I used to sell TVs at Walmart, and TCL/Vizio were top sellers, which accurately reflected the budget buyers at the store. Side-by-side, looking hard enough, TCL and Hisense were inferior to Samsung and LG, but the TCL/Hisense had unbeatable prices. To start out, TCL had good enough TVs at very attractive prices. Not too cheap and not too expensive. Now, TCL has the scale and the technology to go big and bring top-tier technology at Samsung, LG, and Sony's level. A major factor to TCL's insane growth is that the Chinese government/provincial governments were known to provide cheap loans to promote industrial production. Building new factories and equipping them is a highly capital intensive. TCL effectively had unlimited loans in their ascendancy, so TCL could lose money without consequences to gain market share until they can compete at Samsung or LG's level.
@kashre0016 ай бұрын
What percentage of the TCL tvs carried the Roku OS? I bet it's a pretty high number. Also, Chris Larson (the TCL executive mentioned in the video) moved over to Roku a while ago.
@jensenraylight80116 ай бұрын
so, you telling me if i'm selling 85 inch TV for $20, i can beat TCL?
@worldtownfc6 ай бұрын
@@jensenraylight8011 Similar quality and lifespan with super low prices. Then, it's possible. Scaling up manufacturing to that make sub-$100 MSRP 85-Inch TVs would be insane. Next, build a reliable logistical support network for RMAs. Then, you would need a lender (government or massive financial company) to bankroll your losses until you become profitable.
@theworldoffun89976 ай бұрын
@@jensenraylight8011if you can do that long enough and do not go bankrupt, you sure can
@gold99946 ай бұрын
@@jensenraylight8011 The key is "surviving" until you get profit. There are tens of Chinese company that failed. It's like a VC really. Invest in 100 and hope that 1 will succeed to cover the 100 lost.
@ViralWatchMedia6 ай бұрын
Ive had a TCL TV since 2017 and its still running like a champ! Honestly kinda blown away by this brand and how decent the quality is at that price.
@amandagrant43316 ай бұрын
I don't have any quality complaints about TCL TV.
@AquaSmartTV6 ай бұрын
TCL durability 15.000 hours, If you use your TV for 3 hours every day you can be sure that it will be damaged within 10 years if there is no electricity problem. Samsung, LG, Sony, sharp, toshiba, panasonic durability over 20.000 hours. And actually, if we compare the image quality with the same resolution, TCL loses to Korean and Japanese brands tv
@jogana69096 ай бұрын
@@AquaSmartTV SONY TV is not that durable. I have a friend who likes SONY very much, but his TV has only been used for less than five years. Because of the high repair price, he finally gave up and bought a Hisense.
@randomstuff142016 ай бұрын
@@AquaSmartTV I don't think that anyone cares if their tv lasts longer than 10 years or not. By that time your TV has been long outdated anyways
@chrisbaker26696 ай бұрын
I have a TCL and I think it is a high quality tv at a low price.
@jceggbert56 ай бұрын
I bought a TCL TV in 2018 to use as a desk monitor and it still works perfectly, all day, every day. I'm almost sad it's still fine because it'd be nice to upgrade but I can't justify replacing my 55" 4k monitor with a slightly better 55" 4k monitor
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Hahaha, what a problem to have :)
@gags7306 ай бұрын
I bought a TCL series 4 4k 55" TV (Android version) and use it as a monitor. Works great. The only thing I hate is the Remote they have like no buttons/functionality. As far as the TV I actually bought 2 of them the same day as Best Buy had a sale and they were only $250... how can ya go wrong with that deal. I put the other one in my bedroom. The only other complaint is that the Wifi drops the connection more than it should. So the negatives for me are the remote and the Wifi as far as the image I think its great. It would be better if Windows had less problems with scaling issues for apps/programs
@busterscrugs5 ай бұрын
You use a 55" tv as a monitor? Mad man 😂
@jceggbert55 ай бұрын
@@busterscrugs it's like having 4x 27" monitors mounted in a grid, except without any borders!
@MMID3034 ай бұрын
Saying something you bought in 2018 is still working perfectly to this day kind of gives me a sense of disappointment. My grandparents had an old Zenith wooden console in the basement that still worked at 30 years old. Today's electronics are crap when it comes to quality components.
@misfitcherries6 ай бұрын
TCL is one the best TVs I've had, it's such a bang for your buck and it shows how welcoming new companies to a niched market can be great overall!
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Yeah agreed. They really transformed the entrenched TV industry for the better!
@vijul2816 ай бұрын
Same
@Aliens13376 ай бұрын
I got a 50 inch 4k TCL TV for like $350 almost 8 years ago when 4k TV were at minimum $500-$1000. Only just upgraded to a bigger TV last year. TCL is definitely the value brand.
@dennisp85206 ай бұрын
TCL may be great value but Sony is best quality. I would honestly would rather pay a little more for the quality considering tvs last for years. Plus TCL isn’t gunna stay this way forever
@Shortimations6 ай бұрын
yes but since they are a Chinese company they are legally required to share user data with the Chinese government
@laurlaur11956 ай бұрын
First time bought a P series in 2019. Wich is the cheap, entry level series. In Romania, they are quite new on the market. But i gambled. And i won. Now, i bought a second one, but this time it's a top notch C845. Wow. With a bit of tuning, i'm geting close to oled black, but at half the price. Not to mention i bought to pair it with PS5. It has all the goodies : miniled qled, 4k, 144hz, ALLM, VRR, 240hz game boost, Game master, dolby atmos and vision, HDR10+, 2000 nits brightness. the 55" model has 376 local dimming zones. The top 85" version has 976. So, no backlight bleeding&shit. This is the best bang for the buck.
@sorinpopa14423 ай бұрын
same i got a TCL miniled last year in winter ,55 C805 miniled for almost half the price i paid like 5-6 years ago for a middle tier, lcd tv from Panasonic , and side by side its way better that that older Panasonic tv , much better contrast ,black level , brightness , colors and 0 stutter in apps + tone of new features . that tv was a Panasonic CX 680 so not a bad one by any means . Not to meantion i manage i got 5y warranty for it si in this current tv market in my country this tv felt like a steal ^^
@ak-t7d6f6 ай бұрын
TCL was never an unknown brand for me. I remember my older brother and my dad bring a massive black TCL CRT TV in the early 2000's. It looked massive for its time and worked with no issues. The only issue was that the remote was pretty fragile and had to be replaced every few years. In the early 2010's when my brother got married he got the CRT as a hand me down and we got a new LCD TV. Even then, the TV kept working for years. Probably 15+ years. So the TCL TV brand was a good brand to me even though I didn't know anyone else with the same brand of TV. I can only imagine that they got better with their TVs!
@hikigayahachiman89516 ай бұрын
We had a TCL 39 inch tv, and its 7 yeArs old it is still functioning asf. Its outdated with the smart tv of today, but with the help of tv stick, we can watch netflix no problem.
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that man!
@personzorz6 ай бұрын
Outdated is a feature. It knows its place.
@mikaelhellsen44546 ай бұрын
To be fair, no one ever asked for more features than being able to stream to the tv
@aoh49056 ай бұрын
almost every TV runs over 7 years perfectly.... it's not a phone bro lol
@amandagrant43316 ай бұрын
When I buy TCL electrical appliances, I never worry about quality.
@AosZ6 ай бұрын
Its not just the Panel that matters. The processor chip and Image processing algorithms matter. Thats why the TV quality differs between Sony, Samsung, and LG. LG's image processing being the furthest behind (opinion).
@angryowlet1536 ай бұрын
I use a 10 year old, 22" desktop monitor that I picked up on clearance. When this one dies (if I can't repair it), I'll be getting another used monitor.
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Fair enough
@personzorz6 ай бұрын
It knows its place, and won't screw you over following internet commands from its masters over the internet
@iulioh6 ай бұрын
I see the people that spend 2k on a pc and use a 50$ monitor to see what that pc outputs lol
@sintaxera6 ай бұрын
I use my phone 😬 i only watch yt and rumble tho
@uvwxyzero6 ай бұрын
Here is a medal 🏅
@alexelectricx6 ай бұрын
TCL makes great TVs! I currently have a 23' Q7 75" display and I love it!
@rickwhittaker25256 ай бұрын
Bought a 55 inch TLC mini-led quantum dot for 800 euros 2 years ago. The image is great. It's in a very bright room so I went mini-led instead of Oled. No regrets.
@ckennylin7176 ай бұрын
4:30: The Apple Brand does carry substantially more weight -- the Vision Pro is HEAVY!
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Facts, literally
@morganangel3406 ай бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered
@etow80345 ай бұрын
Yet Apple failed at producing an EV while Huawei and Xiaomi succeeded !
@james86066 ай бұрын
I have to say I've always been a Sony fan for my tvs and my wife decided to buy the family a new TV for the living room and got a TCL 55" TV to replace our 46" Sony TV. I was a little mad at the start for not speaking to me about it but she wanted to get something as a surprise so could not be to mad. That said I've been nothing but impressed with it. The Android OS and TV is very fast, picture quality is very good and so far I've had no issues. It's definitely made me rethink what I will get when I look at upgrading to my next TV.
@kashre0016 ай бұрын
This video is incomplete without mentioning RokuOS that most TCL tvs used to carry. A huge part of their popularity can be attributed to them adopting the Roku OS early on. Also, Chris Larson doesn't work at TCL no more, hes at Roku today.
@Pidalin6 ай бұрын
If it doesn't have Android TV OS, it's useless in these days, you need proper support for FHD or 4K and corporations like Disney will not allow you to watch full quality on some "weird OSL," they won't allow it neither on PC with Windows anymore. This problem with streaming wars went already too far and it has to stop.
@PsychoAssasin6 ай бұрын
Roku is terrible, and is the one reason I don't like the TCL TV I have
@beko19875 ай бұрын
I made sure I picked the Android tv tcl rather than roku and I'm glad! (can sideload apps and do usual android things)
@Pidalin5 ай бұрын
@@beko1987 The fact that you have to care about what operating system your TV has is ridiculous, I don't want to live in this time, I want 90s back. 😀
@SlinkyD5 ай бұрын
Too bad I was a teen then @@Pidalin. The $$$$$$ was really circulating then, thru all levels.
@ray1018926 ай бұрын
I bought a sony bravia in 2013 for about $2500. It suddenly wouldn't turn on in 2020 and the repair center said there would be no timetable for when it would be fixed since it's an old model and they had to scavenge their warehouse for a model similar to it for parts and it was the start of the pandemic lockdowns. I bought a similarly sized $400 TCL without expectation since I was on a budget. 4 years on, it's still up and running and my sony ended up getting junked because they couldn't find any parts.
@gsst63896 ай бұрын
Trash quality 🤮
@tonydarcy74756 ай бұрын
I had the same issue. Bought a Sony TV in 2019 and it died after 3 years (it had a big green box that kept getting bigger), meanwhile the TCL TV I bought in 2016 is still going strong. These days I only buy TCL & Ffalcon (TCL's budget brand) TV's.
@ishkapiska45166 ай бұрын
TVs will last on average 8years now. it’s not surprising your Sony died, it was at the end of its life
@KenjiEspresso6 ай бұрын
My Sony x900e died at 7 years. Barely worth it. I say pay under 1,000.00 only pay 1,500 for OLED. Then buy the 5 year warranty for peace of mind at Best Buy.
@ishkapiska45166 ай бұрын
@@KenjiEspresso yeah , a lot of people expect their TVs to last 10-20 years like the old ones used to.. and that’s why they don’t get the protection plan/extended warranty. Either that or they just say they’ll buy another when it dies.
@Paulie8K6 ай бұрын
I had (well still own but don't use anymore) a TCL 42" 4K tv which I used as a monitor for several years. I've since updated to a Sony 65" for my living room and an 55" LG OLED for my bedroom but TCL is surely the best bang for the buck along with Hisense.
@falcontomto6 ай бұрын
7:12 Lenovo is Chinese, but ASUS and Acer are both Taiwanese companies. They are most certainly NOT backed by CCP.
@Philbyyyy6 ай бұрын
Alot of Lenovo management are not Chinese though so they don't get as much attention. They also aren't totally centred in China
@vanhuvanhuvese27386 ай бұрын
Lenovoo bought IBM Desktop department .hence the quality and the name thinkpad etc
@robertlee63386 ай бұрын
Asus, Acer and Foxconn are Chinese lol. I'm not talking politic I am stating their race. Of course Taiwan says they are not China and China says Taiwan is China but they are Chinese race. Much like Jews says they are not Arabs but they are
@RevaNur-i6i6 ай бұрын
Seems CCP live rent free in your head, good luck man 😂
@Stefan-oi9nk6 ай бұрын
Technically, ASUS and Acer are companies from the Republic of China so they’re Chinese.
@MickdeRaad6 ай бұрын
I work in retail. TCL tvs are good and at a better price point. They are also not lossleaders. Their QLED - 144 hz tvs are amazing.
@TheAbinn6 ай бұрын
Sony is king of quality of screen
@tim31724 ай бұрын
@@TheAbinn Ehhh... a lot of their screens suffer from vignetting. Their OLEDs have ultra-extreme ABL dimming. Their newest series have buzzy, shrill, inductors of poor quality that sound like the TV is dying all the time. They're stuck on 2 HDMI 2.1 inputs because they refuse to produce their own SoCs and instead use garbage MediaTek chipsets which are slow, have insufficient RAM for Google TV, and are limited in HDMI bandwidth. They're, no doubt, the king of color science, but they're far from the king of screens overall.
@kingof2066 ай бұрын
I bought a Vizio TV and it broke a while back. It wasn’t even a 4k. I recently got a TCL 42 inch 4K TV and it works perfectly. Great television, and it was inexpensive as well compared to other brands.
@Keisujunko6 ай бұрын
We have a 65", 55", and 40" TCL TVs currently. Ever since 2014, not once did the brand fail us.
@AustinGouldP6 ай бұрын
I just want to take a moment and thank you for your informative videos!
@ertannebi31815 ай бұрын
Amazing video just bought a new TCL TV the other day so looking forward to it when it arrives such a good purchase and very exciting✊👊💪💪
@grahamw57356 ай бұрын
TCL seems to be really good for the average consumer who wants decent PQ without paying $$$. Will not buy an LCD TV though - Only TV I'd ever consider buying these days is an OLED or other self-emissive/per pixel lighting display - which is still likely some time from TCL, at least in the >80" range. I might consider a 100"+ LCD TV for my projector space .... but it won't fit in my doorway/stairwell :(
@balpreetsingh68346 ай бұрын
Great video as always
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Thank you as always Balpreet!
@shubhamrathi34694 ай бұрын
The rise of Chinese brands is unstoppable. They have entered the Smart market with (Xiaomi,Huawei) , the PC and Laptop market with Lenovo and now the TV market with TCL. If the things go on like this for a long time then soon the western brands could not complete with the chinese brands.
@Iangdela6 ай бұрын
2:07 that timestamp is the MAIN reason why I went back to Samsung unfortunately...most TCL's give of a slight "fingerprint " effect in the screens background. I seen it instantly when it first powered on. I changed all type of settings(some has a lack of adv. video Settings) and still the same effect in the background...had to take 2 back and just went back with my 55" Samsung. P.s. Look on the left side of the cartoon being played...sky blue background.
@rastafari6576 ай бұрын
Too bad Roku sorta forced arbitration with their newest updates and you can’t opt out of it. You can’t sue if there is a problem which is sorta worrying for future buyers.
@1stGenRex3 ай бұрын
Do you go around suing software companies often?
@skelebro99996 ай бұрын
yay more tech videos!
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Indeed
@MrMackievelli6 ай бұрын
It's not that Vizio had bad quality per se, they have poor support and poor software. My 2021 PQX looks phenomenal still but they literally broke some features and made it unstable and still have failed to fix it with a software update. Their biggest mistake was trying to compete with the higher end tvs lik OLED. They forget half the value on the higher end is support and features, they go together. You can't slap a 3000nit panel and call it high end.
@MrGanbat846 ай бұрын
I have TCL 65 inch probably old model but it is working insanely good. Still loved. I bought it in SKorea.
@samirshah54116 ай бұрын
Absolutely love my 85” TCL QM8 and Hisense 100” U8K(only paid $2999 brand new). I even own the LG 77 inch C1 and these new value brands are incredible for performance/price, I’m done with OLED until the pricing is cheaper and if they get bigger.
@stankydripp6 ай бұрын
We bought a 32 inch TCL LCD around 5 years ago for 145usd. It has been hanging there since then because the motherboard fried after the warranty was over. And we haven't been able to find a replacement part in the market either. So, there's that about TCL
@BIGV1N6 ай бұрын
Whenever I see you've uploaded, it brightens my day. Always very interesting subjects and I love the pace and delivery. Great job!
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Really glad to hear that man :)
@unavezms81674 ай бұрын
I have one panasonic and one samsung tv in my home. Both over a decade old. Both work perfectly.
@menjivarTv6 ай бұрын
It's just like Huawei, they started as an economical option but really put the R&D to offer the same features as the more premium TVs, I bought a QLED TV from them on black friday for $400 and I'm blown away by the quality
@Sacto16546 ай бұрын
I'd like to see TCL make 50" and larger with *NO* smart TV features, instead allowing the buyer to choose their streaming device from the likes of Amazon, Apple, nVidia and Roku connected over the HDMI port. That way, TCL could cut the price of their TV's even more.
@jcsenhamster3156 ай бұрын
Good content. Yes, you're right about other brands outsource to other companies.
@JamshadAhmad6 ай бұрын
TCL should be proud. I am also using a TCL tv with QLED. Amazing display.
@Gman20025 ай бұрын
I came from well known TV brands like my old Toshiba Plasma, Samsung LED. Unfortunately the Samsung TV from 2015 stopped powering on so I had to pickup another TV. I was skeptical about Chinese brands like Hisense and TCL. So I started following reviews on the TCL QM8 from various YTubers I follow. Not seeing the TV in person but impressed with the price, reviews and how close the QM8 was compared to previous years OLEDs I pulled the trigger last August and still amazed on how the TV performs. Although it’s not an exact match for the ultra detailed black levels, motion clarity and specular highlights like typical OLEDs, the high brightness levels, not having to baby-sit the TV to avoid burn and lower costs per size of the TV in was my selling point. There are some cons such as the QM8 UI is not ultra snappy like my Samsung or ATV. It takes a bit for the UI to be fully loaded and functional. Which is pretty disappointing for TCL’s flagship line. Seems as if the software updates have been slowing things down compared to day one of ownership. Overall it was a good bargain.
@Freedom_from_imp5 ай бұрын
I buy nothing but TCL. During times of sky-high inflations, it makes sense to spend more than $500 or $600 for a 4k 75 inch tv. If not displayed side-by-side, 99% of all viewers would not be able to tell the difference between a $2k Sammy and a $600 TCL. TCL all the way for me and save myself a few grands.
@PhyZey6 ай бұрын
I bought a TCL back in 2018 it was their mid tier I forgot the exact model but has 4K HDR with Dolby vision. I’m stunned how well the picture quality has held up and the Roku OS never hiccuped on me. My dad bought a Vizio 75 inch in 2021 and it honestly started to degrade after year, the backlight started to fail to the point like last year or so dark scenes were impossible to watch. So Vizio definitely living up to the their horrible reputation while TCL made me not hesitate again to buy their TVs
@musek50483 күн бұрын
i've had two 50 inch vizios back to back in the last 10 years or so and both times the tv's died around the 5 to 6 year mark which seemed ok for what i paid but this time i bought a tcl and i gotta say i'm impressed with the image quality. wish i would've bought a tier above the 4 series instead.
@theozank8535 ай бұрын
I have a 50" TCL in the Bedroom as a computer monitor and a 65" TCL in the Living Room as a computer monitor with surround sound. They are great. I know that better picture quality is out there but for the price these are hard to beat. Both have the Roku features that expand them beyond just being computer monitors.
@_____alyptic6 ай бұрын
Just got me a TCL TV today and im never going back to Samsung after this. Android TV, Neo-QLED, Dolby Vision, FreeSync VRR, 55 inches, a reasonable price and the list goes on
@RatchetRorschach6 ай бұрын
which specific model and how much
@doodskie9996 ай бұрын
Another runner up is skyworth. Their the number 1 manufacturer and supplier of TV panels for the top brands today
@Roeclean6 ай бұрын
It's been nice. The shortest run from this channel, but still a nice one
@dumdumbrown42256 ай бұрын
Good’ne Hari - recently bought a 65” LG TV for $450 delivered. As we’re likely to go bigger for our next one, we now have our eyes on TCL …good stuff!
@madcalm20246 ай бұрын
The rise of BoE LCD panels which in turn has involved the rise of TCL, SkyWorth/Metz/Coocaa, Visio and Hisense ))
@johnrusselperez22336 ай бұрын
Next make a story about the rise of Haier Appliances. Another success story you could talk about.
@Chink91985 ай бұрын
Bought a TCL Smart TV way back in 2020 for 200USD. Still going strong.
@dangerbeans96396 ай бұрын
I bought a TCL back in 2016. It wasn't great, but it was cheap. Really shocks me to hear how far they've come.
@Sid874816 ай бұрын
Hey man I like your content ❤❤
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Really glad to hear that Sukunatensho!
@yungluke6 ай бұрын
I got a 2019 Samsung Q80R QLED that retails at $1,500 and I got it at a used TV store for $800 and I love everything about this TV. I don't think I'll ever get another brand of TV again but TCL might be my second choice. I really just wanted this TV so I could play games in 4K
@Mariobrownio19896 ай бұрын
How about TCL vs Hisense?
@greylock59856 ай бұрын
FYI TSMC is not a Chinese company, they are based in Taiwan and TSMC stands for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company.
@matthewwalewangko19956 ай бұрын
As someone who still owns a 3D TV and watches 3D movies (Dredd, Mad Max: Fury Road, G.I.T.S 2017) I will not take this 3D slander lying down, I will sit instead 🙃
@DannerBanks6 ай бұрын
Vizio use to be the value leader. Look at CNET reviews from 10 years ago. But they were destined to fail the second their suppliers (e.g. TCL) decided to get into the game and undercut them as the middle man.
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Ah makes sense
@3811eric6 ай бұрын
They both are Chinese-made. Chinese products are not well-known for their high-quality products. I want the highest quality products for my family and Chinese products are certainly not on my list.
@etow80345 ай бұрын
Walmart bought Vizio brand, so it will now be a Walmart exclusive item !
@etow80345 ай бұрын
@@3811eric You have no idea what "Quality" even means buddy ...go back into your hole !
@ramonkroutz2 ай бұрын
You sound smarter with your mouth sealed @@3811eric
@patientzero2916 ай бұрын
TCL focused on data collection and at the same time, providing decent quality and lower priced item.
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Hmmm
@Rncko6 ай бұрын
@@LogicallyAnswered Also the ROKU issue. ROKU basically can now hold your TV hostage even after purchase.
@MaddJakd5 ай бұрын
I thought all of them do similar to subsidize their "cheaper" smart TVs
@ddddaaddaaaa5 ай бұрын
our first smart TV was TCL. still works perfectly for almost a decade. surprisingly Netflix still works on this TV.
@not_enough_space6 ай бұрын
I got a TCL TV a couple years ago, thinking I was just getting something cheap and disposable. But I was pleasantly surprised! First, the interface was more responsive than other TVs I'd used. That might sound like a small thing, but it's actually huge. And I had no idea what the "Roku" thing was supposed to be but it means I'm getting free ad-supported TV and movies. I particularly like that it's not just the latest generic content. I've been using it for the 1976 _Bionic Woman_ show and 1984's _Murder, She Wrote._
@ohmygosh61766 ай бұрын
TCL is going to take a huge loss. Their Roku embedded TV is getting a huge backlash. Apparently, Roku just updated their terms and conditions where you have to agree to not sue them if they have done you wrong. If you do not agree, then your TV becomes disabled. You can't even change the hdmi port. Basically, they hold your TV hostage. It is an extremely shameful act from Roku. Unfortunately, I have TLC from 3 years ago, and I can't even return it. Now, it has become an expensive paper paperweight.
@vincei42526 ай бұрын
LG. You mean the LG that sells fridges that don't work and says you can't sue them? I have no tears for LG.
@dennisp85206 ай бұрын
You act like TCL isn’t just as bad as a company same with Vizio. I have LG appliances and have been content with them and have had no issues so far.
@vincei42526 ай бұрын
@@dennisp8520 Where in this comment did I support TCL? I'd never heard of them until this video. Maybe you're the one "acting"
@RevaNur-i6i6 ай бұрын
@@vincei4252 just another sinophobe, ignored
@gordonbraithwaite67406 ай бұрын
My LG fridge freezer still works perfectly after 14 years. Never had any other make that lasted so long.
@3811eric6 ай бұрын
TCL. Do you mean the TCL that sells cheap copycat QLED TVs? I will never buy any copycat products.
@derek85646 ай бұрын
The only thing I would be worried about is software in the TV that reports back to the CCP.
@seancai10496 ай бұрын
lmao the fear-mongering from the media has gotten the masses into extreme paranoia, so that is the ccp all the way across the pacific gonna do with your porn watching habits ? Nothing lmao if staying off grid is impossible i rather have a foreign government spying on me than the NSA
@orange11squares5 ай бұрын
as opposed to reporting back to NSA or similar....the censorship and data collection in the west is 100x higher than what is in china.
@hink00275 ай бұрын
the tv must be a ccp member
@nielbrookes18905 ай бұрын
Another one obsessed with CCP and spreading misinformation
@ChrisLightbulb6 ай бұрын
Sony also uses Samsung OLED panels for their high-end models like the A95K and A95L. These models are superior to Samsung's models that use the same panels, as they have a better processor, better heatsink on the back of the screen to cool and extend the lifespan of the panel, and they license Dolby Vision so you can watch the highest quality HDR content. Samsung still doesn't license Dolby Vision and most titles don't have HDR10+, so you're almost always limited to standard HDR on Samsung TVs. I believe most reviewers rate the Sony XR-77A95L as the absolute best TV currently available.
@Chaitanyaworld2692Ай бұрын
Sony lg samsung still quality kings Tcl is not beating them in quality sales may be cheaper and way to affordable in that price point i know tcl is good👌
@jjcoolaus6 ай бұрын
How is their software updates? My Sony TV got an update 8 years after release
@metalfly.6 ай бұрын
TCL uses Roku OS, the one that LG uses, the software update will be up to Roku but I don't think it will be a problem. I also have an older Sony TV and the Android TV OS on them was absolutely atrocious, it's so much less responsive than what's on LG and TCL. Plus nowadays you really only need the TV OS for audio/visual configuration, a Chromecast or Apple TV unit will be better for media consumption.
@My_Old_YT_Account6 ай бұрын
Honestly you're better off never connecting your TV to the internet
@dennisp85206 ай бұрын
@@metalfly.Android TV is the reason I favored Sony. It’s better than Samsung’s proprietary tv OS and in my opinion better than Roku in terms of being an integrated TV experience. It can be a little sluggish sometimes but it’s much better than say a Chrome-cast dongle
@dennisp85206 ай бұрын
@@My_Old_YT_Account then what’s the point of having a tv
@My_Old_YT_Account6 ай бұрын
@@dennisp8520 Watching tv? Playing video games? Both from their own boxes plugged through HDMI?
@interstat22226 ай бұрын
TCL was already in the budget market since the early 2000s under the RCA and big box store own brands. Also heavily subsidised by their government.
@Ka11zer6 ай бұрын
The only problem with a TCL/Hisense is that it's an extremely good panel but the upscaling is not even close to what a samsung or sony offers. Native content plays great but since there isn't a lot of native high resolution content available, so since you are relying on upscaling for watching sports/live tv or watching content via netflix which is known to notoriously save bandwidth by streaming at 1440p to 4K screens and its very rare that you get a true 4K signal which is again not even close to bluray quality, so low bitrate native content. which is why you need to think your usecase and content consumption habits to know what kind of stuff you are looking for, going for a samsung means even 720p will look good on 4K panel, but 720p will look like 720p on a TCL/Hisense with close to no upscaling
@gman76utube5 ай бұрын
I think you’re on to something, the extra magic that makes a good looking image is the video processing ASIC, whether it’s upscaling or adjusting colors, contrast, black levels on the fly. I have a 1080 Sony from 2008 and the image/color it presents is quite good. Maybe it could be better in the area of shadow detail, but it’s much better than cheap 4k tvs. And also not crushing whites.
@itwasntoptional511419 күн бұрын
You have no idea how well their upscaling has gotten. TCL and Hisense beat Samsung TV’s in upscaling depending on the model. Samsung’s flagship is basically equal
@Ka11zer19 күн бұрын
@@itwasntoptional5114 yeah mate it's called a "flagship" for a reason. They're supposed to be the best of the crop, TCL is up there but signal and image processor in a TV are key components, same as the panel
@itwasntoptional511419 күн бұрын
@@Ka11zer Yeah and as I just said TCL and Hisense are on par with Samsung’s flagship in upscaling as well as content smoothing. It’s not 2019 anymore buddy. They have good processors
@LifeWulf6 ай бұрын
Holy crap, I wish I had the space and money for a new TV right now, 85” on sale for $1499 CAD. Hari, you've convinced me to seriously consider a TCL for my next TV.
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Hahaha, hope it works well man :)
@ModernExpressGamer5 ай бұрын
Watching this on a TCL tv peak meta
@chrisbaker26696 ай бұрын
I’m watching this video on my TCL tv with Roku and I absolutely love my tv I love how my picture looks, I love the flow of my tv, I love how easy the apps are to use, I thought the price point of the tv was excellent at $330 for a 55 inch 4k tv and I bought it several years ago it has gotten cheaper since I bought it. I’m super happy with my TCL purchase.
@Will_Bx_NYC_7186 ай бұрын
This sounds great and all. But I’ll stick with LG & Samsung
@Trevnas6 ай бұрын
Made by TCL the rebranding 😅
@alpzepta5 ай бұрын
@@TrevnasAt this point I’ll be fine with a TCL panel with Sony or LG badge and I’ll pretend it’s from their panel
@shadeblackwolf15086 ай бұрын
I live in the netherlands, grouping tvs here by price then rating them within the price bands, the only competition for TCL is Philips here, but that's because they don't have import tariffs. they're assembled here, mostly from inhouse parts as far as i can tell.
@KanishQQuotes6 ай бұрын
TCL was already making TV components . Reminds me of an Indian company called samtel which made parts for CRT tvs They started selling tvs in India and immediately captured the market with really cheap price and bulk order deals. Almost every hotel in India back in the days of CRT were samtel
@taigoinu39284 ай бұрын
After many years fanboy of LG and Sony i purchased 65 TCL miniled 4k 144 hz tv for 1200 euro and i love it
@jordanskie535Ай бұрын
Just bought Tcl c845 here at the philippines. Waiting for the delivery nextweek. Thank you for the information😄.
@ardschuna886 ай бұрын
I'm fine with my LG C2 4K OLED TV, I love it for watching movies and as gaming monitor!
@WingingItCrypto5 ай бұрын
To be honest, you might've just sold me a TCL TV
@Shmingitt5 ай бұрын
I had some experiences with tcl they broke but they do look good. But i like vizio better because they tend to last a pretty long time and look really good in my opinion. Heck im even watching this video on my vizio 55 inch that is from 2015 and its still holding strong.
@headbumb90226 ай бұрын
8:19 Is that JerryRigEverything at the bottom middle with the camera facing him?
@jcsenhamster3156 ай бұрын
Yes, he is
@freealien41906 ай бұрын
Yes
@buschg71066 ай бұрын
Here's the thing, I'm a Samsung guy and tried LG. LG is OVERRATED unless it's the G series. My Samsung tvs are great BUT I went with a QM8 85-INCH for $1200 and it's only bested by my S95B. It's superb and cost less than my 55-inch S95B did.
@guadalupe85896 ай бұрын
You got a point about early TCL tvs. I had a few and the brightness and viewing angles were horrible and definitely issues with blacklight bleeding. It left me with the feeling that TCL = bargain Chinese knockoff tvs. Obviously they've improved quite a bit. We'll see how things go when my current Samsung goes out
@ayeshanbandara80036 ай бұрын
Watching this video on a flagship TCL 85” and cannot be happier. I still got my 65” LG oled in my other living room but still prefer to watch on the bigger TCL.
@emmcee4766 күн бұрын
Which model TCL?
@magicmanchloe6 ай бұрын
7:50 no, Sony also have some that the buy some Samsung display
@wiggebiggebus50476 ай бұрын
Watching this on my tcl tv
@TradingAbroad6 ай бұрын
Haha me tooo
@vijul2816 ай бұрын
Same
@LogicallyAnswered6 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@Air_Cardinal2 ай бұрын
I just found a 43" TCL QLED 4K thats 120Hz. Fantastic for my PC. No other manufacturer offers this so cheap.
@pmc_5 ай бұрын
> All of [Sony's] OLED panels are actually made by LG Sony uses whatever OLED panels are best at the moment. Currently, the A95L uses Samsung Display QD-OLED panels.
@MaddJakd5 ай бұрын
Are Sony actually using LG/Samsung panels, or are LG and Smasung manufacturing Sony's panels for them? Becasue after Sony "left" the panel making business, they seem to keep showing off various panel tech that is actually their own, especially as of late. And I don't see Samsung and LG just letting Sony get away with using their tech better than they do.
@valorien16 ай бұрын
6:25: "... to Chinese manufactures like Foxconn or TSMC..." Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, and what do you think the "T" in the TSMC stands for?
@KMASIF-mi9yj6 ай бұрын
Nah they will be Chinese inevitably. No way China let's USA place their nukes within 100 miles of china.
@KMASIF-mi9yj6 ай бұрын
They will be Chinese inevitably
@electrohacker6 ай бұрын
this seems like an AI channel
@TimotheeChalametsPeach5 ай бұрын
May as well be, with the completely false and made up narratives he’s pushing about those 3 KZbin ppl buying TCL TVs over normal brands because of its quality and not because of the fact they needed a new tv specifically for the videos they were filming and obviously chose the cheapest one they could get
@nielbrookes18905 ай бұрын
Tcl is cheaper than lg and Samsung but it is of very good quality
@TheBikemaster944 ай бұрын
@@nielbrookes1890I fell into a trap of buying a cheap Vizio V series. The plastic would squeak and the power cord would come off with the slightest movement😢 I would've kept if the build quality was better . I would've paid an extra 20 dollars too
@RedLeo-pf9yo3 ай бұрын
It’s not.
@sanurawat16515 ай бұрын
In just 8 decade.... Dude 80 years is long time.....
@rakibshaharia57586 ай бұрын
i wish TCL will come to south Asia .here TCL like brand will thrive like xiomi did
@muyvin986 ай бұрын
The panels that TCL manufactured for other brands. while they make it. it might have been on different spec and quality control
@michaelbeckerman75326 ай бұрын
Exactly! And all of those things factor into both cost AND long-term reliability. Just because it comes out of the same factory does NOT mean it is of the same level of quality. I wish more people actually did their homework in this area and paid closer attention to how things are actually done. The devil is ALWAYS in the details!
@neideparente14496 ай бұрын
TCL is now supplying Xiaomi with incredibly good quality cell screens, cheap too
@Richard74816 ай бұрын
It’s consumer demand. There’s a vast swathe of buyers that don’t care about panel type, they just want an affordable and bigger TV to replace their older and smaller model. TCL has captured this market, along with Hisense. Sure, those who want the best panel tech will go with the big boys of Samsung, Sony and LG, but for the rest? If you couldn’t care less about the OLED vs Mini/Micro LED war, etc, and just want a cheap TV that will offer decent enough streaming performance and live TV, then TCL will do.
@michaelbeckerman75326 ай бұрын
And that's exactly the problem. Uninformed, uneducated US consumers don't actually do their homework before buying. They just march into a store and buy the cheapest thing off of the shelf. Companies like TCL, Hisense and Vizio only exist today for one reason: large numbers of very uneducated, uninformed consumers that only care about getting the cheapest price available. Sad.
@stuartstuart75145 ай бұрын
As someone who works in sales with TVs TCL is an easy sell. Not only do they undercut the larger band names and offer the same quality, the commission they pay is so much better than the traditional brand names that there is next to no point trying to upsell.
@MarcosCartridge6 ай бұрын
4:32 that works... It's still more expensive than every Meta Quest ever since the product itself is at minimum at 1.5K$ (let alone the software, and everything at cost)
@ShouPow5 ай бұрын
I love to see TCL and now Hisense dominating the budget and mid tv category. Now that vizio is bought by walmart, its wild to think they can now have a higher reputation than a big brand. Great to see huge reductions in LCD tvs. Cant wait for a similar time for OLEDs or some other self emmissive tech 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@Rgrog1026 ай бұрын
I bought a 55 TCL TV in 2023 the QLED C735
@epaper_eink6 ай бұрын
Not just TV's but they're innovating in phones and tablets too. I just bought the TCL nxtpaper 40. Excited to try it
@Connie_TinuityError6 ай бұрын
What TCL did to BlackBerry and Alcatel is completely unforgivable. There, in my personal opinion, is no coming back (or any sort of redemption) from that.
@yoppindia6 ай бұрын
their gamble did not pay off
@ahriboy6 ай бұрын
TCL should stick to main product, the TVs. I hope TCL should learn about hard competition from Transsion.
@2hotflavored6666 ай бұрын
What did TCL do?
@zigzag006 ай бұрын
I miss BlackBerry
@noahflare68256 ай бұрын
I have TCL 4k tv from 2019. It has mediocre image quality at an unbeatable price. Bought it as they are a big brand, so I am sure I can count on their warranty. TV still works to this day. Now we also have a TCL air conditioner and washing machine. GIve the people value for the price and they will flock to you in droves I guess.