The Lightest Production Road Bike Ever Made?! | GCN Tech Show Ep.146

[@gcntech]

What do you think? Have amateur riders got access to better tech than the pros? Let us know in the comments 👇

[@jetBlue083]

Does lighter = better?

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

Weight makes very little difference. It’s just for bragging rights at this point. This bike probably flexes like crazy anyway in a sprint.

[@valteraraujojr]

The frame is legal! There is a stamp from UCI. The weight is illegal. But Specialized says you can add a different thu axle in different material and heavier to reach the UCI minimum weight.

[@foidewall]

If you change the weight limit, the entry point to the competitive side of the sport will go up by allot, and you will start seeing bikes that can only last one season. Right now we are in a situation like the one in rowing, where scullers or bikes can last a long time, because you got a weight limit high enough, that producer can afford to ad extra material, for the durability of the product. So for most costumers, a not to low weight limit, will enhance the product the end user gets.

[@mr.piccolo186]

Not all riders can afford better tech! It is not a good selling point to have a bike that could cost more than a car... which is a far superior vehicle in almost every single way.

[@christoingram]

As an old man I can confidently state that the new Specialized is an old man 'status bike'

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

Honestly, how do old people ruin so many things by focusing on status?

[@inlovewithgoats1092]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles Everyone cares about status. Old people just have enough money to get the status objects they want.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@inlovewithgoats1092 Yeah that's really generational and probably based on where you are. When most people work minimum wage jobs around you, your status is stuff like have a home, working car. It's being able to pay basics, not buying an object to merely to show off wealth. I look at people like myself with a heavy load of college debt and I can't say I own anything that's status based. Maybe some clothing that feels like a requirement of maintaining my job. The few luxuries I buy are for me to enjoy and too small to really be meaningful like the bike in this video would be for displaying status.

[@inlovewithgoats1092]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles Not being able to afford status objects isn't the same as not caring about them. Also, at least among filthy rich people, this bike wouldn't be a status symbol at all, because it's no longer expensive to them.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@inlovewithgoats1092 It's not, but it isn't a ubiquitous value either.

[@Symbioticism]

For the average joe, the important aspects of the bike is that it is fun and reliable. After a certain level, you can do pretty much anything on your bike, so the performance gains seem arbitrary. Just smash out more watts to go faster, that is the ultimate status symbol.

[@DogeTrump]

7:43 The UCI could decide to remove the weight limit, but give a buffer of 1-2 years for bike manufacturers to adept to the new rules before actually removing the weight limit

[@tommccafferty5591]

Klein was the brannd of bike hanging on the wall in Jerry's apartment in Seinfeld.

[@tmbmtl]

They also had a Cannondale for a while.

[@ViveSemelBeneVivere]

I miss that show. And Everybody Loves Raymond. :-(

[@dh7314]

A green one if I recall

[@DavidWhiteOfFleet]

I hear that the GMN (Global Mustard Network) is the hot new thing!

[@surlyogre1476]

Spicy!

[@apj341]

my Felt F80 is mustard yellow !

[@davemoss6976]

The uci should impose a minimum weight for riders. say 85 kg, so then it would be possible to win top races and eat cake.

[@richdyer2000]

up that to about 88kg, and definitely.

[@Kim_Miller]

At last - 2020 turns up some sanity.

[@actualperson1971]

Let them have cake

[@mgrant6607]

@@JMacSp F1 and some motorcycle club racing classes have a minimum vehicle/rider weight. Since I'm 90 kg (thin), I'm thinking ~97-98 kg is the right number.

[@daveseemerollin6357]

I'm all for this haha, don't fancy being a stick man just to win races

[@ruffrydazz2032]

FYI, the frame is UCI approved. The factory build just comes in under the minimum weight.

[@krazed9918]

Yeah all this UCI illegal talk is odd, obviously this is a light frame but you can make this a UCI legal bike VERY easily with components.

[@galenkehler]

@@krazed9918 you spotted the controversial item in the show, they put these in to stimulate comments. Obv you can race it with the right build

[@JS-tb9hu]

So now this is their lightweight bike and the tarmac is their aero bike and the venge is dead?

[@lesflynn4455]

@@krazed9918 Oh shit. I'm the idiot who was sucked in and posted semi enraged comments about the lack of rim brakes and how it could have been lighter with blah blah. If only was an emoticon representing a forehead slap.

[@feedbackzaloop]

@@lesflynn4455 you mean this one?🤦‍♂️

[@lesflynn4455]

My first carbon bike was a 2010 Supersix. It was such a good bike. It was super easy to work on, with exposed cables etc. The only improvement would have been an external BB, but BB30 was a new thing. I loved that bike. This upgrade on the Supersix is delicious. That is a keeper. The dude who owns that bike should be happy with it for a very, very long time. It's not a cheap upgrade, but there's no need to replace a bike this good until something truly revolutionary comes along. Nice job.

[@TheMattist]

Manon's look to camera when Ollie is explaining how carbon fibre is made: "Hello darkness my old friend"

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

It makes you wonder how much he casually talks about carbon around the water cooler. I do enjoy listening to him though.

[@giggzgiggz1122]

I think she so cute.!

[@lossantoscity3249]

Its sometime hard to focus when Manon came since she looks like the Highschool girl crush of all. Older presenters and host have better delivery..cant really explain it but its like when watching Sir David Attenborough you understand everything he says he have that teacher Host Aura in him, While Manon is a really good host her face is distracting.

[@michaelskelton8516]

So right!

[@rabomarc]

Just to put things into proper perspective - 2015 top of the range Trek Emonda SLR10 weighed 4.88kg size 56 according to Trek.

[@arnoldszarins3200]

Rim brakes are just better

[@ianiscaratti4924]

the 2020 with dura-ace di2, clinchers, pedals, computer and 2 bottlecages is 6.6kg... where does trek claim that it was 4.88kg?

[@kidkarbon4775]

@@ianiscaratti4924 the 2015 Emonda SLR was a rim brake bike to hit that weight as established in the following review and many others. www.cyclist.co.uk/trek/emonda/52/trek-emonda-slr-review

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

@@kidkarbon4775 7-800 grams of weight savings on that were mostly from the wheels and saddle. Change the wheels and saddle, it's up around 5.7 kg.

[@rabomarc]

@@ianiscaratti4924 you still can get the specs off Trek's website if you search long enough: www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/%C3%A9monda/%C3%A9monda-slr/%C3%A9monda-slr-10/p/16197/ but actually some websites cite the weight to be 4.6-4.65kg.

[@Neil_down_south]

Threaded BBs making a comeback. Ditto quill stems. Next year... Caliper brakes ? Toe clips?

[@tesmith47]

some of us sstill use toe straps!!

[@raoulkoopman9408]

super light frames can give teams the option to add additional functionality to frames, ex. a dropper post.

[@tomahoks]

Raoul Koopman Do they use them?

[@roilev]

Droppers are for the spare bikes, to easily adjust the saddle height

[@roilev]

@R. Schowiada71 not for the spares, they are generic

[@Neil_down_south]

As lots of people have started or increased training during lockdown, I think GCN should do a series of specials on common cycling ailments with cause and treatment (both bike set up and medical). Eg knee pain, back pain etc.

[@anwargorham]

the frame is UCI legal, apparently. It’s all on the build for the total weight so can be build above 6.8 for racing

[@simfer7433]

Specialized: *evolving backwards* The public: OMG tAkE mY mOnEy

[@garygratzer9670]

The yellow fixy was absolutely super nice. Please!

[@LoganGauthier8]

Yellow might be one of my least favorite colors, yet that was such a super clean looking bike, it's an obvious super nice for me. The green Masi was the opposite of that bike and somehow got the super nice...I don't know what to think anymore.

[@PnlBtr]

Yeah I thought it was awesome. Super clean super fun build.

[@robbchastain3036]

It was stone cold immaculate.

[@mikekirtland7971]

Absolutely agree, so clean looking

[@denisspratt926]

There are actually weight restrictions on most types of Motorsport to. And also in some there are bhp restrictions. So it's not just in cycling there are restrictions for the manufacturers.

[@neil7769]

The point is that the weight restriction in this case is anachronistic and absurd.

[@denisspratt926]

@@neil7769 Yes but so are the weight restrictions in WRC, Le Mans Series and in F1. They can all easily make the cars lighter and still be safe.

[@neil7769]

@@denisspratt926 Is the reason the same, then? So that the manufacturers can sell heavier performace cars to consumers while claiming that they are the same as those used in racing? (edit: obviously not in F1).

[@denisspratt926]

@@neil7769 they don't actually make most of the cars they use in motorsport for sale to customers. You can't get a Ford Fiesta or VW Polo with 4wd or a Toyota TS050 Hybrid. So they should be allowed to build the most insane cars they can as long as they are safe to drive.

[@BenDitHC]

I am a former skaterboard professional i like the collabo kit. I ride now for abaout 6 years roadbike. I had never thought that a skateboard company would do this, because I don't meet any skateboarder who ride bike or had a roadbike in 30 years of skateboarding .great show have a nice day

[@bassbassbasser]

4:25 ollie knows how to impress a girl...

[@valteraraujojr]

The frame is legal! There is a stamp from UCI. The weight is illegal. But Specialized says you can add a different thu axle in different material and heavier to reach the UCI minimum weight.

[@jheal1977]

Tarmac SL7: one bike to rule them all, well apart from a bike that looks like an SL5 🤔.

[@KenSmith-bv4si]

Hey Manon & Ollie cool show. Specialized seems to be following the same marketing rules Porsche follows, less always cost more. You can buy a normal 911 for 100K but, the light weight version with no AC, stereo or seats without padding , always cost more ie less is always more.

[@GCNuser123]

yeah! great analogy! give me a cayman gt4!

[@hockeyiscanada]

Not even close lol go on ax-lightness website and they just came out with the Vial evo Disc 5,6kg with Red étap axs or Dura Ace Di2 and 5,4kg with Red 22 !! That's if we're talking about disc brakes. But, for rim brakes ax-lightness has had out the Vial evo Ultra for years already at 4,8kg with Red22 and if you swap the brakes and crank and put THM brakes and crank and carbon-ti chainrings the bike will be around 4,4kg !! GCN never talks about or shows complet ax-lightness bikes even when they go to euro bike, but they have always made the lightest production bikes in World and they make everything themselves.

[@hockeyiscanada]

@R. Schowiada71 wow, that's interesting to know, thanks !! I wonder if that means they don't sell enough bikes or they are not as good in managing their business. I always wondered why nobody has ever really put youtube videos to show of their ax lightness bike they bought. It makes me wonder if their bikes are worth the money.

[@jamesp.1784]

So its nearly as light as the Canyon Ultimate Evo of last year. The Canyon comes with SRAM Red 12 speed, Disk and integrated power meter.. the only thing is the Canyon cost £7.5k...

[@ArashFallah]

3:17 what can of worms? You mean they couldn't figure out a way that a $13,000 model would consistently pass a QC system on the tolerances of BB Shell? And they want our money regardless, eh?

[@faisal_al_saiful3838]

🤣🤣🤣🤣this comment is so accurate that i can't stop laughing

[@nocrs0659]

Or, people are just tired of complaining about pressfit BB. On almost every bike forum you can find people complaining why they would pay $11k+ for a bike with pressfit. Pressfit has a bad reputation, well deserve, maybe. But the current public consensus is that pressfit doesn’t belong on a $13k bike

[@faisal_al_saiful3838]

pressfit was never the problem,mate....poor building process is........bike engineering is getting so pathetic that they can't cut out two holes aligned? 🤣🤣......bike manufacturers are getting off the hook with their poor QC all the time

[@ArashFallah]

@@nocrs0659 fact: bearings for the threaded BB are press-fitted. All bearings are pressfit! How is it that you don't hear complaints about certain brands butt the rest?

[@nocrs0659]

I didn’t say pressfit was the problem, but the perception of pressfit BB is a problem. Whether that’s because of poor manufacturing tolerances, especially since just about all carbon frames are made by 5e same handful, of factories in Asia, or just a bad design, or simply pressfit just doesn’t work as well in a BB like it does in a hub or head tube. I really don’t know, and I really don’t care. The problem is the perception the pressfit BB have. Right or wrong, it is what it is.

[@oliverwarren1074]

That fixie bike was awesome, how was it not a super nice immediately? Its practically a work of art.

[@umTeacher01]

I'll be anxiously waiting for one of these Aethos pop up by Luscher's channel to see it from the inside. Btw charging 13k for a bike with threaded BB after years of awful QC is laughable to say the least, a silent confession of "we can't drill holes but check out this bling bike, now give us your kiss's college funds".

[@Swampster70]

There should be a limit of 6Kg set for the start of the 2021 season. Each year thereafter have the bike manufacturers that supply World Tour teams submit a few sample frames (ie The UCI take frames from team cars to rule out specially made frames) and test and reduce the weight limit by 100g each year IF safety checks pan out. Make it a sliding scale.

[@drjwbriand]

sl7 and aethos buyers: orthodontists/oral surgeons, cardiologists!

[@Qwerty-fy6fx]

Aka Freds

[@brahmanlewis3022]

😂😂😂

[@jbockrath1]

Went to the replay and I agree; The bell-ringing needs a little more oomph.

[@TarmacSkin]

Conventional Stem and Bars Simple 27.2 seattube Threaded BB Amazing Technology worth $12,000

[@GregorSrdic]

that yellow bike is obviously SUPERnice :O

[@reddevil211287]

The Specialized Allez E5 (Fulcrum Racing 5 and full 105) circa 2017 is the young man’s Aethos. ☺️🍻

[@CommaCam]

Well, the Aethos is a bit outside my budget, but as a home mechanic I certainly appreciate the threaded bottom bracket shell. More of that, please.

[@JanTrenson]

Unpopular opinion: The 6,8kg limit is one of the few good things in the UCI rule book. This has made the bike manufacturers focus on aerodynamics, and made room for power meters on pro bikes, which trickles down to us. When removed, weight would be, again, the sole focus. Because people still don't realise better aerodynamics (and even comfort) makes your bike much faster than a kilogram less does.

[@lechprotean]

all makes bikes more reliable. There's no going around the fact that ultra lightweght bikes are flimsy. Aero bikes are faster on everything but steep ascents so lightweight bikes are not for everyone...

[@arnoldszarins3200]

But what kind of riding? If you ride mountains and hills lighter is better

[@talos935]

I thought some pros did already run 'light' bikes, but had to put aditional weights on/in them For myself I feel it can help limit 'tech doping' by teams who can throw extra money at expensive superlightweight parts. If you remove all weight limits the team who can build an all carbon bike (incliding levers, derailiers and brake calipers). You've mentioned a £13,000(!) bike. I'd be interested to see further reserch into the 'weight weinie' theory, but also vs costs

[@Boopop1024]

Thank you GCN for giving me something to watch while I tidy the kitchen 🤪

[@Millistration]

This every time 🙌🏻😂

[@gefloigle]

“Welcome…to the GMN Show. Today, yellow mustard. Is it really French or not? Also, we’ll tell you the results of our GMN app poll how many of you went mustard, ketchup or plain. Stay tuned!” #turmericrules

[@Wildschwein_Jaeger]

If it is Frenches Yellow mustard than it is French?

[@gefloigle]

@@Wildschwein_Jaeger Stay tuned to find out!

[@Aditya-fv9xv]

Why not just buy a bike from 2015 for a third of the price which would still be a bit lighter than this thanks to the rim brakes on it

[@grandpalouis818]

Aditya less aero, less braking performance and less reliable shifting.

[@Aditya-fv9xv]

@@grandpalouis818 Yep. No idea why specialized actually commercialised this Lol

[@arnoldszarins3200]

Grandpa Louis More aero?😂😂 You maybe save 5watts at max riding at 30avg. Have you ever need that braking power? Me, no.

[@Anton-zb9dc]

Where is that aero on that climbing bike?

[@PrabuddhaDasGupta1966]

Honestly, going downhill on wet roads, my only real concern has been tire grip. Rim brake grip has never even crossed my mind.

[@DavidvdGulik]

The fact that Specialized is unable to make sure the bottom bracket shells on a €13000 bike are circular and left-right aligned is a disgrace. The fact that they're reverting to threaded bb because of it and shamelessly market it as an upgrade is even more disgraceful

[@OnCNCcom]

My sealed bearing threaded units have never failed despite chain rings and clusters lasting only 6 months and chains lasting 90 days before needing replacement. The 3rd chain skips under load on 6 month old chain rings. That is disgraceful, Shimano needs to do better.

[@rcworks9762]

@KZbin User Tried everything, posted pics of my Sachs 8 speed freewheel on the bicycling forum. These are steel gears and you can see were the chain has pressed flat spots on the gear teeth on every cog. The teeth on the chainrings are shark toothed. The crankset is Shimano Ultegra. My track bike doesn't have such problems after 6k miles. It's running Suntour cranks and rings and a suntour cog. Did I mention half my training is in the hills and I hit the Como Street ride weekly?

[@tesmith47]

@@Bungle2010 at that price , damn right i complain!!!

[@peterfinlayson1348]

I have a mate who became obsessed with weight. He put pressure on one of the well known German carbon bike manufacturers to build a frame 40 or so grams lighter than they said was the lightest they could build. He raced it and was riding back to the start when the fork collapsed at only 25kph or so and he nose dived, breaking his neck. That is why the rule exists and why it should continue to exist!

[@gordon415]

Ollie's accents are the best. I'd love to see him host an entire show doing a variety of American and other accents.

[@faisal_al_saiful3838]

i love how every manufacturer is putting threaded bb instead of pressfit nowadays to hide their quality control incompetence 🤭😆

[@drjwbriand]

i think your real name is "hambini"!!!! haha

[@faisal_al_saiful3838]

haha.......might or might not be.. but an engineering student definitely 😂😅

[@apair4002]

@@faisal_al_saiful3838 and you should know press fit against cfrp is not a good idea right?

[@teuast]

The only thing funnier than Olly’s “quacking” pun was Manon’s reaction to it.

[@sazaria80]

teuast the “look” manon did...

[@chrisbaum998]

After seeing the Yellow fixie maybe Ollie and Manon you need to add a new category, Super Nice, Nice and Weird???

[@Stewosch]

Why is the seatpost of the Aethos proprietory? 27.2 mm is pretty much the standard for seatposts. Or am I mishearing something?

[@charlificity]

10:39 The moment Manon is glad to have the COVID divider on set.

[@geoffbuck6865]

schotte: isn't she a sweetie ...

[@richardhudson4649]

Lighter top end bikes will trickle down to lighter bikes with Ultegra and 105. Many of us who ride 105, would love that.

[@jasonedward5161]

It’s a must for everyone!

[@jasperzhou5806]

I'm not sure, how is specialized justifying their price? It looks like an old-school bike, like a Cannondale SuperSix/CAAD of yester-year. It doesn't offer any integration or aero features of the SL7. It's just light? For a bike brand that admitted they were "part of the problem" of the "walled garden of exclusion, from the community to the lack of representation to the marketing" in the sport of cycling, this seems to run exactly opposite to what they so poignantly said a month or two ago on their Instagram. One of the largest bike brands in the world peddling a fairly basic road bike for the price of a new car is sure to enforce the notion cycling is exclusively for the rich to any new cyclist whether they be an under-represented minority, a broke college student or your average Joe trying to get into the sport of cycling. Quick spreadsheet I made comparing the Cannondale and Aethos: imgur.com/a/wQgxpyq . Admittedly, it's not very detailed and thorough since I made it in about 10 minutes during a study break, but it's just proving a point.

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

People just need to realize how little these weight differences make in the real world and that in almost all races, you're spending a large portion of time in a pack, making those marginal differences even less.

[@rah4981]

My match weight was 78 kg for many years. I now weigh 82 kg. My bike weight is 8 kg. If I loose 4 kilo, it will be like I'm riding a disc brake bike that weighs 4 kilo, new world record! No need to spend insane amount of money on a ultra light bike, just spend less money on food.

[@bengt_axle]

Rah well if you spend so much on a light bike you will not have much left over for beers and steak, so it all works out. You’ll be eating beans and rice and getting lighter. And then you become a vegan cycling influencer with 100k followers and start wearing Rapha. It’s all in the plan. Spend more on stuff that costs less to make.

[@stevek8829]

If

[@saturupiah5940]

I would be terrified riding the ultra-light Aethos on garbage roads. You break the frame then straight to the dentist.

[@adamsmith5770]

You joked about adding weights to a bike that is under the legal limit; this is what's done in kayak racing!

[@rickdoehler502]

Regarding the UCI question, @ grand tour level they should all be riding the same or a very tight design box.

[@jarrrrred]

building up to the introduction of graphene bikes i see!

[@andrewchow6357]

Specialized needs to release a alloy version of the aethos using their Smartweld technology. It would be similar to treks version on the Emonda (emonda alr). I reckon it would be a hit and would definitely be affordable for the general public.

[@michaelc8605]

Bike vault with Manon & Ollie is so different to Conor & Ollie. Conor is like the UCI with his rules. Which I got to admit is equally as entertaining.

[@zauberwort]

Weight and Cannondale, although not connected in this case, bring back memories: Legalize my Cannondale!

[@leissp1]

The UCI stifles innovation. More concerned about sock height, where the stripes are on your sleeve, what the kit looks like than rider safety and tech innovations to make cycling better. Ollie quacks me up. Finally the plexiglass barrier is protecting Mannon from Ollies hair virus.

[@Aubreykun]

Exactly.

[@dcrunicycles]

gcn do you have any videos on how much a sprinter flexes their frames in the last 10M of a bunch sprint? the forces must be huge?

[@Aubreykun]

Have you guys seen the new Aerothan tubes from Schwalbe? Any info on them?

[@welshgreek1252]

That’s a big rock on Manon’s engagement finger!!!!! Who’s the lucky man.... Hank??????

[@maxrevell3830]

The Aethos is not illegal; the frame is UCI approved but you would have to add ballast to get it to the minimum weight. At that point, very few pros would choose it as it has no aero advantages. Even if you were to allow it to race with its weight advantage, not "all the pros would switch to it" apart from for some mountainous stages for the same reason. Ollie has been telling us for aeons that aero is (a)everything and now says all he wants is the lightest bike out there.

[@Not_Sure_]

If you're not racing, or climbing mountains, all you really need is a bike with a single chainring(48t), with 7 speed freewheel/cassette(13-28t), like a Shimano Tourney. A basic bike weight could be about 20 lbs. Alloy frame, carbon fork, 25c tires, tubes, with basic clincher wheels rim brakes.

[@SebBrosig]

UCI limit lowers the bar for poorer teams. It's a good thing. Same thing happens in other sports, F1 etc. Levels the playing field, while maintaining safety, and keeping the sport interesting.

[@danc1829]

Be even lighter if it came with rim brakes. Looks specialized have built a giant TCR 😉

[@reginaldscot165]

I saw a meme on IG that said that 😂

[@andreoberholster9250]

Would you make the Aethos a 1X (if you are a lazy shifter) and would you recommend the Sram Red Etap 1X12

[@vonvaderham4774]

I just bought myself a pair of full carbon 'Fast forward' wheels. Has anyone ever used any fast forward wheels before, if not I would highly recommend they are so light and fast it's almost terrifying.

[@TwoBlockAnime]

Which model did you buy? I'm thinking between the f3a and tyro for my gravel bike since they look fantastic and seem to be of high quality.

[@vonvaderham4774]

@@TwoBlockAnime Mine are Road F6D tubular. but i would 100% recommend they work like a dream. and look fantastic. also they are very well built. (from my opinion) but probably better to ask some one with more experience with them because i only bought them 3 weeks ago.

[@vonvaderham4774]

@@TwoBlockAnime ops got it wrong its the F6R just realised

[@TwoBlockAnime]

@@vonvaderham4774 Wow expensive, I'm on a budget myself but I'm hoping the wheels are as great as you describe them. Have a blast with your rides!

[@vonvaderham4774]

@@TwoBlockAnime yeah one of my club mates had them and didn't use them. because i was racing this year he gave me them for a discounted price which was good. But i would defiantly recommend them for any one.

[@Tuuhura]

Must say I don't wake early in the morning thinking about the UCI!

[@dannystaten5701]

I think that if the UCI gave teams a notice that a lower weight limit is coming in a year or two would give bike manufacturers time to work on an update and most teams would end up on similar ground again. I'd like to see a lower limit set.

[@betosaltarelli]

Manon`s notebook is so clean :)

[@Lestalad1961]

The geometry looks remarkably similar to that of my four year old Felt F series frame. Yippee 🙌 I’m back on trend 🤣😂

[@jameslee-pevenhull5087]

When I, park my bike at the cafe, the others walk straight past the modern plastic bikes to inspect my Jacques Esclassan 1977 Peugeot PY10.

[@pantster9855]

Bikes are merging again, aero bikes can hit 6.8kg now. If the UCI dropped the weight limit to say 5.8kg and also revised the rules on tube shapes (which is rumoured they are going to do) then it could lead to manufacturers producing separate aero and lightweight bikes again, you won't get an aero bike down to 5.8kg but they can make a lightweight bike at that weight. Pro's will really have a choice. Could see the Venge come back

[@robbchastain3036]

It rhymed with her name when Manon said 'fan on' and it could be a hit with the indoor set, the Manon Fanon.

[@nelsonb7809]

What I don’t understand is that on the website they go on and on about it being super light and it breaks all the rules and it’s too light for UCI specs but yet when you look at the photos when you try to purchase one of those bikes, they put the UCI stamp on the seat tube 🤔 so if I wanted to buy which I can’t afford it anyway I would want it without the UCI stamp...

[@florenceetalexismartel8365]

It was in the uci's agenda to drop the 6.8kg limit ... but it didn't happen (yet?), and I wonder if the bike manufacturers not blocking it (and not the uci ...). First because the project was to replace the weight limit by a test of 'resistance' and it may be expensive to put in place, second because majority of the bike manufacturers are struggling to produce a road disk bike at 6,8kg (Pinarello, Bianchi, Cannondale...) and lower the limit would push the pros to go back to rim brakes ... Am I wrong ?

[@rob-c.]

The Aethos is legal (UCI approved frame) - just not in the stock build, weight limit wise. Considering frame weight alone, a lot of the bikes ridden in UCI races would be illegal if you built them with light enough parts - just look at the hill climb bikes we see.

[@djconnel]

In the US, at most 1% of amateurs are subject to UCI regulations (only races qualifying for Worlds or Olympics or UCI-sanctioned events), so 6.8 is irrelevant. But this bike is a boat-anchor compared to the 2012-2013 Cannondale Evo stock build. Disc brakes are heavy.

[@afterburn2600]

How was the yellow fixie not a super nice? I mean, nothing was stock (a usual requisite is to have modified the bike in some way), valves were perfectly in line, no logos on tires (tyres for you?) so perfectly aligned, yellow - otherwise known as bright and slightly light gold chain (boom), matching bar tape, matching saddle, matching tyres (tires?), flat black paint, biggie smalls (only onlies really), crank aligned, no stove pipe, and straight on shot from the drive side. It hits all the marks.

[@martinth2529]

How many times I need to post pictures of my bike on GCN app to eventually being featured in the Bike Vault, Olie???

[@seniorcycling5352]

Patator if it’s not over 5 grand with Di2 you won’t even get a look

[@seniorcycling5352]

My bike is beautiful , all carbon, love it honestly couldn’t ask for more, fantastic bike but it has a 105 group set , automatically never making the bike vault

[@martinth2529]

@@seniorcycling5352 well, I've seen a few 105's and even Tiagra's being featured previously. I think neither one likes a true bike manufacture- Bianchi or Colnago. My guess is the more boring and generic brands are better suited for their taste.;)

[@DavidCulbertson]

With this episode, I'm 3 for 3 on my submissions.

[@andrewwhite1065]

Threaded bottom bracket on the Specialized bike might increase frame stiffness. The guy in the pic looked to have a frame that was far too small. 4 grand for the lightest commuter frame, a set of Dura-ace disk brakes and clip-on mudguards and im set.

[@RubenJFernandes]

Of course that orbea will be in the bike vault

[@skagern]

If they could introduce strength requirements and certification by crash/overload tests that could result in some interesting designs. But it would be impossible to check for race organizers. All the structural components like frames, wheels, handlebars etc. would also have to be certified individually and modifications would be banned since it would invalidate the certification. It would also probably add a lot of cost.

[@kaupo80]

According to Olly, it would be economcally feasible for the bike companies to ditch the weight limit and start producing £10000 bikes for the wideopen market :) Just to be clear: price and weight are inversly, price and demand are also inversly related, meaning that weight and demand should be proportionally related.

[@pauleddy5146]

If the UCI adopts a different weight limit, all sponsor manufacturers already have lower weight examples ready. They actually have for years. Some as long as a decade. The fact that they haven't been marketed to the general population has always surprised me. Manufacturers need the UCI to announce the new weight limit before they can bring that bike out, adjusted to the new limit. Most are already able to produce sub 5.5kg, but may not handle the wattage output of a professional.

[@mark950-d7d]

Isn't rotating weight that matters, tires, rims, pedals, shoes. You could have two bike that weigh the same and the steel frame with with world's lightest tires, rims, pedals, shoes. It would ride much nicer than a super carbon frame, fork, handlebar, stem and seatpost (all carbon) with really heavy tires, rims, pedals, shoes. I have a Campy Atlanta rim at home and I think it weighs close to 600 grams. Combine that with Cycle Binding pedals and shoes. They were only available in the states. If I can get hold of a pare, I will send them to you for review. The pedals and shoes where listed at 567 grams, but I swear they were much heavier than that.

[@richardclayton2208]

i think a minimum weight limit for racing is necessary but i do think it could be lowered considerably to reflect modern technological advancement.

[@letsif]

All competitors should ride the exact same bike, no matter what weight. All equal and let the best rider(s) win.

[@Steve-Riverwood]

Me looking at the new Specialized Aethos - "thinking about how i am convince the missus, that daddy needs a new bike instead of us getting at new roof that is'nt as leaky as the old one".

[@Cesarhernandez-wv3do]

Is the UCI holding back development? Recumbent says hello.

[@daveseemerollin6357]

Yeah if you want to look like a bloody wally

[@saintuk70]

Founder's Edition - is this an nVidia 3080 launch?

[@Neil_down_south]

UCI should strip out loads of regs. Would allow creativity, even by smaller teams. Graham obree style!

[@LeoInterHyenaem]

I don't like dropped seat stays. I like the Aeos look: it resembles the Genesis Datum minus versatility. While only semi-useful, it is a very pretty bike, indeed.

[@izi941]

9:30 that kit is ducking quackers

[@GregLanz]

Not surprising that most helmets are less than 2 years old, I get the impression from the polls and feedback that most GCN subscribers have been riding less than two years

[@andymackellar]

by the time you add a proper bell I am sure it will make the 6.8kg ;-)

[@LoLo-qo8hy]

17:36 Ollie: screaming at himself 😂🙏🏾

[@Sills71]

The problem with the Specialized (and other expensive carbon bikes) is that they are dramatically over priced for what you get. The marketing for bikes is the same as for Coach purses. The high price makes them status objects. And stupid people buy them.