The Living Flame of Love by St. John of the Cross - Stanza 1: CarmelCast Episode 51

"O living flame of love that tenderly wounds my soul in its deepest center! Since now you are not oppressive, now consummate! if it be your will: tear through the veil of this sweet encounter!"
The Living Flame of Love by St. John of the Cross tells of the union of the soul with God through love. In this episode of CarmelCast, we dive into Stanza 1 which describes how the Trinity brings about this union with God.
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[@Winston-op5de]

An excellent teaching conversation. I'm learning so much. Thanks for this episode. I was not aware of this and I have been an OCDS for 19 years. You should notify all the OCDS communities throughout the USA of this great program. God bless both of you and your audience..

[@NoriOraiz]

Thank you Carmelite Brothers for your dedication and commitment to prepare and deliver this podcast to the public. I accompany in this ministry with my prayers.

[@annstrahlendorf2879]

WOW !!! Let go, LET GOD 🙏♥️🙏

[@colleenmccormick6770]

God bless his holy soul received into heaven on the Feast of Candlemas! God is So Good

[@margietorres61]

The grace of God living within us.❤ Beautiful. We are exactly where God wants us to be in our spiritual life. Jesus I trust in you. 🙏🏼

[@mazikode]

Thank you dear Fathers. I could never have understood all this on my own. This is a wonderful podcast.

[@ICSPublications]

Prayers for you and your loved ones!

[@Elizabeth-mp6tr]

I am really enjoying your videos. I just came across them, and I'm soooo happy to find enriching discussions and material to boost my faith and spirit in Christ. Thank you! Keep it up, please!❤❤❤❤

[@patriciamonfre4664]

Thank you for helping us to understand St. John…❤

[@ICSPublications]

God bless you, Patricia!

[@vikkiwhite711]

What a relief to explain so perfectly what is happening in my soul. I have always felt so loved and cherished by God all my life, despite my sin and ungodly actions. Now, there is so much turmoil inside . Simple things like when I watch a girly chick flick, the clothes I wear, impropper conversaations. The sin is so blately obvious. I was blaming the devil for feeling so woeful when I should have been glorifying God 😁🎉 Ok, Lord, let your will be done but I really need your help. Thank you for this excellent discussion God Bless you both.

[@ICSPublications]

"I was blaming the devil for feeling so woeful when I should have been glorifying God." Amen! Keep your eyes on Jesus and you cannot go wrong. God bless you!

[@GlennJDickinson]

This is a wonderful treatment of a great saint. The Living Flame of Love is often recommended as a good place to start reading the works of St. John of the Cross.

[@Jha-1986]

I love you po Lord Jesus..❤❤❤

[@littleflower518]

Thanks so much! Wonderful insights! 💞🙏🏻

[@mepl4353]

Thank you very much, God bless You!

[@johntancik9697]

Thank you so much Fathers for this study. I received my book a few days ago and I am very excited moving forward with both of you in this study!

[@ICSPublications]

John, know of our prayers for you as your follow along!

[@amyagnew319]

Thank you for the wonderful and insightful discussion on The Living Flame of Love.

[@ICSPublications]

God bless you!

[@cindydodd5957]

So grateful for this season studying "Living Flame of Love." Thank you!

[@matildegarcia9466]

“LLAMA DE AMOR VIVA “ En español. Tal como lo tituló San Juan de la Cruz ( As St. John writes)

[@corinneroberts5988]

Thank you, to both of you!!

[@8BitMOSplaya]

On this beautiful idea/illustration of "centeredness" or the soul reaching its center in God ... we must also realise and highlight that we are not really going within or into our selfs per se, but rather our soul (and by virtue of that - we) are going outside of our selfs to another (God Himself). Our Catholic mysticism is always Other oriented and not merely a form of secular self-realism or Eastern mysticism. Note in no way do I think Father and Deacon come across as alluding to secular centeredness or Eastern mysticism in this video, but I think in our times people can get confused by the words cenetered, interiority, self realism etc. - so I just wanted to highlight that.

[@j.williford179]

Excellent! But why isn't the veil that which keeps us attached to our bodies in this life. I mean, if it were ripped away, we would die and be with God?

[@j.williford179]

Oh, okay, I see. You answered in the very last section.

[@RandomThoughts77777]

Where are there Carmelite monks who live the life traditional life and don’t just run parishes etc? Any in Europe?

[@paulagergen8505]

Question, do I watch video before I read the section or after?

[@ICSPublications]

I would probably recommend watching it after reading, but either way is fine. One person told me that they watched it before reading and then watched it again after. God bless you!

[@user-hz1vn8vo6c]

Does this also explain Elijah's "fire" ? Is St John's poem I live yet do not live in me the thin veil ?

[@ICSPublications]

These are great reflections! The connections are certainly there. God bless you!

[@tonyhayes9827]

I love Johns apophatic way For me it means when the church says no to something it’s not just saying no for no reason. It’s saying, no that,s not it. Go deeper aim higher, you’re not there yet. We might think we find true love in sex for instance or fullness of life in riches. But John,s saying no, that’s not it. Aim higher or go deeper to find true fulfilment

[@ICSPublications]

That's exactly right. God is offering the very best for us (Himself!) and doesn't want us to settle for anything less! God bless you, Tony!

[@valerievorster1124]

Gal 5: 16 -18 So I say walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. v17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. v18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

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[@kennybennett9973]

You should read the lines 8 at a time before you discuss them. I was waiting to here the first eight lines read as is before you moved on.

[@ICSPublications]

Thanks for the great suggestion! We'll have to keep that in mind for next time. In the meantime, I'll post the lines of the stanza in the video description. God bless you!