The Lost Episode of Batman is Hidden in This Sega Game | Will It Canon?

[@dcauwatchtower]

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[@MisterM591]

Please, Rise of Sin Tzu

[@DemLep]

Curious if you have a current "canon" order posted anywhere. Curious to see the full current timeline that you guys have figured out and which episodes you are still figure out (if any).

[@Hylemxylem-ou4sp]

11:55 “Alfred, move the fan a little to the left. I want my cape to flow in the wind just right.” “Yes, master Bruce.”

[@JayStack5]

You had to mention it, and now I really want a “Will It Canon” on Superman 64. Understandable if you don’t want to put yourself through that.

[@davidburton4836]

We all want it! That game being part of the canon could be the only thing making it worth even watching gameplay of, let alone actually playing.

[@CCaster2000]

It probably could be canon because, as far as I know, it doesn't mess with the continuity in any way, especially since the game is all set in a simulation. It definitely takes place before Justice League, that's for sure.

[@crithitjace]

Just play on easy and you'll get to skip the flying through rings bs.

[@davidburton4836]

@@crithitjace True, but then you're robbing yourself of the real experience!

[@creed8712]

He can just wait for Proton Jon to finish it instead

[@tabiusthompson8101]

I remember when I was younger and saw clips of these cutscenes and thought it was an actual episode and drove myself crazy looking for it. I couldn’t believe it when I found out it was a video game 😂😂

[@markdarc0448]

How dare you say this isn’t an actual episode smh

[@pierrebuieii3908]

Dude don’t you know games be base on movies and shows

[@Forty3Snakes]

Sounds like a lie tbh

[@KairuHakubi]

That has happened to me before.. there's a Tenchi game for... I think Sega CD... that I've never been able to track down, no matter how I scour lists of Tenchi games, but I remember seeing unique footage animated just for that.

[@craftersshaft]

​@@Forty3Snakes it's not an insane lie, and could be easily explained with "every clip on the old internet was that crusty" or "saw it at a friend's house once" or "i was a child who didn't know the series nuances okay"

[@alcatrazvongola]

The contrast between James suffering through the gameplay and calmly explaining the story is so hilarious 😂

[@lostmediadetective2590]

Actually that’s a robot named Willi

[@JakeTheComicBookDude]

kind of reminds me of AVGN struggling to get through a bad video game.

[@Brendyn4222]

“Why would I take a ramp when I just RUN INTO ANOTHER RHINO???” 🤣🤣

[@SerumLake]

I asked Kevin Altieri about this game and he told me that he had a lot of freedom in his section (Clayface on the boat) Apparently very little of the action was in the script, so he got to come up with ways of demonstrating Clayface’s powers. The part where Batman shoots Clayface with an anti-air cannon is 100% something I can see Kevin coming up with. Shocking. Violent. Explosive. And it involves aircraft. All hallmarks of Kevin’s work!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Haha that's awesome!

[@SerumLake]

@@dcauwatchtower I’ve asked him to track down the storyboards. I’ll let you know if he can find them

[@dcauwatchtower]

You rock

[@dcauwatchtower]

The Penguin deleted scenes ones from "Batman Animated" are so fun

[@theshenpartei]

@@SerumLakewe really a book about the history of the entire dcau

[@somerandomfan2096]

Now For Will It Canon? Of Batman: Vengeance, Batman: The Rise Of Sin Tzu & Of Course SUPERMAN 64

[@theshenpartei]

Yes

[@Tyler-bq9ev]

Batman vengeance is just what I was thinking

[@stephenharber5694]

Yes on Rise of Sin Tzu PLZZZZ

[@davidburton4836]

Seconded!

[@weimaj]

Weren't there a couple of Justice League games too?

[@Briaaanz]

Small bit of info, there IS wind in the Batcave! Bats have to have ways in and out of the cave, so there are entrances to the caves besides the ones Batman uses and wind will blow thru these openings because caves "breathe". It's a known phenomenon.

[@Alloveck]

Yeah, I've experienced cave wind and drafts personally, and I don't exactly have extensive experience with caves. It can also be pretty localized, so I have no problem seeing most of the batcave having consistently minimal airflow and some specific parts getting a pretty good draft going at certain times. Batman's a borderline implausibly smart guy after all, he'd certainly have the expert level cave aerodynamics knowledge and foresight to plan his batcave infrastructure around where wind would and would not be present.

[@FeatheredCrow]

Imagine Batman having a huge pile of research on his desk and then a breeze messes up his entire investigation

[@westmoreland4real]

​@@FeatheredCrow "I am vengeance, I am the knight, I am about to lose my freaking mind" Batman mumbles to himself as he picks up 2000 pieces of loose paper

[@lordofthedrums93]

The bit w/ James going up the ramp only to crash down onto the same obstacle he took the ramp to avoid was such a quintessential old video game frustration moment.

[@MatthewPrower]

ngl if i gave this a title i’d prolly call it “i drove all knight” due to what you do in this game also worth noting batman’s a lot more exponentially pissed here, like he also had to struggle with gotham’s traffic system + trees + VR doodah

[@jaydenpaulus4423]

Thank you for not destroying the Sega CD case. I was anxious the entire video.

[@Vanluxen]

13:38 there was a missed opportunity to call him Rootbeard

[@justmoonwithamustache]

I noticed that the lost episode is far more violent than the TV series as: 1) the TV series wouldn't show Batman hitting an opponent directly in the face,instead the punch would be replaced with a red or white flash 2) The riddler is violently electrocuted which wouldn't get pass Fox censors 3) Joker and Batman duking it out brutally to the point Joker loses a few teeth

[@therealniallkelly88]

Re: Fantasia being Mickey "murdering the f*ck out of a broom ", I've never thought of it that way but...wow I can't not think of it that way now

[@samtinkle9076]

That's the first time I ever saw that clip and my first thought was "damn, that's some Patrick Bateman-type shit💀"

[@MinddKidzag]

Would love to see "Will It Canon" on Batman's non-DCAU crossovers like Scooby-Doo and Guess Who, Brave and the Bold, Freakazoid, Animaniacs, Teen Titans Go, Cartoon Network/Kids WB promos, etc.

[@LegoBob4123]

all the small stuff that used/referenced the DCAU artstyle(s)

[@creature6715]

Need to know if Batman singing The Jigglypuff song is canon compliant.

[@drangal]

This kills me because on a technical side, I truly believe that the animated sequences in this game are some of, if not the most beautiful ever made for BTAS : the characters are beautifully drawn, it's very dynamic, the work on shadows and lighting is sophisticated... Yet, we'll probably never be able to see this in an uncompressed format.

[@MeepChangeling]

Give it another year and video generation AI will probably be able to re-render each frame in a larger size with no noticeable artifacts. That's the best we'll ever get. No way the original footage of this game is left around.

[@Kimonia6]

This is just like the MegaMan 8 and X4 cutscenes and the Sega CD version of Sonic CD's opening

[@ShanetheFreestyler]

20:50 "It had to be inverted controls!" Uh, no. You're _flying!_ "Up is down, down is up" is _normal_ for flying! It's inverted for _looking!_

[@dcauwatchtower]

I ain't a airplane man

[@Starcat5]

11:51 He is in a natural cave. One with enough air flow not to need machines pumping in O2. So, yes, there is "wind" in the Bat Cave.

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

21:50 Orrrrr, he was nearly killed in Mudslide because he was already unstable and falling apart and the water just finished him off. In his prime he could probably tank the water even if it knocked him out of action for a bit.(In Mudslide he completely dissolves away into thin sludge, while here he's clearly just breaking into chunks, there's a lot more tangibility and thickness) Heck you could argue this tip might have been the triggering factor for the mutagen degradation, the bad damage made him unstable. That works fine. Riddler is just re-using old kit from the previous scheme since this is a collaboration and not a proper Riddler plan(hence Batman deals with it way easier), Clayface is in his prime and hasn't started violently degrading yet(though perhaps his dip at the end helped set that off), Ivy is still mostly human and not a plant clone yet. Thorne being out of town for weeks just clarifies this isn't right next to The Man Who Killed Batman.

[@p.g89]

12:04 bats just mounted a fan in the bat cave so he can be dramatic when he wants 😂 change my mind

[@JacobyJ56]

6:57 yes we all saw that one epsisode of the Angery Video Game nerd.

[@somerandomfan2096]

Or The EFFING Nerd

[@theshenpartei]

@@somerandomfan2096 or the mother effing nerd!

[@BadIdeaBoss]

So that’s two Batman games where the final twist is that the main villain was actually Clayface in disguise? I feel like at a certain point it starts to seem like more of a self confidence issue

[@TheRealSwood]

How appropriate that this video came out the same day as the trailer for the new Bruce Timm Batman show.

[@dcauwatchtower]

It was supposed to come out weeks ago 😅 Show ya friendz!

[@devinmckay9764]

Now I gotta see a 'Will it Canon?' for Batman: Vengance

[@theonewhowatches869]

I chuckled at the dishonor joke because I happened to be wearing a shirt with that had that quote on it. It's your own fault for putting the idea in my head. You should cover Superman 64

[@ShinySephiroth1]

3:35 I love how you keep track of the lore of what happens in each episode

[@Eduu_humores]

This sponsor segment might be my favorite on KZbin ever. It made feel like i was watching old Cartoon Network again with those character bumbers

[@ColtonsLiveStreams]

Honestly, seeing how the animation quality for the scenes in the game were still as good as BTAS is fantastic. The artwork has always been stellar for this sort of stuff.

[@Kitsunekun2]

Actually I as intern at Wayne Tech, I helped install a giant fan in the Batcave so his cape can wave dramatically

[@fiachrahorgan9695]

“Robert Costanzo as Detective Bullock” *get up on the hydra’s back intensifies*

[@miqwerty]

11:51 Bruce got a ceiling fan installed. It was getting a little musty and humid in the summer, y'know?

[@scantopup2226]

11:47 his cape blows becuase he's the god damn batman

[@skarloey1214]

If he wants it to blow... IT BLOWS GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!

[@andydrew3834]

13:44 RootFace is a plant-tastic name! #RootFaceForever

[@ChatookaMusic]

Officer, I swear, that tree jumped right out in front of me

[@Uncannyrewind]

The idea that clayface “died” twice the exact same way doesn’t seem too far fetched because have you ever made mud more wet?

[@nicksorenson940]

"Will It Canon?" is officially back and better than ever. I'm really digging the look of the series this time around. Hope to see the other DCAU tie-in games be covered in future episodes.

[@mattwo7]

17:43 Kind of reminds me of Egg Bouncer from Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Also known as "Flying Eggman" in its appearances in Sonic 4: Episode I and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020.

[@SuperSwimTeam7]

I love seeing you get the Big Bad Toy Store sponsorship!!!! I love their site!!! Makes me wanna support them more because they supported you!!!

[@mobiwozz]

5:01 IT DOESN'T MATTER NOW WHAT HAPPENS I WILL, NEVER GIVE UP THE FIIGHT THERE IS NO WAY I'LL RUN AWAY FROM, ALL OF MY FRIGHTS. LONG AS THE VOICE INSIDE ME SAYS GO, I WILL ALWAYS KEEP ON RUNNING! THERE IS NO WAY TO STOP ME FROM GOING TO THE VERY TOOP..IT DOESN'T MATTER,WHO IS WRONG OR WHO IS RIGHT!!

[@StarGazer0352]

This was the first video from you guys I caught early on Patreon but I had to come back to watch it again for the official release because you knock it out of the park every time

[@dcauwatchtower]

🙏🙏🙏

[@mattwo7]

1:41 Technically it's the modem that determines the download speed so it doesn't matter how powerful the Bat-Computer is anyway. Though I am sure Bruce rigged up a Bat-Modem too (apparently the DCAU version of Lucius Fox isn't the one making Batman's stuff? ).

[@frogoat]

These videos are always so well produced, entertaining and informative. Thanks!

[@dcauwatchtower]

Thank YOU!

[@DaemonCorps]

I appreciate the "it doesn't matter" bits at the start and end of the video. Past Will It Canon's always had this unintentional feel of authoritativeness that always felt weird when it comes to what's essentially theory discussion. Would love to see a WIC on the later Adventures Continue season/comics if you havent done them already!

[@neverangryman]

8:51 Get up on the hydra's back theme, yesss! Ok, continue watching now..

[@JamesLawner]

Batman Vengeance and Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu needs to be discussed on this series! 🙏🏻

[@StudioInkblot]

I think a "Will It Canon" on something that takes a lot from the DCAU but clearly isn't (such as the Arkham games) could be fun as a thought experiment. Like what would have to be changed to make it fit?

[@jxbermudez]

This is why I love this channel. So many creative deep dives on even the most obscure if stuff with very entertaining presentation. As for the qotd. I'm gonna be boring and say I'd love to see you guys.Cover the other batman games That were "in the animated universe"

[@AJordan44-]

Honestly the video quality of the game's cutscenes got more and more bearable through the video

[@mattwo7]

6:51 If you think that's bad, the 32X was mostly responsible for ending Sega's time as a console manufacturer because they released it due to the Sega Saturn taking too long to manufacture, which kneekcapped the Saturn's success in the US and lost Sega a lot of trust from retailers, which also hurt sales of the Dreamcast. Course it was the PS2 that ultimately put the final nail in Dreamcast's coffin and lead to Sega dropping out of the console market but if it wasn't for the 32X, Sega could have at least held on in the face of the PS2's competition. I mean if Nintendo could survive in spite of the N64 and Gamecube selling worse than the SNES (which itself actually sold worse than the NES but still better than the Sega Genesis) did..

[@GorgBlack]

The Batmobile has rockets, racing with a timer from Riddler, the villain kidnaps people important to Batman. I think I know where Rocksteady got the inspiration for Arkham Knight

[@goldenage]

Its the BTAS version of the Long Halloween.. Would love if this "lost episode" could get a remastered version with Shirly Walker music.

[@justinsmalls7600]

The king returns! And with remarkably higher production values! This was such a blast to watch and digest, I hope we’re able to get many more WICs! My own personal pick would be to see if Green Lantern TAS could potentially fit anywhere, not just the DCAU

[@dupirechristophe7703]

11:54 he was practicing his batfarting...

[@kuchenjaeger2164]

"Move out of my way I'M BATMAN!" got me cry laughing :'D

[@lambda1946]

19:14 "You fuck up once you fuck up forever"

[@shadowcatyt9003]

i've been watching through B:TAS for the first time recently and just watched Mudslide this morning before the episode came out. Good timing!

[@alexneff]

Anyone else watching the cat waiting for it to move

[@karabearcomics]

I maintain something I mentioned some time ago: you should do a video on Gotham Girls. Granted, I assume it's going to canon, but trying to figure out where in the timeline could be interesting. But aside from that, there's also Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu, which I don't remember you covering, at least. It would fit alongside this one as the whole original video game story and its possible canonicity. Maybe Superman 64, as well, but maybe not, because that would be torture to have to play again.

[@danieljosleary]

4:41 It just feels absolutely insane to think, much less have to be remind people, that you can enjoy something if it isn't canon.

[@dcauwatchtower]

And yet: the internet

[@enriquepinero707]

I actually really thought for years; that this game was the last cannonical event in BTAS before TNBA and that Clayface's end in this game was the last thing that happend to him; before "Growing Pains" as it was right by the harbor. Oh well.

[@dcauwatchtower]

It certainly could be that way!

[@johnnytt5233]

Awesome new set-up, Willi certainly gets a nicer set than poor James!

[@ShinoSarna]

17:07 So all this time, Riddler challenges being AR Batmobile races wasn't a bizarre choice by designers of Arkham Knight but a reference to a Sega CD game? Who knew! :P

[@funfettiheart]

Gotham water is the perfect mcguffin! What cant it do?!

[@GodzillaMendoza]

Let's do a Will it Canon for Spider-Man Unlimited and really confuse people. Love ya James

[@dcauwatchtower]

This sounds like a wonderful idea

[@TyZeta]

I love all of the podcast references, especially the “Jump on the Hydra’s Back” remix when my man Bullock was on screen! To answer your question, you should fulfill your joke promise and see if the RBAU (patent pending) will fit in!

[@squeethemog213]

This was a fantastic vid. Absolutely loved the editing and the bits. It was awesome. Fantastic work mate :D

[@Akanint]

5:37 Wait. The DuckTales guys specifically animated Over the Edge? Man, those guys are brutal.

[@Konstantly]

Great video! Most consistent yt channel out there fr

[@frenchtheguy]

11:51 its summer time so he's got like 20 big square box fans around the cave also itd be neat if you did a will it canon on if batman vs the tmnt was canon to the dcau, idk i just like that movie

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

It would be fun seeing you suffer trying to squeeze something like The Batman into Young Justice lol 34:15 Oh Willie, you're always on fire

[@d3duction1st23]

Another fantastic video!! To answer the question of the day, in the same vain as this video, I would love to see a Will it Canon for the 2001 Batman: Vengeance video game. Looking forward to the next video!

[@duckie730]

I love will in canon. Would love to see you go over the JLU and JL Infinity comics as those would have major implications if canon

[@AmaroqStarwind]

11:53 The Batcave has *really* powerful HVAC.

[@ranwolf7650]

That wasn't a gatling gun. It looks like a Browning model 1919

[@AJDPharmD]

Great episode, James! I heard about this game back in the day, but since I didn't own the system, I couldn't play it. I had no idea it fit into continuity so well. I'd love to keep the theme running with a "will it canon“ for the batman vengeance game. This was on the gamecube (not sure if it was on any other consoles), and it was a fucking blast! It had all the voice actors from the show, only a few annoying driving stages, and a really engrossing story. Easily one of the most fun games I ever played on the gamecube. And I'd love to hear your take on it.

[@BugsyFoga]

I recall watching these clips on KZbin when I was a kid and thinking they were pretty cool

[@louisb.6149]

That ad was done right, the “higher price and lower reliability” bit is so real

[@TheKillerMoth]

I literally have never clicked on a notification faster in my life

[@leemclaughlin6555]

Good job with the first thing PROVED CANON on the show I'm proud of you

[@rashedulhaqueshimul]

Wasn't Fatal Five proven canon?

[@leemclaughlin6555]

He said in the video it is the first

[@ShinySephiroth1]

7:20 that typing effect gave me Spider-Man Cartoon Maker flashbacks! Sounded exactly like one of that program's sound effects! Wow, what a throwback...

[@dcauwatchtower]

HELL yeah, you're the first to recognize the sound! I actually grabbed it from "Batman Cartoon Maker," but it's the same. I had both as a kid! Great memories!

[@ShinySephiroth1]

@@dcauwatchtower Holy crap, I had no idea there was a BTAS version! You've made my day! That's really awesome!

[@dcauwatchtower]

There was an X-Men one too but I never had it!

[@ShinySephiroth1]

@@dcauwatchtower I'm gonna have to search now to see if any of them have been made into programs or apps, haha

[@ARHaslage]

Dearest James, With everything being a multiverse, everything will canon. - Your favorite TMNT & Transformers KZbinr

[@bigdoubleu117]

Tanned? John Cena: Are you sure about that?

[@dcauwatchtower]

Hey, I'm quoting Joker 😅

[@nikolalazendic5950]

So impressed with the quality of this video! I thought it couldnt get better yet u guys outdid yourselves! Keep up the good work and know it doesnt go unnoticed! Cheers

[@johnestrada294]

Next, is Batman: Vengeance and Rise of Sin Tzu canon? After all they also had cutscenes and most of the voice cast returning.

[@theshenpartei]

I mentioned this before but there is a view master game that has Batman the animated series for the console and that needs to be looked at as well. plus then there is Superman 64.

[@mr.honeycomb]

If he figured out how to regenerate after dissolving once, he would most likely just go do it again.

[@SupremeRoshi]

Great video! For the next WIC, maybe take a look at the Infinite Crisis movies since supposedly they bring in the characters of the DCAU. That's honestly all I could think of off the rop of my head, hahaha. Either way, keep up the good work!

[@dcauwatchtower]

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[@SupremeRoshi]

@@dcauwatchtower Awesome! I've sent over an email. Hope to hear from you soon!

[@knuclear200x]

Why there still isn't a master cut/remaster of these cutscenes is a mystery to me

[@welcometogeektown]

"Oh yeah. Nope. He's never even seen this." at 25:40. I don't know why, but that hit me in just the right spot. Not sure if it's the pause beforehand, or what, but I literally laughed out loud.

[@5uper8eedle]

Honestly, I’d like either a WIC for the Kids WB Interstitials featuring Batman Beyond and Pokémon, or Green Lantern the Animated Series. Anyhow great video, welcome back Will, and stay yoppy.

[@Batgirl_fangirl]

I remember discovering "The Lost episode" on YT and thinking it looked so cool. I wanted to know more about it with little little info out there. Now we all have this wonderful video! Great job guys, you can tell how much effort went into this. 🙂💛

[@tomvondoom5416]

Please do a video on the dcu we never had. Like the Kraft macaroni and cheese JLA or adventures in the DCUniverse! Great episode gang!!!

[@dcauwatchtower]

That's on the list!

[@scrudge5352]

I really appreciate the message that a story's canon status is inconsequential to the actual quality or importance of the story. I think my favorite line on this subject was from Alan Moore's "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow", an out of continuity Superman story: "This is an imaginary story... aren't they all?"

[@JcFerggy]

I'm just a nerd here from my recommendations, but what about Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? It's been essentially kicked out of the MCU, but I still think of it as canon.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

I can easily count Seasons 1-5 as canon. The stuff onwards should be set on a slightly different canon from the movies.

[@jonascale]

You know i was listening to this like a podcast, and when you said die clayface die I thought for sure you were doing a bayne (tom hardy style).

[@dcauwatchtower]

Oh my impression is much better than that 😉

[@YourUncleBenis]

Wait, most of this game takes place in the Batmobile? Nobody tell Godzilla Mendoza.

[@GalacticLimes]

He sounds VERY uncomfortable with “Riddler’s looping cane twirl?!”

[@cesarc.4230]

When in flying vehicles, inverted controls are a must.

[@LaNoLaCola]

Much like James Rolfe, James Strecker become the Angry "Will it Canon" Nerd 29:01 ☝🤓 akshully, that's a Browning M1919 medium machine gun, whereas gatling guns are multi-barreled machine guns

[@pr0t34n]

The Riddler section gives me severe PTSD in relation to Arkham Knight

[@IMosuGoji]

What if BTAS was canon to the DCAU that would be crazy