What is the best drag gearing for Arrma limitless v1?
@RCexplained2 ай бұрын
Depends on your setup. Best way to determine this is by testing a bunch of gears and choosing the fastest one. You can start your selection with a top speed calculation and go from there.
@ramos.nitrorc11 ай бұрын
if im runnning a castle 1717 1650kv on the v2 roller, what is a good gearing setup for bashing and drag? I have a 32t pinion would be running 8s currently..
@RCexplained11 ай бұрын
This is really a personal preference based on your setup and running conditions.
@DoubleJayyy Жыл бұрын
Im having an issue with my v1 😢i have a 1717 motor withVERY good cooling fans, the Castle mamba 8x paired with two 4s batteries with a 120c rating... i even have a cap pack on it and i cannot seem to hit more than 80mph ! Can you advice pleaseeeeeeee?
@1521joe Жыл бұрын
you fix the issue yet? did you check your TX ?
@thor1911.4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, dude. It's been a headache trying of figure out what Pinion gear to get. This video helped a lot
@RCexplained4 ай бұрын
Glad the video could help
@DonChilon210 Жыл бұрын
Whats a good gearing for the 2400kv CC. Currently at 45/28 limitless v2 i get excessive amps. I noticed when i had new foams it doesn't take the punch drag hit off the line but when i put some used foams and do a drag hit screams off the line. Any 411 is welcome
@SubZ3ro9074 ай бұрын
I geared mine at 28/46 and and when i ran it, i only got 91 mph, and the motor was only heating up to 88⁰ F. I am using 2 CNHL 5600mah, packs. Since it wasnt heating up, i changed the gearing to 30/44. I havent tested it yet tho. Im really starting to get frustrated with it. I cant find any tutorials at all on how to read the XLX2's data logs. You should do a video on that. I think ALOT of people would benefit from that kind of info.
@RCexplained4 ай бұрын
Hello, I have done a couple video on reading data logs. Did you see those videos by chance? And what specifically are you not understanding well in the logs? You could email a log to me and I can make a video of it and post it here.
@DetoursRC Жыл бұрын
Just bought the v2 roller and got the castle 2028 1700kv with xlx2. Im gonna start as low as I can with the 39t and its probably gonna be pretty damn fast. 46t spurs are available though.
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Yep. I can't remember what I went with but it's installed and ready to rip.
@Nathan-qt2zi Жыл бұрын
30/40 1650 kv 👌
@MaPf818 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever look in the manual page 19? There is a nice table with possible gear combination for all 3 different motor mounts and default spur gears.
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
That chart shows the limitations. I can't remember what I said in the video but I do know that the smallest pinion with the largest spur gear is no where close to where this motor needs to be for the more typical setup. I believe the chart would show something like 32/39 as the largest ratio. That is 1.22:1, crazy !!!
@MaPf818 Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained limitations, yes. Why did you print all these gears below 32T then? 39T spur gear matches to 32T-52T pinion gear. If the table would be wrong, ok. But wasting all this time to show the obvious? Easy result: use low Kv motors.
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting to replace the $240 speed run motor for a lower Kv motor? Wouldn't getting the right gearing be a lot more sensible and cost effective? Not to mention high Kv motors such as the one going to be used are purposely designed for speed run cars.
@MaPf818 Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained I would suggest to not waste 1/4 of your video to demonstrate the obvious AND THEN switch to "calculation" for the really working stuff. If you want to reuse your $240 speed run motor (oh, so expensive, you will never buy a new one, LOL), change to spur gear XYZ. And, since when are you forced to use 100% throttle??? Also, there is a reason why ARRMA designed it like this which you happily ignore.
@BMAC9164202 жыл бұрын
I have the Limitless V2 with 1717 and xlx2 and 39p/34s and esc keeps beeping one short 2 long beeps. Is it overgeared??? Cuts off after one run...
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
I believe that beep code is excessive load. It detects this by current spikes. What theoretical speed are you geared for?
@BMAC9164202 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained I just used the chart that came in the box with the Limitless not sure what's going on...
@guitarzzero Жыл бұрын
SAGA r/c has 8mm mod1 pinions/spurs that will work for rhe gear on the spool. I’ve used the Arrma spool gears on an Xmaxx.
@williamheidbrink24119 ай бұрын
I got a v2 limitless I will be running a max5 esc and a 1100kv motor on 8s gearing i got is a 34-39 does that sound like it would work
@RCexplained9 ай бұрын
I don't have the patreon Calc sheet up but that should be a fast setup. I also don't know how good that esc is. Never used one.
@DetoursRC Жыл бұрын
34t spur/27t pinion with the 1717 1650 motor was the smallest that would fit my infraction. I guess the motor mount on the v2 is different?
@DetoursRC Жыл бұрын
I was suprised. I thought id be able to use the same gearing as my infraction but nope.
@martins2657 Жыл бұрын
Hello, i hesitating about buy Limitless V2 and put there 1650Kv big Block castle motor from XO-1 with Max6 ESC. Is possible to fit smallest 32T pinion with stock 39T spur, when 49mm diameter motor is installed? I will run only on 6S as maximum. Mostly 4S. Im not sure that 32/39 combination is for 40-49 whole range of motor diameters. I Know that for 56mm motor is 32 so small, bud im not sure in 49.
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Hey Martin, if you download the manual from the website for the v2, pg 19 has a chart with specs that may help you out. At least you'll have more insight as to what size and gears are possible.
@SimeonSales7 ай бұрын
You are spot on!!! I had a 2850 kv tp power motor in my limitless V2 I had issues so I had to get a 1100 spcktrum firma 8s and I’m getting 123 mph 34 pinion 39 spur mamba monster x 8s esc
@rtz549 Жыл бұрын
Are just gear sizes needing to be made? Or a mount issue?
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Just need larger spool gears. We can get larger 8mm bore pinion gears to work.
@UAERCADDICTS Жыл бұрын
Very nice information appreciate your effort
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment!
@sheharyarirfan Жыл бұрын
How are you getting almost double the speed? I'm using other calculators and its telling me 122mph for the same calculation you did
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
What values are you entering in?
@nopainnostain11 ай бұрын
I have to admit, I was not happy when I found this out. Esp since arrma has done nothing to resolve the issue. { larger spool gears]. I decided to go with the Trident drive shafts and spools Gonna add a 48 tooth gear. Like you said, give it some versiltality. Great video! And great info!!
@ZSMracing2 жыл бұрын
That’s weird I wonder if they changed the v2 motor mount I had a 1717 with a 27/34 gearing it barely made a good mesh but still that’s a crazy difference
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
yes, mount is different
@casconie2 жыл бұрын
scorched parts Roto-lok Motormount solves this variable issue perhaps.🤷♂
@Chris-adams-rc-journey2 жыл бұрын
Best motor mount in the game IMHO
@RittenhouseLifestyle7Ай бұрын
I was told on my build. I have a GT Chassis V2 limitless. Never ran YET. I am going for a single motor world record. 😂. I am ! Don’t laugh! 😂. But a 34T and 45T gear for the 2.8 ratio diff with a locker in the rear. On a xlx2 2028 castle 1700kv. On BSR Foams. What are yall thoughts? I also of course have a PP CF GT Driveshaft kit. PPS motor mount. PP Carbon fiber kit. Titanium shock standoffs. Speedrun springs. fc100 body. Let me know?
@marcosdesiderio3490 Жыл бұрын
I have a v2 with a xl2 800kv hw 56 pinion doing 111 how can i go faster p.s. im new at this
@adams92772 жыл бұрын
I changed my spool to a 40 tooth on my V1 and a 42 tooth on my V2. That opened up my gearing options. They are not on Horizon’s website. If you get on eBay you can find them
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
I have a 42T on the V1. Will have a 44T or 45T on the V2. It's in the mail still.
@skater21jlg Жыл бұрын
I have the 46 t spool with a 27t pinion gear and I’m hitting 111 mph XLX2 and tp 4070 2200 kv motor 🎉 finding longer street still can do little bit more
@Das_Lucifer2 жыл бұрын
Easy fix… pps mount… EMP mount…. Scorched mount. Most of us ditch factory parts
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
Do they make V2 parts already? I don't think different mounts are necessary. I can just swap gears and I'm good.
@markakkerman-uc5li Жыл бұрын
I just love my scorched mount. It’s a thing of beauty, just another level compared to other brands. Zero flex in the motor to the chassis and every time a perfect mesh without change after screwing it tight.
@markmathews5117 Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained You are right. V2 stock mount I can use between 22 to 43 tooth pinions using a 49 tooth 8mm pinion as a spur gear. 2200kv. Haven't tested but looking for a 100mph or so to start with. Thank you for your help.
@toysforboysrc Жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem with my V1 Skyline Limitless! DID YALL KNOW that the motor plate from the Felony and Infraction is a DIFFERENT motor plate?! I found that out through the ARRMA Forum… with the felony motor plate, you’ll be able to have a minimal total tooth count of 62. If you search for buying that motor plate, there is NO specific information on the product description about those detail! It will only say.., “ fits the Felony Infraction ” good luck guys💪💪
@JoevsRc2 жыл бұрын
After your explanation you should do a run and compare. Things on paper always look easier then the real world.
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
Joe, I can only picture the snow flying in the air as my V2 Limitless clears a path!
@JoevsRc2 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained hahaha that would be awesome! Send it! Where are you located?
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
Toronto Area.
@Yay-hovah Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained I thought I heard a Canadian accent.
@rpmwithabdullah34738 ай бұрын
Best rc channel
@RCexplained8 ай бұрын
You are so kind! I'm trying but don't think I'm there yet!
@jnljnl84852 жыл бұрын
I'm still amazed nobody has brought a CVT transmission to the hobby market yet
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
There really isn't much of an advantage in a CVT for what we do but it would be cool to see!
@six50motors10 ай бұрын
Just ran into this issue with my v2 roller smallest gear I can go with is 32 Im running a 1717 1650kv motor now that I see it's geared for 140 I'm like wow I don't need that much speed
@RCexplained10 ай бұрын
Yep, swap out the spur gear as I've done in a later video
@Mike625012 жыл бұрын
Thank for down load Excel spreadsheet ❤
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@PigglyWigglyDeluxe Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 48t spur on mine. Saga.
@bce.gatien2 жыл бұрын
is the Center Diff, 46T compatible on the Limitless V2 ? ARA310989. With some reassembly to accommodate the shorter dog-bones ?
@paulclancy24042 жыл бұрын
Should work no mods
@cacanjacowans5402 жыл бұрын
No... diff mount spacing is different on the V2 than the V1
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
It's not on the optional parts list for the V2 Limitless. It also looks like if it did work it would need to be altered as the V2 has an extended length center shaft. Take a look here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpC8g5egpL2tb9E
@tktk-om8cg Жыл бұрын
I'm dropping xlx2 1100kv castle 2028 in mine but I plan on smoking the tires and bashing with it
@1521joe Жыл бұрын
did the 1100kv motor fit>? i thought the 1100kv was 112mm long. thanks
@tktk-om8cg Жыл бұрын
@@1521joe I have the v2 version it fits
@1521joe Жыл бұрын
@@tktk-om8cg perfect thanks for the feedback.
@tktk-om8cg Жыл бұрын
@1521joe oh yeah, I, just updated to 2028 1700kv and it's stupid fast 130mph and barely did full throttle
@OmarGreeneotraPedroVerde2 жыл бұрын
As always, an excellent video and very good spreadsheet. I'm attempting a world speed record with a 3S 2WD Rustler. It should come in handy.
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
Go for it! I hope you get it. Thanks for the comment!
@1521joe Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained hi, im just getting around to building this car, im thinking am 1100kv castle motor, with stock spur, and 34t pinion, giving 111mph would be a good choice, based on the calculator.....thoughts?
@AquariumAficionado9 ай бұрын
I’m going for world record 2wd slash👀 got a 1717 1650kv in it paired with mamba monster x 8s Pushing 45 right now on 4s with conservative gearing 26/58
@natethegreat5348 ай бұрын
1:1 gearing works for me lol hitting 147mph
@RCexplained8 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@Soilhalo772 жыл бұрын
Could just watch Raz Shifrin he’s used this motor and gone through the spurs and pinions to see what it can do
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
Raz is a professional who sets up his vehicle perfect based on many factors. If the average top speed guy duplicates his efforts it can be successful. If not, it could be costly $$$
@Soilhalo772 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained Agreed, but imo you have (although I get your explaining the many factors involved and your teaching in a way) over complicated things. Your using a motor that comes with a disclaimer from Castle that, if anything goes boom you have no warranty! You could stick a MAX6 and a 1650 from Hobbywing and as you have just said "Raz who's a pro" be way safer and if anything goes boom your more than likely covered by warranty. You see so many Castle systems catching fire so if your making it safe for your average person with little knowledge of speed running surely it makes sense to go with a far less sensitive system that can handle mistakes or not?
@biggnasty98910 ай бұрын
So, its been over a year. Is there a known technique to fabricate something so I can drop in a standard 50t diff out of the Arrma 6s line? This is BS, I dont want to go more than 110mph. I want a street basher that is an F1 type car, and the lack of a large spur forces you into having a straight speed run car. What about the rest of us? Anyone got anything solid? If not I'm hitting EBAY to find a used V1 instead of a new V2
@RCexplained10 ай бұрын
I can't think of any advantage of a V2 over a V1 for what you plan to do with it. Either way, I'm sure you can plan a power system to do what you are looking for.
@biggnasty98910 ай бұрын
@@RCexplained I did some research and what I found is that if you get shafts from scorched rc, you can use the 50t center diff in the V2. I saw a video that was just wicked. I also watch their group live chat, and this is the real deal. I ordered the limitless V2 because of this one video! Why didn't you do an update video on this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnvId2CGaaetarM
@RCexplained10 ай бұрын
When you originally said diff, this threw me off. The Limitless does not use a center diff and as such I was thinking front/rear. Completely changing out the center spool drive seems like the most expensive option to put a weaker solution in there. I'm referring to MOD 0.8 pitched gearing. The shafts themselves will be strong. I did do an update video on this a week or two after the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5Kxd5V9p6-Hg9E This solution will allow for a 45T pinion used as a spur gear. I have not tested anything larger. But as I said in my first message, I don't see how this (cheaper solution) would not work for you. Somewhere around 4s 1800Kv using 27/45 gearing should get you around 65mph top speed.
@biggnasty98910 ай бұрын
@@RCexplained And don't get me wrong, I respect your work. I just thought that all options would be on the table. I've learned that this hobby needs deep pockets to "do what you want". Although the gearing is "weaker" on mod 0.8, it should still get the job done. I've never stripped gears unless the motor moves. Titanium motor mount screws are mandatory on all builds. The option to tune the center diff would making cornering more pleasurable in my view. 24t pinion with a 50t center diff should be a tire smoking, drifting, hard accelerating monster. This is where we diverge on opinion. I'm also looking at designing a 3d printed bolt on floor to get high downforce without the drag with weather stripping side skirts. I don't know if you're into that, but when Arrma used the term "Limitless" I take that to heart.
@patrickrobinson59 Жыл бұрын
Change out the motor mount
@rcbustanut20572 жыл бұрын
Great info! 😎 👍 I wonder if they changed the mount on the v2. I have the v1 limitless & a Typhon 6S. I'm currently running the 1721 2400kv in the Typhon 6S & I'm running a 40T spur with a 34T pinion. It fits perfectly, but it's also the largest gear combo I can squeeze in there. As for spur gears, I use Saga gears, I just adjust the spacing by adding a washer to the spool. I did a video earlier this summer covering how to modify the spool to fit the 8mm bore Saga gear onto it.
@RCexplained2 жыл бұрын
Mount on the V2 is changed. I used 8mm Mod1 pinions as spools. works well and will have to do this on the V2 as well.
@ВиталийАдаричев-н8т Жыл бұрын
С таким мотором, мощная, скоростная машинка
@BOBBEATS504 Жыл бұрын
Love castle
@kkendall99 Жыл бұрын
Your not taking into consideration voltage drop, even with the best batteries you will never hit even close to those theoretical speeds.
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Hello, voltage drop is considered, you must have missed it.
@kkendall99 Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained That may be but your numbers are still off, I have this RC and I would love it to go past 200 mph but this is not easy and the difference in gearing between V1 and V2 is not a big deal and if it were the gears are cheap compared to a big block motor, ESC, batteries and the other small details that are required.
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
What are you entering in to the calculator? Send me a screenshot and I can help.
@peteroman42972 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out “Raz Shifrin’s” videos? I think he’s actually gotten up to like 200mph on his Limitless. He does a lot of tweaking his builds to try to get the best top speed possible. 🤷🏻♂️👍💯
@hnic722 жыл бұрын
I don't believe raz has hit 200mph. James McCoy is the speedrun 👑 and he's hit 204mph a few times and in a much shorter distance than raz has
@Soilhalo772 жыл бұрын
198 I think he’s hit or 199 . I know in one of his recent videos (last few months) he hit that high speed
@peteroman42972 жыл бұрын
@@Soilhalo77 yeah, it’s something up there around the 200 mark. 198? 200? 🤷🏻♂️ I know he didn’t make it past 200, that I know but what’s his best pass is up there somewhere between 197-200.🤷🏻♂️
@peteroman42972 жыл бұрын
@@hnic72 but there is a guy who actually broke the worlds record recently. I don’t know if his name is James McCoy. I just know that it was broken recently in the past several months.🤷🏻♂️💯🙂
@BOBBEATS504 Жыл бұрын
Go
@1521joe Жыл бұрын
use a lower kv motor like the spektrum 1250 kv or castles 1100 kv( if it will fit) problem solved, but you want the 2400kv motor so swop the spool gear out
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Did you find the newer videos I did of this car?
@1521joe Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained I looked for a video of you running this car, but can't find it. I'm particularly interested in this build.