the ring, would it add more to that side of the hand? One handed, thumb in bowler. Thanks!!
@brunsnick9 ай бұрын
Not really sure that Sarge will help with index finger joint pain. Does it only hurt when you bowl?
@erikgordon68938 ай бұрын
good video,i switched to this grip after having tendon issues in the ring finger and it was working well..drilled another ball but pro shop owner changed the span of the finger holes now im having pain in the middle finger tip,any ideas?
@brunsnick8 ай бұрын
Tell your pro shop about that. The change isn’t a good one.
@allee686 ай бұрын
Question? With new rules how is the vent hole legal?
@brunsnick6 ай бұрын
Because it’s a vent hole, not a balance hole. Can have 1 per hole if you want.
@hfdsso147 ай бұрын
Nick, my 15 year old daughter has issues with squeezing her grip to tight at times causing her to carry the ball across in front of her body by the time she get her fingers out of the ball. Do you think the Sarge Easter grip might help with her grip pressure? She is left handed and throws 15# balls with finger tip grips with approximately 14 to 14.5 miles per hour speed and lower rev of 250ish.
@brunsnick7 ай бұрын
No probably not. I’d suggest maybe a refit or at least get the thumbhole more snug. The more she can relax her hand and grip pressure the better. She’s still growing so maybe the span needs to be addressed. A lot of times with youth it’s because the thumb is way too big.
@hfdsso147 ай бұрын
Her span is correct, our pro shop guy refitted her a few months ago. Would a pitch change in the fingers and or thumb help? I would have to check with our PSO to see what they are at now.
@brunsnick7 ай бұрын
@@hfdsso14 possibly yes. Hard to say from where I’m at though. A lot of things can contribute to squeezing.
@KC-zz1so10 ай бұрын
Plugged the ring finger in an existing ball and drilled the ring finger for the Sarge Easter grip. Went half and half with the pitch and it felt very comfortable. Came out of it clean. Only issue i had was I didn't feel locked in, if anything it made my middle finger feel like it was short/shorter. I kept my thumb at 1/8th reverse. Anything you can suggest to feel more locked in?
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
It’s possible that the span there was measured a bit too relaxed. Does it only feel short on that side? Could also snug up the finger hole with tape. Snugger the better
@KC-zz1so10 ай бұрын
@@brunsnick possible it is short because I was getting a slight indentation by my knuckle. I think a little longer and tighter may be the ticket.
@steveg701810 ай бұрын
NICK!!!! This vid is right on time!!! I’ve been using Rx arthritis cream under a golf glove (almost like PDW except without any hand…). Osteoarthritis in the ring finger leaves me achy for days after just a 3 game set. I’m going to talk to my PSO at Demo Day tomorrow. BTW…that shot with Mo…just brought a smile!!!
@steveg70189 ай бұрын
So Nick…when going to this grip…did you offset the thumb to accommodate the change in the ring finger?
@brunsnick9 ай бұрын
No
@steveg70189 ай бұрын
@@brunsnick Thanks for getting back on this!
@brunsnick9 ай бұрын
@@steveg7018 welcome! Yeah I’ve never done an offset. Everything is on the centerline
@4930driver7 ай бұрын
Sir. My ring finger will not bend at 1st knuckle. Broke it in high school, had surgery & they cut the out knuckle and pined it. Should I try this grip?
@brunsnick7 ай бұрын
Maybe? Please consult your pro shop and let them look at your hand. It could work.
@4930driver7 ай бұрын
Ya. Be a hellava road trip to have u look at my hand. South Dakota isn’t a hr drive to you i don’t think
@brunsnick7 ай бұрын
Nope it isn’t.
@christopherwilson700410 ай бұрын
What did the Sarge Easter do you your tilt? Increase it?
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
Not really no. Tilt is something I can vary
@postmonnc016510 ай бұрын
Well I wish I know a pro shop that has more knowledge about full rollers especially those that deals with forearm supination
@scottythompson94010 ай бұрын
Cool video talk tech bowling bowling ball Brunsnick
@JamesCFelty39 ай бұрын
Could you use this grip with both grips?
@brunsnick9 ай бұрын
With both grips?
@JamesCFelty39 ай бұрын
@@brunsnick yes.
@brunsnick9 ай бұрын
@@JamesCFelty3 I don’t understand your question. Are you asking if you can use a grip in the ring finger too? I wouldn’t advise.
@JamesCFelty39 ай бұрын
@@brunsnick that’s what I was asking. I can see why now. Ad always great information and videos!
@traviskirk383410 ай бұрын
My pro shop operator drills my balls the same he has but he just dropped my ring finger and it feels like it just sets and doesn't do anything but I love it alot I can get a more control compared to my fingertip balls
@proxy681510 ай бұрын
what would u say about trying the the finger holes in a sarge easter grip but 2 handed
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
Worth a shot, might be the first.
@superblitz10 ай бұрын
you have a balance hole in your ball 😄 jk
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
Legal cheating 😎
@sanjiro101Ай бұрын
what about the offset thumb?
@yeepatrapee600010 ай бұрын
Can i ask what’s your thumb pitch. Thanks for your information
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
3/16 forward and 1/8 right. Total spans are 4-5/16 and 3-1/4
@KC-zz1so10 ай бұрын
Have a bigger hand. Middle finger is 4 3/4. Current pitch in thumb is 1/8 back. Should I start at zero pitch in the thumb to start to make sure I can clear it?? Great info as always, thanks.
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
@@KC-zz1so I’d try it as is and see if you need to add forward or not. 1/8 reverse isn’t excessive for that total span.
@avos510 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting this video together. Its funny to me that you grabbed the rhino as your display ball, thats the first ball i got drilled sarge thanks to all your backlog of sarge content. Good pick!
@ccr50810 ай бұрын
Just had it done last night. Rolled around 3 games on a Phaze III. Feels good so far and it seems like the ball "works" better. Maybe I'm getting more efficient motion? Have pain from previous pitch issues but seems less strenuous. Giving it time to get used to it. Thanks for the info! Extremely fortunate to have a knowledgeable pro that didn't automatically shut me down when I recommended it.
@jcziebold92016 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I havent bowled due to aging and me breaking my hand 12 years ago, i used to be a 220 average bowler but last week i got one of my old balls drilled(white dot messenger from 2008 lol) by one of the shop owners here in my town, threw a 230,221 and 189 but after the 3rd game my ring finger was very very swollen to the point i couldnt bend at the end knuckle and thinking about just giving up on bowling until i came across this video, i may go out and buy a cheap ball and see what the pro shop thinks on this grip and try it out. Appreciate the information on this video and keep up the good work!
@harm3195 ай бұрын
Having real issues with nerve damage in my thumb. Do you think this style can alleviate this issue? Thanks
@brunsnick5 ай бұрын
Possibly, but I hope you have seen a doctor about that.
@harm3195 ай бұрын
@@brunsnick had my GB2 switched over to Sarge Waster last week and shit a season high 706. Down side still having thumb issues. Going to look into changing my thumb pitch. Thanks
@brunsnick5 ай бұрын
Sounds good! Might need a little shorter span and more forward pitch to alleviate grip pressure in the thumb.
@Phillip_Viera10 ай бұрын
Very informative!
@brandonferris893410 ай бұрын
Nick, when you get the Sarge fit right such that it almost feels like your ring finger isn't even in the ball, as you described, do you naturally get more axis tilt and rotation? I remember Mo Pinel often talking about reducing the influence of the ring finger if you want to increase tilt and rotation. One other question - just a curiosity - does that little vent hole intersect the ring finger hole somewhere below the surface?
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
The grip never really affected my tilt. That’s something that shouldn’t always be static anyway. My tilt will change as I’m playing different parts of the lane. And yes, the vent hole hits the bottom of the ring finger to vent air.
@kevinanderson90936 ай бұрын
Answeref a lot of the common problems. Very knowledgeable video. Been thinking about it because of arthritis in the thumb. Would like your thoughts on using this grip for that reason
@brunsnick6 ай бұрын
May want to look at a shorter span with more forward (or less reverse) in the thumb to start. Whatever you can do to reduce grip pressure.
@Yankees4Ever4137 ай бұрын
how hard is it to get used to this grip? I haven't thrown it yet, but ball is drilled and ready. guess I should just throw first few pretty slow. I gripped it to see what it felt like. while the ring finger was in the ball, I felt the ball on that finger on the left side of it and none on the right. not sure if that means the ring finger hole was drilled to much to the right. I'm a right hander. keep up the great videos bud.
@brunsnick7 ай бұрын
It's possible the bridge is too wide or not enough right pitch but try it and see.
@JLH_LetsPlay10 ай бұрын
Is there an advantage for you to have your finger holes angled like this or is it like this to take pressure off your ring finger? -curious-
@brunsnick10 ай бұрын
Yes. I bowl pain free now. No more ring finger issues.
@ham4fun8 ай бұрын
what would you say to someone who is low rev and bowls from a wheelchair who wants to try this layout? just curious
@brunsnick8 ай бұрын
If you’re having hand issues then it might be worth a shot. Or at least a conversation with your pro shop. 👍🏻
@garrettm206 ай бұрын
The sarge grip helps the ring finger if you have problems, what can you do if the issue is on the middle finger , tried shorter , more reverse , still has alot of discomfort do you have any suggestion for this.
@brunsnick6 ай бұрын
Maybe a vacu install on the grip.
@garrettm206 ай бұрын
@brunsnick tried that, tried shorter span, tried more reverse , tried also using index finger non really work. The reverse sarge was more comfortable not sure I was coming out the ball correctly.