The Long Tack : High Wind Technique

[@lelandlee8656]

Jill and I call this a Loop de Loop! 😂

[@JoyriderTV]

Nice!!! Good method.

[@roberttrimble6361]

One Thumb Up cause there's no Love It option ❤ Great vid, answers my silent question

[@JoyriderTV]

Good question! - I must have heard it. Thanks

[@cuxolli]

heyho Joe, thx for the great video,have a nice day to everybody....

[@JoyriderTV]

thanks very much, I'm glad hat you liked it!

[@rolfnilsen6385]

Our "scary windy" downwind technique is to bring in the mainsheet and traveller. That reduces the projected sail area and lowers the center of effort.

[@slode1693]

Agreed, just like steering "down" in a gust to de-power when going down wind, sheet/traveler in as you turn down, but go smooth and fast so you don't loose too much speed, smooth out with traveler/sheet as you come back out the other side. When single handed just leave the jib alone until you are comfortable on the opposite tack, then tack it over. Especially single handed I feel safter gybing in heavy wind than tacking. But that's on a Nacra. Those crazy pitchpole machine Hobies may be a different story.

[@rolfnilsen6385]

@@slode1693 We prefer to use the genny downwind in all conditions but pure survival mode. Steering in a S- shaped track through the jibe might be a nice description as one goes through the parts of the evolution. One thing beachcat sailors often do much better than crews on larger boats is throwing the mainsail over manually just before the wind passes astern and the forces are low. This reduces the "slam" factor and risks involved a lot. Looking at large monohulls jibing in a blow is.. scary.. with that boom and mailsail slamming over. The forces have to be immense. What NACRA are you riding? We moved from the Tornado to an F-18 Infusion when the big-T was thrown out of the olympics.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, for sure. However, I wanted viewers to know that it's OK to go the long way round if they're too scared to go for the gybe. I think the biggest hurdle that sailors have in these conditions is the fear. With confidence everything becomes so much easier.

[@rolfnilsen6385]

@@JoyriderTV The fear, or rather learning how to operate the boat, is part of the challenge in this incredible sport :-)

[@TomKirkman1]

That's how I do it. If the sail is brought in tight, it won't slam across and capsize the boat.

[@nicolasstanley1392]

Love ya, Joe!

[@JoyriderTV]

🤩

[@jensbrinkmann6417]

cool nice

[@JoyriderTV]

This was so much fun to make!

[@timseytiger9280]

Nice, but what to do when it is too windy to make the transition from downwind to upwind?

[@iancampbell303]

Time to pull a reef was a while ago.

[@JoyriderTV]

I'm going to talk about this in this week's Q+A - good point.

[@bernhardwardein2884]

Cool! I sometimes get Stück (one of five attemts)

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, it happens to everyone. I hope this helps

[@garyvoigt5090]

Hi Joe. I having trouble finding the video on when you restored you mast on a h16 with lemmon jyce and something else. Trying to clean mine up a bit.

[@JoyriderTV]

I think this is the one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ-keXyhrsqWZ7M

[@MartinHoffFoilingSailboats]

Depends a bit on the boat but this maneuver can be worse than a high wind "tight gybe" because in this "long gybe" you go through yhe power zone twice. Instead, try a tight gybe. Run ndowmwind deep deep, almost dead downwind, with mainsheet in and traveler in. The mainsail should be sailing by the lee - telltales will show flow reversed. From there, the gybe is easy, just be super careful in the steering. (The tricky trick is of this mode is to survive the bear away from reach to downwind. That takes a long explanation I wont write here).

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks very much for your tips. Very useful.

[@spicyfist1]

Is that Boom bent upwards? From the bow shot it looks so! Could have done with a snorkel on this one, cheers Joe.

[@JoyriderTV]

Maybe she has a bend in her. Yes, this was a flippin' wet ride.

[@ukbgoldi]

Do you have the daggerboards up to reduce heeling in high winds? or some other reason?

[@cuxolli]

like on the genaker course, you could slide if there is to much load in the rig

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, in the high wind unless trying to sail competitively upwind, having the daggers lifted helps to de-power the boat. Nice Q - I'll talk about it in the Q+A on Friday. Cheers

[@MotoDUDEabides]

When you say closer to the wind, you mean turn towards where the wind is coming from, to bleed off speed, then turn back away from the wind to tack? Like a Scandinavian flick? Or do you just rave into the wind a little longer to bleed off energy, then tack around as the wind catches the sails again?

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, turn more into the direction of the wind to reduce power whilst the mainsheet it tight - you can then initiate the tack from there.

[@howardwoolley926]

Granny tack in Aussie land

[@JoyriderTV]

Or the chicken gybe maybe...

[@daanvangeijlswijk7787]

I found this 3 point technique 'by accident' in a situation where I repeatedly did not manage to tack with high wind combined with the very difficult short waves we have at the Ijsselmeer in the netherlands. The boat loses speed immediately once it has the face in the wind because the waves push the boat back. So that's a situation where it seems to apply too. I was wondering. I also manually pulled the mainsheet towards me, which increases the reverse speed. Is that a good idea?

[@JoyriderTV]

That will certainly help - especially in less wind. So yes, but be a little careful if it's a very strong wind as it could cause you to capsize backwards

[@MiP_MiP396]

The famous "reverse tack" cause you're going backward

[@JoyriderTV]

3 point turn!!

[@Kirmo13]

This is a somewhat funny procedure as it's the exact opposite of jibing when there's not enough wind to tack

[@JoyriderTV]

Ha! Yes..

[@vitoryuji6516]

Round tack

[@JoyriderTV]

That's a new one for me.

[@vitoryuji6516]

@@JoyriderTV in Portuguese we say "bordo redondo" it means round tack, and is what's looks like.

[@squid0013]

Around our parts we call that a chicken jybe

[@JoyriderTV]

or the granny tack?

[@CptShelby]

cow tack ;->

[@JoyriderTV]

Moooooo