‘The Line’-Twenty One Pilots: PRO VOCAL COACH REACTION

[@lena__lu]

1:15 just a disclaimer: twenty one pilots is really anti-ai, when it comes to creating art. Same with the entire production of the show "arcane" (you can see visuals in the back of the live performance). The show and the music videos are created by really talented people!

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

Thanks for the correction. Cool to know all of that art was handmade. 👊🏼🔥

[@jtg4416]

I've heard Tyler sing live and even with the pitch correction in this performance it still wasn't very far off from his natural voice he has an amazing falsetto

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

No doubt. That’s why it’s even crazier he would use auto tune.

[@jtg4416]

@@TimWelchVocalStudio probably just for continuity a lot of people at the game awards had no idea who TOP or tyler were so they probably wanted it to sound similar to the studio/show version

[@Goddess_Moros]

it fits it thematically to the character and album he is playing right now. He has used digital effects on his vocals live and recorded to greatly characterize different perspectives and identities throughout his and the drummers work. The Line here could also be represented with having an off pitch, so the character he is playing right now would both use their vocal ablity to try to sing it perfectly but also use autotune to mask any inperfections. This is Clancy, a character defined by both joy and honesty but using an understanding of fear to push farther. The album "I am Clancy" is both the catchiest and the most explict to the broadest audience. Acting as a map with a legend.

[@angiehh516]

Tyler Joseph is my favorite vocalist and lyricist. He is so unique. No one sounds like him. I’ve seen him so many times in concert and he’s one of those guys who sounds just as good live as on the album. ❤

[@jadendeans8585]

I would absolutely love to see you do more twenty one pilots and tyler especially :)

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

Any requests for songs?

[@brnogd]

@@TimWelchVocalStudio in this song he goes a lot into falsetto, another songs he goes into falsetto is Holding on to you and Vignette, definitely should check that out!

[@jadendeans8585]

@TimWelchVocalStudio I always recommend some live performances for them Holding onto you, live at fox theatre is a song from a concert in 2015 with Josh and shows their energy on stage kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXK6eaCPmZWEq6Msi=KriR5PGrMVS1x6-G Smithereens live with just him and the piano while he was doing a small show reconstructing songs is a nice listen kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5SzdqZtnLmoh5osi=ijz9gpv1b_jWFWOK And lastly, if you want some technicalities in how he works with music and making songs, there is The Hype, location sessions Berlin, where he rented out a studio in Germany to remake the song The Hype, although it might be best to listen to the original song to understand how different they are and it's NOT a live performance kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXm4couDq9mNrLcsi=xkgKnrI_hU3xAMdM

[@jadendeans8585]

@TimWelchVocalStudio I always recommend some live performances for them Holding onto you, live at fox theatre is a song from a concert in 2015 with Josh and shows their energy on stage kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXK6eaCPmZWEq6Msi=KriR5PGrMVS1x6-G Smithereens live with just him and the piano while he was doing a small show reconstructing songs is a nice listen kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5SzdqZtnLmoh5osi=ijz9gpv1b_jWFWOK And lastly, if you want some technicalities in how he works with music and making songs, there is The Hype, location sessions Berlin, where he rented out a studio in Germany to remake the song The Hype, although it might be best to listen to the original song to understand how different they are and it's NOT a live performance kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXm4couDq9mNrLcsi=xkgKnrI_hU3xAMdM

[@jadendeans8585]

@TimWelchVocalStudio I always recommend some live performances for them Holding onto you, live at fox theatre is a song from a concert in 2015 with Josh and shows their energy on stage kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXK6eaCPmZWEq6Msi=KriR5PGrMVS1x6-G Smithereens live with just him and the piano while he was doing a small show reconstructing songs is a nice listen kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5SzdqZtnLmoh5osi=ijz9gpv1b_jWFWOK And lastly, if you want some technicalities in how he works with music and making songs, there is The Hype, location sessions Berlin, where he rented out a studio in Germany to remake the song The Hype, although it might be best to listen to the original song to understand how different they are and it's NOT a live performance kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXm4couDq9mNrLcsi=xkgKnrI_hU3xAMdM

[@Ladybassguitarplayer]

I love 21 Pilots. I remember when they came out! I was an immediate fan. I love that you do so many different genres.

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

Thanks! Yeah they are a super interesting music project. 🙏🏼✨

[@sunlithollow]

just found your channel, having a fun time going through the videos! kind of unrelated rec for a band you might like: the amazing devil! they've got a ton of very amazing songs and I'd love to see more people listen to them. a few songs of theirs I like: "the horror and the wild", "secret worlds", and "farewell wanderlust"!

[@FleaÉire]

Glad to know it did have pitch correction for sure. I still love the song so much. I heard it before the official version of it and would love for them to do a full orchestra album on vinyl with this song on it. I understand they have it on as it was for the Game Awards and because it’s for Arcane. He for sure sings live at their concerts. Would love to hear him sing this live. Hopefully they’ll be in Ireland in 2025/2026

[@carenecitter2435]

Please check out the reimagined version of their songs from the Brooklyn sessions live performance if you haven’t already.

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

Will do, thanks.

[@girlwithnoname956]

​​@@TimWelchVocalStudioThe Reconstruct Sessions in Brooklyn feature 5 songs. Ride, My Blood, Chlorine, Cut My Lip and Smithereens. I believe 2 songs were similar to the album (Smitherines and Chlorine, I believe) and 3 were "reconstructed", so they are different from the album versions (and different from the BBC Radio one versions that someone else recommended).

[@faigler]

(As a side note, this entire soundtrack is fantastic. It's funny because I love Arcane but I don't play League of Legends at all...but the songs written for/with LoL, or used by them, even not just on these two seasons, are ALWAYS phenomenal to the point that I'm just like "okay, fine".)

[@lianneweltz2398]

It's seriously hard not to cry. It's not auto tune it's Tylers perfect voice

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

I did a pitch analysis and there is zero doubt in my mind it’s auto tuned. I show it in my vid over on PATREON. Regardless, I still am a huge fan of him and the song. ✨🙏🏼

[@Mein-z4w]

Arcane has a lot of really great songs! The other two songs from this same performance were great too. I also do like it when you point out pitch correction etc. because I don't know enough about that to necessarily notice it by myself and it's nice to be able to develop a bit of an ear for that after having it pointed out. Have you heard of the band The Warning? They sound great live and the performances are fun to watch. If you ever take them up I'd suggest their dust to dust/dull knives (cut better) from Pepsi center. It has two different songs and they each have a different band member taking the lead on vocals.

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

Yep, The Warning is on the list!

[@Nineteen1114]

They do all their backtracks - they are a group of 2 - Tyler & Josh -- and mark - I’m getting my back up on all the auto tune comments. Omg

[@Youndabay]

I never would have guessed that there was autotune/pitch correction going on there! I'm glad it served to make the performance smooth rather than making him sound too robot-y, but I do hope to find videos with more of his raw singing voice like in that ukulele clip.

[@katstorm13]

For live vocals on tour are they using pitch correction?

[@therosabella67]

Tyler voice is beautiful

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

Agreed!

[@SirCletusVanDamme]

I'm sure there's auto tune being used here, but the overall quality of this video sounds very compressed, which might make it sound more "digital" than it would have done at the event itself

[@GuyVaknin21]

Do you think that the cracking voice technique is used intentionally or is it just comes naturally with his voice?

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

It’s definitely a vocal technique common in the genre, Im not sure how much he consciously plans his technical choices though.

[@Jules-R]

If you listen to Tyler speak, he has a lot of fry naturally in his speaking voice, so I don't think it's at all hard for him to drop into the fry in his singing voice naturally or deliberately. If you search youtube for 'Tyler Joseph introduces The Line' for example, you will hear it. :)

[@gaara_of_the_desert1118]

Complaining about full autotune I can understand, but I don't really see the problem with some pitch correction, it's just another tool, it's like saying don't use a microphone and speakers, just sing louder. If people enjoy it why not use it if you want to?

[@faigler]

I know you're getting some flak for pointing out that he's using auto tune or pitch correction -- I don't think that should be controversial to say -- but what I think is fascinating is that even if it wasn't, doing that COULD be a valid artistic choice at the Game Awards....because the whole storyline that it's applied to in the series (significantly even more directly in the MV - do recommend) is Viktor's. Viktor is (without too many spoilers), through his own invention and the magic-science (hextech) of that world, undergoing a sort of transhuman evolution, or transformation. From fully human -- but dying (even from s1 he is chronically and notably _progressively_ ill -- which I'm sure was a connection for Tyler) -- to an increasingly cyborg form that can survive and is more able to utilize hextech to its full potential...but is ultimately emotionally duller. Thinking about using autotune and pitch correction to sing a song about a character that's dying and in the process, becoming something more-than-and-also-less-human, is so conceptually interesting to me! I'm sort of delighted by it even if it wasn't an intentional link. Especially because (and to be clear I don't think it does at all here) it can sometimes feel a little less emotionally tapped-in to hear pitch-corrected vocals, which also syncs to Viktor's story. It definitely can lend vocals a very slightly compressed/digitalized effect, which connects the music to the mechanical theme. (I DO think there's a slight effect on the piano and vocal output - it sounds a little synthy to me and I think that IS on purpose for the same reasons.) Since fans of the show and gamers are likely to catch that, and along with the developers, writers and artists are most likely to be the people watching the Game Awards, I'm curious if that played into any decision making around that.

[@jrbush1]

If he is using auto-tune, how is he not perfectly in pitch? I'm not saying it's not possible, I just don't get it.

[@TimWelchVocalStudio]

Auto tune is like bowling with the bumpers in the gutters. It doesn’t perfectly pull everything to the line unless you have t-pain level hard tune on. Check out Antares auto tune 11 pro and its functionality. It’s so sophisticated that you can set it to varying levels of intensity as well as have it turn off once your vibrato kicks in.

[@Jules-R]

I'm a huge fan of these guys and I could hear the pitch correction on this performance although knowing Tyler's voice as I do, and as you demonstrated by showing him singing at the end, to my ears it's not heavy. In places he is still a little sharp, which he naturally tends to be. Sadly it's just industry standard now, as Fil demonstrates on his channel, especially at a big event like the Game Awards. The artist who sang before Tyler in this Medley I could hear the correction way more, he had the giveaway robotic sound, so I wasn't surprised when Tyler started to sing to hear that'd they'd applied it to his voice too :( Thank you for acknowledging Tyler's beautiful natural voice.

[@tchiagophi6298]

Plz react to the new collab Ado x Imagine dragons plz

[@No-qb1qb]

It sounded better live I seen a lot of clips on TikTok from the audience

[@ruckisdmb1836]

Auto tune??!!! Lmfao.... ur done for reactions.

[@Pedro_eqw]

The song isn't about his grandmother, it's about a character from the show Arcane

[@thatguy4310]

Yes it is. It’s for the show too, but Tyler himself said that he wrote it for his grandmother.

[@Pedro_eqw]

@@thatguy4310 Oh I didnt know that, sorry, i thought it was only for the show

[@thatguy4310]

@@Pedro_eqw it’s okay lol. Tyler wrote it for Arcane of course but a huge inspiration for the song was his grandmas death. Which is why it fits for both the show and the death of his grandma.

[@katstorm13]

​@@thatguy4310 I didn't hear anywhere that his grandma had dementia, but maybe I missed an article. Obviously her husband, who the song Legend is about, did.

[@katstorm13]

Here's the intro he did for the premiere of the music video where he explains it kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4bRmnyMqrGgmZosi=dKFJOh92fpmJsmtv

[@diannecarrasco9678]

I always thought he used auto tune on his voice not to cover imperfections but as a style choice to purposely give it a digital, slightly inhuman sound. Like T-Pain: he can really sing but he uses auto tune as a creative tool.

[@katstorm13]

He did a lot more in the early stuff. I'm so glad they did a new version of Lovely for Vessel because that Regional at Best version is just... If someone asks what my least favorite song is, that's it lol.

[@robertkoops5689]

You mention it, this heavy autotune (or maybe pitch corrected) but because of that it lacks connection and expression, it's too perfect. It's a beautiful song, but with this tuning it's (for me) not a human vocal anymore. I try not to get used to this sound because It ruins my musical hearing.

[@ericgrondahl8330]

You win. Most pretentious comment I've heard this whole month. Congrats

[@Jannerius]

Knock knock welcome to reality even Mariah Carrie who is know to have perfect pitch uses pitch correction